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Date: October 20, 2024 at 08:41:35
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible verse.... |
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...with the GOP agenda?
I know I'm dreaming...lol...but no Republican Christian has ever been able to give me an answer on this and, given where we are...lol...I just thought to try again, see if anyone has the balls to try... ;)
(Oh...and no, quoting other verses like the one that says "There will always be the poor amongst you" isn't going to cut it...)
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Matthew 25: 34-40
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 07:38:13
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the same way democrat christians support Zionism? (NT) |
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 08:09:27
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the same way democrat christians support Zionism? (NT) |
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Date: October 22, 2024 at 16:47:00
From: Joe, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Sounds like you would have no problem feeding the starving people of North Gaza. Glad to hear that.
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Date: October 22, 2024 at 17:24:13
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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How exactly do you arrive at that conclusion, Joe?
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 00:56:21
From: Joe, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Jesus said his kingdom was not part of this world. So why would not support feeding starving Palestinians in North Gaza?
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 07:09:36
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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I'm still waiting for you to answer my original question, Joe...
And BTW...this isn't about "what *I* would have no problem doing" (as per your first response)... My question was asked of Republican Christians, and I am neither... Your second response doesn't answer it, either...
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 07:32:50
From: Joe, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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I am not a Christian republican. Hard to categorize a whole group though. I am some sure are decent and some are not like any other huge group.
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 08:20:20
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Well, then, the question wasn’t directed to you… ;)
I asked individuals who identify as Republican Christians how they reconcile the noted scripture verses with current GOP values and policies…and I agree, yes, that there are some who, in their personal way of living, do indeed honor the high humanitarian values those verses call Christians to…
I appreciated JFFs input…though I won’t comment on it…and am waiting to see if there are any other responses from those I’ve asked… ;)
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Date: October 22, 2024 at 20:51:09
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
...apparently Joe took your post at face value. It's my guess the Bible tends to be more spiritual than political.
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 21:49:24
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Absolutely Lee! Great answer.
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Date: October 25, 2024 at 21:23:33
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Growing up there was a thing called ‘self control’. Common sense told me that one time of ‘letting go’ simply because a large part of me wanted to, I did not want to create a baby. I stuck to my guns! Little did I know I couldn’t even get pregnant. My husband & I adopted a little girl. Our daughter has always known. We drove 20- miles as a couple, came home as a family. All because a young girl did the most unselfish thing any woman can do. She ( the bun warmer) gave her breathing, living baby up for adoption. It took me many surgeries to try & correct the problem but to no avail, the day came that my Dr. said best get on an adoption list, waited till I was in the car w/ my husband a& cried my heart out. My poor husband asked “what can I do?” Told him just drive & he did holding my hand . Getting on the state list took many steps as well. 2-1/2 yrs later we became parents. There are so many couples on lists today hoping & praying for their baby to show up. Abortion has become a choice of convenience & I can’t understand that at all.
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Date: October 26, 2024 at 01:51:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Hi Kat, thank you for sharing your touching story…and I’m sorry for all you went through with infertility, and how wonderful that you were able to adopt your daughter!
And while I strongly disagree with you, that the level of consciousness around abortion has become so shallow and callous as to be predominantly that of *birth control,* abortion has nothing at all to do with the question I asked…
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Date: October 26, 2024 at 20:36:33
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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I appreciate your response Shadow but my answer was my response to Nevada’s post, not your’s. Still, in today’s world there is no reason for adoption as a convenience. Worse yet 9- month abortion like NY wants. & has been reported of it taking place. Or LIVE ABORTION where they simply let the baby suffer trying to breath till the end comes. Also think it should be at the state level NOT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT IS IN ALL OUR LIVES AS IT IS NOW. IMO
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Date: October 26, 2024 at 22:49:16
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Um...okay, Kat, I'm not even going to comment on how you've taken this opportunity to hold forth on your feelings about abortion...which had nothing to do with the question of my thread, nor can I see how it responded to anything Nevada said, either...you just decided to go off in that direction... ;)
...but it's clear how defensive you and other Republicans are about key issues, which I understand, but I'd appreciate it, if you don't have an actual response to the question I asked, to kindly direct your feelings to threads about the topics concerned... Thank you in advance...
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Date: October 27, 2024 at 11:34:07
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Just for the record, I’m registered as an independent. I think for myself.
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Date: October 27, 2024 at 11:46:48
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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...apparently shadow wasn't too interested in Biblical text as much as she wanted to share her word salad approach to communicating her interesting concept of world peace and joy.
Where would be be without the wisdom of Jesus Christ to finish our sentences of love and hope.
