Date: August 16, 2019 at 18:11:43 From: Johnl, [DNS_Address] Subject: do angels have gender?
do angels have gender?
a lot of Christians think that angels have no gender, but I disagree. There's a verse in the bible that seems to indicate to many Christians that angels have no gender but it only refers to angels not being married (like humans on earth), not that they don't have any gender.
There can be something much better than human marriage. I have a theory that it was mainly evil sex and evil music that led to the massive rebellion of angels in heaven, resulting in a third of them falling from heaven. Many of the human-angel hybrids (“giants”) might have come from union between fallen angels and human women before the worldwide flood in Noah’s time. L.A. Marzulli among other bible researchers have written books (“Nephilim trilogy”) and been in video interviews about how the giants came from the union of fallen angels and human women. Jesus predicted that there would be a time “as in the times of Noah.”
Daniel chapter 2 mentions (interpretation) how fallen angel seed and human women seed were not compatible. There was a movie “Demon Seed” starring Julie Christie that hints at fallen angel-human woman hybrids. It used an AI machine that seemed to become much more intelligent than the scientists who programmed it.
Date: August 22, 2019 at 18:55:16 From: Johnl, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Pardon....
Somebody in National posted that “angels have no gender.” So I posted about why there might be female angels in eternal heaven, but they were hidden to avoid the lusts of men on earth. One of the main reasons for the rebellion of the fallen angels in heaven might have been evil sex, which also happened later in man’s history (Genesis 6, interpretation), as explained by L.A. Marzulli in a video about the hybrid nephilim giants (fallen angels with human women).
There are many reasons why the possibility of female angels is very important for life on earth. One of them is that God the creator considers physical same-sex an abomination, in both the OT and NT. Imagining and presuming that angels have no gender might be used as an excuse for h- or bi-sexuality.
Leviticus 18:22 22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 20:13 13) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:…. Roman chapter 1 - 27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. … 32) Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. ---------------------------
In the christian era of “grace” there is no “stoning.” But Jesus warned of a much worse fate. John 5:28, 29: 28) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29) And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (IMO, d- means to completely perish, the second death)
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Date: August 18, 2019 at 17:31:06 From: Johnl, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: do angels have gender?
once again part of my post was cut off, and then when I went out of and then back into the post, the missing part was no longer missing.
The misssing part is in bold, no longer missing on my computer) There can be something much better than human marriage. I have a theory that it was mainly evil sex and evil music that led to the massive rebellion of angels in heaven, resulting in a third of them falling from heaven. Many of the human-angel hybrids (“giants”) might have come from union between fallen angels and human women before the worldwide flood in Noah’s time. L.A. Marzulli among other bible researchers have written books (“Nephilim trilogy”) and been in video interviews about how the giants came from the union of fallen angels and human women. Jesus predicted that there would be a time “as in the times of Noah.” ----------------------------
What Epstein did on his island was probably much worse than “Dirty Dancing.” I didn’t want to post this, but it goes along with the idea of the possible sexual rebellion of the fallen angels in heaven, and somethng similar happening in the world:
Maxwell, Epstein, Ghislaine – forerunners of mystery Babylon? http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/42366.html La Danse Mossad: Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
This links to Akira’s long post about the “swamp” that R.Maxwell and J.Epstein were in, with a link to the Counterpunch article. This is an interesting phrase in the article: “…resort would later become a recruiting center for employer Epstein’s underage “massage therapists”
This reminds me of the description of the babylon whore full of abominations, and is one of the reasons I’ve thought that Israel might be mystery babylon.
And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2) With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4) And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5) And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. -------------------------
This article (posted by Akira) mentions how R.Maxwell used his publishing connections to help the Mossad reach the whole world with tentacles:
“Later it was revealed Maxwell Sr was a Mossad asset who used his vast network of connections and publishing platforms to run editorial interference …. to influence enemies and friends alike, ensuring their [obedience] to the foreign government [Israel] that had enlisted him for its espionage work. His tabloid empire was the …-colored propaganda organ of the interests he served, overseeing its rapid growth and tentacled reach across the globe [the article goes on to mention the underaged massage therapists] ----------------------------
For all that, God the creator apparently will save a remnant of Israel, as mentioned in Romans 9 to 11. An example of possible blessing upon a remnant of Israel is the musical child prodigy, Alma Deutscher, who has written an opera at the age of 10 (Cinderella), written a violin and piano concerto at the age of 12, and has played her own compositions in prestigious musical auditoriums like Carnegie Hall (will be there Dec. 2019) and Vienna (such as with the Vienna Chamber orchestra) where Mozart’s music was played. Her opera Cinderella was played with a large orchestra in San Jose, CA. in 2017 when she was 12. IMO, Alma’s music is as good as Mozart’s.
LA Marzulli described his trip to the UCLA Museum where he was shown remains of Native Americans, and a cache of private records from the Ralph Glidden expeditions on Catalina Island done back in the 1920s and 30s. In one photo of a six-figured skeleton, the person is estimated to be over 9-ft. tall, while analysis of a second skeleton photo indicates the subject was 8.5 to 9 ft. in height, he reported.
