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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Question for Bible Thumpers..
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Please, Chas? georg? Nev? Someone help me understand how it is that you all can suck up to Trump? Seriously, how is it that you folks can excuse his obvious amoral behavior, his need to denigrate and disparage, when your idol, Christ, never did and would have never spoke so about anyone? How is it that you've forsaken the call to love one another for this? I don't understand. From here it looks like you've traded in your beliefs for the empowerment he promises. When in fact, you know, we all know, he ain't empowering you. He's robbing you of your soul. It's obvious. It is so obvious I am amazed you all have fallen for the lies of a charlatan.. for a liar who does nothing but stroke your ego. Promise you nothing but hot air, and still you all sing his praises. Why? What's going on here? What happen to your hearts to have turned them against humanity? How do you excuse yourselve's? |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question for Bible Thumpers..
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I can't speak for the others ao, but I suck up to Trump for the same reasons I suck up to you, ryan, george, red, shadow, and scores of others hereabouts that are all trying so hard to become better reflections of the infinite Creator. It must be working because I respect both you and ryan much better today than I did a few months ago when I was banned at EB and very few truth seekers came to my defense. Many times I considered "moving on" from EB but Kat and Chatillon and a couple others "sucked it in" and spoke on my behalf. I stayed the course and little by little I saw things in you and ryan that made me smile and gave me hope that we could all rise above this craziness and find common ground. In particular ao, I discovered that you are actually a very compassionate and very intelligent poster when you allow yourself to be which I believe you are doing so more and more each day. I particularly appreciate Kat that now lives in a community in California that I once briefly called a second home and some of the most interesting moments of my life occurred nearly 50 years ago. She and I may not be on the same wavelength "politically" but we both believe in God's creation and why it is so important to love and respect the inner God that all of us share. I appreciate the opportunity to answer your inquiry ao and I am pleased to be your friend. I hope and pray that others may start to feel the same as well. Do you really believe we have turned our hearts against humanity, or perhaps you are really just as concerned about the future of our planet as we really are? I think we're all on the same page, just waiting for some of us to catch our breath for the next great lessons in life. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question for Bible Thumpers..
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"Do you really believe we have turned our hearts against humanity, or perhaps you are really just as concerned about the future of our planet as we really are? I think we're all on the same page, just waiting for some of us to catch our breath for the next great lessons in life." Yes, I feel something (is it internal or external?) has disrupted the normal flow of energy, from an idealized view in which we all are evolving towards our higher selves, to some distraction that has turned susceptible minds towards our destruction. What that force is I haven’t a clue. I do sense there is a point to it that I have articulated before: That were life on Earth to be denied that would in turn deny our ascension. As if to stop incarnation here our souls would be forfeited, and their energy up for grabs. And in that I see Trump as the tip of the force that is actively working against us. The juxtaposition between the saying ‘love one another’ and Trump’s behavior is a perfect example. Love one another is the bottom line. And the question, for me, is: how do I love a thing that is intent on my destruction? Is my death at the hands of that force required for me to live by my ideals? Or, perchance, is there a point at which self preservation is required of me? That’s a hard question to answer. The animal in me is firmly convinced self preservation is imperative. Christ on the cross suggest otherwise. But Christ had tools we, us, I don't have, or at least I have not found in myself, yet. So it’s a big quandary. And to take it to another level, the health of our planet, and our well-being here, is on the line. So, do we allow the force that's intent on our destruction to destroy life on Earth? Do we allow authoritarian’s to control us? Do we succumb to those that have taken to spreading lies to our detriment? Or do we stand up against it? I think we must stand up to it. But then, on a personal level, I was recently asked by someone that bought a gun because they feel unsafe in their home if I own a gun, and I said no. They followed that question up by asking me why? And I replied, I do not want to live with myself if I used a gun on another. That I would rather be shot than shoot. That I would rather forfeit my life than take another’s life. So, on that one to one level, I am a wimp, I’d rather not be in the position of making that choice. But on a planet wide level? On the bigger level, I think it is imperative we stand up to the Trumps of the world. Trump is using negatives to get (what he promises to be) a positive. But that isn’t possible. Negatives beget more negatives. It’s as simple as that. Trump is turning folks against each other. Trump is using lies to manipulate people. Trump is galvanizing people with hate for their fellow man. It is impossible for that to magically turn to positives. Trumps followers will not all of a sudden be concerned with the welfare of all of us. And we’ve already seen where Trump’s energy takes us. Hitler and Stalin already have shown us what happens if we indulge in Trump. So, how did the church, at least the fraction of the church that supports Trump come to trade in their unquestionable love for all life into the partisan nonsense they now embrace? What force, Nev, shifted their focus to such an extreme? |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
