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25637


Date: October 27, 2024 at 11:57:05
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


...and Mahat Ghandi for VP.

Who are you supporting?


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25691


Date: November 02, 2024 at 19:17:00
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


we will get who we deserve


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25692


Date: November 02, 2024 at 21:56:39
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


...you were my second choice Charles, although ryan was
also definitely in the running.

You'd think we all knew each other well enough to be more
supportive of each other.

My guess is that all of us will be getting along together
better sometime between Christmas and New Years...

...maybe sooner.


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25693


Date: November 03, 2024 at 19:16:15
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


i have no idea who will win but i will live with who we
get.


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25694


Date: November 03, 2024 at 22:08:46
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


i have no idea who will win but i will live with who we
get.

...it really doesn't matter who wins, OUR journey is the
same and I am pleased I got to share it with you and all
the other ebers who have graced these forums.

I thinks this is where the journey starts to get really
serious.


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25699


Date: November 06, 2024 at 00:42:09
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


TRUMP WON!🏅 we are done w/ Harris! She’s not going to make enough
electro votes! There is a God and miracles do still happen!


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25700


Date: November 06, 2024 at 09:12:45
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: There is a God and miracles do still happen!


...it would be nice if more people had your vision Kat...

Time for all of us to make lemonade.


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25701


Date: November 06, 2024 at 12:16:44
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: There is a God and miracles do still happen!


Absolutely true Lee.


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25697


Date: November 04, 2024 at 09:09:50
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


"I thinks this is where the journey starts to get really serious."

The tone of your posts seems to be as if you are anticipating our demise.
Like you're saying goodbye..

It's just an election.. and one in which we'll finally be done with our in-house
wannabe.. we can all watch him get carted off to sing sing..

Life is good Lee.. as to seriousness... it's always been.. nothing changes..
and yeah Thursday follows Wednesday..

As to all the noise.. we're a country of laws.. folks will push 'em.. and end up
with the consequences.. no biggie.. just time and energy.. and it too shall
pass..

As I said Lee.. life is good.. and every minute precious.. serious.


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25695


Date: November 03, 2024 at 22:51:29
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


it has always been "really serious"...but imo, it is good to think along that line...


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25696


Date: November 04, 2024 at 00:02:24
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


I figure "more serious" begins when we all learn to love
one another without limit when we realize it's the only
choice left.

I suspect we'll all recognize the shift although I'm not
sure how we'll be able to communicate for a while.

Fasten our seatbelts?


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25649


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:25:09
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


you shouldn't be trashing this board with your election bs...imo...chas has final say...


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25652


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:39:29
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


"you shouldn't be trashing this board with your election
bs...imo...chas has final say..."

I agree ryan.


I wonder where Jesus would weigh in?


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25689


Date: November 02, 2024 at 01:28:54
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


Everyday I vote for Jesus Christ. We both voted early but we walked our
ballets into the court house clerk, hand them over! NO DROP BOX FOR
US. WE ALSO GOT EMAIL CONFIRMATION THAT OUR VOTE COUNTED!


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25703


Date: November 06, 2024 at 12:18:51
From: Kat , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


What took place was a miracle from Christ Himself!!!


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25704


Date: November 06, 2024 at 12:21:49
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


or a blow by satan...how does one tell the difference? easy, judge them by their deeds...if you're paying attention, it's easy to see who controlled the outcome...


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25706


Date: November 06, 2024 at 13:18:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


Yep...easy peasy...

"Ye shall know them by their fruits." Matthew 7:16

Now we sit back and watch them try to spin "the
propserity gospel" and their hardcore evangelical
patriarchal right-by-might myths into *somehow being OF
CHRIST...as being Christ-like, as if Jesus Christ ever
taught anything remotely resembling the real-life fascist
tenets they will now enforce...racism, religious
intolerance, financial exclusivity, literally everything
they intend...

