Date: February 25, 2024 at 19:40:12 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
a timely response to Shadow's post on the National Bible and Religion board:
...Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
Easy, Hierophant: Fear of hell.
I know, I know. It can be hard to fathom.
Everything that these radical biblicans (in whatever style of expression they may choose) do is from the singular intention of avoiding going to hell. Supporting their church's/religion's party line of choice, that clearly spells out what's acceptable "Christian" behavior and what is not...literally *whatever that may be presented as*...is all they're interested in, and anything whatsoever other than that falls onto deaf-by- choice ears...
Not so hard to understand, really, when you consider it in their context... What price, speaking up for civil rights and freedoms for all? Way, waaaaay too high for mmost of these poor folk who seriously *believe* that doing so would cost them their literal eternal souls...
Sure do wish I didn't understand these people as well as I do...but being raised by them has offered me a certain inside grasp of the twisty psychoemotional realities they're living...and the extents to which their beliefs along these lines fuel them...
My reply to Shadows observations:
I understand how you can come to the conclusion that a "formal" religious or spiritual path can result in a confining "fear" of "hell" scenario but truth be known, I know a lot "religious" folks that have encountered that "issue" and quite lovingly "overcame" it with minimal effort.
I've also personally known many "spiritually" responsible" individuals that should have known better who get "trapped" by numerous obstacles they thought they were "immune" to.
The good news is that no matter which path you choose and which of many mistakes we will all make, the "destination" in my opinion leads to "heaven" even if the journey may be a bit "hellish" at times.
That may explain that why in my own "journey" I choose not to discriminate against those whose journey in life takes them down a different path than mine.
Sooner or later, we all come together regardless of personal judgement.
I look forward to the day I'll sit down for lunch in the Heavenly Diner and break bread with Biden, Trump and the whole EB Gang including ryan and bopp.
As for "civil rights", my "Mormon" parents taught me at a very early age to respect all people regardless of race, color or religion.
It was then up to me to practice those principles
or not.
...I did.
I'm also pretty sure political party affiliation or preference is not going to be a priority question once we "all" reach the Pearly Gates.
Date: February 26, 2024 at 14:31:48 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
All that political affiliation verses religion is only an issue because Trump guys are using the stupidity of some churches to leverage their followers to uphold his insanity. And, many of them are buying it.
I am sure, positive, there are many, millions, who are only concerned about the things religion offers. But, as it appears, there are also many that are happy as pie to sidle up to a dictator if it serves their interests.
But to the central point. There’s a wide swath of church going people willing to abandon their bible studies in exchange for power. They may think they are right in their particular ideals, but their lust for power drowns any hope they may have for doing good. They literally are swapping their ideas for a trip to hell. If hell, as they believe, is the price one pays for abandoning Jesus.. they’re all buying estates there.
At this point I am sick of religion having anything to do with politics on any level at all. As soon as a politician evokes god they should be fired. Period. The constitution is clear on this.. and only very corrupt politicians think it’s something they can manipulate to their own greedy ends. It should be simple. Invoke god while on government property and you get sent home, and are not welcomed back.
Date: February 26, 2024 at 16:40:26 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
It should be simple. Invoke god while on government property and you get sent home, and are not welcomed back...
...then why does our "government" REQUIRE us, while clearly on "government property" to swear in public "so help me God"?
As for Churches abusing power, I know personally that the "abuse of power" is an almost universal human trait, and also saw power "abused" by several of my animal friends at the Zen Garden a couple hours ago. I softly asked them to lighten up and also checked to make sure I wasn't abusing my own considerable power.
I work with the issue of personal power abuse almost every moment of my life because I take it seriously enough to do so.
I wish my own Country and other nations would do likewise.
Someone had to set the example...
Christ is one that did. Most of the rest of us are still working on it, some harder than others.
Abuse of power in government came along long before the concept of Trump's "Christian assist" did and will exist and be blamed on someone else long after he leaves the stage.
It's always easier to blame someone else than start the lifelong process of cleaning our "own" house which could actually lead to a real change for the better.
I appreciate you becoming part of the conversation ao...
