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21967


Date: February 10, 2020 at 17:44:20
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2350_BC_Middle_East_Anomaly


100 megatons of energy released from what appears to be a bolide impact

so much for the "myth" part of the flood story that appears to be the same story around the globe


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21993


Date: February 23, 2020 at 09:02:23
From: Goldstar, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly


The Masoretic date for the biblical flood is 2350 BC.
The Septuagint date for the flood would be about 3074
BC. So, it depends on which version of Genesis you
read. The anomaly doesn't necessarily prove that there
was an unusual flood at that time.


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21998


Date: February 24, 2020 at 11:24:43
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the numerous bolide impacts in that area indicate a high probability (NT)


(NT)


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21984


Date: February 14, 2020 at 15:13:22
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: this timeline is replete with bolide impacts

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_environmental_history


starting with the Younger Drayas period at about twelve thousand years ago


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21982


Date: February 12, 2020 at 13:10:58
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly





Post Glacial flooding

Black Sea 7600 years ago. "a violent rush of salt water into a depressed fresh-water lake in a single catastrophe that has been the inspiration for the flood mythology" (Ryan and Pitman, 1998)

Persian Gulf Flood (24,000 to 14,000 years ago, or 12000 to 10000 years ago). "Gulf Oasis" which may have been a demographic refuge fed by the Tigris, Euphrates, Karun, and Wadi Batin rivers


The Caspian and Black Seas (around 16,000 years ago). The Sea of Azov rose so high that it overflowed into the Caspian Sea. The rise was extremely rapid and the Caspian basin could not contain all the floodwater, which
flowed from the northwest coastline of the Caspian Sea, through the Kuma-Manych Depression and Kerch Strait into the Black Sea basin. By the end of the Pleistocene this would have raised the level of the Black Sea by
some 60 to 70 metres (200 to 230 ft) 20 metres (66 ft) below its present-day level, and flooding large areas that were formerly available for settlement or hunting.

English Channel floods. Originally there was an isthmus across the Strait of Dover. During an earlier glacial maximum, the exit from the North Sea was blocked to the north by an ice dam, and the water flowing out of rivers
backed up into a vast lake with freshwater glacial melt on the bed of what is now the North Sea. A gently upfolding chalk ridge linking the Weald of Kent and Artois, perhaps some 30 metres (100 feet) higher than the
current sea level, contained the glacial lake at the Strait of Dover. At some time, probably around 425,000 years ago and again around 225,000 years later the barrier failed[10] or was overtopped, loosing a catastrophic
flood that permanently diverted the Rhine into the English Channel and replacing the "Isthmus of Dover" watershed

Doggerland was an area of land, now submerged beneath the southern North Sea, that connected Britain to mainland Europe. It was flooded by rising sea levels around 6500–6200 BC.

A recent hypothesis suggests that much of the remaining coastal land was flooded by a megatsunami around 6200 BC, caused by a submarine landslide off the coast of Norway known as the Storegga Slide. This suggests:
"that the Storegga Slide tsunami would have had a catastrophic impact on the contemporary coastal Mesolithic population.... Britain finally became separated from the continent and in cultural terms, the Mesolithic there
goes its own way.


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21968


Date: February 11, 2020 at 04:56:22
From: Stamping Bull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly


The myth part is that the rainfall resulted in the tallest mountains being covered and only 8 people survived. That didn't happen. Bible also doesn't mention bolides causing the Flood.


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21970


Date: February 11, 2020 at 18:14:15
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: this one is a particular favorite of mine

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utnapishtim


Utnapishtim


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21971


Date: February 11, 2020 at 19:03:35
From: Stamping Bull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this one is a particular favorite of mine


Great! I love the Epic of Gilgamesh. His friend Enkidu may have been a Neanderthal. That story could go back that far.


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21980


Date: February 12, 2020 at 11:14:56
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this one is a particular favorite of mine

URL: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fddf/684e08a003a14327e580de3cc09e65dab01b.pdf


the 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly is close in time to "Peleg's days" and the 2247 date of Bishop Ussher

put error bars on the dates and there seems to be more than simple coincidence at work

tectonic rifting would be a natural result of bolide strikes in the time period


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21981


Date: February 12, 2020 at 12:43:06
From: Stamping Bull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this one is a particular favorite of mine


So many theories. Sitchin's group believes the great Flood was caused 13000 years ago when Nibiru made it's closest approach to Earth. Some people think the return is happening very soon now. It is very far out hypothesis for sure.