It can't be done. We know that. And God bless you GOPers,
we know you must try to make what you're doing *wrap
itself around that cross to pretend you're behind who and
what Jesus Christ lived to show,* try to pass off
Republican Fascism as being even remotely compatible with
it... But that fabric isn't even well-woven, it's not big
enough and there's no way it has an iota of stretch to
it...

You can't wrap Fascism around True Christ-ian Energy and
try to hide that Light...the effort is starting out full
of gaping holes, and its glaring inconsistencies with the
Infinite Love and Compassion that Christ taught, as it
will be arising simultaneously, matching the darkness
moment-by-moment until its full glory synergizes...and
that false fabric simply dis-integrates...

That's the most loving thing I can speak to this, what I
see as an astonishing and brilliantly crafted intentional
misunderstanding of spiritual truth, wielded against a
population of sincere believers who can't yet grasp what
they have agreed to...




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25705


Date: November 06, 2024 at 12:53:54
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


...how does one tell the difference?

...it's been my experience that prayer or meditation
helps with "discernment" between good and not so good.

On a more practical level, it was pretty obvious Harris
wasn't qualified let alone ready for the job.

It was Trump that demonstrated that he could bring
diversity and fairness to the political process.

It helps to keep an open and objective mind rather
you're discussing religion OR politics.

Christ teaches forgiveness, Kamala not so much. Trump
would seem to be the middle ground...

...and America responded.


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25707


Date: November 06, 2024 at 13:33:47
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


lol...knew you were a closet rumper lee...don "i'm gonna get revenge on my enemies" rump? lolol...actually thought you were a bit more intelligent than this, but ...not really...haha...


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25708


Date: November 06, 2024 at 14:07:02
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...actually I'm just a "closet" CHRISTIAN ryan...


...and while I feel your disappointment, the majority
of Americans are celebrating today and most of them
feel God is more REAL than ever, myself included.

You and shadow need to let go of the burden you bare
and get on with life.

I appreciate your concern for all the "republicans" out
there, but maybe you should focus on something you can
actually achieve, like making EB even greater.

Accomplish that and the rest of the world will have
something to aspire to.


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25727


Date: November 06, 2024 at 21:57:22
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...actually I'm just a "closet" CHRISTIAN ryan...


AMEN!


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25709


Date: November 06, 2024 at 14:37:51
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...actually I'm just a "closet" CHRISTIAN ryan...


keep kidding yourself lee...celebrate away...way away......


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25712


Date: November 06, 2024 at 14:47:12
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: keep kidding yourself lee...


...every day of my life has been a CELEBRATION ryan...

...you should try it sometime.

Bitching about everything without being a positive part
of the solution gets really old really fast.

It's also not very healthy in the long run.


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25728


Date: November 06, 2024 at 22:10:02
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep kidding yourself lee...


for a "christian", you sure are a condescending old turd...lol...


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25690


Date: November 02, 2024 at 08:01:51
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


I got email confirmation, too (we just mailed it in this
year--early).


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25657


Date: October 27, 2024 at 16:26:59
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


he would probably say something like "go and sin no more"...


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25659


Date: October 27, 2024 at 16:34:03
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


he would probably say something like "go and sin no
more"...

...finally, we're all on the same page.

Now the real work can begin.


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25664


Date: October 27, 2024 at 18:51:34
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


go...


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25648


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:24:28
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I voted for Princess Leia


I know, I lied


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25665


Date: October 27, 2024 at 19:44:57
From: Joe, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I voted for Princess Leia


It would make sense for a Princess to support a fellow
Princess.


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25669


Date: October 28, 2024 at 04:42:26
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I voted for Princess Leia(NT)


(NT)


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25641


Date: October 27, 2024 at 13:09:08
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


i’m voting for trump, but not really a supporter of him. just see how
biden/harris have messed up so many things trump can obviously run the
country better

your chosen leaders would probably do better at stopping all the wars
that have broken out over the last few years than anyone on the ballot


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25647


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:22:36
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


what exactly have they messed up? i know you complain about immigration but the numbers are now lower than when rump got the boot in 2020...what else? economy is great...recovered nicely from rump's ruining of the excellent economy he got from obama...what else? you got nothing to back up your pathetic vote...