I usually don't get the opportunity, powers that be being what they are.
"A myth is an explanatory narrative that serves to unify a society, justifying its past and validating its present. "
Just like the Jesus Christ myth. It more than unified a society, it secured an empire.
This video gives an introduction to the impeccably researched, excellent book by Joseph Atwill, Caesar's Messiah. Recently read it, then re-read it.
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CAESAR'S MESSIAH
Seven of today's most controversial Bible scholars reveal their shocking conclusions about the origins of Christianity. Based on the best-selling religious studies book by Joseph Atwill, this documentary shows that Jesus is not a historical figure, the events of Jesus' life were based on a Roman military campaign, his supposed second coming refers to a historical event that already occurred, the teachings of Christ came from the ancient pagan mystery schools, and the Gospels were written by a family of Caesars and their supporters, who left us documents to prove it.
Dissecting the history and literature of this time, the scholars show that the Gospels are a sophisticated pro-Roman multi-layered allegorical text that could not have been written by simple Jewish fishermen. Noting that the history officially provided by the Church does not hold up to rigorous scrutiny, the scholars agree that Christianity was used as a political tool to control the masses of the day, and is still being used this way today.
Much like the ancient era from which Christianity emerged, we are currently on the brink of an immense paradigm shift, and studying this history can help us understand modern-day politics, and give us the much-needed perspective for coming up with solutions to today's problems, in order to create the better world that we envision.
TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Introduction 06:50 - Part One: The Flavians' Rise to Power 07:50 - The Julio-Claudian Dynasty 19:16 - Josephus 22:20 - The Roman Imperial Cult 28:45 - Ruling Families: a Conspiracy 32:26. - Part Two: The Documents 32:43 - The Authors of the Gospels 43:01 - Pagan Parallels 46:16 - Old Testament Parallels 49:58 - The Son of Man 52:27 - Christian Flavians 54:56 - Typology 1:07:07 - The Flavian Signature 1:12:02 - Conclusions
Featured scholars are Joseph Atwill, Robert Eisenman, John Hudson, Kenneth Humphreys, Rod Blackhirst, Acharya S / D.M. Murdock, and Timothy Freke.
Date: February 29, 2024 at 11:12:38 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
Answers prayers, eh?
Haven't you noticed Nev, man is destroying the planet.. and you think there's some guy just kicking back and listening to their silly concerns while they can't even figure out how to be kind to each other? Can't even find a way to care about life itself? Can't find a way to not destroy everything we touch?
Yeah, well, if you believe that I got some ocean from property I'll sell you for a song and a dance..
Date: February 29, 2024 at 17:48:13 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Re-programming the masses to accept God's blessings...
...thanks for the offer ao, but I already have some "almost" lakefront property that meets most of my "visual" needs.
If it's "God's plan" to save our souls, what could be a better blueprint than to give us little earth angels the "option" to work things out? God could have just "granted" us instant perfection, but what's the value in that?
As for "answering our prayers", that may be a bit much for you and I to handle presently, but "God" has this "omnipresent" thing going that makes quick work of that. I think Elon Musk almost has a handle on it as well just in case.
As for the concept of do prayers work for the unwashed masses as promised, my "trial runs" over the last couple years seem to be on the affirmative side lately. I've even expanded the concept over the last couple weeks and find it seems to work just as well for my more skeptical friends whether they believe it will or not...
...I do the prayers and they reap the blessings.
That's like the spirit of Christmas any time you wish.
Always a pleasure to hear from you ao, hopefully your visits here will become a habit since I'm pretty much limited to this forum for the foreseeable future.
Just imagine the possibilities.
And to think God gave us this ability from day one.
With those abilities in your pocket, who even needs politicians anymore?
Date: March 01, 2024 at 09:51:38 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Re-programming the masses to accept God's blessings...
Hey, Nev, mahalo for indulging my ramblings. And please, don't think for a minute that I have anything but the utmost respect for the power of prayer. I was just pointing out that the power is shaped by the definitions we give it. How we focus our attention. And, by no means is it contained in one or another's beliefs. But something all, almost universally, have found in their own ways. And each in their turn, given their own definitions.
