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Date: May 28, 2022 at 18:35:05
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "Ukraine ... never conducted a single investigation ..." |
URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Ukraine#Collaboration_in_Ukraine |
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The National Geographic reported:
A number of Ukrainians had collaborated: According to
German historian Dieter Pohl, around 100,000 joined
police units that provided key assistance to the Nazis.
Many others staffed the local bureaucracies or lent a
helping hand during mass shootings of Jews. Ukrainians,
such as the infamous Ivan the Terrible of Treblinka,
were also among the guards who manned the German Nazi
death camps.[10]
According to The Simon Wiesenthal Center (in January
2011) "Ukraine has, to the best of our knowledge, never
conducted a single investigation of a local Nazi war
criminal, let alone prosecuted a Holocaust
perpetrator."[11]
According to the Israeli Holocaust historian Yitzhak
Arad, "In January 1942 a company of Tatar volunteers
was established in Simferopol under the command of
Einsatzgruppe 11. This company participated in anti-
Jewish manhunts and murder actions in the rural
regions."[12]
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Date: May 30, 2022 at 08:02:53
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Death Toll & Execution units |
URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Ukraine#Collaboration_in_Ukraine |
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thanks for the post..
"Death toll
Until the fall of the Soviet Union, it was believed that about 900,000 Jews
were murdered as part of the Holocaust in Ukraine. This is the estimate
found in such respected works as The Destruction of the European Jews by
Raul Hilberg. In the late 1990s, access to Soviet archives increased the
estimates of the prewar population of Jews and as a result, the estimates of
the death toll have been increasing. In the 1990s, Dieter Pohl estimated 1.2
million Jews murdered, and more recent estimates have been up to 1.6
million. Some of those Jews added to the death toll attempted to find refuge
in the forest, but were killed later on by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, or by
some nationalist units of Home Army or other partisan groups during the
German retreat. According to American historian Wendy Lower, "there were
many perpetrators, albeit with different political agendas, who killed Jews
and suppressed this history".[14]
Execution units
Einsatzgruppen C & D (Einsatzkommando)
Order Police battalions
Abwehr/Brandemburg special saboteur unit Nachtigall Battalion
Freiwilligen-Stamm-Regiment 3 & 4 (Russians & Ukrainians)
Ukrainian auxiliary units[15] Schutzmannschaft as well as Ukrainische
Hilfspolizei
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Date: May 31, 2022 at 16:41:53
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Death Toll & Execution units |
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and many showed no mercy to their fellow man
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Date: May 29, 2022 at 13:31:05
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Ukraine ... never conducted a single investigation ..." |
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Since Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union until 1991,
did the Soviets conduct investigations of Ukrainian
nazi collaborators? Just curious.
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Date: May 29, 2022 at 15:35:32
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Ukraine ... never conducted a single investigation ..." |
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there is much that is not known about those post-war
days "behind the iron curtain" as was said at that time
i know from first-hand testimony from former citizen of
the Soviet Union that the people of Ukraine had a
terrible reputation for bloodshed
the Tatar invasion from the east settled there
Taras Bulba national hero of the head choppers
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Date: May 29, 2022 at 17:04:06
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Ukraine ... never conducted a single investigation ..." |
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The Soviet Union has a far worse reputation.
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Date: May 30, 2022 at 11:13:41
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Ukraine ... never conducted a single investigation ..." |
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yes, according to western media, but there are usually
two sides to any story, most of which we never hear, but
it is known that many citizens of Ukraine collaborated
with the Nazi extermination of Jews
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