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Date: June 25, 2023 at 09:45:37
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
URL: https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/republicans-are-pro-patriarchal-white-christian-nationalism-not-pro-life/ |
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...& Not "Pro-Life"...
Too hard to pick one board, to me belongs both here and on National...
The willful ignorance (by so many!) of the graphic parallels between the rise of the Nazis and the perverse spectre of White Nationalist Christian Fascism appearing to loom over our horizon needs our most blindingly brilliant floodlights upon them, like, yesterday and ongoingly until no vestige of capacity for them to come to power remains... The flipflop mindspell they have cast, in their pathetic attempts to deflect their intentions as being solely defensive in nature, to somehow correct progressive humanity's tailspin into satanic darkness and hell for all, is, yes, disintegrating with each humanitarian heart and voice countering it...and we must maintin the momentum as it rises to victory...
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The chaplains in the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives open each session with a prayer, they coordinate religious programs, reside over funerals and memorial services, and they provide pastoral care for members of Congress, their staffs, and their families. They are hired by majority vote of the members in each chamber.
Though they serve as individuals and are not meant to represent any specific religious denomination, to date, all elected chaplains come from Christian traditions, though on occasion, guest chaplains from other religions are invited to give invocations.
One of the initial actions taken by the first U.S. Senate in 1789 was to select the Right Reverend Samuel Provoost, Episcopal Bishop of New York to serve as the first Senate Chaplain. The first Chaplain elected in the House of Representative was William Linn on May 1, 1789. The tradition of opening each day’s sessions with a chaplain’s prayer was established by Rev. Jacob Duche who led the first opening prayer at the Continental Congress in Philadelphia on September 7, 1774.
Congress justifies as its Constitutional right the hiring of religious chaplains by invoking Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5: “The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers.”
One of the framers of the United States Constitution, James Madison, disputed Congress’ interpretation by arguing against the appointment of chaplains to the two houses of Congress, which he did in his “Detached Memoranda,” 1817:
The Constitution of the U.S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion,” he asserted. “The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by Ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them; and these are to be paid out of the national taxes….The establishment of the chaplainship to Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles….
The Supreme Court settled the matter of the constitutional right of legislatures to hire chaplains at public expense in its Marsh v. Chambers (1983) decision. The case involved whether the Nebraska legislature had violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment by opening each session with a prayer directed by a chaplain paid for with public funds.
The Court, in a 6-3 decision, ruled that the practice does not violate the Establishment Clause using precedent as justification. This ruling, however, went against the Supreme Court’s previous Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971) decision, which set out a three-pronged test for the constitutionality of statutes by which a statute is constitutional: (1) if it has a primarily secular purpose; (2) if its principal effect neither aids nor inhibits religion; and (3) if government and religion are not excessively entangled.
Chief Justice Warren Burger writing the majority opinion in Marsh v. Chambers stated in part:
In light of the unambiguous and unbroken history of more than 200 years, there can be no doubt that the practice of opening legislative sessions with prayer has become part of the fabric of our society. To invoke Divine guidance on a public body entrusted with making the laws is not, in these circumstances, an ‘establishment’ of religion or a step toward establishment; it is simply a tolerable acknowledgment of beliefs widely held among the people of this country.
The Supreme Court, however, disregarded the issue of precedent when, in 2022, it overturned Roe v. Wade (1973) unraveling the legal right to abortion for nearly the last 50 years in its Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision. The Court left it to the states to decide whether they would legalize reproductive rights.
Since Dobbs, many state legislatures have also banned the safe and effective drugs used in medication abortions, mifepristone and misoprostol. The national drugstore chain, Walgreens, was the first to ban the drugs even in states where abortion remains legal.
Several organizations sued the government for access to reproductive care including abortion. Some of these organizations, for example, Jewish and Muslim, sued on religious grounds since their respective faith communities allow abortion. For example, from a press release of Muslim Advocates:
The Supreme Court’s radical decision to overturn Roe v. Wade represents a dangerous Christian nationalization of American law and kicks open the door to future reversals of the right to contraception,” begins the press release, “the right to marry whomever you want and even the right to teach your children a language of your choice. By upholding a law that defines life as beginning at conception, the U.S. Supreme Court has enshrined the religious doctrine of one minority religious community into law — violating the First Amendment principle of religious freedom….
