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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1383036/FULLTEXT01.pdf
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Many here have related their dreams of Earth changes/weather thru the years and some have posted the replies related to Norse mythology. Matteo and Thoth. & RIG, a big fan of this to be sure. :) Off the top of my head I know there were two of us dreaming of snow/weather/fur coats and the like; Marja, and myself-I'm sure there were others. But of mine and some of Marja's it became a repeating theme. So I thought to post this for those interested in the actual runes found and deciphered. pdf file and full text and what they've come up with fairly recent. http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2%3A1383036&dswid=1616 Uppsala University Publications The Rök Runestone and the End of the World Holmberg, Per Göteborgs universitet. Gräslund, Bo Uppsala University, Disciplinary Domain of Humanities and Social Sciences, Faculty of Arts, Department of Archaeology and Ancient History, Archaeology. Sundqvist, Olof Stockholms universitet. ORCID iD: 0000-0002-4304-9782 Williams, Henrik Uppsala University, Disciplinary Domain of Humanities and Social Sciences, Faculty of Languages, Department of Scandinavian Languages. ORCID iD: 0000-0003-1738-7072 2020 (English) In: Futhark: International Journal of Runic Studies, ISSN 1892-0950, E-ISSN 2003-296X, Vol. 9-10, p. 7-38 Article in journal (Refereed) Published Abstract [en] The Rök runestone from central middle Sweden, dated to around 800 CE, is famous, among other things, for a supposed reference to the emperor Theodoric the Great. This study proposes instead that the inscription deals with an anxiety triggered by a son’s death and the fear of a new climate crisis similar to the catastrophic one after 536 CE. Combining perspectives and findings from semiotics, philology, archaeology, and history of religion, the study presents a completely new interpretation which follows a unified theme, showing how the monument can be understood in the socio-cultural and religious context of early Viking Age Scandinavia. The inscription consists, according to the proposed interpretation, of nine enigmatic questions. Five of the questions concern the sun, and four of them, it is argued, ask about issues related to the god Odin. A central finding is that there are relevant parallels to the inscription in early Scandinavian poetry, especially in the Eddic poem Vafţrúđnismál. Place, publisher, year, edition, pages 2020. Vol. 9-10, p. 7-38 Keywords [en] Rök, runestones, Viking Age, riddles, Eddic poetry, skaldic poetry, climate crisis |
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From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
| interesting they have the new series on Netflix too, which we just watched, named Ragnarok |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Chilling 1200-year-old Viking Stone warns of future Little Ice Ages January 18, 2020 Cap Allon A secret code unsolved for 1200 years has finally been cracked — the mysterious inscription on famed Viking relic the Rök stone (or Rökstenen) reveals the warrior nation feared the return of the deadly ‘Late Antique Little Ice Age’ which wiped out more than HALF of Scandinavia — the stone speaks of an enduring battle against extreme cold weather in the sixth century. According to a study led by Per Holmberg, a professor of Swedish language at the University of Gothenburg, the text is telling a tale of light and darkness, warmth and cold, and it expresses a deep fear of a coming climate disaster. “The main theme is apparently the Sun, or the rhythm of light”, Holmberg explained. Of the nine riddles contained on the stone, five of them have the answer “the Sun.” Experts have long been stumped by the writing on the 8.5ft tall stone, with most theories claiming it is a dedication to the legendary Ostrogoth king, Theodore the Great but now it is thought it alludes to fears of a repeat of the deadly Late Antique Little Ice Age. According to new archaeological research, roughly 300 years before Rökstenen was erected, the world was struck by a climate catastrophe which saw global average temperatures plunge significantly. Scandinavia was one of the regions worst impacted by this shift, with crop failure, starvation, and mass death ripping through Northern Europe–more than 50% of the population was lost, along with many species. Furthermore, a string of violent volcanic eruptions darkened the skies with ash at this time, adding to the cooling, and further amplifying the crop failure, famine, and wars. “Before the Rök stone was erected, several ominous events occurred,” explained Bo Gräslund, a professor of archeology at Uppsala University. “A strong solar storm painted the sky in dramatic red colors, the harvests were hit by an extremely cold summer, and later a solar eclipse occurred just after the sunrise. It could have been enough of one of these events to trigger concerns about a new Fimbulwinter.” This diagram of the runestone shows the individual elements of the encrypted text.(see article with diagrams/pics) Why the runes were so deeply encrypted is anyone’s guess. Perhaps whoever had the Rökstenen engraved didn’t want just anyone to read it. It was a message of terror, after all. It was a reminder of a cataclysmic past. It was a warning of the terrible power of the Sun. Per Holmberg and his team claim to have uncovered an ominous prophecy. The stone speaks of a “battle enduring for centuries,” but not a fight with man, but one with nature. For a full read of the researchers’ recently published study, click here. (( I just posted the study with the pdf at top of thread)) We at Electroverse are also forewarning of the terrible power of the Sun, and that these prophesied cold times are returning in earnest, in line with the historically low solar activity currently being experienced. Even NASA agrees, in part at least, with their recent forecast revealing this next solar cycle (25) will be “the weakest of the past 200 years,” with the agency correlating previous solar shutdowns to prolonged periods of global cooling here. more at link |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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I had this dream back on Sept. 11, 2017. I was told in the dream to "take your lesson from this horse" and then I heard "Dalecarlian". To this day I still do not understand the meaning of it. Date: September 11, 2017 at 04:47:28 From: sher Subject: Dalecarlian horse Take your lesson from this horse...in a dream last night I was shown red horses and the bay horses and they were coming out of the west, running towards me... when they were about a half a mile away I could direct them with my thoughts and my right hand and sent them to the north?...then I was in a bright realm? and was with two women and two toddler children a boy and a girl, they were all wearing white...everything was in white..one woman was sitting behind a table and she was teaching the children something?...she was correcting their papers...a woman was sitting next to me and she was a "motherly" type...the little girl came and sat in my lap to show me her work and to wait for the woman to get finished correcting the little boys learning...I felt SO MUCH love for those two children...I told the little girl she was doing very good, they both were and I kissed the top of her head...she hopped down all smiles and went to wait for her brother to get finished...the woman to my right then said, you must love with that kind of love...like a child in all its innocence..then I woke...wow! |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/74470.html
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Hi Sher- so you still don't know what it means even after all these posts/dreams/visions? I made this thread back in Jan 2020 http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/74470.h tml "Date: January 28, 2020 at 02:31:13 From: pamela Subject: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges URL: http://uu.diva- portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1383036/FULLTEXT01.pdf Many here have related their dreams of Earth changes/weather thru the years and some have posted the replies related to Norse mythology. Matteo and Thoth. & RIG, a big fan of this to be sure. :) Off the top of my head I know there were two of us dreaming of snow/weather/fur coats and the like; Marja, and myself- I'm sure there were others. But of mine and some of Marja's it became a repeating theme. So I thought to post this for those interested in the actual runes found and deciphered. pdf file and full text and what they've come up with fairly recent. http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf? pid=diva2%3A1383036&dswid=1616" [ Dreams/Visions/Prophecy ] [ Main Menu ] [Previous Message] [Next Message] Date: January 28, 2020 at 05:19:15 From: sher Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges I had this dream back on Sept. 11, 2017. I was told in the dream to "take your lesson from this horse" and then I heard "Dalecarlian". To this day I still do not understand the meaning of it. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/80161.html
