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25799


Date: January 28, 2025 at 11:43:57
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


saw this question somewhere and wish I'd thought of it:

If you need to be saved by the loving power of Jesus Christ in order to be
accepted into the kingdom of heaven... what happened to all the people on
Earth before Jesus was born?


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25817


Date: January 31, 2025 at 00:04:35
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born?


...they went to Heaven where they were received in Love
by the eternal Christ Consciousness.

Been going on since time immemorial.

What happens after that is probably "your" call.

Rather than play "word games" with spirituality, why
not take full advantage of our present lifetime to
become even better spirits eager to make God even
greater again?

What have you got to lose?

There's a "mansion" waiting for all of us that
participated in this lifetime...

...whether we chose to live next door to each other is
another issue altogether.

Best to make peace with one another now and make God's
work a little easier.

Amazing how many people still believe "losers" haven't
been given the same keys to Heaven the "imaginary
winners" have.

Christ is PURE LOVE...

...everything else will eventually fall away on your
journey back home.


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25824


Date: February 01, 2025 at 12:17:45
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born?


I prefer the bigger picture: consciousness is all there is.


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25830


Date: February 01, 2025 at 13:37:09
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...I enjoy the larger consciousness "picture" as well akira...


...but I also enjoy viewing that larger picture while
sitting on a large rather earthbound but somewhat "solid"
granite slab easily accessible to some of creations'
other critters as well.


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25836


Date: February 02, 2025 at 16:53:49
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I enjoy the larger consciousness "picture" as well...


teaching is that we will be in a physical body after
the3 test. it will be a physical world for eternity.
hard to comprehend but a lot to look forward to.


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25838


Date: February 02, 2025 at 19:57:34
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I enjoy the larger consciousness "picture" as well...


...I'm not sure of the final "destination" chas, but we
wouldn't be in a physical world now if it weren't
important to our spiritual evolution.

This degenerate demeaning of our fellow human beings
instead of lovingly helping each other in difficult
times is a terrible roadblock for ALL of us.

God is love, what's going on here is way off the
spiritual track and will have to be fixed at some
point.

Why not fix it now rather than after we've destroyed
all life on earth?

Haven't we learned anything?


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25818


Date: January 31, 2025 at 09:58:36
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born?


Total fairytale nonsense Lee.

How come my house isn’t heaven already? Literally man, your think
heaven is some happily ever after bullshit.. when in fact your house, yes
Lee, that box you live in, is as much a mansion on he hill as some hole
your lizards crawl into.. it’s here and now brother, and all your it’s all in
the hereafter and sure shun a woman, starve those you don’t like, piss on
the poor immigrant.. yeah, you all are doing that in heaven. You’re
literally committing sins in god’s temple. You’re literally destroy god’s
creation. You’re trashing heaven bro.

In otherwords, you all have turned your backs on god. You deny
his/her/its existence because you want to live in his mansion later? What
fucking god taught you such childish bullshit? Oh, yeah, I remember now,
Charlie says so!


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25801


Date: January 28, 2025 at 12:48:19
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


scripture says they were in limbo. even christ
described souls in hell already and some were saved like
adam and eve. interesting querstion.


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25803


Date: January 28, 2025 at 13:47:31
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


which scripture? and how would 'they', the authors, know?


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25805


Date: January 28, 2025 at 15:24:01
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


scripture that is followed by jews, muslims and
Christians. much of it is confirme3d b y history. then
my faith confirms it also.


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25820


Date: January 31, 2025 at 13:29:48
From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


The question being asked is which passages in
scripture.

History doesn't delve into anything but earthly realms,
that isn't what the field of history is for. It neither
confirms nor denies scripture because it is separate,
except as the development of scripture happened in the
earthly realm of existence. Just like science neither
proves nor disproves scripture. It's a separate realm.

Moreover, Scripture itself notes that faith is the key.

If there is proof, there is no need for faith.
Therefore claiming there is proof completely
contradicts the very premise of having faith and runs
counter to scripture.


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25808


Date: January 29, 2025 at 09:09:38
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


“scripture that is followed by jews, muslims and Christians. much of it is
confirme3d b y history. then my faith confirms it also.”

Seems pretty simple to me. God is all and everything, and any man that
divides god believes in a false prophet. But hey anyone can play Charlie’s
game..

History says Charlie’s faith is in fairytales. My faith confirms it.

If a god, any god, does not have provisions for all things, living and
inanimate, then my faith says it is a false god.

My faith verses Charlie’s. The difference, Charlie’s guys believe they can
force their beliefs on others. That they are better than those that believe
otherwise.


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25809


Date: January 30, 2025 at 09:05:29
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


nt is confirmed by those who lived it. ot is confirmed
by history and acceptance by wise persons thatg liv ed
it. we can b elive scripture or we can make up what we
beliv e. no one forces you to believe scripture. you
can beliv ed whatg others havwe learned ot you can make
up whatg you wantg to b elive. its up to you.


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25811


Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:20:35
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


Just like you, charlie, can "make up" the idea that what
remains within scriptures that've been purposely tailored
to control the population of the time are *literally
God's words,* and that the men translating them were
beyond-doubt divinely inspired...

Nothing that can be physically found that verifies the
historical realities within the OT and NT *do anything
whatsoever to PROVE that the dogma inserted into
scripture by those human men in Nicaea is the words/will
of God Itself*.............

it is YOU and all who choose to designate it so, who
decide that...no one else...and it never will be...


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25812


Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:47:33
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


God provides the truth. then it is up to you. God
existed forever and it was time to give body to the
word. to do that he created a universe for his mother
to be. everything that is created is for Mother Mary.
and scripture is the history describing creation. thank
you God.


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25813


Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:52:13
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


That is your *chosen belief,* charlie...

Seeing something as *fact* requires you to invest your own
energy of belief into it *unequivocally*...

THAT is what makes it *your truth,* spiritually...but it
doesn't make it anyone else's...

Bless your heart, I'll bet Yeshua Himself could explain
this to you, and you'd still claim it wasn't so...lol...


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25814


Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:54:43
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And it's hard not to add, here...


...that *you have chosen* of your own free will to
*believe* in a God that supports *a racist* President, one
who intends to do away with anyone he doesn't personally
like and approve of, the poor, the disabled, the
nonWhite...

THIS is YOUR CHOICE, charlie...and nothing else...

It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with TRUTH.........


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25815


Date: January 30, 2025 at 11:43:36
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And it's hard not to add, here...


As Saint Paul said, man believes what he wants to believe and disregards
the rest. And, one’s beliefs shape the limits of one’s perceptions.

Unfortunately, Charlie chose very limiting beliefs. It’s a step on his
evolutionary path. I just hope he don’t need to return here to complete
his. They’re trashing the place.. gonna be hard for those that have to
come again..


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25804


Date: January 28, 2025 at 14:16:13
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


you know..."THE scripture"...what, are you stupid or something? my explanation makes more sense...are you one of those people who think we are the most evolved civilizations ever? lol...


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25807


Date: January 29, 2025 at 06:22:04
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: sorry, I'm not into religious zealotry (NT)


(NT)


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25806


Date: January 28, 2025 at 15:33:21
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


frankly, you sound like a nut ball.


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25800


Date: January 28, 2025 at 12:42:57
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


they understood what was required of them and did it...they did not need to be "saved"...that need came later as humans devolved...


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25802


Date: January 28, 2025 at 13:44:38
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation


yeah, ok ;)


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