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25646


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:20:11
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: a vote for Trump is the epitome of support


you're only fooling yourself, ot


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25642


Date: October 27, 2024 at 14:00:23
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


"do better at stopping all the wars"

You say that as if we, the USA, has anything we can do to stop them. I mean,
sure, we can lay down, as those that are often apt to suggest, and just give
dictators what they want. Like saying sure, to Putin, take Ukraine. Which as a
matter of principle we're not predisposed to do.

So, instead, as we are disposed to do, we offer assistance, measured
assistance, to Ukraine. And yet I kinda sense you're saying that was wrong.
That you're "blaming" Biden for responding as such to Putin. That you're
saying we, the USA is at fault for creating wars, such as what is playing out in
Ukraine. Is that what you are saying?

The same in Palestine. Are you saying we are wrong to support our allies? That
we really should let Iran have it's way rather than support an effort to end the
decades long conflict?

And what about Taiwan? Are you suggesting because of threats from Xi we
should surrender our support for their sovereignty?

I am asking because unless you think those guys, Putin, Xi, and all their little
upstart followers, can be persuaded to forego their designs for dominance I
don't see how your complaint makes any sense. Especially when you dress it
up with insinuations that the USA is somehow at fault for trying to preserve the
model of democracy as a guiding principle for the management of the world's
affairs. But hey, I am sure you will enlighten us on how I am missing the point.


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25644


Date: October 27, 2024 at 14:53:49
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


The same to Lee..

How would Jesus bring a different perspective on the matter?

I get "love one another" as a core tenet but I don't see Christians (the kind I
am referring to here) acting accordingly. Criminalizing women for their
choices, often made under extreme duress, is not loving women. It just isn't
no matter how hard they try to paint it otherwise.

So, how does Jesus' precepts apply to international relationships? Does turn
the other cheek imply surrender? Are we, is Ukraine, Israel, sinning for our
defiance to dictatorial dominance?

Xi will hit a wall, something in his political sphere will change and he'll
calculate that invading Taiwan is the proper course, and the world will be
thrown into chaos. We're too interconnected.. parts for things made one
place, assembled another, and those fricking microchips. If China moves,
and we move, and all commerce will come to a halt.

How would you suggest Jesus would deal with the matter? I mean if looking
into his eyes and being mesmerized don't work, what?


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25645


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:01:26
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


Do you want a little cheese with that whine?

Funny how you avoid making commitments to positions on anything.
Interesting programming.

I have no interest in that industry. Hate it. Just have a bit of confusion on how
to go from here, where we are today, to the idealized state of no more war?

Wars are fought for reasons. Gotta give folks a reason not to fight them.

Ukraine, a sovereign nation makes decisions for itself that its neighbor
doesn't like. Ukraine wants to be associated with free democracies and
Russia invades to prevent them from doing so.

What do you suggest is the proper response?


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25651


Date: October 27, 2024 at 15:32:43
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


What do you suggest is the proper response?

For starters, you could learn what the United States
did to the democratically elected President of Ukraine
back in 2014...

...and then apply the principles of Jesus of Nazareth
in righting that injustice.

When you have that part under control, come on back to
C Bible Religion for a few more positively constructive
hints if you need them.

I love you ao, as much as you know, but what we are
doing in Ukraine and the middle east is criminal...

...and you and I are fully complicit.

Republicans are not the problem...

...this entire country we love is.


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25670


Date: October 29, 2024 at 22:23:53
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


"what we are doing in Ukraine and the middle east is criminal..."

I see.. so you're one of those that thinks we should spread our legs and let
Putin have his way with us. Give him Europe. You're a Hamas/Hezbollah
supporter, eh?

