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Date: October 16, 2019 at 04:26:46
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American

URL: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American


"The first thing I’ll say about Andrew Seidel’s The Founding Myth: Why
Christian Nationalism Is Un-American is that it’s sad it had to be written. To
many of us, the founding of the United States as a secular nation seems so
basic and incontrovertible a fact it’s hard to imagine that it must be argued.
And yet it increasingly has to be, as Christian nationalism—the idea that the
United States was founded as a Christian nation—continues to grow as a
real force in America.

Which is why Seidel’s new book is so important. The Founding Myth not
only accurately debunks the historical myths that underly Christian
nationalism, with an academic breakdown of the historical record that gives
the lie to so many of those myths. It goes a step further by arguing that a
close examination of Christianity and the American founding documents
show them often to be at odds with each other—that the freedom of
thought that exemplifies the US Constitution protects everybody—not just
Christians (although it protects them as well). Seidel, a constitutional and
civil rights attorney at the Freedom From Religion Foundation, presents a
compelling, well-researched, and clearly written argument for the founding
of our country as a secular nation.

The book starts with a simple examination of the religious views of the
nation’s founders, many of whom, while maybe not atheists, were decidedly
not Christian. A perfect example is George Washington. Seidel debunks the
“Prayer at Valley Forge”—the popular image of Washington on his knees in
the snow—which, it turns out, comes from yet another apocryphal tale by
Washington biographer Parson Weems (who also came up with “I cut down
the cherry tree”). The story of Washington praying at the Valley Forge winter
encampment didn’t even appear until the seventeenth edition of Weems’s
biography. From there it appeared in McGuffey Readers and numerous
paintings, but there are no true accounts of it happening. In fact,
Washington’s religious views suggest he was not a believer in Christian
revelation, confirmed by the pastor of Martha Washington’s church, which
Washington himself only sparingly attended; by all accounts he never took
communion.

Seidel also debunks a more commonly held misbelief, that Washington
added the words “so help me God” to the end of the presidential oath
(those words are not in the constitutional oath itself.) Again, detailed
historical accounts do not record him saying that. In fact, the first president
known to have used the words is the otherwise forgettable Chester A.
Arthur nearly a hundred years after Washington. Seidel’s book is full of
these historical tidbits.

But, The Founding Myth argues persuasively, those views are largely
irrelevant anyway, as the founders’ work on our national institutions reflect
their political—not religious—beliefs. He explores how the founding
historical documents themselves do not set up a Christian nation, or even a
set of laws based on Christian principles. As Seidel frames it “Christian
nationalists have never convincingly answered a basic question: How,
precisely, did the Bible influence American political thought and America’s
founding?” As he shows through detailed textual and historical analysis,
“American principles and Judeo-Christian principles are so irreconcilable
that we can fairly say: Judeo-Christianity is un-American.”

As The Founding Myth substantiates, this never happened. (The Prayer at
Valley Forge by Arnold Friberg, 1975)
The book provides a close examination of the Declaration of Independence,
followed by the Constitution and the principles enunciated in those
documents, many of which arose directly in opposition to prevalent religious
beliefs of the times. No phrase is more in opposition to the religious tenor of
the day than “We the People,” which clearly enunciates that the basis of
power is the people, not some supernatural power.

Seidel then turns to Judeo-Christian principles themselves as found in the
Bible, and goes through the most fundamental of them—including the
Golden Rule, crime and punishment, obedience to God, original sin and
redemption, faith, and biblical government—and compares them directly to
America’s founding principles. “The comparison,” he notes, “is disastrous
for Christian nationalists.”

He then piles on the argument, scrutinizing each of the Ten
Commandments, supposedly so basic a set of rules that Christian
nationalists feel they should be displayed regularly in public buildings. Seidel
shows how all but the most basic of them (e.g., prohibitions on killing, lying,
and stealing, which are not originally or exclusively Christian) are
substantially opposed to American principals, as they call for punishment for
thoughts, punishment for not only an offender but for their children,
punishment for certain forms of speech—you get the idea. Seidel lays it out
in chapter after chapter.

The Founding Myth ends with an examination of nationalist tropes such as
“In God We Trust,” “one nation under God,” and “God bless America” to
show that these were not original to our nation’s founding. Instead, they
were grafted onto the American story at various points in our history, some
as recently as the 1950s. This highlights one problem Seidel constantly has
to deal with, which is the simple fact that much of the Christian nationalism
argument is not underpinned by facts but rather by vague history and
assumptions. It is to Seidel’s great credit as a writer and researcher that he
is able nonetheless to ferret out these assumptions and put them under the
lens of historical scrutiny and reason and show them to be just that, false
assumptions and faulty logic.

As a humanist, I approached Seidel’s book with a bit of reluctance, figuring
that it would be covering ground I already knew and agreed with. But I was
pleasantly surprised. While I did agree with pretty much all of it, I was
amazed by how much new information the book brought to the table, and by
how many purported facts I assumed to be true were not.

Today those untruths are parroted more and more. “As the myths debunked
in this book are professed with more desperation, we must be prepared to
refute them factually and vocally,” Seidel concludes. “This book provides
the first half of that recipe. You are responsible for the rest.”"


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21847


Date: October 16, 2019 at 23:38:22
From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American


You Libs/Commies are all America hating, freedom hating
drones, what your type thinks on the subject is
irrelevant at best.


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21851


Date: October 27, 2019 at 11:21:24
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Logan, "irrelevant" describes your fake new perfectly, and


you support Putin and the "commies" perfectly,
They love what you post.


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21859


Date: November 09, 2019 at 22:41:12
From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: But they LOVE you!(NT)


(NT)


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21846


Date: October 16, 2019 at 15:56:47
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American





America was founded on Freemasonry, a cult that goes way way
back though history before it took on the name of Freemasons.


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