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Date: June 05, 2022 at 03:35:43
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: pope to retire???

URL: https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-benedict-xvi-religion-2186d6d10d27c67d5154197e50fc590e


Pope Francis fuels new speculation on future of
pontificate
By NICOLE WINFIELD
today
FILE - Pope Francis arrives on a wheelchair for an
audience with children in the San Damaso courtyard at
the Vatican, Saturday, June 4, 2022. Pope Francis added
fuel to rumors about the future of his pontificate on
Saturday by announcing he would visit the central
Italian city of L'Aquila in August for a feast
initiated by Pope Celestine V, one of the few pontiffs
who resigned before Pope Benedict XVI stepped down in
2013. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino, File)
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FILE - Pope Francis arrives on a wheelchair for an
audience with children in the San Damaso courtyard at
the Vatican, Saturday, June 4, 2022. Pope Francis added
fuel to rumors about the future of his pontificate on
Saturday by announcing he would visit the central
Italian city of L'Aquila in August for a feast
initiated by Pope Celestine V, one of the few pontiffs
who resigned before Pope Benedict XVI stepped down in
2013. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino, File)
ROME (AP) — Pope Francis added fuel to rumors about the
future of his pontificate by announcing he would visit
the central Italian city of L’Aquila in August for a
feast initiated by Pope Celestine V, one of the few
pontiffs who resigned before Pope Benedict XVI stepped
down in 2013.

Italian and Catholic media have been rife with
unsourced speculation that the 85-year-old Francis
might be planning to follow in Benedict’s footsteps,
given his increased mobility problems that have forced
him to use a wheelchair for the last month.

Those rumors gained steam last week when Francis
announced a consistory to create 21 new cardinals
scheduled for Aug. 27. Sixteen of those cardinals are
under age 80 and eligible to vote in a conclave to
elect Francis’ successor.

Once they are added to the ranks of princes of the
church, Francis will have stacked the College of
Cardinals with 83 of the 132 voting-age cardinals.
While there is no guarantee how the cardinals might
vote, the chances that they will tap a successor who
shares Francis’ pastoral priorities become ever
greater.

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In announcing the Aug. 27 consistory, Francis also
announced he would host two days of talks the following
week to brief the cardinals about his recent apostolic
constitution reforming the Vatican bureaucracy. That
document, which goes into effect Sunday, allows women
to head Vatican offices, imposes term limits on
priestly Vatican employees and positions the Holy See
as an institution at the service of local churches,
rather than vice versa.

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Francis was elected pope in 2013 on a mandate to reform
the Roman Curia. Now that the nine-year project has
been rolled out and at least partially implemented,
Francis’ main task as pope has in some ways been
accomplished.

All of which made Saturday’s otherwise routine
announcement of a pastoral visit to L’Aquila carry more
speculative weight than it might otherwise have.

Notable was the timing: The Vatican and the rest of
Italy are usually on holiday in August to mid-
September, with all but essential business closed.
Calling a major consistory in late August to create new
cardinals, gathering churchmen for two days of talks on
implementing his reform and making a symbolically
significant pastoral visit suggests Francis might have
out-of-the-ordinary business in mind.

“With today’s news that @Pontifex will go to L’Aquila
in the very middle of the August consistory, it all got
even more intriguing,” tweeted Vatican commentator
Robert Mickens, linking to an essay he had published in
La Croix International about the rumors swirling around
the future of the pontificate.

The basilica in L’Aquila hosts the tomb of Celestine V,
a hermit pope who resigned after five months in 1294,
overwhelmed by the job. In 2009, Benedict visited
L’Aquila, which had been devastated by a recent
earthquake and prayed at Celestine’s tomb, leaving his
pallium stole on it.

No one at the time appreciated the significance of the
gesture. But four years later, the 85-year-old Benedict
would follow in Celestine’s footsteps and resign,
saying he no longer had the strength of body and mind
to carry on the rigors of the papacy.

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The Vatican announced Saturday Francis would visit
L’Aquila to celebrate Mass on Aug. 28 and open the
“Holy Door” at the basilica hosting Celestine’s tomb.
The timing coincides with the L’Aquila church’s
celebration of the Feast of Forgiveness, which was
created by Celestine in a papal bull.

No pope has travelled to L’Aquila since to close out
the annual feast, which celebrates the sacrament of
forgiveness so dear to Francis, noted the current
archbishop of L’Aquila, Cardinal Giuseppe Petrocchi.

“We hope that all people, especially those harmed by
conflicts and internal divisions, might (come) and find
the path of solidarity and peace,” he said in a
statement announcing the visit.

Francis has praised Benedict’s decision to retire as
“opening the door” for future popes to do the same, and
he had originally predicted a short papacy for himself
of two to five years.

Nine years later, Francis has shown no signs he wants
to step down, and he has major projects still on the
horizon.

In addition to upcoming trips this year to Congo, South
Sudan, Canada and Kazakhstan, in 2023 he has scheduled
a major meeting of the world’s bishops to debate the
increasing decentralization of the Catholic Church, as
well as the continued implementation of his reforms.