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Date: October 27, 2024 at 22:36:59
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Well, as for myself, I’d be pretty lost. The Blessings that have come my way from love & HOPE of Jesus in my heart, soul, & mind have been too many to count. One very important moment that took place 3- weeks before our baby showed up I was on my knees, crying, we never requested a sex of the baby on our app. But I ask Christ for a little girl so that I could raise her not the way I had been raised, but with so much love! That was the only time I had prayed w/ so much heart. 2-1/2 yrs after the letter came in the mail saying we were excepted as good future parents. It was a very long process. A lot of surgeries for me. All in all it took 6- yrs. Our girl has given us a wonderful sil, & 2- beautiful grandsons! The boys call me Grammy. 14 & 16. They hug me and Papa with so much love. All the above is a Blessing to me.
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Date: October 27, 2024 at 23:11:44
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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...such a beautiful post on so many loving levels Kat...
...I feel so blessed. Lee
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Date: October 27, 2024 at 23:49:28
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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So enjoy your posts Lee. Very sad this is the only place you’re allowed. On the other hand, it’s very special reading your posts on Chas’ web site.
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Date: October 27, 2024 at 12:17:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Anyone who can read English will see it as obvious that the original point of my post, that I've had to keep bringing everyone back to (which took some effort!) was, in fact, the specific Biblical text...
...because...duh...it's *the specific Biblical text itself* that I pointed out runs exactly contrary to GOP Fascist values and tenets...are you still following?...which I then invited anyone identifying as Republican Christians to offering *how they reconcile those specific Biblical texts* with choosing Republican orientation politically.
One person offered their genuine experience and some links they felt backed up their perspective with facts. One person.
Nothing else anyone else has had to say responds to the specific question I asked. This was no surprise to me...in fact, I figured I could count on no one being able TO reconcile Yeshua's exhortation *to treat every human being as they would treat He, Himself,* with GOP values...to illustrate and make my point for me. And it did so like clockwork.
I also figured, when posting this here, that you'd take your best shot at spinning these words of Yeshua into less significance, somehow, and that you'd take a cheap shot at me to do so...lololol...and lookit that, you rolled right into it like...oh, like it was your nature to do so... Imagine that... ;)
Thanks for your input on my thread, Nevada. You have a nice day.
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Date: October 26, 2024 at 21:01:19
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Should read Abortion NOT ADOPTION. ( I dislike Auto correction)
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 00:50:59
From: Just Forum Fan , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
URL: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X21000752 |
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There is nothing that needs to be reconciled, but your implication? that GOP is not charitable, or not charitable enough?
Studies have been done, ABC news, I think was the one that reported this decades ago, but forgive me if the old gal, me is incorrect on that.
GOP/Conservatives, we are more charitable than libs with our OWN money. Libs are more willing to be charitable with tax money/other peoples' money, than their own.
I have found multiple links for this.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-generous-liberals-conservatives-081500677.html
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/republicans-give-more-to-charity-than-democrats-but-theres-a-bigger-story-here/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34429211/
Oh, LOL but there is a funny,2023 report that is stretching, where folks answered questions about covid and were given 5.00....and LOL and yep, liberals were more generous than conservatives in being willing to give away that little 5 dollar gift, LOL it was not their own personal money but gave the folks doing this little experiment a chance to claim "libs were more generous" yet the point was not lost on me that this supports what I read long ago and said here, about libs being more generous with taxpayer money than we are, but more selfish with their own personal funds.
***** LASTLY, I may as well sound off on one other thing. It is said by ignorant lefties that we that are against abortion, when and if we can get a woman to refuse to do it, we are supposedly not there for her after the agreement to reject abortion. This is another falsehood except we all know in individual situations that of course there is good and bad in everything, so surely some folks are like this, somewhere.
I donate every month to three charities, one is a rescue home that folks can live at as long as they are working and/or going to school part time, this home being a true "hand up," and not just handout.
Another is Preborn! from Indianapolis. They are publicy and truly committed to the mother and newborn for two years, food, supplies, home, medical, etc.
Third is a radio church that is really an "unchurch."
Sorry for any typos here...as I am posting this at almost 3am.
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 02:18:05
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Okay, JFF, thanks for your feedback... ;)
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Date: October 20, 2024 at 12:04:55
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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one of my favorite passages of the Bible.
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Date: October 20, 2024 at 12:07:21
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Date: October 20, 2024 at 09:32:32
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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I have many Christian "republican and democrat" friends here in Hawthorne who not only understand that Bible passage but practice the spirit of it every moment of their lives.
What's not to understand?
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Date: October 20, 2024 at 11:55:32
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question: How do Republican Christians reconcile this Bible... |
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Oh, right…I’d almost forgotten! My bad. This IS the one place our host still graciously allows you to post…
…which does, yes, offer you the opportunity to *try* to deflect my point that GOP Everything stands solidly against the spirit and practices those scriptures clearly spell out in an unavoidable way…
…but you won’t succeed… it’s way too late for that, LizardMan, and thank God, they’ve outed themselves eagerly with every breath…
And thank God, and Mr Bopp as well, that our days of standing down your endless posts of SpinTripe are long, long gone… ;)
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Date: October 20, 2024 at 10:08:07
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Thanks in advance, Mr. Bopp...(NT) |
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