As to the story of the Christ, I am partial to Levi's telling, but am sure whatever vehicle one employs in their contemplation serves them as well.
One thing that I have considered of late is how it is that Albert, no matter how hard he may have tried, couldn't mathematically conceptualize a unifying theory.. that one point alone impresses me. You can feel it, you can have faith in it, but creation is so varied that our minds, even one of the best of them, can't fathom all of it, as one.
It's like astronomy, they've pondered the light that reach us for a long time and yet there's a vast amount, more than 95%, of all the matter out there that still remains beyond their comprehension.
And you know, your lizards, and the fish I swim with in my sea, are as close to, as much of, as sacred as you and me. Just because we can fathom a question and all its possible answers don't mean we're any more important than any of it. And all the importance we attribute to ourselves is nonsense when we consider the mark we're leaving is the stain of using our home as a dump.
Date: March 01, 2024 at 14:56:24 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Re-programming the masses to accept God's blessings...
...I'd like to hear your understanding of his teachings and how it has affected your life. I suspect what he wrote and how you actually practice those teachings would be fascinating.
If that's not possible, at least provide a link to the appropriate message and perhaps we can discuss it further.
Date: February 28, 2024 at 09:48:25 From:chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
thousands of people who jesus has appeared to. any flesh and blood from apparitions are -ab blood type. prophecy fulfilled in many sites around the world. Fatima where 50,000 folks saw the miracle in the sky. if you were satan and you wanted to destroy belief in Jesus, what would you do? this article is one of satans tools.
Date: February 29, 2024 at 07:07:33 From:chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
critical thinking is one of Gods gifts to us. God came here in the womb of a virgin in a stable in Bethlehem. no one could have made that story up. and the faith Jesus brought us has stood the test of time for 2000 years. critical thinking tells me that is the truth. i am at peace knowing that even though some might think i am just a cog in lifes machine working forever.
Date: March 06, 2024 at 19:35:38 From: Kat, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
Amen Chas!
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Date: March 02, 2024 at 08:50:19 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
I think you're a miracle. Not anymore than a slug or a mountain on the moon, but omg a miracle none-the-less.
Although I am curious, what do you mean by "critical thinking?"
Obviously you don't care for the scientific method. So, without it, what about your thinking is "critical?" You're ideas are based on your faith in them, right? You believe because it suits you, not because you have any proof in what you believe. Right? So, again, what about your faith is critical thinking?
Date: March 02, 2024 at 11:25:29 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: what about your faith is critical thinking?
Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action.
...and even then, because of the direction our society is headed and limitations in finding accurate information, critical thinking is becoming less effective every day.
Having said that ao, what difference does it make anymore if we depend on "critical thinking" or depending on "faith".
One thing I personally know for sure, that if you meditate and tap your inner knowledge which is linked to the "infinite", you can figure it out.
The other thing I know for sure, is that the thirst for understanding is much more important than the path chosen to reach it.
Date: March 02, 2024 at 11:48:09 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: what about your faith is critical thinking?
Ok, you agree, critical thinking is an adherence to the scientific method. So, if we know that Chas does not adhere to anything scientific, I mean, he treats women as something less than men, when in fact they are equal to if not more than men, what are we to understand Chas means when he invokes ‘critical thinking?’ I really hope he’ll jump in here and give us his definition, but hey I love hearing your’s.
Date: March 02, 2024 at 12:12:29 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: what about your faith is critical thinking?
ao, why this obsession with Charles's failure to meet "your" perceived standards when it comes to women or critical thinking?
It's my understanding that "unconditional love" for one another is one of the key takeaways for a successful life on this planet before moving on.
Can you name even one other EB poster that is a more loving and forgiving soul than Charles?
We all have our moments both good and bad, but finding fault in others before we heal our own Sacred Heart is a common mistake that many humans, myself included make a lot.
I'm pretty sure God placed us here to help and learn from one another. Is that really so difficult?
Date: March 02, 2024 at 13:10:10 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: what about your faith is critical thinking?