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The winged horse with “8” legs? And see Eves post prior to this and 88. Also my post above that I just posted about seeing a flash vision for “7.7 kimovaararussia” |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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Thanks-- all related to Ragnarok-- earth changes- weather-ice ages-etc |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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Hi Pam! Geez, I can be pretty dense at times! I just now saw the connection of the boy and girl to the Ragnarok story ! Don’t know why I didn’t see it before. Thanks for your patience! Date: September 11, 2017 at 04:47:28 From: sher Subject: Dalecarlian horse Take your lesson from this horse...in a dream last night I was shown red horses and the bay horses and they were coming out of the west, running towards me... when they were about a half a mile away I could direct them with my thoughts and my right hand and sent them to the north?...then I was in a bright realm? and was with two women and two toddler children a boy and a girl, they were all wearing white...everything was in white..one woman was sitting behind a table and she was teaching the children something?...she was correcting their papers...a woman was sitting next to me and she was a "motherly" type...the little girl came and sat in my lap to show me her work and to wait for the woman to get finished correcting the little boys learning...I felt SO MUCH love for those two children...I told the little girl she was doing very good, they both were and I kissed the top of her head...she hopped down all smiles and went to wait for her brother to get finished...the woman to my right then said, you must love with that kind of love...like a child in all its innocence..then I woke...wow! |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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Don’t know if it has any meaning but the exact location I was at in my dream of the horses running towards me , and it was at sunset, was on Frank Lloyd Wright Blvd facing west at the intersection of 100th street in Arizona! Just down the street from his Taliesin West home? |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
URL: https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/horse-latitudes.html
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Maybe something to do with the sky, air, as in airplanes and horse latitudes. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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I just remembered another dream a few years ago where I was outside the earth’s atmosphere hovering over the Atlantic Ocean and this horse latitude that is 30 degrees north of cancer went through Sweden?! I’ll look for the dream. It was a beautiful dream. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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Wow Eve! I had never heard of this before! Great correlation! It is almost same as Tropic of Capricorn and Cancer?! |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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Here’s the connection? Taliesin West was his winter home! Also, wasn’t his third wife a follower of Gurdjieff? |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges PAM
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This may or may not apply but thought to share anyways. (This link is info from a bike rental place at carnival fwiw, not promoting that just sharing for the description since Norse myth is mentioned in this thread though I have not read all the links provided.) SLEIPNIR, HORSE OF ODIN, 8-LEGGED HORSE. https://ecuadorbikerental.com/sleipnir-horse-of-odin-8-legged-horse/ (fwiw Sleipnir means "slippy" or "the slipper") |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/80054.html
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Hi Pam! That post was four years ago and after I read what you had posted back then it started to all drop into place. I just posted today because of the “timing “ of things to come? Your dream from of the long grey coats just recently reminds me of it also. What went on in Sweden during the Dalecarlian uprising is a key to the time also. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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I understand. Did you ever read the 32 page pdf I posted on my thread? The Rök Runestone and the End of the World Per Holmberg (University of Gothenburg), Bo Gräslund (Uppsala University), Olof Sundqvist (Stockholm University), and Henrik Williams Its worth a read in the light of our dreams/visions/earth changes/weather/ragnaroc horse meanings. And while it may be pertinent to the times of Russia and Sweden, war and what not, my thread deals with Earth changes and the prophecies, visions of Ragnarok. Just wondering if you had read it??? |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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I read it a few years ago! I’m going through it again as there is much information but I’m starting to grasp more! My brain takes a bit for things to sink in and I have that “epiphany “ moment! Thank you for your wisdom all these years! |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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within the thread of posts I made I gave a post which spells it out real clear for me along with all the other dreams/visions, prophecies then and even lately: I tried to show that what this was explaining by citing all the mentions of earth changing weather from meteorology, sun , cosmic events/causes but had no way of showing it without a search function on my computer and still don't have it, for the whole document, so I found a site which made these comments about it and posted it back then: Date: January 28, 2020 at 16:04:17 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges URL: https://electroverse.net/chilling-1200-year-old- viking-stone-warns-of-the-next-little-ice-age/? fbclid=IwAR1iN_brGY1peqUPx0wZUbwFq830h0bd4q7qflB- KIC02YHQXK6MoGm3UDM)this link doesn't work anymore so I found an alternative here https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/a-coded-warning-1200- year-old-viking-stone-reveals-chilling- prophecy/D35PIDB7AGE2D7IBJ5CEC4M5SM/ 17 Jan, 2020 11:06 PM 9 mins to read A secret code that remained unsolved for 1200 years has finally been cracked – and it reveals a dark prophecy that is already coming true. This 1200-year-old Viking runestone carries a warning. It's a monument to a son, fallen in battle. But its coded text tells of a terrible threat to come. It's a 2.5m high, five-ton granite slab, deeply inscribed with Viking runes. For centuries, the monolith lay hidden as a loadstone in a Swedish Östergötland countryside church wall. But, in 1862, renovation workers discovered it had inscriptions on five sides. Now known as the Rök Runestone (Rökstenen), it turned out to be the oldest of its type. Also the longest. Historians have been puzzling over the meaning of its 725 Norse characters ever since. We know it was a eulogy, erected by a grieving Viking father. Did it also boast of his son's heroic lineage? Was it a record of great battles? Yes. And no. The stone enigmatically talks of conflict "between light and darkness, warmth and cold, life and death." But its runes aren't ordinary. They are encrypted, making the words seem disjointed and out-of-place. Whoever had the Rökstenen engraved didn't want just anyone to read it. It was a message of terror. It was a reminder of a cataclysmic past. It was a warning of the terrible power of climate change. SIGNS AND PORTENTS A diverse research team led by Professor Per Holmberg at the University of Gothenburg has attempted to crack a series of nine riddles listed on the stone. In the process, they claim to have uncovered what may be an ominous prophecy. Their findings have been published the science journal Futharc: International Journal of Runic Studies. Like other attempts to solve the Rökstenen code, they had a few clues to start with. A Viking