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21983


Date: February 14, 2020 at 15:09:54
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: no matter what name is hung on them it's always bolides (NT)


(NT)


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21979


Date: February 12, 2020 at 11:09:50
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: and then tectonic science rears its ugly head

URL: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fddf/684e08a003a14327e580de3cc09e65dab01b.pdf


and the dating in this paper coincides with the era of bolide strikes in the region


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21969


Date: February 11, 2020 at 18:08:38
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth


the story of some great flood is told around the world and the Bible is usually not explicit about anything except maybe the sun dial of Ahaz

the Bible mentions is that in the days of Peleg the world was divided

what does that mean?

How come?

It don't say.


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21973


Date: February 11, 2020 at 19:10:52
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peleg


This is from wikipedia fwiw an excerpt below.....there is a tad more at the link if interested/


"And the Earth was divided"
According to Genesis 10:25 and 1 Chronicles 1:19, it was during the time of Peleg that "the earth was divided" – traditionally, this is often assumed to be just before, during, or
after the failure of Nimrod's Tower of Babel. The meaning of the earth being divided is usually taken to refer to a patriarchal division of the world, or possibly just the eastern
hemisphere, into allotted portions among the three sons of Noah for future occupation, as specifically described in the Book of Jubilees, Biblical Antiquities of Philo, Kitab al-
Magall, Flavius Josephus,[1] and numerous other antiquarian and mediaeval sources, even as late as Archbishop Ussher, in his Annals of the World.[2] One account, the
Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan, states that "In the days of Phalek (Peleg), the earth was divided a second time among the three sons of Noah; Shem, Ham and Japheth"
– it had been divided once previously among the three sons by Noah himself.[3]

Some Young Earth Creationists interpret this verse to refer to the continent of Pangaea split into modern continents.[4]


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21975


Date: February 12, 2020 at 11:00:12
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly


from Strong's H6389

Peleg = "division"
son of Eber and brother of Joktan

ôĚĆěĆâ Peleg, peh'-leg; the same as H6388; earthquake; Peleg, a son of Shem:—Peleg.

division by earthquake seems to be the gist of it


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21974


Date: February 12, 2020 at 08:48:55
From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly


from the wiki article:
Some Young Earth Creationists interpret this verse to refer to the continent of Pangaea split into modern continents.[4]
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This is also what I think happened, the land mass which was originally not divided, “split into modern continents” primarily from the forces of a massive flood. The mountains and rivers might have led to the migration and division of the 3 major races – Europeans to the north, Africans to the south, and Asians to the Far East. Remember, it was God the Creator who had divided the people who had a common language into the different races by changing the languages (and IMO, also changed superficial DNA).

The motive for the confusion of tongues at the Tower of Babel was because the people wanted to remain united witout God. (using a temple or tower where they could make up their own gods to worship). Without a common language it was impossible at that time for the people to remain united.

Then at the time of Peleg (several generations after Noah’s flood), the land was divided, where Peleg’s brother Joktan might have moved to the Far East. One obvious clue as to how the races might have sprung from a common race, is that the pyramids throughout the world are similarly built, and with leylines that seem to connect them mathematically.


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21976


Date: February 12, 2020 at 11:01:31
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: around that time there were numerous bolide impacts (NT)


(NT)


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21972


Date: February 11, 2020 at 19:05:31
From: Stamping Bull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 2350 BC Middle East Anomaly


Remember that civilizations started in river valleys. They would all flood from time to time. That is why they have stories of great floods.


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21978


Date: February 12, 2020 at 11:03:35
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: yes, but bolide impacts are extra-ordinary exceeding any river flood (NT)


(NT)


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21977


Date: February 12, 2020 at 11:03:35
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: yes, but bolide impacts are extra-ordinary exceeding any river flood (NT)


(NT)


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