Historian Amanda Tyler defines Christian nationalism as,
…a political ideology and cultural framework that seeks to merge American and Christian identities, distorting both the Christian faith and America’s constitutional democracy. Christian nationalism relies on the mythological founding of the United States as a “Christian nation,” singled out for God’s providence in order to fulfill God’s purposes on earth. Christian nationalism demands a privileged place for Christianity in public life, buttressed by the active support of government at all levels.
Anthea Butler distinguishes, more specifically, what is white Christian nationalism:
Simply put, it is the belief that America’s founding is based on Christian principles, white protestant Christianity is the operational religion of the land, and that Christianity should be the foundation of how the nation develops its laws, principles and policies.
Though I rarely offer comparisons between events transpiring before and during the ascension to power of the German Third Reich with resemblances to contemporary United States – since to do so could result in trivializing one of the most horrific episodes in human history – nonetheless, I am haunted by certain parallels that demand voicing.
I am troubled by multiple similarities between that time not so very long ago with the discourses expressed and events transpiring today. I, therefore, highlight, in particular, the parallels in Nazi portrayals and understandings of sex, sexuality, gender, and gender expression and connections with white Christian nationalism: a divisive and brutal program that was anti- feminist, anti-women’s equality, anti-women’s reproductive freedoms (anti-family planning, anti- contraception, anti-abortion), anti-lesbian, anti-gay, anti-bisexual, anti-transgender, anti-gender nonconforming, and anti-sexuality education in schools.
“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.” – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
On Homosexuality
The Nazis ruthlessly enforced and eventually extended Paragraph 175, the section of the German Penal Code dating back to 1871 with the unification of Germany:
“Unnatural vice committed by two persons of the male sex or by people with animals is to be punished by imprisonment; the verdict may also include the loss of civil rights.”
Nazi ideology rested on the assessment that homosexual (males) lowered the German birth rate; they endangered, recruited, enticed, and corrupted youth; that a possible homosexual epidemic could spread; that homosexuals are “potential oppositionists” and enemies of respectable society; and that sexual relations between people of the same sex impairs their “sense of shame” and undermines morality, which inevitably will bring about the “decline of social community.”
Even before taking power, appearing in their daily newspaper, Völkischer Beobachter 14 May 1928, the Nazi party argued:
“Anyone who thinks of homosexual love is our enemy. We reject anything which emasculates our people and makes it a plaything for our enemies, for we know that life is a fight, and it is madness to think that men will ever embrace fraternally. Natural history teaches us the opposite. Might makes right. The strong will always win over the weak. Let us see to it that we once again become the strong. But this we can achieve only in one way — the German people must once again learn how to exercise discipline. We, therefore, reject any sexual deviation, particularly between man and man, because it robs us of the last possibility of freeing our people from the slave-chains in which it is now forced to toil.”
While Nazi ideology and practice rejected lesbianism as well, they did not criminalize same sex sexuality between women, as they had in Germany’s Paragraph 175 of the Penal Code, because they believed that so-called “Aryan” lesbians could at least birth children for the “New Germany.”
On the other hand, Heinrich Himmler, Gestapo head and chief architect of the Reich’s anti-homosexual campaign, justified his actions by arguing that male homosexuals were “like women” and therefore, could not fight in any German war effort.
Subsequently, he conducted surveillance operations on an estimated 90,000 suspected homosexuals, arrested approximately 50,000, and transported somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000 to a number of concentration camps throughout the Nazi dominion. Very few survived.
Upon coming to power in 1933, under their Youth Leader, Baldur von Schirach, the Nazis took over all youth groups converting them into Hitler Youth groups. One action taken following consolidation was to eliminate all signs of “homosexual corrosion,” because it allegedly posed a threat to state control by “fostering political conspiracies.”
Nazi leaders purged all boys suspected of “homosexual tendencies.” They tried and convicted an estimated 6,000 youth under Paragraph 175 between 1933 and 1943.
Hitler also proposed eliminating all sexuality education from the German school system and encouraged parents to take on the primary responsibilities for sexuality instruction within the home.
While the Catholic Church spoke out then and today against same-sex sexuality, their own policies actually boomeranged and hit them in their own faces. Used primarily to silence any potential resistance from the Church, the Nazis conducted their so-called “Cloister Trials” in which they dissolved Catholic youth fraternities, arrested and incarcerated large numbers of priests, religious brothers, and Catholic laity in prisons and concentration camps accusing them of being “threats to the state” on fabricated charges of homosexuality. For example, prison guards at Dachau concentration camp murdered a Catholic priest, Fr. Alois Abdritzki, one of a number of fatalities from the “Cloister Trials.”