Date: August 20, 2019 at 01:41:32 From: Johnl, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: LA Marzulli Discovers Nephilim Giants on the Island of Catalina
kay so or’s video has ideas that go along with Genesis 6 (interpretation) that some of the fallen angels inter-mixed with human women, resulting in the nephilim. Both science and the christian church have tried to avoid this interpretation, but L.A. Marzulli makes a strong case for hybrid nephilim giants. The nephilim intermixing might have been the main reason God the creator destroyed the world with a worldwide flood. Somehow many of the nephilim tribes survived after the flood (including in No. and So. America). The biblical account of Joshua defeating nephilim tribes in Canaan, (Israel) is described in the biblical book of Joshua.
after the 28:30 mark of the c2c audio with L.A. Marzulli (interviewed by George Noory), -- Marzulli said that apparently there was difficulty with the “giants” (9 ft to 12 ft) breeding with human women, or they could not “inbreed” with the human population at all (as suggested in Daniel 2). This might have led to their extinction, along with their being attacked by human tribes. Some might still be hyperdimensional such as Sasquatch. Marzulli might have mentioned “skinwalker ranch” in which a lot of UFO and Sasquatch type events seemed to have taken place.
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Date: August 19, 2019 at 07:26:05 From:chaskuchar@st-charles, [DNS_Address] Subject: thank you. nt
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Date: August 18, 2019 at 10:58:23 From: Dan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: do angels have gender?
I didn't know Dirty Dancing was around that far back
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Date: August 16, 2019 at 20:49:13 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: do angels have gender?
When they did what they did as outside of the will of God they broke Covenant with God and became spiritual whores...yes males can be whores also...it's the broken union...(till death do us part). Spiritual whoredom (this world).
Date: August 17, 2019 at 02:33:18 From: Johnl, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: do angels have gender?
Eve, I saw your response in the National board. I tend to agree with what you said: “The whole world revolves around gender and so that is why the adversary in spirit would seek to have it be otherwise in this world.” I don’t understand the seraphims in the ark of the covenant. I hardly understand anything about Israel’s tabernacle in the wilderness with the ark of the covenant, except that when Aaron the high priest’s 2 sons used strange fire on the altar, God struck dead the 2 sons, -- because they committed a kind of “spiritual whoredom.”
In checking out the internet, ideas related to the seraphims, I came across the probably erroneous idea of Michael Heiser, who tried to relate a seraphim with a serpent. That could be “spiritual whoredom” in trying to relate a holy angel with a fallen serpent angel. That’s another thing that might have happened to the fallen angels. After their being cast out of highest heaven, their DNA was changed to serpent-lizard appearance. This might be why they found human women attractive. The fallen angels probably could transform temporarily into angels of light (light trickery?)
I do agree that “the adversary in spirit would seek” to deceive people into thinking same-sex, when there is definitely both male and female. Romans chapter 1 is very emphatic about that. Christians who think same-sex angels -- might be caught off-guard if they find out that angels are male and female in eternal heaven.
Date: August 26, 2019 at 15:20:18 From: mysticwanderer, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: do angels have gender?
zech 5:9
New International Version Then I looked up--and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.
Hebrews 13:2 Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.
they can look like people. angels interchangeable with messengers
gen 19:1
New Living Translation That evening the two angels came to the entrance of the city of Sodom. Lot was sitting there, and when he saw them, he stood up to meet them. Then he welcomed them and bowed with his face to the ground.
4Before they had gone to bed, all the men of the city of Sodom, both young and old, surrounded the house. 5They called out to Lot, saying, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Send them out to us so we can have relations with them!”
https://www.whyangels.com/seraphim_cherubim_creatures. html
book of enoch
“After a time, my son Mathusala took a wife for his son Lamech. She became pregnant by him, and brought forth a child, the flesh of which was as white as snow, and red as a rose; the hair of whose head was white like wool, and long; and whose eyes were beautiful. When he opened them, he illuminated all the house, like the sun; the whole house abounded with light. And when he was taken from the hand of the midwife, opening also his mouth, he spoke to the Lord of righteousness. Then Lamech his father was afraid of him; and flying away came to his own father Mathusala, and said, I have begotten a son, unlike to other children. He is not human; but, resembling the offspring of the angels of heaven, is of a different nature from ours, being altogether unlike to us.” – Book of Enoch 105:1-3
Date: August 26, 2019 at 17:28:18 From: Johnl, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: do angels have gender?
zech 5:9 New International Version Then I looked up--and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth. hi mystic, That Zechariah 5 verse seems to indicate a definite possibility of female angels. I’m guessing that the reason God the creator has hidden female angels is because he doesn’t want men on earth to lust after them. Consider the second commandment about not making graven images of anything in heaven; the main reason might be to hide the beauty of female angels. (Exodus 20:4-6)
4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, … 5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. ---------------- “graven images” might mean to lustfully worship after the images. I suspect the book of Enoch might have been embellished. h- and bisexual offsprings might be related to “visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children….” IMO, there can be healing and forgiveness, but it involves repentance.