named Varin raised the stone in honour of his son, Vamoth, at some time around 800AD. This was in the depths of Europe's Dark Age. And Varin feared things were going to get much darker. Let's say this, who, nine generations ago, lost life to the East but still reigns? The bold warrior, the men's chief, rode on the horse across the horizon to the east. Now sits, the foremost of the famous, equipped on his horse with the shield prepared. This refers to Theodoric the Great, a ruler of the Ostrogoth tribe who took advantage of the collapsing Roman empire to establish himself as emperor of the West. He died in AD526, about 300 years before the Rökstenen was raised. Why was Theodoric mentioned at all? Why refer to a death nine generations (300 years) earlier? The researchers believe Dark Age Europe regarded Theoderic's reign as an omen of the immense calamity that followed his death: A spate of volcanic eruptions covered Europe in darkness for several years. There were terrible storms. Crops failed. Disease spread. A secret code that remained unsolved for 1200 years has finally been cracked. Photo / Supplied AD536 became known as "the worst year to be alive" as the ash cloud accelerated the demise of the Roman Empire. Recent studies have found Scandinavia suffered particularly grievously at this time: up to 50 per cent of the region's population starved or fled. And the tribulations of this era – the trigger of Europe's Dark Age – were burnt into Viking lore that lingered for generations. RAGNAROK RISES Varin had cause for concern. He had witnessed three dramatic events - all of which were harbingers of doom. "Before the Rök Runestone was erected, a number of events occurred which must have seemed extremely ominous," says study author Bo Gräslund. "A powerful solar storm coloured the sky in dramatic shades of red, crop yields suffered from an extremely cold summer and later, a solar eclipse occurred just after sunrise. Even one of these events would have been enough to raise fears of another Fimbulwinter." Eclipses and extreme winters featured prominently in Norse mythology: in particular, they were part of the tale of Ragnarök – a cataclysmic battle of the gods prophesied to bring about the end of the world. Ragnarök told of the giant wolf Fenrir swallowing the Sun. In the process, the sky turned blood-red and sunlight "black" – and humanity fought a valiant last stand for survival. Varin, it seems, linked his son's death to the signs he had seen in the sky. "The inscription deals with anxiety triggered by a son's death and the fear of a new climate crisis similar to the catastrophic one after AD536," the study's authors write. Varin was anxious about his position in Viking society. Chiefs were believed to be the spiritual guardians of good harvests. "They were the leaders of the cult that held together the fragile balance between light and darkness. And finally, at Ragnarök, they would fight alongside Odin in the final battle for the light," says history professor and study co-author Olof Sundqvist. WRIT IN STONE Nine riddles form the core of the Rök Runestone inscription. Seven have answers. Mostly, the riddles appear to reference battles. But they aren't the usual Viking boasts about heroic deeds. Let us say this as a memory for Odin, which spoils of war there were two, which twelve times were taken as spoils of war, both from one to another? The answer reads: "The Sun and Moon". The Sun is also the answer to four of the other riddles. The remaining four talk of the Old Norse God Odin and his band of warriors. The study finds several aspects of these enigmatic inscriptions have parallels with other Old Norse texts. Not the famous tales of heroes and kings. But, rather, texts that grapple with the big questions of existence and the will of the gods. These were often riddles. The researchers say they now believe the Rök stone runes refer to a titanic struggle with the weather. Battle was how Varin related to his worst nightmare. And the signs in the sky were scarily similar to those in the terrible tales he had heard as a child. If the Sun lost its power, so would the Viking elite. "It is suggested that particular riddles for the inscription are linked to contemporary phenomena (a solar storm that coloured the sky red, an extremely cold winter and a solar eclipse) which may have created concern that the sun would lose its power," the researchers conclude. Viking chief Varin feared the return of the climate cataclysm that had wrought so much havoc just 300 years earlier. So he set his warning in stone. Rök Runestone. Photo / 123RF AN ANCIENT CHALLENGE The Rök Runestone enigma remains unsolved. This is just the latest of several attempted interpretations. Previous readings place it as a tribute to ancient heroes and battles. But exactly which ones – if any – remains uncertain. So the freshly revealed parallels with Norse mystic poetry certainly open up new realms of possibility. But, like the mysterious quatrains of Nostradamus, the inscriptions remain purposefully vague, poetic - and confusing. "The enigmatic questions, the intricate cryptograms, and the labyrinth reading order made the monument a challenge for a select few, and a potential place for their enlightenment," the study says. The Rökstenen's author probably intended to test its readers. The poetry was specifically written for those of high status and education. But much of that knowledge has since been lost, which leaves the text open to interpretation. "The key to unlocking the inscription was the interdisciplinary approach. Without these collaborations between textual analysis, archaeology, history of religions and runology, it would have been impossible to solve the riddles of the Rök runestone," Professor Holmberg says. THE ROKSTENEN RIDDLES The following is the latest Rök stone text translation, and the answer to the nine riddles explained with their textual parallels in Old Norse or Anglo-Saxon poetry. English translation of the inscription: CC-BY Henrik Williams, Per Holmberg, Bo Gräslund, Olof Sundqvist After Vamoth stand these runes. And Varin, the father, made them after the death-doomed son. Let us say this as a memory for Odin, which spoils of war there were two, which twelve times were taken as spoils of war, both from one to another? Answer: The Sun and the Moon Interpretation: Riddle 29 in the Exeter book: The monthly battle between the sun and the moon over the lunar light This let us say as second, who nine generations ago lost the life in the east but still decides the matter? Ride the horse did the bold champion, chief of men, over the eastern horizon. Now he sits armed on his horse, his shield strapped, foremost of the famous. Answer: The Sun Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 46–47: The wolf kills the sun after it has given birth to a new sun. Vafthruthnismal 11–12: The rise of the sun is a ride. Grimnismal 38: The sun has a shield Let us say this as a memory for Odin, who because of a wolf has suffered through a woman's sacrifice? A medieval scene from the poem Virginal: Theodoric the Great (Dietrich von Bern) and Hildebrand fight against dragons. Note that Theodoric is breathing fire. Photo / Wikipedia A medieval scene from the poem Virginal: Theodoric the Great (Dietrich von Bern) and Hildebrand fight against dragons. Note that Theodoric is breathing fire. Photo / Wikipedia Answer: The Sun Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 46-47: The wolf kills the sun This let us say as twelfth, where the wolf sees food on the battlefield, where twenty kings lie? Answer: On the battlefield of Ragnarok Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 17–18: The last struggle on the battlefield This let us say as thirteenth, which twenty kings were on the vast battlefield, of four names, born of four brothers? Five Valkis, sons of Rathulf, five Hraithulfs, sons of Rogulf, five Haisls, sons of Haruth, five Gunnmunds, sons of Bern. And for Odin a memory … (partially unreadable) Answer: The warriors of Odin Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 40-41: The warriors of Odin practice for Ragnarök. Grimnismal 23: The warriors of Odin meet the wolf. Eiriksmal 7–9: Five kings accompany King Eirik to the battle against the wolf. Let us say a memory for Odin, dare! [Who is] a protector of sanctuaries for a brother? Answer: The Sun Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 22–23: The brother of the sun is the moon. Lausavísa by Skúli Ţorsteinsson: At the setting of the sun it retires to its sanctuary [Whom] does the wolf redden with blood? Rök Runestone. Photo / 123RF Rök Runestone. Photo / 123RF Answer: The Sun Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 46–47: The wolf