"Can you name even one other EB poster that is a more loving and forgiving soul than Charles?"
Hey, Nev, I am not obsessed as much as I am curious, what to a faith based mind such as Charlie's is the meaning of critical thinking? Seriously, I have all sorts of faith, but at the same time I am oriented to facts, to repeatable facts. In fact, I believe faith should be subject to the same critical analysis as all other aspect of creation. To the scientific method. Whereas Chas seems to discount science, so I am curious.
Here's an interesting example.. I've spent a lot of time monitoring volcanic activity as a part of a team effort with other volcanologists.. and we, as do many scientific endeavors do, have a strong working relationship with the local university.
At one point, a professor of geology stumbled upon the church and declared himself to be saved. And furthermore, as new devotees often do, he would expound upon his new found modality, and when it presented conflicts we'd ask him about it. Such as, how does he reconcile his new belief that our world is only something like six thousand years old with the geologic record he teaches to students that encompasses millions of years. His answer, God made old rock.
That never sat well with the rest of us, but as long as he peddled the party line, and not replace it with his new old rocks theories he could walk the line. But, as you can imagine, his was a up hill battle when compared to the accepted norms of modern geophysics.
So, out of a similar curiosity, I am interested in how a faith based mind, who obviously does not give any credence to the scientific method, describes 'critical thinking?' It's a reasonable question, isn't it?
As to Charlie's love? He may be loving, but I have seen him be more condemning of others then accepting. In fact, his expressed beliefs about imposing laws to subjugate women are scary to me. I would certainly not let my daughters get within miles of that kind of judgement. So yeah, I am curious? Aren't you?
Date: March 02, 2024 at 13:58:24 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: what about your faith is critical thinking?
So, out of a similar curiosity, I am interested in how a faith based mind, who obviously does not give any credence to the scientific method, describes 'critical thinking?' It's a reasonable question, isn't it?
Critical scientific thinking once believed the earth was flat ao...
...now we know critical scientific thinking "theory" failed us on that point. In fact, it probably "fails" as much, if not more than the "faith" you consider Charles's "weakness". The Bible suggests that we all can "be still and know", something I have practiced and received "correct" information for decades...
...a phenomenon that "scientists and critical thinkers" are just now starting to investigate and reluctantly admitting is a valid and promising avenue for science to consider.
I'm not sure what the "female equality" issue is you seem to have with Charles, but I was born a Mormon and was intimately aware of that Church's "perceived" shortings when it came to both women and race and I moved on when I was 16. Having said that, I also came to understand that despite those "teachings" there are many many Mormons in my life that consider Women equal and are not racist in the least... it was "their call", not the Churches that ultimately moulded and expanded their spirits and souls.
Ever met a non-Church goer that didn't respect women or was a racist? I have, plenty of them. Is the Church to blame for that, or do we understand the shortcomings and perhaps try to help them overcome their weaknesses?
I respect your "curiosity" ao, but I still maintain that Charles is by far one of the most "balanced" posters on EB, by a country smile.
I wish I had his patience and compassion for all of God's creation, regardless of whether it took 7 days 7 trillion years, or perhaps exists only in this "moment"...
Date: March 02, 2024 at 15:58:38 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: what about your faith is critical thinking?
“I wish I had..”
You have it all, and so much more Nev, if you want it. The choices we make. We’re all limited by them, aren’t we?
As to any idea I think faith is a weakness, I am sorry if the words I used caused you to come to that conclusion. Especially in that I think that faith is a strength. All I’ve been trying to point out is the power of our faith is molded by our definitions of that which we have faith in.
If anything, I’m suggesting there are other attributes, other than faith, that need as much nurturing, exercise, strengthening, as does faith, for us to be able to formulate even a remote image of the universe.. of god.. that we are a part of.
Date: March 02, 2024 at 17:30:50 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: what about your faith is critical thinking?
If anything, I’m suggesting there are other attributes, other than faith, that need as much nurturing, exercise, strengthening, as does faith, for us to be able to formulate even a remote image of the universe.. of god.. that we are a part of.
