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Date: October 02, 2021 at 14:17:56
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: a question for all: of faith and health |
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there are some who have 'faith' in these covid vaccines, but have never had any vaccines in their lives because of their 'faith' in God (or other deities).
there are some who have had vaccines in the past but putting their 'faith' in God (or other deities) instead of the government/pharmaceuticals, and won't get vaxxed this time.
there are some of course who have 'faith' in neither but don't trust these particular vaccines for many reasons
there again, there are those who do not have 'faith' in God or other deities, who will get vaxxed because they think this is the right thing to do to stop the pandemic.
Political parties don't play a part in this as much as some would like to blame one or the other, as these groups are a mixed bag politically.
my observation is that those who have 'faith' either in God (to take care of them and protect them), or the others who trust the govt/pharma vaccines to take care of them and protect them, are on opposite sides of the 'faith' question and both sides are believing that 'they have the faith' and the others don't. Ie: a friend who never got vaxxed in her whole life because of her religious beliefs, but now got vaxxed because this pandemic scares her and so she has switched her allegiance to govt/pharma, but still thinks her faith is in God. She now judges those who aren't vaxxed and puts them into the category 'oh ye of little faith', and judging her friends because of it, and now 'they' are the bad people.
I am missing some 'categories/groups' too that don't fit into these, and have their own reasons, but to be brief here.
I don't get it because I love all of my friends equally, just trusting that 'they' are doing the best they can with the information they have, even if it is not the same as my opinion/info. I pray for all of them, on either side, vaxxed or un-vaxxed, just hoping they will be safe and suffer no harm either way. I have posted some information that has come my way about the vax effects, but that is just sharing and letting 'go', because each person has the right to follow their own path, since we are on an earth/soul journey each lifetime and many times we just take it step by step, not knowing really what the consequences will be till we get 'there'.
Do you think 'God' has a say in who (on either side) will stay healthy or conversely, get sick? Or do you think none of us really know when it is our time, which is pre-ordained, to stay or to 'go'?
so looking for answers/or input and sending out love to all....blessings, kay
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Date: October 09, 2021 at 08:16:47
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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I agree with Shadow, Ryan and Joe Stamping Bull.
The short of it, is that we have free will. God does not
intervene into our decisions.
I see the vaccine as the three vehicles in this story.
There once was a man who lived in a two story house.
The house was near a river and unfortunately the river
began to flood.
As the river rose, warnings were given via radio, TV and
shortwave. Large jeeps drove through the area to
evacuate people. As a jeep drove by the man's house, he
was told:
"You are in danger. Your life is at stake. You must
evacuate. Get in the Jeep. Let us help you evacuate."
"No," the man replied from his doorstep. "I have faith.
I will be ok. The flood won't get me. God will take
care of me."
The water continued to rise.
Soon the man was on the second floor. A boat was going
through the area and arrived at the man's house.
Rescuers made every effort to convince the man to take
action so that his life would be saved.
"You are in danger. Your life is at stake. You will
drown in the flood."
"No worries," says the man. "I have faith. Everything
is ok. Even though the flood is rising, I will be fine.
God will take care of me."
The flood continued to rise.
The man went to the roof to avoid the rising water. A
helicopter pilot sees him on top of the roof and hovers
above the man. Using a megaphone, the pilot tries to
convince the man to grab the rope ladder which was
dangling above his head.
"You are in danger. The flood is still rising. You
will drown if you do not grab the rope ladder. Let us
help you."
"No worries." says the man. "I will be fine. Yes, the
flood is higher but I have faith. God will take care of
me."
The flood rises. The man drowns.
At the pearly gates, the man says to God: "I had faith.
You let me die."
To which God replies: "I sent you a jeep, a boat and a
helicopter. What more could I have done for you?"
https://www.michaelhartzell.com/blog/the-story-about-a-
jeep-a-boat-and-a-helicopter
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Date: October 09, 2021 at 10:04:58
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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i was thinking of that story just the other day in relation to vaccines also...