Well, I am sorry bro.. I think them kine folks would be a whole lot happier if
they move to their favored country. After all, you're certainly not interested
in democracy. Maybe you can get Putin to put you up. You could tell him all
the secrets of those bombs you live with.. omg you could kiss his ass!


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25671


Date: October 30, 2024 at 09:19:26
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


Potty mouth belongs on National or International ao...

...please respect that.


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25679


Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:45:32
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


you seriously don’t expect him to be respectful of anything do you?

still so odd that in a thread addressed to me only a single one of my
responses remains, yet all his trolling crude comments remain


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25682


Date: October 31, 2024 at 11:48:12
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...it could be a lot worse old timer...


...you could be more like those that disagree so strongly
with you.

Personally, I count both my blessings and lizards every
day.

My take is you are doing just fine and I envy that.


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25683


Date: October 31, 2024 at 13:25:17
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...it could be a lot worse old timer...


getting old hurts in a lot of ways but one of the good things about being
an old timer is it makes it easier to suffer fools gladly


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25684


Date: October 31, 2024 at 13:58:52
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...it could be a lot worse old timer...


getting old hurts in a lot of ways but one of the good
things about being an old timer is it makes it easier
to suffer fools gladly...

They say Moses lived until he was 500...

I can only imagine how that felt and I'm only 79. I've
been consciously trying to improve myself since I was
in my early twenties and made a consciousness decision
to take the slower path and not try to tackle
everything at once but take turtle steps towards a
LARGER goal in life.

It enabled me to make PROGRESS that tended to stay with
me and slowly mature into a more stable form.

As a result I've had a fairly stable foundation to
build on and I've taken the time to reinforce it as
necessary.

I suspect some of my fellow ebers have forgotten some
of the more valuable lessons they learned earlier in
their life and perhaps have drifted towards being the
very things they at one time pledged not to become.

The concept of FASCISM or DEPLORABLE is an example of
that backsliding and there is probably nothing you or I
can do about that other than not to backslide
ourselves.

I suggest you continue to get YOUR messages out and
continue your own personal growth and let the others
work at their own pace.

If they want your help, or mine, I'm sure they'll let
you know.

For what it's worth, judging from the feedback I see
from others, you're doing just fine.


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25685


Date: October 31, 2024 at 14:20:21
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...it could be a lot worse old timer...


No, Nevada. If someone is actually maturing as they age,
growing older and wiser by definition of holding a larger
view (goal), one does not PROGRESS into a place where the
understandings of what is humane by definition, what
actually translates to authentic, genuine *freedom* and
*civil rights* for All (that larger goal) grow less
clear...less well-defined...more ambiguous, and more open
to wide variations of interpretation...

No. They do not, my friend. The understandings of what
all is necessary, in life, for there to be true *humanity
and respect for all,* for those larger goals to be
represented within our government, within our societal
relationships as well as personal ones ALL GROW IN DEPTH
AND SCOPE as we age, if we are really maturing, rather
than tend to "backslide" into younger territories of self
"that they were before"...

"Fascism" in all its expressions is, by definition, not
something that resonates with those larger goals...but
rather with authoritative/dictatorial division via
racism, via financial and religious exclusivism (see
Project 2025), via every intention the rightwing GOP is
currently espousing as its platform...

So, no "backsliding" in my quarter, Nevada, by your
definition, nor do I see that anywhere amongst EB posters
except from the GOPers...

And I suffer fools far more easily anymore when they're
not trying to elect rightwing fascist thugs to run my
country...


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25686


Date: October 31, 2024 at 14:43:10
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...how to defeat fascism and still love garbage truck drivers...

URL: 5 URGENT Truths You Must Know


...saw this yesterday shadow and am feeling much better
today after a restless night.

God did not put us here to harm one another, but rather
to help us all to understand the Devine role we play
together and how to survive the hiccups.

Let me know if you resonate with what she has to say...

...I certainly did.


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25687


Date: October 31, 2024 at 15:00:32
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...how to defeat fascism and still love garbage truck drivers...