...on this I would completely agree ao. I would only add that each of us will use variations on that approach and time permitting, will reach the common goal of full and appropriate God Realization.
I appreciate that you and I have a lot more in common than I might have guessed.
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Date: February 28, 2024 at 23:16:58 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: if critical thinking is one of satan's tools, sign me up.
...it's been suggested that if there were no "satan" there would no need for a God to guide us to the right path.
I'm guessing one man's' curse is another's blessing. Or another way of saying that is we all have important roles to play...
...even our "enemies".
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Date: February 27, 2024 at 11:51:13 From: akira, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
I think snodrop would have really appreciated this...
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 23:12:09 From: ryan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
Members of Congress aren’t bound to using Bibles to take their oaths of office. According to the Constitution, they are only bound “by oath or affirmation” to support the Constitution and no religious text is required as a qualification for office.
Three presidents didn’t use Bibles for their swearings-in: John Quincy Adams used a volume of law; Theodore Roosevelt took his oath without any books or religious texts – he became president after his predecessor WIlliam McKinley died; and Lyndon B. Johnson used a Catholic missal belonging to President John F. Kennedy after Kennedy’s assassination.
In 2007, Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim member of Congress, took his oath with a Quran – a choice that incensed some members of the House at the time. In 2019, Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, the first Muslim women in the House of Representatives, were sworn in with their own copies of the Quran (though Tlaib considered using Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Muslim text).
Though not a lawmaker, former ambassador to Sweden and Liechtenstein Suzi LeVine made an unusual choice for her 2014 swearing-in. Instead of a physical text, she took her oath with an Amazing Kindle e-reader and a digital version of the Constitution. It may’ve been a wink to her career in tech – before her ambassadorship, LeVine worked for Microsoft.
Date: March 01, 2024 at 16:17:19 From: Kat, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritariani
Isn’t that the truth Nevada! It’s so rampant in today’s world! There are so many people walking around with frowns on their face these day. If they only understood your face uses more muscles to frown than to smile they might give it a try. I’m reading a book written by Tyrus. Title’Nuff Said’. Finding it hard to put down. HE shows up on Gutfeld. We DVR it. So we watch it when we want. (Fox News) most nights it’s very funny. Tyrus always is the one to speak with humor and tons of common sense. He always said if he ever lost in the ring of wresting he would quit, that happened this yr. And he did quit. He & Gutfeld are so good together! Tyrus is like 6’3” big ! Gutfeld is maybe 5’4”. Kat is another cohost.
Date: March 01, 2024 at 22:38:29 From: Kat, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritariani
Don’t understand why that posted twice, oh well.
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Date: March 01, 2024 at 16:20:43 From: Kat, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritariani
Don’t understand why that posted twice, oh well.
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Date: March 01, 2024 at 16:15:22 From: Kat, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritariani
Isn’t that the truth Nevada! It’s so rampant in today’s world! There are so many people walking around with frowns on their face these day. If they only understood your face uses more muscles to frown than to smile they might give it a try. I’m reading a book written by Tyrus. Title’Nuff Said’. Finding it hard to put down. E shows up on Gutfeld. We DVR it. So we watch it when we want. (Fox News) most nights it’s very funny. Tyrus always is the one to speak with humor and tons of common sense. He always said if he ever lost in the ring of wresting he would quit, that happened this yr. And he did quit. He & Gutfeld are so good together! Tyrus is like 6’3” big ! Gutfeld is maybe 5’4”.
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Date: February 27, 2024 at 09:59:45 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
You're still selling religion, Nev.
It has nothing, nada, zip to do with governance. Sure, you're a better person if you have a loving heart, but at the same time the process of governing has nothing to do with it. And, being a multi-national multi-ethnic society we have norms that if followed respect all without imposing any one idea on others.
And, besides, to can god, to say the creator is one thing or another, to place boundaries on what is essentially boundless limits the imposer. I am certain, upon reflection, you'd suggest we avoid such folly. It's all one brah. And any division of it, at all, just robs the divider of the possibilities, of their potential..
In other words there's no place for one's beliefs, especially when they are not held universally, in government. And we all suffer when one imposes their beliefs on others.