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Date: October 06, 2021 at 22:56:25
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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Actually I was born that way. When I got my first
vaccines around 5/6, went screaming and crying at top
of lungs and tore the bottom of my dress off and threw
it out the clinic 2 story building in protest. Nurse
said if I didn't shut up she'd give me another shot.
My youngest sister got her first shots and she ran a
high fever and went into convulsions. And received
permananet damage.
My children did get their first shots due to them
having to have vaccine records to enter
school(temporary , didn't want to cause waves) -but
after that I didn't take them in anymore.
My first born son was born with a defect when I took
what I was told to be a safe morning sickness pill. I
was very sick and couldn't eat and began losing
weight,but learned later it could have been prevented
had I taken vit B6. He called it child abuse and
blames me and his late father for he had to undergo
what we thought would be corrective surgery. I
recently learned how he hated me for doing this to
him. He hated me for it and told his then best friend
about it and his friend plotted to kill me when he was
around 10/11 years old, told to me recently by my son.
As much as he hated me he didn't want his friend to
follow thru with it. He also suffered with being
exposed to childhood shots.
Too many years in health field saw the eldery dying
after the flu shots while I was caring for them in my
medical work.
Let's see what else, a dream warning about which I told
on dreams board which got bumped off due to the Dream
board being too full per Bopp's telling us.
Never did get the flu shots or those other shots in
later years.
I have researched extensively what Dr Kary Mullis said
about his invention of the PCR test including those
years what he said about his PCR test and how it was
used by Fauci's team to alledgedly diagnose Aids/HIV
patients and what he knew of Fauci's business as leader
of the allergies health field. Dr Mullis was a good
scientist. And passed away in August 2019.
I also had a recent dream about Kary Mullis which was
very real contact telling me I was on the right track
and him thanking me for being on his side.
I did not vote for Trump or Biden. I am aware that a
person can die of big medical/surgery mishaps, and then
come back again and live and recover. Also some of
those who come back are still suffering with whatever
mishap was done to them and or never had a NDE and live
to suffer from medical injuries for the rest of their
lives. These stories are told in countless NDE's and
all of them , those who did recover, were either told
it was not their time to die. And or just had that
knowledge made known to them.
I believe in the science Mullis put forth.
The medical establishment still has not shown us the
virus they theorize to be so. They did not prove
anything and then began pushing for a vaccine that has
so many bad side affects. Trust the science is their
motto but they have not yet proven it to my
satisfaction nor to many, scientifically. Fauci
believes in selling his idea of medicine. So what is
killing off so many people? That has still to be
investigated. I follow the money. And that tells me
also it is wrong.
I will not condemn anyone who trully believes in
Fauci's science. But really do not care to engage in
the back and forth war which divides us.
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Date: October 09, 2021 at 08:39:53
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Mullis' record is checkered to be kind |
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Kary Mullis, whose invention of the polymerase chain
reaction technique earned him the Nobel Prize in
Chemistry in 1993, died of pneumonia on August 7,
according to MyNewsLA.com. He was 74 years old.
According to a 1998 profile in The Washington Post,
Mullis was known as a “weird” figure in science and
“flamboyant” philanderer who evangelized the use of LSD,
denied the evidence for both global warming and HIV as a
cause of AIDS, consulted for O.J. Simpson’s legal
defense, and formed a company that sold jewelry embedded
with celebrities’ DNA. The opening paragraph of his
Nobel autobiography includes a scene depicting a visit
from Mullis’s dying grandfather in “non-substantial
form.”
“He was personally and professionally one of the more
iconic personalities science has ever witnessed,” Rich
Robbins, the founder and CEO of Wareham Development, a
real estate developer for a number of biotech companies,
tells the Emeryville, California-based paper, the
E’ville Eye.