kills the sun. Voluspá 41: The wolf reddens the abodes of the gods with blood Let us say a memory for Odin to the young man, to whom is born an offspring? It is not a lie. Answer: Odin Interpretation: Voluspá 55: Odin's son Vithar [Who] could beat a giant? It is not a lie. Answer: Vithar Interpretation: Vafthruthnismal 52–53: Vithar kills the wolf. Voluspá 55: Vithar kills the wolf and restores balance. Clash! Of the nine riddles contained on the stone, five of them have the answer “the Sun.” Experts have long been stumped by the writing on the 8.5ft tall stone, with most theories claiming it is a dedication to the legendary Ostrogoth king, Theodore the Great but now it is thought it alludes to fears of a repeat of the deadly Late Antique Little Ice Age. According to new archaeological research, roughly 300 years before Rökstenen was erected, the world was struck by a climate catastrophe which saw global average temperatures plunge significantly. Scandinavia was one of the regions worst impacted by this shift, with crop failure, starvation, and mass death ripping through Northern Europe–more than 50% of the population was lost, along with many species. Furthermore, a string of violent volcanic eruptions darkened the skies with ash at this time, adding to the cooling, and further amplifying the crop failure, famine, and wars. “Before the Rök stone was erected, several ominous events occurred,” explained Bo Gräslund, a professor of archeology at Uppsala University. “A strong solar storm painted the sky in dramatic red colors, the harvests were hit by an extremely cold summer, and later a solar eclipse occurred just after the sunrise. It could have been enough of one of these events to trigger concerns about a new Fimbulwinter.” This diagram of the runestone shows the individual elements of the encrypted text.(see article with diagrams/pics) Why the runes were so deeply encrypted is anyone’s guess. Perhaps whoever had the Rökstenen engraved didn’t want just anyone to read it. It was a message of terror, after all. It was a reminder of a cataclysmic past. It was a warning of the terrible power of the Sun. Per Holmberg and his team claim to have uncovered an ominous prophecy. The stone speaks of a “battle enduring for centuries,” but not a fight with man, but one with nature. For a full read of the researchers’ recently published study, click here. (( I just posted the study with the pdf at top of thread)) |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Wow, I just looked it up and I have a great grandmother who was born in the late 1600’s in Skonberga about 26 miles from the rune stone. The family never traveled far from the area. They stayed in Skonberga, Rogberga and Kulltorp all in the Jonkoping area. I can’t get back further than this one grandmother. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-issues-ominous-warning-citizens-1858841
| Dalecarlian ! Take your lesson from this horse …. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/80159.html
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Wow, I just realized my flash vision from last night of the “7.7 kimovaararussia “ is a place I had never heard of and thought was near Kamchatka? Well it’s on the Russian /Finnish border in what is considered the Republic of Karelia. As far as I can tell there has never been an earthquake there? The history of the area is heartbreaking and something I was totally ignorant of. Praying . Feel it is tied into my Dalecarlian horse dream. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
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I did look it up before I read your post and had the same thought regarding the location of the border. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Greetings sher ~🦋~ I have some thoughts to share with you on this topic regarding Swedens announcement regarding war. In reading the article from Newsweek I was reminded of my third dream of Putin with the Swedish model on the sidewalk and it seeming like it was Christmas....Today I was reviewing history and saw that January 13th is the known as St. Knut's Day or the twentieth day of Christmas when there are festivities and the Christmas tree is thrown out...in tradition which some still follow the tree is tossed out of the window. It is known as the last day of Christmas. This reminds me of George Michaels WHAM song "Last Christmas" which became for the first time in the UK the number one song. January 13th on the Gregorian calendar is December 31st on the Julian calendar which is known as Old New Year's Even and January 14th is Old New Years Day...at this time the Julian calendar (ie. Orthodox) with be the first day of 2024: https://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?tzo=-4 This did not come to me until I was just doing a review of history for the day as I usually do. Not just that it was some years ago I remember seeing the name Knut in the news media stories and so took notice of the name Knut in general and have wondered given the timing of his departure is linked to The Ephipany (baptism of Christ). From the Orthodox calendar link January 13th Gregorian calendar = December 31st Julian calendar: Saturday after the Nativity and before the Baptism of Our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ Anyways sharing links for anyone interested in this here are links to St. Knut's Day and Old Christmas Day plus a copy and paste of my third dream of Putin. --ST. KNUT’S DAY: TIME TO TOSS A TREE: https://ingebretsens-blog.com/st-knuts-day-time-to-toss-a-tree/ --Saint Knut wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Knut%27s_Day --Old New Year wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_New_Year EXCERPT: Sun, Jan 14, 2024 The Orthodox New Year, also known as the Old New Year, according to the Julian calendar is on January 14 in the Gregorian calendar. The Julian calendar pre-dates the Gregorian calendar. Orthodox New Year - Time and Date ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -->3. Third Dream of Putin March 3rd. (2019) A military parade of sorts at night with a thin giant (at least 9 ft. tall at least maybe more) Swedish female model with white blonde hair in a sharp bob cut with bangs....wearing ochre color long dress of heavy fabric like canvas that was printed with red leafed wreaths that said RUSSIA in the middle in red also. This flashed over and over as it was some parade yet this model was on the sidewalk which I guess was her catwalk and showed up unexpected and took the attention away from the military parade going on so the focus was on her....The scene was reran as on tape/t.v....not sure many times with ones trying to figure out what she was all about showing up on a sidewalk beside the parade unexpected and a giant at that. The last image of her she had an Egyptian like (sphinx/king tut) shape head dress on of same fabric except on the top center part above her forehead was a red leaf wreath and it had Putin's face in the middle of it. The last part was really odd...it had same one again as friend from Florida and my deceased dad after the flesh and my stepmom who is alive and it was like Christmas and they brought me gifts ...but not wrapped and the only thing I recall was a black check book size wallet/purse...(my stepmom was carrying the gifts and gave them to me). I was wanting to show them this video that kept being rewound of the parade with the tall model on the sidewalk that kept being replayed over and over ...on youtube I guess...not sure being it was a dream....but I recall the t.v. was old time cathode ray tube t.v. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: Young Swedes are prepared to fight after being warned to 'prepare for war'
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p.s. Was not looking for it but happened across another article regarding the topic of Sweden and Russia. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Hmmmm…any thoughts from anyone with more knowledge of the Dalecarlian rebellions? Could this have relevance? |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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I saw a headline this morning that one f the last homes built by Frank Lloyd Wright was put on the market. My heart dropped because I thought it was Taliesin West! I have a deep attachment to that home for some reason and it was Taliesin West I was passing as the horses of my dream above were coming out of the west. I was traveling on Frank Lloyd Wright Blvd in the dream. Even though it is not the same home, I strongly feel this is a time line non the less. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6836-N-36th-St-Phoenix-AZ-85018/7809607_zpid/?