I can say I agree with your middle paragraph there, Nevada…but no, I’m
not interested in taking time and energy for this video and comparing my
orientation with it, for you, so you can then use that toward more of what
you do…lol…

You forget how well I know you, hon…nothing else to say to you… ;)


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Date: October 31, 2024 at 15:24:34
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...how to defeat fascism and still love garbage truck drivers...


I can say I agree with your middle paragraph there,
Nevada…but no, I’m not interested in taking time and
energy for this video and comparing my orientation with
it, for you, so you can then use that toward more of
what
you do…lol…

You forget how well I know you, hon…nothing else to say
to you… ;)

If you change your mind, let me know what you think.

I found it useful in understanding the difficult times
many of us find ourselves in...

...it was one of my better spent 30 minutes in life.

One of my better early investments was reading
Paramhansa Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yoga back in
the early seventies.

Sometimes God sends sends us quality information from
sources we'd least expect...

...at least that's been my experience.


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25674


Date: October 30, 2024 at 10:25:59
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


suck it lee...


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Date: October 30, 2024 at 11:03:24
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


...take it somewhere else ryan.


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25673


Date: October 30, 2024 at 10:06:54
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence – Not Less

URL: swearing is a feature of language that an articulate speaker can use in order to communicate with maximum effectiveness.


Seriously Lee, if your boy were around today he'd tell those who claim to live
their lives in his name and yet have authoritarian wet dreams to "go fuck
themselves." I actually think he'd say it just like that.

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Full Headline: Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence – Not Less –
Say Scientists

The use of obscene or taboo language - or swearing, as it's more commonly
known - is often seen as a sign that the speaker lacks vocabulary, cannot
express themselves in a less offensive way, or even lacks intelligence.

Studies have shown, however, that swearing may in fact display a more,
rather than less, intelligent use of language.

While swearing can become a habit, we choose to swear in different
contexts and for different purposes: for linguistic effect, to convey emotion,
for laughs, or perhaps even to be deliberately nasty.

Psychologists interested in when and why people swear try to look past the
stereotype that swearing is the language of the unintelligent and illiterate.

In fact, a study by psychologists from Marist College found links between
how fluent a person is in the English language and how fluent they are in
swearing.

The former - verbal fluency - can be measured by asking volunteers to think
of as many words beginning with a certain letter of the alphabet as they can
in 1 minute.

People with greater language skills can generally think of more examples in
the allotted time. Based on this approach, the researchers created the
swearing fluency task. This task requires volunteers to list as many different
swear words as they can think of in 1 minute.

By comparing scores from both the verbal and swearing fluency tasks, it
was found that the people who scored highest on the verbal fluency test
also tended to do best on the swearing fluency task. The weakest in the
verbal fluency test also did poorly on the swearing fluency task.

What this correlation suggests is that swearing isn't simply a sign of
language poverty, lack of general vocabulary, or low intelligence.

Instead, swearing appears to be a feature of language that an articulate
speaker can use in order to communicate with maximum effectiveness. And
actually, some uses of swearing go beyond just communication.

Natural pain relief

Research we conducted involved asking volunteers to hold their hand in
iced water for as long as they could tolerate, while repeating a swear word.

The same set of participants underwent the iced water test on a separate
occasion, but this time they repeated a neutral, non-swear word. The heart
rate of both sets of participants was monitored.

What we found was that those who swore withstood the pain of the ice-cold
water for longer, rated it as less painful, and showed a greater increase in
heart rate when compared to those who repeated a neutral word.

This suggests they had an emotional response to swearing and an activation
of the fight or flight response: a natural defence mechanism that not only
releases adrenalin and quickens the pulse, but also includes a natural pain
relief known as stress-induced analgesia.

This research was inspired by the birth of my daughter when my wife swore
profusely during agonising contractions. The midwives were surprisingly
unfazed, and told us that swearing is a normal and common occurrence
during childbirth - perhaps for reasons similar to our iced water study.