See “PCR: Past, Present, & Future”
Mullis was born in North Carolina in 1944 and earned a
chemistry degree from Georgia Tech and a PhD in
biochemistry from the University of California,
Berkeley. In the early 1980s, when Mullis was working
for the biotech company Cetus Corp in Emeryville, he
developed the DNA replication technique polymerase chain
reaction (PCR)—one of the most widely used methods in
molecular biology.
Writing in The Scientist in 2003, Mullis described his
first attempt at PCR in 1983 as “a long-shot experiment.
. . . so [at midnight] I poured myself a cold Becks into
a prechilled 500 ml beaker from the isotope freezer for
luck, and went home. I ran a gel the next afternoon
[and] stained it with ethidium. It took several months
to arrive at conditions [that] would produce a
convincing result.”
Both Science and Nature rejected the resulting
manuscript, which was ultimately published in Methods in
Enzymology in 1987.
By then, Mullis had left Cetus went on to consult for a
number of biotech firms, including what the San
Francisco Chronicle calls “harebrained business
ventures,” as well as for big names in the life
sciences, such as Abbott Labs and Eastman Kodak. In the
mid-2000s, he formed a company called Altermune with the
goal of developing a therapeutic to redeploy a person’s
existing antibodies against new pathogens.
Mullis is survived by his wife Nancy, three children,
and two grandchildren.
Kerry Grens is a senior editor and the news director of
The Scientist. Email her at kgrens@the-scientist.com.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/kary-mullis--
inventor-of-the-pcr-technique--dies-66256
Given that he claimed that his LSD use had a major role
in his work on PCR (James Watson, one of the discoverers
of DNA, notably made similar claims with respect to his
development of DNA as a concept prior to empirically
confirming it),[3] it is perhaps unsurprising that he
holds a number of bizarre views on subjects outside his
specialty, and was noted for endorsing various and
sundry conspiracy theories and pseudosciences.
Crank views
See the main article on this topic: Nobel disease
To name a few:
AIDS Denialism: Mullis hung around with noted AIDS
denialist Peter Duesberg and believed AIDS is a
conspiracy involving the government, scientists, and
environmentalists.[4]
Alien abduction: Mullis claimed he had had an encounter
with an extraterrestrial being, in which he denied the
involvement of LSD. More specifically — he reported
having close contact with a glowing green raccoon at his
cabin in the woods of northern California around
midnight one night in 1985. No, really.[1]
Aliensdidit: Mullis saw evidence of Urantia Book
scientific foreknowledge, writing "Several scientific
developments, unexpected in 1955, reported in 2005 in
Science and Nature […] were somehow described rather
precisely already in the Urantia Book
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
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Date: October 09, 2021 at 11:29:39
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mullis' record is checkered to be kind |
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Yes, I know this. And?????
>>evangelized the use of LSD?
No.
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Date: October 05, 2021 at 16:52:40
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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Trust your gut Kay with God’s guidance! There’s so many opinions
on both sides. One minute they tell you to get vaccinated or say
goodbye to your job. Which I think is wrong beyond words!
Then we have people who have gotten vaccinated w/o any side
effects. We have. Mike, my husband got his booster at the VA. No
side effects.
Toss a coin! Our days on this earth are all numbered Imo. In truth,
we all start dying the day we are born! Hope you're feeling better!
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Date: October 05, 2021 at 20:53:24
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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thanks Kat...many 'challenges' these days hon...just taking one day at a time.
going to ask charles how his sister is.she is in hosp with covid and had been vaccinated...
I am so concerned for all Kat...sigh..what a crazy world right now!
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Date: October 06, 2021 at 00:00:26
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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You got that right. I think they sent Charlie’s sister home.
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Date: October 03, 2021 at 13:13:30
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: God has a say in what happens |
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i am vaccinated but don't have any faith in the
vaccine.
just got this post from my sister in Des Moines.
saturday night
Hello! For those of you who sent prayers my way, thank
you. Little did I know how much I needed them. 12 hours
in the er, 14 hours total, At least 6 ambulances, 3
helicopters, a riot and shooting, to be told they
couldn’t do anything for me. One digit from oxidation.
