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From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: good question
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From: JFF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: good question
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Whomever made the cute meme was sorta....not a deep thinker, to say the least, LOL. Uh, the names are translated from the original language they were written in. To the meme maker, don't worry! they sounded quite Middle'eastern and exotic as originally written. ;) |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: good question
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The meme was basically vibrating in the dark shallows. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: seriously?
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The names of the authors of the Gospels have been adapted into English from the Greek of the New Testament.1 However, Hebrew and/or Aramaic were likely the mother tongue(s) of three of the evangelists (Matthew, Mark, and John), and their names reflect this background. Luke's name is Greek. Matthew English form of Ματθαιος (Matthaios), which was a Greek form of the Hebrew name מַתִּתְיָהוּ (Mattityahu) meaning "gift of YAHWEH", from the roots מַתָּן (mattan) meaning "gift" and יָה (yah) referring to the Hebrew God. Matthew, also called Levi, was one of the twelve apostles. John English form of Iohannes, the Latin form of the Greek name Ιωαννης (Ioannes), itself derived from the Hebrew name יוֹחָנָן (Yochanan) meaning "YAHWEH is gracious", from the roots יוֹ (yo) referring to the Hebrew God and חָנַן (chanan) meaning "to be gracious" Mark (a.k.a. John Mark) The full Greek names is Ἰοαν(ν)ες Μαρκος (Ioan(n)es Markos). This has two components. Markos is a Greek name (cf. Latin Marcus), one of the most common in both Greek and Latin speaking communities in the Hellenistic period.3 Luke Luke's is a normal Greek name – Λουκας (Loukás) – by which he likely addressed. Luke was a Gentile whose command of Hebrew and/or Aramaic is unknown, but in any case we are not given a Semitic name. |
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From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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Eve, I thought you didn't believe in the Bible, only what god tells you personally. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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https://www.instazu.com/tag/letmehit I never said that and there is a lack of depth of understanding in your remark and a lack of acknowledgment of what I shared concerning HISTORY and names regarding what you thought was a "good question" ....I believe in the truth and there is truth written in many forms which comes from the One Source of All Truth. There is a truth written in nature by the Creator of Life and a truth that is spoken by the Creator of Life which few read or have been taught to understand obviously because the natural is perishing via the inhabitants actions and lack of knowledge. But I don't expect you to understand that, it's more complex than someone asking a "good question" which was not a good question at all lacking in even a small attempt at understanding the dynamics of old texts and etymology. Scripted and true: John (Yochanan): Yeshua (Jesus) said: SEARCH the SCRIPTURES; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (the bible(s) did not exist as we know it today at his time but many scripted words did exist, he said search them and to SIFT for the truth). SIFT: examine (something) thoroughly so as to isolate that which is most important or useful. Job: But if they do not listen, they perish by the sword and die without knowledge. Hosea: He dies for lack of discipline, and because of his great folly he is led astray. Proverbs: The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for lack of sense. Hosea: My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being a priest to me. And since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Posted prior in this thread but unlikely to help given the source of the "?" you proposed from what I guess you may consider instagram collection of meme wisdoms? = https://www.instazu.com/tag/letmehit http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/21791.html Date: September 15, 2019 at 12:53:35 From: Eve Subject: Re: seriously? URL: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+10&version=KJV p.s. Matthew (Mattiyahu) and John (Youchanan) were the only ones recorded of whom were of the twelve apostles whom Yeshua called while on his sojourn in the flesh. Luke and Mark were followers of Paul. Luke is also is attributed to haven written the book of Acts. …These are the names of the twelve apostles: first Simon, called Peter, and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Zealot, and Judas Iscariot, the one who betrayed Jesus.… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jesus (IPA: /ˈdʒiːzəs/) is a masculine given name derived from the name Iēsous (Greek: Ἰησοῦς), the Greek form of the Hebrew name Yeshua (Hebrew: ישוע). As its roots lie in the name Yeshua, it is etymologically related to another biblical name, Joshua. |
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From: ShakyD, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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Eve, I agree with what you said about the names. Where is it written that Jesus said to "SIFT" scripture? 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Peter 1:20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things. |
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From: stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
| What you have to understand is that neither Timothy nor Peter was considered scripture at the time it was written. Only the Old Testament was considered divinely inspired scripture. The present New Testament was not officially approved by a Church council until 393CE. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/21797.html
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What you have to understand is that I already understood that and said so in this thread BEFORE your post...doh? |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously? .....p.s.
URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-canonical_books_referenced_in_the_Bible
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Even the OT script in it's current compilation is debatable as to when it came into being as it is now having only certain texts included and others referred to in those texts either left out or lost....as in became segregated in a manner of speaking....Scripts not in book form then but kept in huge scrolls many of them kept at the temple... It is obvious certain scrolls went missing as there are a number of references to them in the current OT that say and you can read it in _________ (fill in blank, the list is at link above). Since the reference in the book called the OT says you can read it in so and so...why not read it as that would be part of the history. Also it seems obvious by reading the the writings in the NT that certain other scripting (scrolls) had been read by or were known/taught to some of the followers of Christ like the book of Enoch. I read all the writings referred to in the OT available back in 2002, all the dead sea scrolls fragments, and the early organized churchy writings and so on. I read theClementine Homilies, basically everything I could find I searched it out and read it...Some did not speak to me though like the books of Maccabees which I just skimmed and the Keys of Enoch. I found many at the time on a Methodist seminary web site and some on an Apologetics web site, and other web sites concerning history and so on. Jesus and the Beloved Apostle (John 21:25) …This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who has written them down. And we know that his testimony is true. There are many more things that Jesus did. If all of them were written down, I suppose that not even the world itself would have space for the books that would be written. There is a book called the Archko Volume also which I was led to in spirit to search for when I had a thought the Pharisees were a lot like police or CIA of the time.... Being they followed Christ about they probably were making a record in script about him and that's when I found the Acrhko Volume. There is a description of my Lord in it and I found this book after the vision I had of him when I had warfare in spirit after my visitation and I began to combat the warfare by praising God in song-music and dance as the adversary hates it when anyone worships in spirit and truth....When I was doing so and dancing with my timbrel to shake off the adversary's attack with worship I saw my Lord in a flash... (which reminded me of the heavenly glory that Stephen got a glimpse of...It was so fast but so much more real than this world)... sitting on his throne and everything was ivory and gold and he was wearing the same and he was on the edge of his throne which was surrounded by golden illuminated living spiritual pillars, he emanated pure joy for to see me worshipping the way to do battle in the spirit and he was smiling at me as he saw me worshipping and I was reminded of this that is written that my Lord said: “I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.” ...it was then I noticed his eyebrows are very strong and large, not weeny brows like so many artists portray. I thought Lord you have really large eyebrows ...:0)~ .....It was some months later after this experience when I read in the Archko Volume a description of him and it read he had large eyebrows. :0) ~~~🕊~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~🕊~~~ "Jesus said, 'I took my stand in the midst of the world and in the flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk , and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came inot the world empty and they also seek to depart from te world empty. But now they are drunk. When they shake off thier wine, they will repent." -Gospel of Thomas ~~~🕊~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~🕊~~~ OF THE MAKING OF EVE: GOD said, 'Let us make a helper for Adam.' And He threw upon Adam a sleep and stupor, and took one of his ribs from his left side, and put flesh in its place, and of it He formed Eve. He did not make her of earth, that she might not be considered something alien to him in nature; and He did not take her from Adam's fore-parts, that she might not uplift herself against him; nor from his hind-parts, that she might not be accounted despicable; nor from his right side, that she might not have pre-eminence over him; nor from his head, that she might not seek authority over him; nor from his feet, that she might not be trodden down and scorned in the eyes of her husband: but (He took her) from his left side1, for the side is the place which unites and joins both front and back.--Concerning the sleep which God cast upon Adam, He made him to be half asleep and half awake, that he might not feel pain when the rib was taken from him, and look upon the woman as a hateful thing; and yet not without pain, that he might not think that she was not meet for him in matters of nature. When Adam came to himself, he prophesied and said, 'This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; this shall be called woman: and they were both clothed in light, and saw not each other's nakedness. - Book of the Bee ..............................................................................................~~~ ~~ 🕊~~ ~~~............................................................................................ |
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21809
From: stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
| I hadn't read your posts. Your reaction was so typically Christian. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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Your reaction was a stereotypical of a stomping bull type of judgement which does not rise above. I just posted a p.s. to my initial response and if you still think to stereotype me you are WRONG so that is your error. Plus, I don't really know if you did did not read my post about how I knew before you commented...I just assumed you did not which was my bad I see now after reading your response. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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p.s. I am not part of any organized congregation of this world either and that makes me not typical being I obey my Lord's commandments also and more so than the Pharisees as he said: For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. But maybe you are just a critic and I been criticized before and I am sure it will happen again. |
