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Date: June 05, 2022 at 03:35:43
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: pope to retire??? |
URL: https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-benedict-xvi-religion-2186d6d10d27c67d5154197e50fc590e |
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Pope Francis fuels new speculation on future of pontificate By NICOLE WINFIELD today FILE - Pope Francis arrives on a wheelchair for an audience with children in the San Damaso courtyard at the Vatican, Saturday, June 4, 2022. Pope Francis added fuel to rumors about the future of his pontificate on Saturday by announcing he would visit the central Italian city of L'Aquila in August for a feast initiated by Pope Celestine V, one of the few pontiffs who resigned before Pope Benedict XVI stepped down in 2013. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino, File) 1 of 6 FILE - Pope Francis arrives on a wheelchair for an audience with children in the San Damaso courtyard at the Vatican, Saturday, June 4, 2022. Pope Francis added fuel to rumors about the future of his pontificate on Saturday by announcing he would visit the central Italian city of L'Aquila in August for a feast initiated by Pope Celestine V, one of the few pontiffs who resigned before Pope Benedict XVI stepped down in 2013. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino, File) ROME (AP) — Pope Francis added fuel to rumors about the future of his pontificate by announcing he would visit the central Italian city of L’Aquila in August for a feast initiated by Pope Celestine V, one of the few pontiffs who resigned before Pope Benedict XVI stepped down in 2013.
Italian and Catholic media have been rife with unsourced speculation that the 85-year-old Francis might be planning to follow in Benedict’s footsteps, given his increased mobility problems that have forced him to use a wheelchair for the last month.
Those rumors gained steam last week when Francis announced a consistory to create 21 new cardinals scheduled for Aug. 27. Sixteen of those cardinals are under age 80 and eligible to vote in a conclave to elect Francis’ successor.
Once they are added to the ranks of princes of the church, Francis will have stacked the College of Cardinals with 83 of the 132 voting-age cardinals. While there is no guarantee how the cardinals might vote, the chances that they will tap a successor who shares Francis’ pastoral priorities become ever greater.
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In announcing the Aug. 27 consistory, Francis also announced he would host two days of talks the following week to brief the cardinals about his recent apostolic constitution reforming the Vatican bureaucracy. That document, which goes into effect Sunday, allows women to head Vatican offices, imposes term limits on priestly Vatican employees and positions the Holy See as an institution at the service of local churches, rather than vice versa.
POPE FRANCIS Pope dives into Rohingya crisis upon arrival in Myanmar The Latest: Pope honors massacre victims at Baghdad church A timeline of disaster and displacement for Iraqi Christians Pope taps L.A. bishop to head Minnesota diocese Francis was elected pope in 2013 on a mandate to reform the Roman Curia. Now that the nine-year project has been rolled out and at least partially implemented, Francis’ main task as pope has in some ways been accomplished.
All of which made Saturday’s otherwise routine announcement of a pastoral visit to L’Aquila carry more speculative weight than it might otherwise have.
Notable was the timing: The Vatican and the rest of Italy are usually on holiday in August to mid- September, with all but essential business closed. Calling a major consistory in late August to create new cardinals, gathering churchmen for two days of talks on implementing his reform and making a symbolically significant pastoral visit suggests Francis might have out-of-the-ordinary business in mind.
“With today’s news that @Pontifex will go to L’Aquila in the very middle of the August consistory, it all got even more intriguing,” tweeted Vatican commentator Robert Mickens, linking to an essay he had published in La Croix International about the rumors swirling around the future of the pontificate.
The basilica in L’Aquila hosts the tomb of Celestine V, a hermit pope who resigned after five months in 1294, overwhelmed by the job. In 2009, Benedict visited L’Aquila, which had been devastated by a recent earthquake and prayed at Celestine’s tomb, leaving his pallium stole on it.
No one at the time appreciated the significance of the gesture. But four years later, the 85-year-old Benedict would follow in Celestine’s footsteps and resign, saying he no longer had the strength of body and mind to carry on the rigors of the papacy.
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The Vatican announced Saturday Francis would visit L’Aquila to celebrate Mass on Aug. 28 and open the “Holy Door” at the basilica hosting Celestine’s tomb. The timing coincides with the L’Aquila church’s celebration of the Feast of Forgiveness, which was created by Celestine in a papal bull.
No pope has travelled to L’Aquila since to close out the annual feast, which celebrates the sacrament of forgiveness so dear to Francis, noted the current archbishop of L’Aquila, Cardinal Giuseppe Petrocchi.
“We hope that all people, especially those harmed by conflicts and internal divisions, might (come) and find the path of solidarity and peace,” he said in a statement announcing the visit.
Francis has praised Benedict’s decision to retire as “opening the door” for future popes to do the same, and he had originally predicted a short papacy for himself of two to five years.
Nine years later, Francis has shown no signs he wants to step down, and he has major projects still on the horizon.
