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Date: January 17, 2024 at 05:48:42
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn

URL: Pope Francis Should Be Arrested Over 'Perverted' Book




Pope Francis Should Be Arrested Over 'Perverted' Book, Archbishop Says

Chloe Mayer

An archbishop has launched an attack against Pope Francis over the controversy surrounding a book written by a cardinal in 1998.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, an Italian clergyman who has frequently found himself at odds with Pope Francis over the direction of the Catholic church, has taken to social media to blast a resurfaced book written 25 years ago by another cleric. The archbishop views the work as "pornographic" and a "perversion," and has now demanded the arrest of both the writer, Cardinqqal Víctor Manuel Fernández, and the Pope.

Newsweek has reached out to the Vatican by email seeking comment.

The archbishop previously served as a Vatican ambassador to the U.S. for five years; he was appointed as Apostolic Nuncio in 2011 and remained in post until his retirement in 2016. He has become an increasingly outspoken critic of the Pope and the church as it navigates the modern age and grapples with issues such as sexuality, the COVID-19 pandemic, and historic sexual abuse scandals. His warnings of a globalist conspiracy saw him win the approving attention of then-President Donald Trump in 2020, which elevated his status further.


The archbishop's campaign has escalated after he called for the arrest of the head of the Catholic church.
What Is the Controversy Over?

Archbishop Viganò was responding to a recently resurfaced book from 1998 called Mystical Passion: Spirituality and Sensuality, written by the then-priest Fernández. The book reportedly includes graphic descriptions of male and female orgasms in addition to discussing how sexual partners could find God in climax. Newsweek has not accessed a copy of the book.

The clergyman suggested God could "make himself present when two human beings love each other and reach orgasm; and that orgasm, lived in the presence of God, can also be a sublime act of the presence of God," the Catholic Herald magazine wrote in a commentary, quoting Fernández's book.

The book resurfaced after the now-Cardinal Fernández, with the Pope's approval, allowed pastors to give non-liturgical blessings to couples in "irregular situations," such as gay couples or cohabiting unmarried partners.

On January 8, Viganò took to social media site X 9k(formerly Twitter) and—referring to the Pope as "the Argentinean" and Fernandez as "Tucho"—wrote: "The blasphemous sewer regurgitations of Tucho's repulsive pamphlet show such a level of perversion and alienation to the Faith as to demand the expulsion manu militari of the Argentinean and his accomplices. The Swiss Guards have sworn to defend the See of Peter, not the one who is systematically demolishing it. Let them therefore be faithful to their oath and arrest these heretical perverts!"

The blasphemous sewer regurgitations of Tucho’s repulsive pamphlet show such a level of perversion and alienation to the Faith as to demand the expulsion manu militari of the Argentinean and his accomplices.

The Swiss Guards have sworn to defend the See of Peter, not the one who… pic.twitter.com/aKEuOtklqZ
— Arcivescovo Carlo Maria Viganò (@CarloMVigano) January 8, 2024

On January 8, the Cardinal gave an interview to Catholic website Crux and said he had been young when he wrote the book, adding: "I certainly would not write [it] now."

He said: "Long after that book, I wrote much more serious ones like, The Healing Force of Mysticism... [and I] never allowed it to be reprinted." He said he tried to help couples "better understand the spiritual meaning of their relationships," but added that he had later tried to quash the book amid fears it "could be misinterpreted."

A few days later, Archbishop Viganò again took to X to share a link to his full statement on the issue, by directing readers to a Catholic website called Exsurge Domine.

Repeatedly calling the Pope "Bergoglio"—referencing the pontiff's birth name of Jorge Mario Bergoglio—he wrote: "Look at... Bergoglio's audiences with transsexuals, well-known homosexuals, and cohabiting lovers: can anyone seriously believe that there is no coherence in this cesspool of vices and perversions with what Tucho wrote in 1998?"

The Vatican has not responded to the archbishop's criticisms over the years and has not addressed his calls for the Pope and the Cardinal to be arrested.
Uncommon Knowledge


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24864


Date: January 17, 2024 at 06:37:23
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


"Pornography"...lololol...

Only ones who'd find that pornographic are those whose
fears have so crippled and frozen their minds, they cannot
even find within themselves the allowance that the ecstasy
of experiencing The Divine might extend into one's
experiences of sexuality...and that such experiences might
be spoken of, shared in the public eye...

Nothing but sad as it gets... ;(


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Date: January 17, 2024 at 08:10:07
From: shatterbrain , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn

URL: ‘Sexual pleasure a gift from God’




‘Sexual pleasure a gift from God’ but avoid porn, Pope Francis advises

Angela Giuffrida


“Sexual pleasure is a gift from God” but Catholics must avoid pornography, Pope Francis has said.