On Women
Alfred Rosenberg, one of the Nazi’s chief ideologues, directed his misogynist outrage against women: “The emancipation of women from the women’s emancipation movement is the first demand of a female generation trying to rescue nation and race, the eternally unconscious, the foundation of all civilization, from decline…. A woman should have every opportunity to realize her potential, but one thing must be made clear: Only a man must be and remain judge, soldier, and politician.”
Englebert Huber, a Nazi propagandist, dictated the “proper” place of women in the Third Reich, figuratively (and literally as well) beneath men: “In the ideology of National Socialism, there is no room for the political woman….[Our] movement places woman in her natural sphere of the family and stresses her duties as wife and mother. The political, that post-war creature, who rarely ‘cut a good figure’ in parliamentary debates, represents the denigration of women. The German uprising is a male phenomenon.”
The Nazis added Paragraph 218 of the German Penal Code to outlaw abortions and establish a national file on women who had undergone and doctors who had performed abortions.
On “Indecency”
In their increasing obsession with “purifying” the social sphere, Nazi leadership enacted the “Decree for Combating Public Indecency,” which included such provisions as working to eliminate prostitution; closing all bars and clubs that “are misused for the furtherance of public indecency” including “public houses solely or mainly frequented by persons engaging in unnatural sex acts” (a.k.a. homosexuals); closing kiosks and magazine stands in libraries and bookshops “whether because they include nude illustrations or because of their title or contents, are liable to produce erotic effects in the beholder.”
Though Pope Pius XII maintained a position of neutrality and rarely spoke out against the atrocities perpetrated by the Nazi regime, of which he was roundly criticized in some circles, The Vatican, on April 3, 1933, praised the Reich on this policy:
“The Vatican welcomes the struggle of National Germany against obscene material. The strong measures that Prussia’s Minister of the Interior Göring has ordered for the combating of obscene writings and pictures…have received serious attention in Vatican circles. It will be recalled that Pius XII, in his recent encyclicals, has repeatedly and vigorously stressed that defensive actions against obscene material are of fundamental importance for the bodily and spiritual health of family and nation, and he most warmly welcomes the type and manner…with which this struggle has been undertaken in the new Germany.”
The Patriarchal White Christian Nationalist Connecting Strand
The Nazi regime connected multiple forms of oppression when Heinrich Himmler reorganized the Reich Criminal Police Bureau to centralize operations by creating a national file on male homosexuals, transgender people, what they referred to as “wage abortionists” (women and their doctors), and to monitor the production and ban the use of contraceptives to “Aryan” women.
Within this Bureau, they established The Reich Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortion, which in the single year of 1938 alone, conducted 28,366 arrests for abortion, and 28, 882 arrests of male homosexuals.
The common thread running through Nazi ideology regarding gender, gender expression, and sexuality was an intensive campaign to control individuals’ bodies and the bodies of members of entire communities in the attempt to control their minds.
Women and LGBTQ people have been constructed as second- class and even third-class citizens not merely in Nazi Germany, but today as the current political discourse indicates. But women and LGBTQ are certainly not victims because through it all, women and LGBTQ people as individuals and as groups have resisted and challenged the inequities and have pushed back against patriarchal white Christian nationalist constraints.
I hope, though, that we as a society can learn from the tyranny of the past.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 12:35:02
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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and I might add here: we really should not be legislating morality. And yet we do by the very fact we consider it wrong to kill, steal, swindle, bribe, bear false witness, lie, covet to the point of harming another, etc. This is not a perfect world. I suppose we might be better off eating grass or at east smoking it. Lol. Not all people, nations, towns, countrysides, practice morality the same. Does forcing another to act in a certain way delay the breakdown of society? Does it eventually build it up? I have an older half sis, same mom, different dad. She's very far left. I'm in the middle of left. We can discuss all the pros and cons of any subject, but we do not go to the point of condemning either to hell. Why? Its not conducive to love. Or building each other up. I'm spiritual, she claims to be atheist. Am I going to change her views? Is she going to change mine by hating one another? No. And this is what I am seeing going on. I see it in how the govment conducts itself regards the bombing of other nations just because they do not hold the same values as they are claiming to have, or making sanctions or anything else each want to do to the other in trying to change their behaviors. Giving each other labels to justify ones own stance or beliefs aint gonna do it either.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 12:46:45
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Pamela, with regard to differences in idealogy and belief of this nature as they're expressed in the context of personal relationships, I'm just the same as you... ;)
What we're speaking of is the greater context operative here...at least that's all I've been referring to.