In addition to upcoming trips this year to Congo, South Sudan, Canada and Kazakhstan, in 2023 he has scheduled a major meeting of the world’s bishops to debate the increasing decentralization of the Catholic Church, as well as the continued implementation of his reforms.
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But Francis has been hobbled by the strained ligaments in his right knee that have made walking painful and difficult. He has told friends he doesn’t want to undergo surgery, reportedly because of his reaction to anesthesia last July when he had 33 centimeters (13 inches) of his large intestine removed.
This week, one of his closest advisers and friends, Honduran Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, said talk of a papal resignation or the end of Francis’ pontificate was unfounded.
“I think these are optical illusions, cerebral illusions,” Maradiaga told Religion Digital, a Spanish- language Catholic site.
Christopher Bellitto, a church historian at Kean University in Union, New Jersey, noted that most Vatican watchers expect Francis will eventually resign, but not before Benedict dies. The 95-year-old retired pope is physically frail but still alert and receiving occasional visitors in his home in the Vatican gardens.
“He’s not going to have two former popes floating around,” Bellitto said in an email. Referring to Francis’ planned visit to L’Aquila, he suggested not reading too much into it, noting that Benedict’s gesture in 2009 was missed by most everyone.
“I don’t recall a lot of stories at the time saying that Benedict’s visit in 2009 made us think he was going to resign,” he said, suggesting that Francis’ pastoral visit to l’Aquila might be just that: a pastoral visit.
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Date: June 11, 2022 at 11:11:25
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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Among other things wrong with the popes health his knees are giving out. He can hardly walk. Wheel chair is very much needed.
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Date: June 06, 2022 at 18:14:00
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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would it matter to you? is he a good man?
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Date: June 10, 2022 at 17:02:37
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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when i wrote this, i was not thinking in Biblical terms but as to whether he thought he had good intentions, but yes, there is none good, no, not one
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Date: June 08, 2022 at 21:02:29
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good.
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 07:46:33
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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So even Jesus is not truly good?
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 11:50:58
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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He was saying give the respect and honor in terms of what is really good to the source from which it comes which is God, meaning not the flesh and blood but of the spirit of life abundant, the source.
Be humble in remembering this as all which is truly good comes from God.
When we think it's us and taking credit then that is a type of haughtiness and error when we can do better by becoming humble in remembering who we are as in the created not the Creator or origination in terms of all that is love, all that is holy, all that which is right, all that which is life.
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Date: June 10, 2022 at 10:45:02
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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I don't try to interpret what he said. It seems better to accept his words as is.
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Date: June 24, 2022 at 08:59:17
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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That is where the ‘FAITH’ comes into the picture. Also believe it’s much
deeper than the soul can understand. AGAIN, FAITH STEPS INTO THE MIND AND SOUL. Some days one must work harder at it but the FAITH & HOPE are always there to lean on. Even on the worst days.
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Date: June 10, 2022 at 14:28:01
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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There are deeper meanings than are on the surface, truth has many facets like a crystal and for those who are not believers or called by him I suppose they see it in a different context.
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Date: June 13, 2022 at 12:20:44
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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Hi Eve
Can you please tell me the name of the song you posted to me on Spiritual? There was some personal info about me and I asked Bopp to delete it. Thanks.
The Truth can't be really told in words imo. It is greater than words can convey.
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 13:00:15
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: so true. |
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 11:50:18
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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Jesus had moments of doubt and pain in the Garden of Gethsemane when he asked the LORD to take the burden from him because Jesus was human and a blood sacrifice was required to atone for all our sins
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 12:05:19
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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We are to make atonement for our own sins...continuing to sin is not atonement nor is confession or asking for forgiveness alone atonement. We are to bear worthy fruits of true repentance by following him as the Living Word demonstrating all things are possible with God.
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 16:03:36
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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where do you find that doctriine in holy scripture?
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 22:57:50
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: pope to retire??? |
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~~> No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
~~> Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
~~> Produce fruit, then, in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.
~~> So produce fruit that is consistent with repentance [demonstrating new behavior that proves a change of heart, and a conscious decision to turn away from sin];
-~> Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
~~> Jesus said to all of them, “If anyone wants to come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow me.
----**~~> Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. <--**----
~~> Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you.”
~~> So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.
~~> So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.…
~~> And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,
~~> Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.
~~> Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
~~> And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
~~> From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand
~~> Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.
~~> Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and every expression of evil, and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save your souls. Be doers of the word, and not hearers only. Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves. For anyone who hears the word but does not carry it out is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror,…
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Date: June 06, 2022 at 19:55:49
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: God only knows |
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We are made to be good. so far some prophecies are being fulfilled. malachay???
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Date: June 08, 2022 at 21:05:41
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God only knows |
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As Jesus started on His way, a man ran up and knelt before Him. “Good Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments.. ‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not cheat others, honor your father and mother.’ ”…
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Date: June 09, 2022 at 16:04:53
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God only knows |
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