The pontiff made the remarks during a catechesis devoted to the “vice of lust” at his general audience in Saint Peter’s Square on Wednesday.

Sexual pleasure was something to be cherished, he said, but it was being “undermined by pornography”, and “satisfaction without a relationship can generate forms of addiction”.

“We must defend love,” the pope said. But he added: “Winning against the battle of lust can be a lifelong undertaking.”

Francis appeared to be responding to his conservative critics, who were incensed last week after a book resurfaced featuring sexually explicit content written decades ago by the Vatican’s head of doctrine.

The book, now out of print, by Víctor Manuel Fernández, an Argentinian cardinal close to Francis who was already known as the author of another sexually charged book written in his youth, included a chapter describing the differences between male and female orgasms.

In response to the more recent scandal, Fernández, whose appointment to one of the Vatican’s most powerful positions was criticised by conservative cardinals, told Crux: “I would certainly not write [that] now.”

In 2022, during a talk with seminarians about the dangers of social media, the pope warned against the “devil” of digital pornography, while admitting that priests and nuns also watch online porn. “It is a vice that so many people have. So many laymen, so many laywomen, and also priests and nuns,” he said. “The devil enters from there.”

In late 2020, the Vatican was left in an embarrassing predicament when it was forced to “seek explanations from Instagram” after Pope Francis’s official Instagram, which along with his other social media accounts is managed by a team of people, “liked” a photo of the Brazilian model Natalia Garibotto. The “like” from the pope’s account was visible on Garibotto’s page for several days before being unliked.

The Vatican said at the time: “We can exclude that the ‘like’ came from the Holy See”.


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Date: January 17, 2024 at 08:52:38
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


Once again…a massive fear-based mischaracterization intending to
project “evil” onto sexuality…

There is no organized religion that holds the first clue as to the true
sanctity of human sexuality as a bridge to the Divine…and all human
fears of its power must demonize it each according to their needs and
beliefs, individually and en masse…


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24868


Date: January 17, 2024 at 09:26:56
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


It is sacred, but it is used by fucked up individual’s for subjugation. That
form is evil and is destructive to the soul.


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24869


Date: January 17, 2024 at 09:45:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


Yes, I’m very well aware of that, sher….

My responses were offered within the context of the original post…


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Date: January 17, 2024 at 10:24:39
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


Those who have a fear of it may have experienced the subjugation of it
and shouldn’t be demonized. Sodom and Gomorrah was not destroyed
because of homosexuality, it was destroyed because of the mindset of
rape and subjugation. How are we ever to heal as humans if we don’t cut
some slack for those we don’t agree with. Anger is always a secondary
emotion from fear. Don’t be upset with me. I don’t mean any offense. I just
putting my thoughts out there.


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Date: January 17, 2024 at 10:58:36
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


Sher, I'm not upset with you. I'm just being very clear
about something very close to my heart.

By identifying that it is fear at the heart of so much
hatred, violence and inhumanity directed toward those who
express/experience the sanctity of sexuality
*differently* than how organized-religious dogma
validates as acceptable, is *not demonizing the fear, nor
those who cannot love past those fears*! It is simply
speaking the truth of what it is, and for good reason.

(Obviously we're not talking about violence like rape,
the subjugation of women nor any other angle of abuse;
this is never, ever an expression of sacred
sexuality........)

Do you see those who have different, more expanded
experiences of sacred sexuality railing against those
with more conservative ones, simply for the fact that
they're more conservative? ;) Saying, "Hey, your
experience isn't sacred, only mine is, because it's more
free!" No. You don't. ;) I'd say the slack is far more
due from the end of those whose fears demand they judge
others unlike themselves...

And yes, I wholeheartedly acknowledge that these fears,
however they came to be, are more than worthy of
compassionate understanding! Absolutely they are! Yet
that compassion *does not contradict* also standing up
for contexts of experience that are different, that
people's fears cause them to disrespect, invalidate and
even work to curtail the freedoms of those experiencing
them... In other words, no, I'm not going to submit to
those dissing and invalidating contexts of experience I
know to be sacred, just because I understand how their
fears came about and have compassion for that... ;)

Is this a little clearer I hope? ;)


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Date: January 17, 2024 at 11:34:23
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


Yes! Thank you 😊🙏🏼


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24866


Date: January 17, 2024 at 08:13:56
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pope Francis accused of pedalling porn


seems the pope would have a better idea of what sex is all about...pleasure has nothing to do with it...


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