Thanks be to all that's holy for those more intimate, heart-connected bonds that can and DO, so often, manage to elevate their Love above all else... Would that this could roll out at the highest levels of controlling division...the energies that inspire ALL dis- inclusion...! And who's to say that's not how it will, ultimately, take place... ;)
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 13:42:21
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Ah-men, Amen, So be it. Let it be so. In the words of another King; 'can't we all just get along?!!!' being the scoundrel he was/is, he said a truth we should not ignore.
I want the same right to make my medical choices as those who want the right to choose if they should or should not get an abortion or use contraceptives without persecution or retaliation or negative marks against my social standing.
I may or may not continue with this discussion later.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 14:12:30
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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I may or may not continue beyond this comment as well.
I support your right to make your own medical choices just as emphatically as I support all other personal medical rights of choice, including birth control and contraception and all others... Would you have thought otherwise of me? If so, why?
And as beautiful as "Why can't we all get along?" is, and as likely or unlikely as it may be, for a heart connection between beings to serve as some quantum, impossible-seeming miracle catalyst that somehow explodes Upward within the chain of global control and destroys its capacity for realizing its evil designs...again, keeping big light upon how the GOP's Celebrated Agenda for enacting actual Fascism here is literally the farthest mindset from entertaining anything remotely humanitarian, or all-inclusive, or toward *gee, how can we get along?" oriented, is not putting ANYONE into any "box" other than the one they gleefully erected around themselves, and would not appreciate being removed from .............
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 15:31:31
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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you: I support your right to make your own medical choices just as emphatically as I support all other personal medical rights of choice, including birth control and contraception and all others... Would you have thought otherwise of me? If so, why?
My reply: when I post anything here on the Earthboppin forums, I consider anyone can read them so its not you specifically I m replying or making a statement to.
I sure did experience allot of hateful fascism and physical and psycological/mental harm during the C control, not just here but in life. And its still not over.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 15:40:06
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Okay, thanks -- I wondered if maybe you meant that generally, but since assumptions often go wildly astray I thought I should state that for the record...
Sorry, I'm sleep-deprived in the extreme & am sure this is fairly obvious, but: C control?
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 01:34:37
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Allota Black folk might disagree with this assessment. King Jr being against abortion. There are so many people of color in the Christian category that do not fit in with this - does being a vegan as was Hitler make all vegans a Nazi? King Jr was a Baptist minister, and an activist. Would that make him a Nazi? Many people of color are for prayer; Muslims, Hindu's, Christian's, Jews. Repubs and Dems are for prayer. Does it belong in Congress? I recall in Jr High school during history, it was announced on the PA system, no more school prayer silence for a minute.. there was a big uproar over it. I didn't care one way or the other. For me, it didn't matter. I could pray anywhere, anytime and not be noticed or create a big drama about it. Allot of different people are against abortion. Or pro life, does that make them a Nazi? There are patriarch's in all colors, does that make them a Nazi? It seems this article is wanting/needing to label all Repubs Nazi's.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 13:00:40
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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yes, totally, human beings come in all shapes and sizes and ideas about right and wrong and none of us deserve to be put in little boxes that have labels but right and wrong do exist and I think everyone knows the difference
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 13:03:50
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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You think everyone knows the difference between right and wrong, do you georg? ;-O
Okay then… ;->
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Date: June 27, 2023 at 10:08:39
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 10:16:37
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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fwiw vegan believe in non violence towards any sentient being let alone eat them!..I mean I know there are rumors folks can believe what they want but Hitler was okay with violence obviously and had a strong overtone of warrior against his own kind....
There are vegans in military who believe it's okay to kill other humans for certain reasons but many vegans will disagree with that I am one of them...I would rather be killed than to kill.
Many people do not see themselves as animals but this is a misconception and thus I feel not recognizing this having dominion it inflects harm and death on other sentient beings including humans and the environment....Thus such boomerangs as we were created with dominion as keepers of the garden...so it trickled down and caused violence in other creatures as humans.
