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Date: January 28, 2025 at 11:43:57
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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saw this question somewhere and wish I'd thought of it:
If you need to be saved by the loving power of Jesus Christ in order to be accepted into the kingdom of heaven... what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born?
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Date: January 31, 2025 at 00:04:35
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born? |
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...they went to Heaven where they were received in Love by the eternal Christ Consciousness.
Been going on since time immemorial.
What happens after that is probably "your" call.
Rather than play "word games" with spirituality, why not take full advantage of our present lifetime to become even better spirits eager to make God even greater again?
What have you got to lose?
There's a "mansion" waiting for all of us that participated in this lifetime...
...whether we chose to live next door to each other is another issue altogether.
Best to make peace with one another now and make God's work a little easier.
Amazing how many people still believe "losers" haven't been given the same keys to Heaven the "imaginary winners" have.
Christ is PURE LOVE...
...everything else will eventually fall away on your journey back home.
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Date: February 01, 2025 at 12:17:45
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born? |
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I prefer the bigger picture: consciousness is all there is.
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Date: February 01, 2025 at 13:37:09
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...I enjoy the larger consciousness "picture" as well akira... |
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...but I also enjoy viewing that larger picture while sitting on a large rather earthbound but somewhat "solid" granite slab easily accessible to some of creations' other critters as well.
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Date: February 02, 2025 at 16:53:49
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I enjoy the larger consciousness "picture" as well... |
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teaching is that we will be in a physical body after the3 test. it will be a physical world for eternity. hard to comprehend but a lot to look forward to.
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Date: February 02, 2025 at 19:57:34
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I enjoy the larger consciousness "picture" as well... |
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...I'm not sure of the final "destination" chas, but we wouldn't be in a physical world now if it weren't important to our spiritual evolution.
This degenerate demeaning of our fellow human beings instead of lovingly helping each other in difficult times is a terrible roadblock for ALL of us.
God is love, what's going on here is way off the spiritual track and will have to be fixed at some point.
Why not fix it now rather than after we've destroyed all life on earth?
Haven't we learned anything?
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Date: January 31, 2025 at 09:58:36
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what happened to all the people on Earth before Jesus was born? |
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Total fairytale nonsense Lee.
How come my house isn’t heaven already? Literally man, your think heaven is some happily ever after bullshit.. when in fact your house, yes Lee, that box you live in, is as much a mansion on he hill as some hole your lizards crawl into.. it’s here and now brother, and all your it’s all in the hereafter and sure shun a woman, starve those you don’t like, piss on the poor immigrant.. yeah, you all are doing that in heaven. You’re literally committing sins in god’s temple. You’re literally destroy god’s creation. You’re trashing heaven bro.
In otherwords, you all have turned your backs on god. You deny his/her/its existence because you want to live in his mansion later? What fucking god taught you such childish bullshit? Oh, yeah, I remember now, Charlie says so!
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 12:48:19
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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scripture says they were in limbo. even christ described souls in hell already and some were saved like adam and eve. interesting querstion.
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 13:47:31
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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which scripture? and how would 'they', the authors, know?
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 15:24:01
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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scripture that is followed by jews, muslims and Christians. much of it is confirme3d b y history. then my faith confirms it also.
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Date: January 31, 2025 at 13:29:48
From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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The question being asked is which passages in scripture.
History doesn't delve into anything but earthly realms, that isn't what the field of history is for. It neither confirms nor denies scripture because it is separate, except as the development of scripture happened in the earthly realm of existence. Just like science neither proves nor disproves scripture. It's a separate realm.
Moreover, Scripture itself notes that faith is the key.
If there is proof, there is no need for faith. Therefore claiming there is proof completely contradicts the very premise of having faith and runs counter to scripture.
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Date: January 29, 2025 at 09:09:38
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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“scripture that is followed by jews, muslims and Christians. much of it is confirme3d b y history. then my faith confirms it also.”
Seems pretty simple to me. God is all and everything, and any man that divides god believes in a false prophet. But hey anyone can play Charlie’s game..
History says Charlie’s faith is in fairytales. My faith confirms it.
If a god, any god, does not have provisions for all things, living and inanimate, then my faith says it is a false god.
My faith verses Charlie’s. The difference, Charlie’s guys believe they can force their beliefs on others. That they are better than those that believe otherwise.
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Date: January 30, 2025 at 09:05:29
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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nt is confirmed by those who lived it. ot is confirmed by history and acceptance by wise persons thatg liv ed it. we can b elive scripture or we can make up what we beliv e. no one forces you to believe scripture. you can beliv ed whatg others havwe learned ot you can make up whatg you wantg to b elive. its up to you.
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Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:20:35
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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Just like you, charlie, can "make up" the idea that what remains within scriptures that've been purposely tailored to control the population of the time are *literally God's words,* and that the men translating them were beyond-doubt divinely inspired...
Nothing that can be physically found that verifies the historical realities within the OT and NT *do anything whatsoever to PROVE that the dogma inserted into scripture by those human men in Nicaea is the words/will of God Itself*.............
it is YOU and all who choose to designate it so, who decide that...no one else...and it never will be...
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Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:47:33
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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God provides the truth. then it is up to you. God existed forever and it was time to give body to the word. to do that he created a universe for his mother to be. everything that is created is for Mother Mary. and scripture is the history describing creation. thank you God.
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Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:52:13
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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That is your *chosen belief,* charlie...
Seeing something as *fact* requires you to invest your own energy of belief into it *unequivocally*...
THAT is what makes it *your truth,* spiritually...but it doesn't make it anyone else's...
Bless your heart, I'll bet Yeshua Himself could explain this to you, and you'd still claim it wasn't so...lol...
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Date: January 30, 2025 at 10:54:43
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And it's hard not to add, here... |
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...that *you have chosen* of your own free will to *believe* in a God that supports *a racist* President, one who intends to do away with anyone he doesn't personally like and approve of, the poor, the disabled, the nonWhite...
THIS is YOUR CHOICE, charlie...and nothing else...
It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with TRUTH.........
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Date: January 30, 2025 at 11:43:36
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And it's hard not to add, here... |
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As Saint Paul said, man believes what he wants to believe and disregards the rest. And, one’s beliefs shape the limits of one’s perceptions.
Unfortunately, Charlie chose very limiting beliefs. It’s a step on his evolutionary path. I just hope he don’t need to return here to complete his. They’re trashing the place.. gonna be hard for those that have to come again..
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 14:16:13
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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you know..."THE scripture"...what, are you stupid or something? my explanation makes more sense...are you one of those people who think we are the most evolved civilizations ever? lol...
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Date: January 29, 2025 at 06:22:04
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: sorry, I'm not into religious zealotry (NT) |
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 15:33:21
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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frankly, you sound like a nut ball.
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 12:42:57
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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they understood what was required of them and did it...they did not need to be "saved"...that need came later as humans devolved...
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Date: January 28, 2025 at 13:44:38
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: serious question for christians re. belief in JC & salvation |
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