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From: stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: seriously
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The Creator is an endless mystery and our journeys never ends. Many people indulge in endless folly but it is hopefully merely an episode in their unfolding. The universe would be a dull place if we reached an end point. That is why there is always more. All life is an experiment. Trust yourself. Even if you fail at some endeavor, you have still gained valuable experience. If humans fail in this current experiment by destroying themselves, we will still be given other opportunities. I wish you well in your search and growth. A wise sage said that even wishing to know God is great luck. There is no ultimate enlightenment or salvation, there are just more adventures. Yes, I can be gruff but being nice isn't going to save the human race from extinction. We face dire perils. Even truthfulness is being undermined. Being aware is more important than ever. We are approaching a point of no return and the consequences will be severe but just. |
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From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously
| I think you're one of the wisest ones on this site. Thank you for your posts. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously
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Disagree with your analysis of experiment but thanks for the well wishes, same to you. Truly, ~Eve |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
| and when it was it was highly edited and censored... |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/cbibrel/messages/21797.html
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Well yeah. |
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21796
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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My Lord never said to worship scripts of text but to search them and to search to me also means to sift. If it means something else to you and your personal relationship in the spirit then it does. search verb \ ˈsərch \ searched; searching; searches Definition of search (Entry 1 of 2) transitive verb 1: to look into or over carefully or thoroughly in an effort to find or discover something: such as a: to examine in seeking something b: to look through or explore by inspecting possible places of concealment or investigating suspicious circumstances c: to read thoroughly : CHECK d: to examine for articles concealed on the person e: to look at as if to discover or penetrate intention or nature 2: to uncover, find, or come to know by inquiry or scrutiny —usually used with out intransitive verb 1: to look or inquire carefully 2: to make painstaking investigation or examination |
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From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
| Keep doing as you're told. |
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21797
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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p.s -btw you are quoting "letters" of Paul who never followed Jesus when he was in the flesh. He was writing letters to certain persons or groups of persons. Jesus himself never said that and at the time Paul would have been referring to the old scripts and his LETTER was not part of anything currently called the bible. I think he might have been shocked to find out his letters ended up in such a thing called the bible...maybe not but he was penning letters not scriptures per se ...not saying there is not truth in them or he is not quoiting some of the things he learned from following Peter and the other apostles or in the older scripts and so on. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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Shaky p.s.s. my apologies as I should have said the first verse you quoted from 2 Timothy was from a letter Paul wrote to him. The second you quoted was from Peter which I find more in line with what my Lord would have taught. Even so with the first verse from Paul in his letter to Timothy it is true in a different context as I see it like this which was written by Paul to the Romans: And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. God can take was meant for harm can use it for good. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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Truth is s a dead letter unless it is lived. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
URL: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+10&version=KJV
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p.s. Matthew (Mattiyahu) and John (Youchanan) were the only ones recorded of whom were of the twelve apostles whom Yeshua called while on his sojourn in the flesh. Luke and Mark were followers of Paul. Luke is also is attributed to haven written the book of Acts. …These are the names of the twelve apostles: first Simon, called Peter, and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Zealot, and Judas Iscariot, the one who betrayed Jesus.… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jesus (IPA: /ˈdʒiːzəs/) is a masculine given name derived from the name Iēsous (Greek: Ἰησοῦς), the Greek form of the Hebrew name Yeshua (Hebrew: ישוע). As its roots lie in the name Yeshua, it is etymologically related to another biblical name, Joshua. |
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From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
| Can you sense my malignant indifference? |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: seriously?
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What of it? |
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