Two-way emotional relationship

We wanted to further investigate how swearing and emotion are linked. Our
most recent study aimed to assess the opposite of the original research, so
instead of looking at whether swearing induced emotion in the speaker we
examined whether emotion could cause an increase in swearing fluency.

Participants were asked to play a first person shooter video game in order to
generate emotional arousal in the laboratory. They played for ten minutes,
during which they explored a virtual environment and fought and shot at a
variety of enemies.

We found that this was a successful way to arouse emotions, since the
participants reported feeling more aggressive afterwards when compared
with those who played a golf video game.

Next, the participants undertook the swearing fluency task. As predicted,
the participants who played the shooting game were able to list a greater
number of swear words than those who played the golf game.

This confirms a two-way relationship between swearing and emotion. Not
only can swearing provoke an emotional response, as shown with the iced
water study, but emotional arousal can also facilitate greater swearing
fluency.

What this collection of studies shows is that there is more to swearing than
simply causing offence, or a lack of verbal hygiene. Language is a
sophisticated toolkit, and swearing is a part of it.

Unsurprisingly, many of the final words of pilots killed in air-crashes
captured on the 'black box' flight recorder feature swearing. And this
emphasises a crucial point, that swearing must be important given its
prominence in matters of life and death.

The fact is that the size of your vocabulary of swear words is linked with
your overall vocabulary, and swearing is inextricably linked to the experience
and expression of feelings and emotions.

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Extra Points: For me.. the real "potty" mouth was when Karen kept invoking
images of herself with an unchanged diaper on her face. That was truly
disgusting.. to me.

Each their own, eh Lee?

And.. still.. no potty mouth on Jesus' board.. got it!


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25680


Date: October 30, 2024 at 22:47:48
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence – Not Less


i can agree that swearing is a sign of intelligence, i swear often. but
knowing when and where to swear provides insight into a person’s
character


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25681


Date: October 31, 2024 at 08:16:00
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence – Not Less


Yes, Old Timer, it certainly does...


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25676


Date: October 30, 2024 at 16:17:09
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence – Not Less


was having an interesting discussion about this just the other day with some friends...consensus was the younger generations swear a lot more nowadays...it seems what we call swear words, are just words for them...part of the regular conversational vernacular...whereas our generation used them mainly for pointed punctuation and effect, to drive home a viewpoint or express passion, nowadays they are just part of the general conversational lexicon...fuckin eh, non?


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25678


Date: October 30, 2024 at 17:27:22
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence – Not Less


Some folks...especially those coming from a particularly
academic intellectual sensibility and, omg yes,
especially if they're religious...still see the use of
"foul language" as their gauge for whether someone is "of
sufficient sophistication" to bother with giving any
attention or engaging...whether a person is *civil
enough* to participate in a conversation without doing
so... ;)

The frequency is decreasing but there was a time when I'd
get some outright hostile looks, especially from other
women, when I'd be speaking about something for awhile
and suddenly casually use the f word; honestly, you'd
think I'd physically struck them...! Eyebrows on the
ceiling, eyes bugging, mouth gaping: "But I never
expected to hear that from YOU!" What? lol Why? Again: As
if I'd smacked 'em.

Although I do try to respect other people's sensibilities
and sensitivities when I know about them, best I can, and
while I don't think I'm all that foul-mouthed in general,
for me certain words have indeed kinda become part of our
vernacular...to a point where I'd be hard-pressed to give
enough energy and attention to eliminating them from my
vocabularly...lol...


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25672


Date: October 30, 2024 at 09:25:06
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


omg...lololol...please, Nevada, for the sake of *Reality*:
*Respect that you will never be the Owner/Moderator of any
of this Forum's boards,* stop acting out the juvenile
charade that you are, and leave doing so to the Forum's
owner?

I know, I'm asking the impossible, but I seem to be on a
roll with that, so...I let it fly...


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25639


Date: October 27, 2024 at 12:20:50
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for ot: I voted for Jesus Christ for President...


I doubt he'd take the job..


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