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...our souls are not in "jeopardy", just "neglected". What we do with our souls is a contract between us and God... ...same goes for Trump. Best we focus on our contract and let Trump try to figure it out for himself. He may take a while but hopefully the rest of us have better things to focus on. Those that fear both God and Trump carry an extra burden. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
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Fear God? Why would you do that? |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
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Just found this video ao, been following Elizabeth for a while now, usually just file her videos away mentally but this one resonates, especially considering the "title" above I used "before" finding and watching this video. For the record, I had a lucid dream several years ago that tends to back up Elizabeth's experience except my contact was actually one on one with Trump. I totally agree, Trump is the distraction, not the problem. While I don't like the part Trump is portraying, I do agree it would be easier to go through hell and change with him than with Biden... ...some choice. May the force be we with us all. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
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"The Truth About TRUMP" Maybe a synopsis, a little summary, Nev? I don't watch vids and that chick just starting out yapping is too much for me.. can you at least give me a time mark to go to? Though words would be a whole lot better. I tried jumping around and just got assaulted by adds. Seriously Nev I tried, I just find Youtube folks to be hard to swallow... the way I see it real people, you know, people with real knowledge, ain't making A of themselves on YouTube. Losers are.. |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
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For the record, I suspect Elizabeth is, was, an anti- Trumper. She has contacts in the Galactic Federation and contacted the chief honcho in charge of our solar system. He caught her off guard when he assured her Trump was actually on a very special earth mission to "disrupt" things on the planet, a good guy playing a bad guy roll. Her contact said change would come regardless of whether Biden or Trump becomes the next president except that a Trump transition would be a lot smoother and easier to adjust to then a Biden transition... ...his point, not mine. Personally, considering "all" the craziness going on in the world today, including what's evolving these days on EB, I actually see some of the light at the end of the Galactic tunnel. Personally, back in 2016 after reading Trumps Book, I actually had a lucid dream of Trump that is actually quite compatible with what Elizabeth conveyed from the Federation. Recently many spiritual people have said similar things indicating that the old world order must be replaced by one of a higher vibration. People have been talking about here on EB Spiritual for years now. I took the time to read the comments thinking most of Elizabeth's followers would be shocked by what she posted. Surprisingly nearly every one of them came out of the closet and said that's how they felt about Trump as well. I understand you don't like videos but if you are really serious about wanting to understand this post, you might make an exception here. I was blown away by it, but in retrospect, not that surprised. I really don't know what to make of it other than to suggest a lot of things going on in the world today would tend to point in that direction. Let me know what you think ao. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
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Yeah, Nev, that kine stuff is why I don't do vids.. what I mean by Youtube is a hole losers fall in.. But thanks for articulating it. I greatly appreciate your efforts.. I appreciate you. And no, I don't buy Trump as the way.. and those that do should probably start their own YouTube channel, or whatever it's called. Keep them from getting in too much trouble.. twiddling their thumbs.. like me like me! Serious, Nev, I am sure the owners of YouTube love the traffic. But please don't confuse that nonsense with reality. It'll stunt your growth. Really man.. if any of that was real things would be a lot dif. As it is, it's just noise placating the masses... |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...Trump is the distraction, not the problem ao...
| the best thing about the rump is he shows us in every way how not the BE... |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...is there anyone worthy of emulating ryan?(NT)
| (NT) |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is there anyone worthy of emulating ryan?
| plenty of folks throughout the world and its history...but rump ain't one of them...lol... |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...have you ever missed a really important call in life ryan?
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...this is a really poor time in history to get one wrong. Perhaps you'd care to give this one some more thought before the curtain falls on this act. lol is such a poor exit strategy. |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...have you ever missed a really important call in life ryan?