Namely the adversary the FIRST murderer, the Father of Lies, the Father of disease began it as he did what he wanted and cared not and he rules the darkness...a viper, a snake. That is why this world is now filled with violence as the majority are overcome with the darkness of the adversary and cannot see or understand why so much death exists or why killing is wrong and is not a spirit of peace nor does is it part of a peaceable kingdom. Human are animals...mammals.
I am just saying this not to argue with you but just to share a different perspective and say I do not think Hitler was a vegan not really in the sense of what it means truly but in a sense the adversarial spirit may want to portray it which is a falsehood, an untruth many will accept to justify their own actions. Not only that he killed and harmed his other animals and waged war against them (ie. his own species the human species).
Vegans do not eat eggs, cheese, dairy of partake of animal by products. If they do they are not vegans.
Take it as you will...believe what you want as many will... it is what it is. ~Eve
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Query excerpts online:
But his primary diet included meat. In "The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler," Robert Payne mentions Hitler's fondness for Bavarian sausages. Other biographers, including Albert Speer, point out that he also ate ham, liver and game.Sep 21, 1991
Don't Put Hitler Among the Vegetarians - The New York Times
The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › 1991/09/21 › opinion › l-do... About featured snippets • Feedback People also ask What was Adolf Hitler's diet? Thomas Fuchs concurred, observing that a "typical day's consumption included eggs prepared in any number of ways, spaghetti, baked potatoes with cottage cheese, oatmeal, stewed fruits and vegetable puddings. Meat was not completely excluded. Hitler continued to eat a favourite dish, Leberklösse (liver dumplings)."
Adolf Hitler and vegetarianism - Wikipedia
Adolf Hitler and vegetarianism
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Adolf_Hitler_and_ve... In 1938 Hitler's doctors put him on a meat-free diet and his public image as a vegetarian was fostered, and from 1942, he self-identified as a vegetarian. Animal welfare in Nazi Germany · Animal rights · Margot Wölk
Myth Check: Was Hitler a Vegetarian?
Skeptical Inquirer https://skepticalinquirer.org › exclusive › myth-check-... Nov 2, 2016 — He certainly advocated a vegetarian diet and lifestyle at certain points, but he by no means maintained the diet consistently. And when trusting ...
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 11:50:09
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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I understand... just using an analogy of sorts.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 05:28:52
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Well yes, pamela, and not all Germans were Nazis, either...there are always those who'll take exception to the party line. But that didn't deter the Nazis from enacting genocide, and the trajectory of this article had nothing to do with ensuring that any objectors to religious/racial Fascism within the GOP got noted for whatever their tiny influence might be against it...
There's no point in deflecting from what, exactly, the GOP's current intentions are by voicing that there are some in their party who object... The "right" is shouting them from highest rooftops in sick self-righteous zeal, so eager to imagine they can come to legally dominate all Americans as per their own social/religious structures/values and ideals...rob them of the very freedom God gave them when this nation was founded...
You can call these terrified control-obsessed folk the GOP, you can call them grownup bullies, you can call them Bob's Your Uncle, doesn't matter...but what defines them as the Fascists they are is that their driven compulsion and intention is to disallow those who disagree with their values/beliefs from living their own lives as they see fit, *because their values and beliefs do not agree*... That is fear-based hatred that fully supports and rationalizes doing *whatever it takes* to ensure that GOP/"conservative"/Biblican values prevail within this country... I mean...many of them literally believe that if they don't "win this nation over for Jesus," even they themselves will burn in hell, though the "evil left is responsible"...lol... For sooo many, that translates to carte-blanche justification for violence...because "God calls for it"..........................
But hey, yes please! Let any who identify as GOP and disagree with this agenda speak up, and loudly... As for this forum, I predict crickets, but would so love a surprise...
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 11:35:48
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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I see the Dems doing the same things to the Repubs. Its a no win for both/all. If neither can rise above this mind boggle trap its a sad day for this country.
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 12:35:31
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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That's what you see, do you? Democrats mounting fascist campaigns to elect those who will outlaw the personal freedoms, rights, integrity and dignity of all citizens who do not agree with...what? lol
Republicans utilize either the notion that they're God- ordained-and-approved, or plain brute right-to-survival- of-the-fittest, "strongest", most gullible, most willing to sell their souls for positions of domination over all...as their gauge for who, amongst themselves, "should win the right to rule over ALL, have the right to decide the moral code for ALL"... That's their mind-boggle trap. SO many little factions of that GOP toxicity, who'll now enact a bloodbath amongst themselves to win that "right" to represent and spearhead the GOP's anti- inclusivity/anti-humanitarian war... That's their reality in a nutshell, that they're attempting to put forward onto this country.