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Well its another beautiful home as seen by the photos provided at the link. And Talesin West belongs to the Unesco World Heritage https://franklloydwright.org/taliesin-west/ Taliesin West is a UNESCO World Heritage site and National Historic Landmark nestled in the desert foothills of the McDowell Mountains in Scottsdale, Arizona. Wright’s beloved winter home and desert laboratory was established in 1937 and diligently handcrafted over many years. Deeply connected to the desert from which it was forged, Taliesin West possesses an almost prehistoric grandeur. It was built and maintained almost entirely by Wright and his apprentices, making it among the most personal of the architect’s creations. Might be a tie in to world/earth changes time line. Wright died in 1959. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lloyd_Wright born in the later 1800's, more at link |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/llullaillaco-maiden-may-have-been-drugged-sacrificed
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Thanks Pamela! I spent a lot of springs and falls at Taliesin West, when I had the time, just to wander around quietly. I lived just down the street for many years. For some reason the quake in Argentina yesterday triggered this other dream and for some reason I feel there may also be a connection. Especially the children in my dream! Maybe something to watch for regarding this volcano? Date: August 17, 2018 at 05:42:47 From: sher Subject: Dream of driving up and seeing a mountain URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llullaillaco#/media/File:Llullaillaco_1.jpg I had a very vivid dream I was driving up to get to the top of a mountain...I kept going higher and higher and thinking to my self " I am at 18,000 feet, when will I get to the top!?"...then I came around a bend and to my left and at a distance, rose even higher, the top of the mountain, the landscape was a golden color and the top of the mountain was a dark blue-grey in color...there was no snow or ice anywhere...I looked online for a mountain that might look like what I saw and this Llullaillaco in Argentina looks very much like it...all I kept thinking, was that I had taken a car that had bad brakes and how was I to get back down?... |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000j5x2/executive
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Jump to NavigationMENU Latest Earthquake M 6.8 - 24 km SW of Campo Gallo, Argentina 2023-01-20 22:09:39 (UTC)26.721°S 63.039°W610.7 km depth |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Yesterday IRL , I was going to an appointment early in the morning traveling on the same street I was on in this dream. In all the years I’ve been on this city street I have never encountered horses. But yesterday I pulled up to the intersection of the streets in my dream where the red and bay horses were coming from the west and I guided them to the north with my right hand for protection. At THAT intersection yesterday morning in an open stock trailer stopped at the signal in front of me ,were a red gelding and a bay colored mare all saddled up and ready for a ride! The hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was interesting to say the least. Then I saw this article from yesterday and I am very very worried. |
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From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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If nuclear warfare results in horse riding rather than driving cars, worrying over auto insurance won't be a problem. I've been watching a lot of Youtube map simulations of the Roman-Gaul-Persian battles in which 50,000 men armies line up against each other and the cavalries (horses) are usually at the flanks, with missiles consisting of bow and arrows, spears, catapults and later cannons. My main worry is whether there will be a supply chain for food delivery. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalecarlian_rebellion_(1743)
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Saw a vision this morning of a swirling Swedish flag. It kept engulfing itself until nothing was left but darkness. You are at a fork in the road. “Take your lesson from this horse! Dalecarlian “ |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dala Horse: Story behind the iconic Swedish souvenir
URL: https://hejsweden.com/en/swedish-red-dala-horse-present/
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Came across this, sher, hope it's helpful... Dala is shorter version of Dalearlian, I guess.) Seems kind of a simplistic explanation of its origins, but didn't see anything more esoteric on them... This does seem to be the overall consensus from what I did find... Will keep an eye to see if you find anything different! ;) *** It can be found in every Swedish souvenir-shop. One of the most iconic national symbols of Sweden: The Dalahäst (Dala horse). It is mostly colored in red, decorated with kurbits pattern, twisting plants and flowers. I have one on my desk, right next to my Swedish flag and table- midsummer pole. Those sweet little horses usually find their new homes in shelves of people who either have been to Sweden or know someone who has. As a real Swede, you should consider the Dala horse as one of the most typical Swedish things anyone who has some kind of connection to Sweden can have in one's Billy shelf Origin of the Dala horse Sweden is full of trees. Many years ago wood-workers from the Swedish province of Dalarna were having a break from wood working, sitting on a tree trunk, being bored. They decided to do something entertaining, (back then they didn't have a mobile phone and thereby no access to Facebook or Aftonbladet.se) so they looked around and since they were not very creative they looked around for inspiration. What they saw was nothing but wood and horses, when all the sudden one guy said, let’s make wooden horses. So they did and took them home to the children. Later when the children grew up and had no use for the horses anymore, they took them to Gamla Stan (old town) in Stockholm and sold them to Sweden tourists. The world’s largest Dalahäst is 13 meters high and can be seen at the junction of Swedish national roads 70/68 in Avesta. The tree it's made of must have been really huge, right?! Why is the Dala horse red Some say one guy was not too skilled with the knife, therefore the red color – ouch. But that’s just not true. It’s because after being taken home from the woods, the horses were decorated with Dala red, yes, the same color Swedes use to paint their wooden houses in. There's a lot of that color in Sweden, so why not using it for everything?! Although, strangely, I haven't seen a Volvo in that color yet… Dala horse as a present If you, as a new-Swede, ever receive a present from an old-Swede, chances are high, you might get a Dala horse. If you already have one you'll probably just get flowers or a bottle of wine instead. If you don't own a Dala horse yourself already, consider giving away one to someone who at some point expressed that he or she likes Sweden. |
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From: Curly Bear, [DNS_Address]
Subject: photo of Dalerian Horse(NT)
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dala Horse: Story behind the iconic Swedish souvenir
URL: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalecarlian_rebellion_(1743)