| i repeat...rump ain't one of them...lol... |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
| ...may not be another one worth catching for a while. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
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I think you’ve tied yourself into a pretzel Nev. There’s just no way you can turn that kine nonsense into wine.. without a complete transmutation.. and hey if you’re advocating for that orange moron’s transmutation I’m all for it.. let those in the afterlife deal with the fucker. But here? Nah, brah, Starkist no like that kine fish. Pilau.. |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
| ...are they trying to JFK candidate Trump? |
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From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
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Thank you for that link, Lee. It's a passalong. Sadly, I think she's right. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
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As I said.. I don’t ‘do’ YouTube.. nor do I do commercials.. so I’m doubly stumped.. But for real, I’ve seen enough YouTube wannabe volcanologist go on about.. and none of them know what they are talking about.. to know the worth of someone telling me something on YouTube is zilch.. but then that’s how it is on Earth 1. I have no idea what’s going on in MAGA’s Earth 2 |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
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...thank goodness I "studied" German in high school and beyond. Studied, not mastered. As for "spiritual matters", I've made them a priority since 1970. Suggesting I wait until the "afterlife" to try to help Trump out or to understand his, mine, or "your" mission in "this" life goes against everything I've learned in the last 50 years. I'm still on EB after 20 years because I "learn" so much from you and ryan. Same with all my friends and with Trump and biden. I think I know you well enough ao to affirm that you really feel the same. The time for "mistakes" is long gone. We're all playing for the big time now... ...all of us... ...including Trump and Biden. Fortionately, we all get to make our own choices, for better or worse. I'm still going for better... ... for all of us. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...I repeat, you're missing the boat ryan...
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Suggesting I wait until the "afterlife" to try to help.. Nev, I think you miss my meaning...but hey, as long as you are able to find redeeming qualities, and are willing to redeem.. have fun. Me? I think this time is better spent elsewhere.. for instance.. This morning I am wondering how many voicings of the C chord can you identify on a 6 string 24 fret guitar in standard tuning? And no, that's not a trick question. The hard part is that pesky low E in the traditional way we make a C. E is in the chord for sure, but it's not the tonic, so we cancel it out and start playing the C on the second string. But, honestly, how many folks cheat and actually play that low E? Oh the mysteries of life.. they are many, eh? But for real, Nev, you know you can just say you like Trump. You don't need to go through all the contortions Nikola has about nose holding and all that. It may not sit well with polite company, but hey, we're all in this boat together, right? |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: we're all in this boat together, right?
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...so it would appear ao... ....and we all have a part to play. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: we're all in this boat together, right?
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'and we all have a part..' Yep, probably as important of one as a grain of sand. But hey, you can't have a beach without 'em.. You know Nev, we have all kinds of sand here.. every beach is unique. Lots of whites, lots of blacks. Sheesh, we even have green! Whole beaches made of olivine crystals.. I got a feeling you got all kinds, eh? |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I got a feeling you got all kinds, eh?
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...we have a rather large sand dune on the far side of the lake, blessed the last couple evenings by persistant rainbows and rather pervasive displays of thunder and lightning. For the record ao, many of the features in the Zen rock garden and "pavillion" were inspired by my experiences along the beachs near Kona on the big Island. The inspiration has served me well over the years. I couldn't live in Kona but I found its' soul mate. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I got a feeling you got all kinds, eh?
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Yes, Kona.. Yes, Kona..
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: we're all in this boat together, right?
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in the words of leadbelly ledbetter: we in the same boat brother we in the same boat brother well if you rock one end you gonna rock the other we in the same boat brother |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...sometimes you have to rock the boat...
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...to wake up the Captains... ...beore they die in their "sleep" We live in interesting times. |
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From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: we're all in this boat together, right?
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Recently, in conversation, I posited a similar perspective, we're all in this together, and was offered the following reply.. We are not all in the same boat. We are all in the same storm. Some are on super-yachts. Some have just one oar. And while the distinctions between us in this are insignificant in the other it did shed a little light on why some folks don't get it.. |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Christ was the one "walking" on the water...
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...for the past few years now we have had a single oar sticking up from the rocks at the Zen garden... ...the birds use it as a point of referance, we use it to guage wind direction and speed. to make things work best in life it's well to include all of above... ...especially the guy that walks on water and still loves you for all that you can be. |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: As it is, it's just noise placating the masses...
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...that's why God gave us access to deep meditation ao... All roads lead to heaven, especially some of the more interesting ones in Hawaii. The one thing we know for sure, regardless of source, is the ubiqitous roadsign claiming CHAOS JUST AHEAD. What we choose to do about it is up to us. |
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From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Fear God? Why would you do that? Ask George...
| ...I don't fear God or Trump. |
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From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Question for Bible ao
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“I do not want to live with myself if I used a gun on another. That I would rather be shot than shoot. That I would rather forfeit my life than take another’s life. So, on that one to one level, I am a wimp, I’d rather not be in the position of making that choice. “ i find this interesting. could you explain the apparent contradiction between the above pacifist sounding words and your warmongering words about destroying moscow and tehran? of your dismissive words about the large numbers of women and children being slaughtered in gaza? do you just not want to kill by your own hand but you are fine with supporting mass killings in far off parts of the world? just seems you care a lot about what you may half do live with without actually respecting human life |
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