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Date: December 15, 2020 at 20:41:08
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: personal question for a real christian? |
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If a born again Christian tells me he's proud to know me because I'm a jew,
should I feel objectified or flattered?
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Date: December 18, 2020 at 12:11:14
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
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oh gosh....LOL....sorry, my brain just took off in 'so many directions' but am going to stick to the question. I think he means it in a good way. Sadly, he doesn't 'get it' spiritually/etc, that all of us are connected to the source and all came from that energy. He is still in that 'separation' mode that, unfortunately, is one of the reasons some people are at war with 'the others'.
I, as you probably know by now, just know 'we are spiritual beings having a human experience'...:-) and that is a journey we each are on and it can take many paths.
oh darn, I can't stop philosophizing can I?...sorry!
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 14:48:46
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/22873.html |
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oops should have posted these directly in your starter post and not
interrupted your conversation with others ...but fwiw here are the links
to those posts, hope they help explain somewhat.
http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/22870.html
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 04:03:33
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: i don't know if i am a born again christian |
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i have been following christ since birth. not always
going to church all the time but since i was 25 i go
to the catholic church all the time, daily if
possible. so to me knowing a jew is not any different
than knowing a protestant or another religion. my
wife is buddhist and i respect that faith also. to
me, it is how you have respect for the God who created
you. that is a fact of life of all of us. now how
you feel about me liking you, that is up to you. i
don't control what folks think. chas
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 00:59:50
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
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Don't know what to tell you, Akira. I grew up in Buffalo, NY with LOTS of Jews. Went to college at University of Buffalo - where about half the student body was Jewish. Guess it stands to reason, with Buffalo being a complete melting pot of ethnicity - that I'd kind of scratch my head. Like...okay...you're Jewish. Everybody is "something or other".
I'm a born-again Christian and I'd be proud to know you no matter what you are. God created you and loved you enough to have Jesus Christ die for you. That means, no matter who you are, you're pretty darned special!
Guess I wouldn't single out Jews.
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 04:10:56
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
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Well, he said it was because we are god's "chosen" ones. So there's that.
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Date: December 17, 2020 at 07:07:23
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Well........... ;) |
URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people |
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I do not identify nor associate myself with
fundamentalist christianity, Akira, but Yeshua's true
teachings as I've understood them from within (which
bear little resemblance to biblical dogma) have always
been my inner gyro -- so whether that qualifies me as
a "real Christian" to answer your question would
dramatically pivot upon who was doing the
seeing...lol...
However: All that aside, just thought I'd throw out a
bigger-picture frame (just a quick Wiki) to show how
many there are who identify themselves as "God's
Chosen People"...as in, chosen above others, from all
the contexts of rationale they do...
Personally my truth is that we are each "chosen" by
virtue of something I'll call Original Grace, the fact
of each one's origins being that of Infinite
Love...with a nice fat period. Meaning, that dignity
of origin is not conditional upon submitting to
manmade dogmatic criteria written by power-hungry men
centuries ago. But that's an elaboration for a
different time and certainly a different board... ;)
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Date: December 17, 2020 at 12:45:25
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Well........... ;) |
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Yeah, the idea of a particular group of loosely associated people being
chosen is comical. I don't even know what jews are supposedly chosen for.
It just felt as if he was saying he liked the idea of what or who he thought I
was or represented to him, which has nothing to do with who I am. His trip,
not mine. I'm not religious at all. He's a self-professed "redneck" & he's a
client of mine, so I keep my mouth shut and stay focused and offer what I
can.
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Date: December 17, 2020 at 12:59:17
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Well........... ;) |
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We can't ever be anything to others beyond their own
projected versions of us, of who we are to their context
of perception, anyway... ;) Fortunately in some
instances with those nearest and dearest to us, the
territory of *overlap* within our respective bubbles of
reality does grace us with occasional, far truer
glimpses of each other's deeper authenticity and
essence...
...though I emphasize the words "occasional" and
"glimpses"... ;->
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Date: December 17, 2020 at 13:13:52
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: well said!(NT) |
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 14:36:37
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
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And that is pretty special!
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 14:49:45
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
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There is no respect of persons with God.
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 23:42:35
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
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True. Currently, God is not favoring any "type" of people. We're ALL God's "type" and his offer of forgiveness is for ALL of us.
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 13:44:11
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_the_Jews |
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excerpt:
The widespread conversion of the Jews to Christianity is a
future event predicted by many Christians, often as an end
time event. Some Christian groups consider the conversion
of the Jews to be imperative and pressing and make it
their mission to bring this about.
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Date: December 16, 2020 at 14:42:29
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: personal question for a real christian? |
URL: https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/relationship-between-evangelicals-and-jews-studied/ |
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fwiw more info links:
Chosen People Ministries | Ministry to the Jewish Peoplewww.chosenpeople.com › site
Chosen People Ministries exists to pray for, evangelize, disciple, and serve Jewish people everywhere and to help fellow
believers do the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_People_Ministries
https://www.chosenpeople.com/site/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
https://www.brandeis.edu/israel-center/news/newsletter-5-robins.html
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/relationship-between-evangelicals-and-jews-studied/
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