Date: February 28, 2024 at 13:31:37 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
See Nev, I suggest that our definitions themselves limit our perception and instead of that being even considered Chas tells us his definition is the only one, period.
The universe is big. Chas's brain is little more than a grain of sand.. and rather than use what he has he doesn't consider all but a minute point. A single point of view when in fact he doesn't have enough gray matter to consider a fraction of all the possible views, of the creator of all and everything. And, still, he suggests it all boils down to some commandments that nobody follows. He clings to them, and yet supports a man that pisses on them. He suggests we all are going to suffer unless we adhere to them and yet our entire society doesn't give a wooden nickel for them.
Yes to the Christ, but all that other mumble jumble is but men manipulating a story to their own ends. And still, by my measure, any version that doesn't recognize the sacredness of all things, living, breathing and inanimate, here and a gazillion light years away, is nonsense. Absolute poppycock.
As I was saying, you can't mix faith based religion with science based government. Faith is all well and good.. but the management of our collective affairs requires a method that honors all regardless of their faith, and is able to get things done. As such, rather than Chas going on about what he believes verses my saying otherwise we need a method that allows for both without judging one or the other.
As I said.. religion has no place in government. At all, none.
Date: February 28, 2024 at 23:06:42 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: we need a method that allows for both without judging one or the other
...bingo ao!
I find it interesting that despite your criticism of Chas, he is also the only one whose forum I am allowed to post on without being deleted or banned.
He is obviously doing something right, something nobody else seems to think is worth mastering.
Eternal truth be known, Charles spiritual values are no threat to anyone here. Our government's policy of endless conflict and manipulation actually is a tremendous threat both globally and for each of us personally.
Why not address that?
Each of us are on our own paths in this lifetime, some we share, some we navigate somewhat on our own. All are important regardless of religion and or spiritual path... ditto politics.
Chas is doing just fine and his sense of fairness way above par.
The rest of us need to catch up and give him some slack while we do our part.
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Date: February 27, 2024 at 14:57:00 From:chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address] Subject: Jesus told us the facts, the commandments and how to live by them
simple, but all of us make it hard to do. we try to change them to suit us. regardless of what gvmnt says, we have to follow the commandments. china don't like or rather communism tries to change it. it's gonna happen here. '
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Date: February 27, 2024 at 09:38:45 From: ryan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
"...what's interesting Charles is that so many, by choice, continue to respect God and authority in Government.
That actually should explain pretty clearly why Trump is still the strongest player currently in the "game" of Presidential ascension."
two sentences that have nothing to do with each other...
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 19:44:19 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
...excellent point ao, now we know that while our first President may have had many slaves, he did not mix God with Governance or politics.
Ironically Trump has actually suggested some of the indidginities he has suffered since becoming President have helped him understand the situation many "blacks" still feel.
It would be interesting to see if this translates to black votes in November and Trump becomes a mighty force for peace and unification.
Maybe "In Trump We Trust" will become the new "oath", if not the next version of the $2 bill? I wonder if Christ is amused by any of this?
Date: February 27, 2024 at 08:32:00 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: i think there is way too much at stake to be "amused" by it...
...even more is at stake if you "can't" be amused by it ryan.
If the choice is between "amusement" and "revenge" and destruction, I'll take the "smile" any day of the week including Sunday.
Hopefully the odds favor reconciliation and harmony over the current war by attrition with the probability of global annihilation.
Somebodys needs to grow up before we lose it all.
Christ had it all figured out pretty well. What seems to be holding us back?
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 17:47:28 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
yeah, swearing on ones chosen bible to be sworn into office...many assume they are swearing to prove their will to do what they said they'd do; uphold -defend the Constitution.... we all know how this goes.
Date: February 26, 2024 at 18:26:48 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pre-programming the masses to accept authoritarianism
I wonder which is more dangerous, swearing allegiance on a religious text or swearing allegiance to a political party which may or may not have your best interest at heart?
It's usually easier to blame someone else for our shortcomings but rarely more beneficial in the long run I suspect.