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But Francis has been hobbled by the strained ligaments
in his right knee that have made walking painful and
difficult. He has told friends he doesn’t want to
undergo surgery, reportedly because of his reaction to
anesthesia last July when he had 33 centimeters (13
inches) of his large intestine removed.

This week, one of his closest advisers and friends,
Honduran Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, said talk
of a papal resignation or the end of Francis’
pontificate was unfounded.

“I think these are optical illusions, cerebral
illusions,” Maradiaga told Religion Digital, a Spanish-
language Catholic site.

Christopher Bellitto, a church historian at Kean
University in Union, New Jersey, noted that most
Vatican watchers expect Francis will eventually resign,
but not before Benedict dies. The 95-year-old retired
pope is physically frail but still alert and receiving
occasional visitors in his home in the Vatican gardens.

“He’s not going to have two former popes floating
around,” Bellitto said in an email. Referring to
Francis’ planned visit to L’Aquila, he suggested not
reading too much into it, noting that Benedict’s
gesture in 2009 was missed by most everyone.

“I don’t recall a lot of stories at the time saying
that Benedict’s visit in 2009 made us think he was
going to resign,” he said, suggesting that Francis’
pastoral visit to l’Aquila might be just that: a
pastoral visit.


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23875


Date: June 11, 2022 at 11:11:25
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


Among other things wrong with the popes health his knees are giving
out. He can hardly walk. Wheel chair is very much needed.


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23848


Date: June 06, 2022 at 18:14:00
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


would it matter to you? is he a good man?


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23873


Date: June 10, 2022 at 17:02:37
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


when i wrote this, i was not thinking in Biblical terms
but as to whether he thought he had good intentions, but
yes, there is none good, no, not one


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23856


Date: June 08, 2022 at 21:02:29
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???



“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good.


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23858


Date: June 09, 2022 at 07:46:33
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


So even Jesus is not truly good?


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23861


Date: June 09, 2022 at 11:50:58
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???



He was saying give the respect and honor in terms of what is really good to the source from which it comes which is God, meaning not the flesh and blood but of the spirit
of life abundant, the source.

Be humble in remembering this as all which is truly good comes from God.

When we think it's us and taking credit then that is a type of haughtiness and error when we can do better by becoming humble in remembering who we are as in the created
not the Creator or origination in terms of all that is love, all that is holy, all that which is right, all that which is life.


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23868


Date: June 10, 2022 at 10:45:02
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


I don't try to interpret what he said. It seems better
to accept his words as is.


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23896


Date: June 24, 2022 at 08:59:17
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


That is where the ‘FAITH’ comes into the picture. Also believe it’s much

deeper than the soul can understand. AGAIN, FAITH STEPS INTO THE
MIND AND SOUL. Some days one must work harder at it but the FAITH &
HOPE are always there to lean on. Even on the worst days.


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23869


Date: June 10, 2022 at 14:28:01
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


There are deeper meanings than are on the surface, truth has many
facets like a crystal and for those who are not believers or called
by him I suppose they see it in a different context.


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23888


Date: June 13, 2022 at 12:20:44
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


Hi Eve

Can you please tell me the name of the song you posted
to me on Spiritual? There was some personal info about
me and I asked Bopp to delete it. Thanks.

The Truth can't be really told in words imo. It is
greater than words can convey.


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23864


Date: June 09, 2022 at 13:00:15
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: so true.


thank you for the truth.


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23860


Date: June 09, 2022 at 11:50:18
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


Jesus had moments of doubt and pain in the Garden of
Gethsemane when he asked the LORD to take the burden
from him because Jesus was human and a blood sacrifice
was required to atone for all our sins


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23862


Date: June 09, 2022 at 12:05:19
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


We are to make atonement for our own sins...continuing to sin is not atonement nor is confession or asking for forgiveness alone atonement. We are
to bear worthy fruits of true repentance by following him as the Living Word demonstrating all things are possible with God.


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23865


Date: June 09, 2022 at 16:03:36
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


where do you find that doctriine in holy scripture?


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23867


Date: June 09, 2022 at 22:57:50
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire???


~~> No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

~~> Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.

~~> Produce fruit, then, in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for
Abraham.

~~> So produce fruit that is consistent with repentance [demonstrating new behavior that proves a change of heart, and a conscious decision to turn away from sin];

-~> Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs
from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.

~~> Jesus said to all of them, “If anyone wants to come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow me.

----**~~> Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. <--**----

~~> Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you.”

~~> So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

~~> So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be
called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.…

~~> And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,

~~> Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

~~> Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy,
drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

~~> And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

~~> From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand

~~> Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

~~> Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and every expression of evil, and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save your souls. Be doers of the word, and not hearers only.
Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves. For anyone who hears the word but does not carry it out is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror,…


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23849


Date: June 06, 2022 at 19:55:49
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: God only knows


We are made to be good. so far some prophecies are
being fulfilled. malachay???


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23857


Date: June 08, 2022 at 21:05:41
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God only knows


As Jesus started on His way, a man ran up and knelt before Him. “Good
Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do
you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.
You know the commandments.. ‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery,
do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not cheat others, honor
your father and mother.’ ”…


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Date: June 09, 2022 at 16:04:53
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God only knows


Amen


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