So where's this Democratic parallel of this exact Fascist Plan I see being touted, trying to convince everyone that taking this eyes-wide-open stance brings Democrats down to the level of Republicans in their intentions? How does humanitarian inclusivity -- the commitment to honoring ALL -- intend to rob Republicans of their freedoms, rights, integrity and dignity? lol Only in the sense that they're being "robbed" of their imagined "right" to pass legislation that frees them from the onerous burden of having to see/hear of those enacting lifestyle choices they don't agree with, by making them illegal! The nerve of them, being themselves anywhere I can see or hear them!!! How are Democrats "doing these same things" to the Republicans? Do tell, please!
Yes! ALL "governments" are still controlled in many ways, some barely imaginable, by the global corporacratic plan that's been in place forever -- and, yes, there are Democrats whose personal values and beliefs allow them to participate, in hugely varying levels of context, with its tentacles in D.C.
But when you try to hold up the GOPs clearly-stated intentions, against whatever level of complicity Democrats are responsible for, within the toxic nightmare posing for an American Government that's meant to be enacting its Founders true ideals of freedom and equal rights for all its citizens...and say you see the two as being anywhere near actual comparative territory...ah, no.
And, no -- throwing light upon the fact that the fascist idealogies and values of the GOP simply have no capacity, (*by virtue of their very definitions!*) to come to any kind of genuine, authentic table of Equals toward generating greater understanding between, or "rise above" how they see human beings different from themselves, is NOT choosing to stand against Unity Consciousness and its destiny here... It is arising and will continue to in ways that will, miraculously and unbelievably, elevate everything...against all odds...and in spite of what many rightwingers imagine is this country's destiny...
And if presenting the evidential proof that the U.S. has also engaged in heinous atrocities within the global circus...that's being manipulated by those with the capacity to destroy the planet at any given moment...doesn't organically inspire and expand one's awareness outward, toward how that could possibly happen...toward who or what could enact a global design that holds all "parties and leaders" by their very shortest hairs, by unimaginable consequences...then all's I can say is, by all means, remain within your own perspective...
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Date: June 25, 2023 at 16:11:57
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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and this is the malignant indifference board so welcome aboard ... we thrive on hate and haters ... no time like the present for you to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior
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Date: June 25, 2023 at 16:47:54
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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Thank you, georg, for providing the most perfect example of the flipflop spell ya'll relentlessly project, imagining it'll stick, somewhere, somehow, someway...
Yes, you do all thrive on hate and haters! You are them! ;) Choosing to "hate" everything humanitarianly progressive -- (in other words, telling those who differ from you in orientation that they can't live as they want to because *your beliefs don't support doing so,* THAT blind violent hatred) -- is the core essence of GOP White Christian Nationalist idealogy itself, hon...
Yeshua would never support what this party is promoting as it runs directly contrary to His true teachings...which is becoming more and more evident as the new foundations of Unity Consciousness arise...
...and the kneejerk hatred & violence against *anyone Other* will fade like the nightmare it was...
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Date: June 25, 2023 at 19:06:21
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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conflicted about your identity you choose the Christian board to vilify us as your tormentors ... but we don't hate you ... we hate the sin that we do and that you do and the sin that everyone does ... but we are repentant and that's what you lack ... stiff necked and willful you refuse to repent of your sins and therefore you will die in them and your soul will be destroyed
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Date: June 25, 2023 at 19:02:47
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
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projection is your specialty ... everything you hate about yourself you project on others ... hate kills the hateful soul
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Date: June 25, 2023 at 20:21:34
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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No need for the exertion of toxic zeal there, pal, your first great example of exactly what I'm referring to was more than enough...but thanks!
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 12:57:12
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Republicans are Pro-Patriarchal White Christian Nationalism... |
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it's your choice and I thank the LORD I don't have your misery
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Date: June 26, 2023 at 13:08:13
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
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Oh but I’m not miserable, hon…much to your great dismay, I realize…but cheer up! You have an endless reservoir, it seems, of testosteresque righteous rage to hurl at me, you have new opportunities every moment! ;) And you can tell yourself every single one is landing in pay dirt, I won’t tell you differently anymore, ‘k? ;)
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Date: June 27, 2023 at 10:08:10
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
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