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Thank you shadow! I’m familiar with the dala horse because I researched it after the dream. I think it has more to do with the Dalecarlian rebellion. Why I was give that word specifically? I feel it has to do with nato and the similarities to the rebellions of the 1700’s . I’m sorry for the confusion and thank you for taking the time to look into the information!!!! My direct maternal line goes back to this area. Here’s the original dream. January 28, 2020 at 05:19:15 From: sher Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges I had this dream back on Sept. 11, 2017. I was told in the dream to "take your lesson from this horse" and then I heard "Dalecarlian". To this day I still do not understand the meaning of it. Date: September 11, 2017 at 04:47:28 From: sher Subject: Dalecarlian horse Take your lesson from this horse...in a dream last night I was shown red horses and the bay horses and they were coming out of the west, running towards me... when they were about a half a mile away I could direct them with my thoughts and my right hand and sent them to the north?...then I was in a bright realm? and was with two women and two toddler children a boy and a girl, they were all wearing white...everything was in white..one woman was sitting behind a table and she was teaching the children something?...she was correcting their papers...a woman was sitting next to me and she was a "motherly" type...the little girl came and sat in my lap to show me her work and to wait for the woman to get finished correcting the little boys learning...I felt SO MUCH love for those two children...I told the little girl she was doing very good, they both were and I kissed the top of her head...she hopped down all smiles and went to wait for her brother to get finished...the woman to my right then said, you must love with that kind of love...like a child in all its innocence..then I woke...wow! |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dala Horse: Story behind the iconic Swedish souvenir
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Ah I see! lol Had a feeling that the juice/charge of this lay in deeper territory, but I don't have Swedish history in my brain's RAM files nor did anything around that rebellion come up in searches using "Dalecarlian"... Searching with the rebellion term, I see that now... ;) Thanks for sharing your lovely dream... ;) As for historical comparisons that have anything to do with current politics, global or national, choosing to simply refrain from any comment feels intuitively best to me... ;) My Mom's paternal line goes back to Sweden as well! Best to you... ;) |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dala Horse: Story behind the iconic Swedish souvenir
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oh, here we go! Much better detail... ;)
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Excerpt: "A Dalecarlian horse or Dala horse (/ˌdɑːləˈkɑːrliən/;[1] Swedish: Dalahäst) is a traditional carved, painted wooden statue of a horse originating in the Swedish province of Dalarna (Dalecarlia). In the old days[when?] the Dalecarlian horse was mostly used as a toy for children; in modern times it has become a symbol of Dalarna, as well as of Sweden in general. Several types of Dalecarlian horses are made, with distinguishing features common to the locality of the site where they are produced. One particular style has, however, become much more common and widespread than others. It is stoutly carved and painted bright red with details and a harness in white, green, yellow and blue. History The wooden horses are painted in the kurbits style. This one is from around 1950. The carving of Dala horses as a livelihood is thought to have started in the village of Bergkarlĺs [sv] in central Sweden, though the nearby "horse" villages of Risa [sv], Vattnäs, and Nusnäs were also centres of horse-making. The villages were involved in the art of furniture and clock-making, and it is likely the leftover scraps of wood were put to use in the production of Dala horses.[2] Many early Dala horses were not painted at all, but in the beginning of the 19th century painting them in a single color, white or red, became common practice. The decoration of the Dala horse has its roots in furniture painting and was perfected over the years. According to a local tale, a wandering painter in the style of kurbits came across one of these Dala horses in a farm he was decorating. When asked by one of the children why that horse was not as beautifully painted as the ones in the decorations, he painted the Dala horse in the same style. This tradition was then carried on in order to raise the market value of the Dala horses. The earliest references to wooden horses for sale are from 1623. In the 19th century, Stikĺ Erik Hansson [sv] from the village Risa in the parish of Mora introduced the technique of painting with two colours on the same brush, still used today. In the book "The Wooden Horses of Sweden," the author mentions that this famous Dala painter is buried in a small churchyard in Nebraska after having immigrated to the Midwest in 1887 at the age of 64. He changed his name to Erik Erikson upon coming to America and is buried at Bega Cemetery in Stanton County Nebraska, outside of Norfolk. While there were many horse whittlers in the early production of Dala horses, there were comparatively few horse painters. The large number of whittlers and a lack of distinguishing features makes it difficult to distinguish between different whittlers. Early painters very rarely signed their work, but they did have their own distinct pattern from which it is often possible to identify who painted a particular horse. In the 1930s (especially after the World's Expo in Paris 1937 and World's Fair in New York 1939 in which Dala horses were shown) mass production of Dala horses started. This marks the beginning of a new era for the Dala horse, transitioning from toy to a national symbol and popular souvenir. The Dalecarlian horse of today is still a handcrafted article, made of pine, and its pattern is about 150 years old. At least nine different people contribute their skills to create each horse. The distinctive shape of the horse is due to the usage of flat-plane style carving. Folklore and popular culture An apocryphal legend of the Dalecarlian horse is that they became the national toy in 1716. According to the legend, soldiers loyal to King Charles XII were quartered in the Dalecarlian region and carved the toys as gifts for their hosts.[3] In the 2003 Norwegian film Kitchen Stories, a small Dala horse is part of a joke when a character expected a real horse as a reward. Geographical differences Rytter Olof Matsson Dala Horse A Dala horse painted by Rytter Olof Matsson, Risa, around 1910. Early production of Dala horses was concentrated to four villages: Bergkarlĺs, Risa, Vattnäs, and Nusnäs, all in the parish of Mora. Production is believed to have started in Bergkarlĺs and later spread to nearby villages Risa and Vattnäs through kindred. At about the same time production started independently in Nusnäs, and being farther away their style was less influenced by those of the other villages. The individual painters each had their particular style, and the few who are old enough to remember first- or second-hand the history can often tell which village, and in some cases which carver or painter, turned out a particular horse. The distinguishing features of many early painters from these villages have now been documented.[4][5] Many of the works by the earliest horse makers are no longer in existence but those that remain are cherished by their owners and have often been passed down through generations. These are also coveted by collectors, and their value has risen markedly over the years. Today, many of the villages in Dalarna county make Dala horses with individual styles representing the district of origin. These horses also have distinctive shapes and often come in different sizes. Some horses like the Nusnäs horse are stocky work horses; others are lean and upright with stately countenance like the Rättvik horse. Many of these can be seen at a yearly exhibition (since the year 2000), which is held at Klockargĺrden in Leksand, Sweden. Currently about forty present carvers and painters show their Dala horses and put them up for sale. |
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From: talbot shaw lindstrom, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Thank you talbot shaw lindstrom. It breaks my heart. I hope you are staying safe and well. Blessings to you. |
