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Date: December 13, 2020 at 16:14:32
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
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Wondering. Is it time to pay attention to Rev 17:12-13 about the "10 horns, 10 kings"?
Rev 17:7
And the angel said to me, Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.
I have been wondering the past couple of days. And WORD OF CAUTION - you all know "how" it is when you "wonder" - some of what you wonder winds up being off the wall, other stuff winds up being correct, and still other stuff winds up being "some-correct" mixed with "some-off-the-wall".
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Date: December 14, 2020 at 17:43:54
From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
URL: https://www.frontiersman.com/faith/will-the-antichrist-be-a-homosexual/article_efcc99eb-ec49-5a9c-be63-908e0c0fd086.html |
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Reading the posts about Revelation 17 and who the
scarlet woman might be, and when the second coming of
Christ would happen, -- I checked on Sir Isaac
Newtonfs theory that the second coming would be in
2060, adding 1260 days (representing years) to the
start date of 800 AD when Charlemagne was crowned
king by Pope Leo III. This unified the Roman empire
(including the church), but it divided Rome from the
Constantinople empire.
However, then I read that Isaac Newton probably was
involved with same-sex. Reading further, it seems
that many British kings were same- or bi-sex,
including Edward II and Richard I (the Lionhearted).
In Daniel 11:37 the antichrist (final one?) is
described as possibly same-sex: [english monarch?]
g37) Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers,
nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he
shall magnify himself above all.h
https://www.frontiersman.com/faith/will-the-
antichrist-be-a-homosexual/article_efcc99eb-ec49-
5a9c-be63-908e0c0fd086.html
excerpts:
Is it any wonder that Revelation 13 says that this
same Antichrist will make war with the saints of the
tribulation, and overcome them? Are they not now
readying themselves to make it illegal to goffendh
them in any way, calling it hatred to preach against
their sin? Is it because they love us? The time
is ripe for such a man.
But remember that sodomy is the one sin that God left
heaven and came to earth to destroy. Could it be that
this will be the predominate sin on earth when
Christ descends from the clouds to fight against the
armies of wickedness? And will it be just a
coincidence that the Antichrist will be the very
first occupant of the lake of fire, tasting eternal
death 1,000 years before even the devil himself?
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Date: December 13, 2020 at 16:16:25
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
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So....some of us people have been discussing the "7 heads - 7 kings" of the Babylon beast in Revelation 17.
9 Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains upon which the woman sits, 10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 The beast which was, and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.
We have been having some discussions about the 7 kings. How 5 have fallen (are no longer in power), 1 - the Antichrist - IS in power, temporarily falls out of power, is replaced by a 7th king, then this same Antichrist returns as an 8th king in a non-consecutive reign or term of office.
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Date: December 13, 2020 at 16:17:32
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
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But anybody else starting to notice the 10 horns - that are 10 kings - also sitting on the same Babylon beast in Revelation 17?
12 The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. 13 These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
These are 10 kings that are ALSO part of the Babylon beast. I've always wondered how this could jive with the 7 heads that are 7 kings. Like...soooo...are there 7 kings OR 10 kings? And how could there be both?
But...these are 10 separate kings that are still PART of the same greater Babylon beast. Only....pay attention here - "they have not yet received their kingdom".
So....at first, when the Antichrist rules, at least at first, they are NOT kings. But...later they BECOME kings WITH THE BEAST, THE ANTICHRIST - but only for a short time because "these have ONE PURPOSE - and THEY GIVE THEIR POWER AND AUTHORITY TO THE BEAST."
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Date: December 13, 2020 at 16:18:17
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
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So...they are not kings AT FIRST. But they BECOME kings - only so they can give their power and authority TO THE BEAST.
Anybody else think this is interesting? It is most commonly taught that these 10 kings are the European Union - but the people holding to this don't think the United States could ever possibly be Babylon.
Hmmm....I'm waiting to see what is going to happen. And again, I DON'T KNOW WHO the Antichrist is or if these are yet the times prophesied about. But...wondering.
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Date: December 13, 2020 at 16:25:29
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
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Current events are beginning to make a path for this to happen VERY possible.
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Date: December 14, 2020 at 08:33:10
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The 7 Heads AND 10 Horns of Rev 17 - Getting interesting? |
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I think that we have entered a time of great change.
But watching a literal version of Revelations is not
one of them in my opinion.
Various Christian leaders and authors have offered
their interpretations of it.
In fact the Book of Revelations was very nearly
excluded from the collection of writings that were
later called the Christian Bible.
It was labeled too mystical, too gnostic. I believe the
true meaning was lost to what was to become mainstream
Christianity.
Sorry, I don't mean to be a wet blanket
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Date: December 14, 2020 at 08:38:37
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Forgot to leave a link |
URL: Historicist interpretations of the Book of Revelation |
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Protestant Reformers, including John Wycliffe, Martin
Luther, John Calvin, Thomas Cranmer, John Thomas, John
Knox, Roger Williams, Cotton Mather, Jonathan Edwards,
and John Wesley, as well as most Protestants of the
16th18th centuries, felt that the Early Church had
been led into the Great Apostasy by the Papacy and
identified the Pope with the Antichrist.[16][17] The
Centuriators of Magdeburg, a group of Lutheran scholars
in Magdeburg headed by Matthias Flacius, wrote the 12-
volume Magdeburg Centuries to discredit the Catholic
Church and lead other Christians to recognize the Pope
as the Antichrist. So, rather than expecting a single
Antichrist to rule the earth during a future
Tribulation period, Martin Luther, John Calvin, and
other Protestant Reformers saw the Antichrist as a
present feature in the world of their time, fulfilled
in the Papacy.[16][18] Like most Protestant theologians
of his time, Isaac Newton believed that the Papal
Office (and not any one particular Pope) was the
fulfillment of the Biblical predictions about
Antichrist, whose rule was predicted to last for 1,260
years
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Date: December 14, 2020 at 14:19:54
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Forgot to leave a link |
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I think one of the challenges of understanding Revelation is that God tends to help us understand various portions of Scripture when we NEED to understand them.
So, I would expect much of Revelation to be cryptic until the time arrives when it is needed. And indeed John rights in his epistles that "many antichrists" have gone out into the world. Thus the many parallels.
I don't know that THIS is the "the time". IF it is, we can expect more of it to become clearer.
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