I had a lab tech come get me and took off ahead of me
as I passed out. An old man in a wheelchair jumped out
to try and save me. The kid didn’t even apologize. The
man shot said he didn’t want his family allowed in. He
was black. His family all came demanding they be
allowed in. Shouting and fighting behind me outside,
hospital put on lockdown, police everywhere, some
arrests. They had to move me for fear I could get hurt.
I was fully vaccinated, so they could not give me mono
??? IV. There were no beds available, so even though I
was borderline admittance let me come home. Frankly,
glad to get out of there. Can anyone top that for a
Saturday night?
so that was from my sister today... God is good.
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Date: October 03, 2021 at 14:36:43
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God has a say in what happens |
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what charles? I have to google that, what happened in Des Moines last night? prayers for your sister and all
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Date: October 03, 2021 at 18:39:13
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God has a say in what happens |
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jeanne came down with virus saturday. the hospital so
so overwhelmed with troubles in town that she was able
to go home. she is in bed with the virus in spite of
getting vaccinated. i don't know about the riot but she
lives next to des Moines, iowa. i think she is better
off at home. sad that she got the virus in spite of
being vaccinated.
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Date: October 05, 2021 at 19:00:30
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: God has a say in what happens |
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We are all different. Our immunity’s are all different. Like I pointed
out before- toss a coin! There’s no real answer to why some who
have been vaccinated get covid-19 and some don’t. Have heard that
if you are vaccinated the virus is easier to handle at home.
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Date: October 03, 2021 at 09:24:25
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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My opinion is that all of us has numbered days here on earth. If God
brings you to it He will get you through it.
Each day here on earth is a gift to to us, what we do with it is a gift to
God. We plant seeds, we can grow weeds, or we can grow flowers.
I love growing flowers no matter what the day brings. May God
continue to Bless you Kay.
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Date: October 03, 2021 at 09:14:37
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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Ripper: I can no longer sit back and allow communist
infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist
subversion, and the international communist conspiracy
to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
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Date: October 02, 2021 at 15:57:54
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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"Do you think 'God' has a say in who (on either side)
will stay healthy or conversely, get sick? Or do you
think none of us really know when it is our time, which
is pre-ordained, to stay or to 'go'?"
My understanding/experience/intuitive sense is that The
Divine *is* literally an omniscient field of
Unconditional Infinite Love & Compassion that contains
within it unlimited understanding of each and every
incarnate soul's ideal soulgrowth path, no matter that
soul's age or level of evolution...and that nothing ever
takes place within any individual's life without it being
*ideal for serving their unique process of soulgrowth
perfectly* as well as appearing in their lives within
pharmaceutically perfect timing... And of course this
would include any-/everything to do with covid, as well
as with all arrivals and departures from incarnation, and
whether any given individual has any degree of conscious
awareness of such timings...
Obviously those few sentences are a mouthful that could
use a lot more words of elaboration to be clearer, but
that condensation's all I can manage for now... ;)
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Date: October 02, 2021 at 16:30:42
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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Date: October 02, 2021 at 15:53:59
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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Do you drive blind folded believing that "God" will
protect you from accidents? Best not to put "God" to the
test. You were given a brain to make wise decisions for
yourself and others.
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Date: October 02, 2021 at 22:17:46
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Amen(NT) |
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Date: October 02, 2021 at 16:31:01
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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Date: October 02, 2021 at 15:34:32
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a question for all: of faith and health |
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"Do you think 'God' has a say in who (on either side) will stay healthy or conversely, get sick?"
imo, very rarely if ever...it depends on your level of evolution...lower levels are totally susceptible to accidents...higher levels fall under the law of fate, and fairly impervious to "accidents"...it is all "decided" by law...which god has essentially nothing to do with, other than the fact it got the ball rolling in the initial act of creation...after that everything proceeded according to law...
some do know when it is their time...most do not...
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