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From: Talbot Shaw Lindstrom, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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The name is the latin name for a old Swedish province where a revolt began against a foreign king of Sweden several centuries ago. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Thank you for this reminder. It caused me to read again a bit of the history and I saw something I had not been aware of before. Especially regarding the two women and children of my dream. Christina Nilsdotter Gyllenstierna. She was for a short time in charge of the children of the royal court? Between the two queens. Funny that my great, great grandmother from Jonkoping was Christina Nilsdotter. I know it is a very common name. Again thank you. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dalecarlian+runes&atb=v53-3__&ia=images
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The word/name Dalecarlian definitely ties in with this. And it mentions the horse in your dream. His name is Sleipnir. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dalecarlian+horse+meaning&atb=v53-3__&ia=web In the pdf document I posted link to, there are 17 mentions of the horse. He has 8 legs. Have you read the document yet? Heres a wiki link about the horse too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleipnir In chapter 43, Sleipnir's origins are described. Gangleri (described earlier in the book as King Gylfi in disguise) asks High who the horse Sleipnir belongs to and what there is to tell about it. High expresses surprise in Gangleri's lack of knowledge about Sleipnir and its origin. High tells a story set "right at the beginning of the gods' settlement, when the gods established Midgard and built Val-Hall" about an unnamed builder who has offered to build a fortification for the gods in three seasons that will keep out invaders in exchange for the goddess Freyja, the sun, and the moon. After some debate, the gods agree to this, but place a number of restrictions on the builder, including that he must complete the work within three seasons with the help of no man. The builder makes a single request; that he may have help from his stallion Svađilfari, and due to Loki's influence, this is allowed. The stallion Svađilfari performs twice the deeds of strength as the builder, and hauls enormous rocks to the surprise of the gods. The builder, with Svađilfari, makes fast progress on the wall, and three days before the deadline of summer, the builder was nearly at the entrance to the fortification. The gods convene, and figured out who was responsible, resulting in a unanimous agreement that, along with most trouble, Loki was to blame.[9] The gods declare that Loki would deserve a horrible death if he could not find a scheme that would cause the builder to forfeit his payment, and threatened to attack him. Loki, afraid, swore oaths that he would devise a scheme to cause the builder to forfeit the payment, whatever it would cost himself. That night, the builder drove out to fetch stone with his stallion Svađilfari, and out from a wood ran a mare. The mare neighed at Svađilfari, and "realizing what kind of horse it was," Svađilfari became frantic, neighed, tore apart his tackle, and ran towards the mare. The mare ran to the wood, Svađilfari followed, and the builder chased after. The two horses ran around all night, causing the building work to be held up for the night, and the previous momentum of building work that the builder had been able to maintain was not continued.[10] When the Ćsir realize that the builder is a hrimthurs, they disregard their previous oaths with the builder, and call for Thor. Thor arrives, and kills the builder by smashing the builder's skull into shards with the hammer Mjöllnir. However, Loki had "such dealings" with Svađilfari that "somewhat later" Loki gave birth to a grey foal with eight legs; the horse Sleipnir, "the best horse among gods and men."[10] In chapter 49, High describes the death of the god Baldr. Hermóđr agrees to ride to Hel to offer a ransom for Baldr's return, and so "then Odin's horse Sleipnir was fetched and led forward." Hermóđr mounts Sleipnir and rides away. Hermóđr rides for nine nights in deep, dark valleys where Hermóđr can see nothing. The two arrive at the river Gjöll and then continue to Gjöll bridge, encountering a maiden guarding the bridge named Móđguđr. Some dialogue occurs between Hermóđr and Móđguđr, including that Móđguđr notes that recently there had ridden five battalions of dead men across the bridge that made less sound than he. Sleipnir and Hermóđr continue "downwards and northwards" on the road to Hel, until the two arrive at Hel's gates. Hermóđr dismounts from Sleipnir, tightens Sleipnir's girth, mounts him, and spurs Sleipnir on. Sleipnir "jumped so hard and over the gate that it came nowhere near." Hermóđr rides up to the hall, and dismounts from Sleipnir. After Hermóđr's pleas to Hel to return Baldr are accepted under a condition, Hermóđr and Baldr retrace their path backward and return to Asgard.[11] In chapter 16 of the book Skáldskaparmál, a kenning given for Loki is "relative of Sleipnir."[12] In chapter 17, a story is provided in which Odin rides Sleipnir into the land of Jötunheimr and arrives at the residence of the jötunn Hrungnir. Hrungnir asks "what sort of person this was" wearing a golden helmet, "riding sky and sea," and says that the stranger "has a marvellously good horse." Odin wagers his head that no horse as good could be found in all of Jötunheimr. Hrungnir admitted that it was a fine horse, yet states that he owns a much longer-paced horse; Gullfaxi. Incensed, Hrungnir leaps atop Gullfaxi, intending to attack Odin for Odin's boasting. Odin gallops hard ahead of Hrungnir, and, in his, fury, Hrungnir finds himself having rushed into the gates of Asgard.[13] In chapter 58, Sleipnir is mentioned among a list of horses in Ţorgrímsţula: "Hrafn and Sleipnir, splendid horses [...]".[14] In addition, Sleipnir occurs twice in kennings for "ship" (once appearing in chapter 25 in a work by the skald Refr, and "sea-Sleipnir" appearing in chapter 49 in Húsdrápa, a work by the 10th century skald Úlfr Uggason).[15] Hervarar saga ok Heiđreks[edit] In Hervarar saga ok Heiđreks, the poem Heiđreks gátur contains a riddle that mentions Sleipnir and Odin: 36. Gestumblindi said: "Who are the twain that on ten feet run? three eyes they have, but only one tail. Alright guess now this riddle, Heithrek!" Heithrek said: "Good is thy riddle, Gestumblindi, and guessed it is: that is Odin riding on Sleipnir."[16] Hilda Ellis Davidson says that "the eight-legged horse of Odin is the typical steed of the shaman" and that in the shaman's journeys to the heavens or the underworld, a shaman "is usually represented as riding on some bird or animal." Davidson says that while the creature may vary, the horse is fairly common "in the lands where horses are in general use, and Sleipnir's ability to bear the god through the air is typical of the shaman's steed" and cites an example from a study of shamanism by Mircea Eliade of an eight-legged foal from a story of a Buryat shaman. Davidson says that while attempts have been made to connect Sleipnir with hobby horses and steeds with more than four feet that appear in carnivals and processions, but that "a more fruitful resemblance seems to be on the bier on which a dead man is carried in the funeral procession by four bearers; borne along thus, he may be described as riding on a steed with eight legs." As an example, Davidson cites a funeral dirge from the Gondi people in India as recorded by Verrier Elwin, stating that "it contains references to Bagri Maro, the horse with eight legs, and it is clear from the song that it is the dead man's bier." Davidson says that the song is sung when a distinguished Muria dies, and provides a verse:[23] much more at link.. so it appears the horse represents the shaman's steed. Also important in this saga, Odin is mentioned to be part of the lost tribes of Israel. I have Nordic ancestry too- you must too, to have a dream like that. https://www.nordiskisrael.dk/artikler/danes_and_jutes_dan_and_judahdan.html |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Thanks for this information. I have been reading today the documents and poems. I still am trying to understand the meaning, take your lesson from this horse. And the two children in the dream learning? I was only able to trace my "documented" ancestry(direct maternal line) back to the Kulltorp Jonkoping area of Sweden, but because of past dreams I know there is a connection to Dalarna. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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In case you are interested, lol, I finally was able to trace my direct maternal line back to 1693 with documentation to Mörtarbo, Folkärna, Dalarna, Sweden!!! I KNEW it was there. It has taken me five years to finally find this. My 7th great grandmother. Now I want to go see it. I wish I could find the house in my dream. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
