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Date: February 13, 2024 at 13:45:14
From: Leonard, [DNS_Address]
Subject: DID JESUS WORSHIP YAHWEH (of old testament) ? |
URL: DID JESUS WORSHIP YAHWEH? | ET CONTACT VS RELIGION by Wallis |
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Date: February 17, 2024 at 10:49:14
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: DID JESUS WORSHIP YAHWEH (of old testament) ? |
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Seeing as he is the Son of God*, I'd say yes.
A Google search of the meaning of the word Yahweh finds:
"The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).Jan 4, 2024 https://www.britannica.com › topic Yahweh | YHWH, Adonai, Elohim"
People around the globe use different names to describe God, but it's a rare person who doesn't believe there is a force more than our own bodies, more than our own planet Earth.
* We all are children of God. Unfortunately some decide that their interpretation of God is "the DEVIL". Such a sad belief, but given the circumstances of their lives and their tortured, twisted minds, such a unhealthy view can be understandable. One can only hope they come to their senses and don't foster that heinous interpretation of God in others, particularly young children.
As an aside, I believe the Bible, a history book and a book of prophecy, fortuitously warned us about the deadly and destructive "mark of the beast", the mRNA vaccines.
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Date: February 17, 2024 at 18:49:50
From: Leonard, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: DID JESUS WORSHIP YAHWEH (of old testament) ? |
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/24921.html |
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http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/2 4921.html
"Contempt prior to investigation", as the saying goes...
destroys credibility fast.
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Date: February 18, 2024 at 06:08:54
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ???? That Post Has NOTHING to Do With my Post. If Anything, that... |
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...post seems to be of a person swatting at the wind, or at best, a dribble/word salad post concerning semantics.
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Date: February 13, 2024 at 15:01:56
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: that was his Father |
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and he was one with his father. the Father asked jesus to take the sins of the world to redeem humanity.
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Date: February 16, 2024 at 18:32:01
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: that was his Father |
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And then there is the trinity (truth)
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Date: February 13, 2024 at 15:32:39
From: Leonard, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Nope - not per Wallis Re: that was his Father |
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Wallis makes the case that Father and YahVeH are two different entities-- since Jesus condemned YahVeh but not his Father -- who is God....
Watch the video first and read Wallis's Comment in the video comments section (which may be pinned at the top of the comments section.)
Wallis explains a maneuver made in splicing Scripts together which wittingly or Unwittingly caused people to conflate YahVeH with (Jesus's) Father-- aka God.
He quotes scriptures sections where Jesus condemns YaHweH and discriminates between the Father.
Shouldn't You know what Jesus said about it before speaking about it? If so then watch the vid. or show "Contempt prior to investigation" as the saying goes.
Wallis's logic is strong and convincing though I have not fully checked it all out myself.
Shouldn't "God('s qualities') get more than a "5 second snap judgement" from you on this matter (as I imagine some might say)?
Anyway, to discuss a subject in an informed way you need to absorb "the other party's" content and arguments first to objectively rebuttal it-- ifn you think you can.
Remember -- "people perish for lack of knowledge".
I'll be looking forward to your informed and reasoned Reuttal to Wallis's thesis. -- if you think you can create one.
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Date: February 18, 2024 at 08:47:58
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Nope - not per Wallis Re: that was his Father |
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For the most part, from what I’ve listened to so far, I agree. There are a few things I question … I still have difficulty with the book of Revelations and from Wallis’s perspective how do you reconcile that text?
Also, before Saul was ever anointed as king by Samuel, Samuel told him that the nation had sinned by asking for a “king” to rule over them. Something that today has still not changed. Also Jeremiah states that “laws were given to the people that would not be good for them” (I’m paraphrasing) also the most high Father is the creator of it ALL the tohu va bohu, the order and chaos. The Father is outside the realm of any human comprehension. He is the end All be All of it All. And Yashuas teachings to “love the Lord YOUR God with all you are and your fellow neighbor ( that which we share this existence with)as yourself “ shows , to me, right there that the kingdom of heaven is within everything .
My thoughts on this. Thank you for sharing. I will ruminate on it.
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Date: February 14, 2024 at 18:53:37
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...it's my understanding JahVeh was an "alien" being... |
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...of "godlike" abilities but still a few steps removed.
That explains a lot of the conflicting information in the "old" Testiment thus explaining why Jesus and the Rabies had such strong disagreeements. Whether you look to Jesus as "God" or the "son" of God is probably less important than the important message he brought with him to "humanity".
If you follow the "teachings" of Jesus, you're probably a few steps ahead of the "game".
If you're tied down to JahWeh, you have a good explanation as to why the world is currently in the turmoil currently gripping a large part of the "World".
Misuse and abuse of "power", whether devine or otherwise is usuall a "heart" breaker, let alone a soul breaker.
Fortionately, unlike "JahWeh", the teachings of Christ can set you on a pretty good path " to the "father" regardless of your formal religion.
Just my experience in life.
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Date: February 15, 2024 at 11:44:38
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...it's my understanding JahVeh was an "alien" being... |
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👍🙌I agree with that understanding- seems he was acting like a very jealous god... too many "human" egoic attributes to be truly a spiritual being.
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Date: February 17, 2024 at 10:57:25
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...it's my understanding JahVeh was an "alien" being... |
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yes, according to a book i read about this
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