| Great news for you, yay! We do often have the dna cell memories in dreams to guide us on what we should know and pay attention to. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Thanks, Pam! I most heartily agree! The dream was almost real as if I were flying in the air above the countryside and then suddenly swooped down to this house. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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If your part Swedish, you're part of the heritage/story/dna! Lots of reading and studying. How the horse meaning and the two children are related, for you to decipher-- but in the previous info I gave from wiki, it says the horse is the shaman's steed.... given you are being shown this stuff means allot-- the lesson for you is to search it out, all of it, maybe past life or DNA cell memory for you. And how it all relates to current times, for the weather/earth changes and learning that part of your heritage is with the Nordic/Scandinavian people who are also part of the lost tribes.. so very exciting days to be sure. God bless. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Reading your last post about the little ice age triggered my memory of a flash vision I had while awake back in 2017. Very, very rare for me. I was outside at the bbq grilling dinner and then all of a sudden I was inside "myself" looking out at a white haze through frozen twisted strands of ash-colored hair in front of my face. I knew I was dying and my spirit was slipping away. I knew I was sitting with my back against a tree and I knew my husband had left me there to die. I kept waiting for him to return for me. I stood at my bbq after it vanished with the most heart-wrenching pain I have ever felt! I also knew it was in a Scandinavian country. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Well, there ya go! thanks for recalling and sharing. ❤ God is Good. Them bones are raising up as Ezekiel said they would. As Yah told him they would. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Thank you Pam for your kind words and encouragement! You take care! |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
| You're welcome and am surprised more did not comment here- especially those who've had the "winter/cold/snow/freezing" dreams. |
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From: Karin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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do you know about Dalahastar from Dalarna in Sweden ? a Swedish symbol That is where Gustav Vasa got the farmers to help him chase away the Danes after the bloodbath in Stockholm in 1520 where the Danes about killed of the Swedish aristocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalecarlian_horse |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/65275.html
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This was the dream and I now know it was Dalarna. I did not mention in the dream my two horses I saw in the corral area of one of the outbuildings. At the time I didn't think it was relevant, but now I do. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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I don't know why I am just noticing this now but in the dream of Sweden the "father" in the dream with the "fishing" hat that looked like a "cowboy" hat? I don't know why that was an impression in the dream, but he had taken a pipe and placed it between his teeth in my dream and I could hear and feel it as the stem hit his teeth and then he clenched it. This morning, while researching a bit more on Van Gogh, I found a self- portrait of himself with the exact same hat a pipe in his teeth and looking just like the man in my dream. Why? What would be the connection? I have never seen this self-portrait before today. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=van+gogh+self+portrait+with+ht+and+pipe&atb=v53-3__&iax=images&ia=images
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Hi Sher- which portrait at link looks like one in your dream? If its a cowboy hat- we've had the symbol about that already shown and discussed by Matteo; cowboy/cowgirl symbolizes father/mother of humankind. Also a cigar/cigarette/smoking pipe symbolizes bollides/fire from sky, space rocks, meteors, comets. Its' smokin'. Good thing you recalled those details. :) Lots of discussion and dreams about that too- I've had them, and MAtteo has replied about them in past discussions. You should look up the name meaning for Van Gogh too., |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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At the link it is the 4th one. Thanks Pam, I hope you are doing better! I will look into the name also. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
URL: https://www.interglot.com/dictionary/en/nl/search?q=Gogh&m=
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at the link - it showing Gogh means God, so the bolides/meteors/comets, fireballs are from God. Van, means from or of and Gogh, is God. + the smoking pipe symbol. "Suggestions for Gogh in Dutch Spelling Suggestions for: Gogh Gorj; God; Gods; Goud; Goa; GBO; gons; gooi; goor; GBVB" Its about the same, still having break outs and around the eye massive swelling, fluid in the tissues. Ack. I have to just keep taking the meds, get plenty of rest and wait for it to heal. Back to two docs this coming week. thks. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Thanks Karin! I read through this yesterday and it was helpful! I posted a dream back in 2017 I think, I have to look, where I was over Dalarna, and there was a red horse and a white horse in that dream too. Both of the horses were mine, that I had years ago. Rocky was my red horse and Music my White horse. First dream I had ever had of what I know now was Sweden. |
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From: Karin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Amazing. Those horses are very important in Sweden. I have a few of them and many do. It is one of our symbols. Moose is another one like the USA has Bald Eagle. Dalarna is so beautiful. so much is happening there skiing, midsummer dances etc. |
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From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ragnarok related dreams and earthchanges
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Also in the dream, if it has any meaning, there was an Irish wolfhound that was running with the horses and it was to be a "companion" to them? Marja had her white horses dream a few weeks later, in Oct. 2017 and there were large dogs and a black cougar with that dream. I had an encounter with a black cougar on our ranch years ago in California, where I had a white horse named Music. It was an amazing sight and I never saw it again. It never harmed my horse, pygmy goats or cows either. |
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