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Date: January 15, 2023 at 11:55:04
From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: MC Young’s Wagon Wheel Vision


MC’s dream or vision with the wagon wheels going across the US
from Louisiana ish to Seattle ish. Do you remember what happened.


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Date: January 15, 2023 at 22:28:37
From: Mystic Wanderer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: MC Young’s Wagon Wheel Vision

URL: gods of war by def leppard


Kk...this is very weird..when I heard wheel I got in
the aethers...'THE wheels of life' as in Buddhism...and
btw the buddhist Wheel is in regards to cycles I'm
getting as well.

https://www.gesar-travel.com/wheel-of-life/?lang=en

Whoever has visited a Tibetan Buddhist monastery, no
matter if in Ladakh, Tibet or Bhutan, has also probably
noticed, usually at the entrance of the temple, a
drawing of the Buddhist Wheel of Life. This symbolic
representation, or Bhavacakra, serves as a wonderful
summary of what Buddhism is, and also reminds us that
every action has consequences. It is no coincidence,
then, that this concept, and its colorful
representation, are explained very early in the life of
every child.

The Buddhist Wheel of Life: Part 1
The wheel of life is held or supported by a wrathful
deity that usually represents Yama, the god of death,
but can also occasionally be interpreted as Mara, the
god of seduction, or Srinpo, a mythical giant.

The inner circle....

At the center of the wheel of life there is a smaller
circle. The wheel turns eternally, powered by the three
animals in it: a rooster, a snake and a pig. They bite
each other’s tail and symbolize the three poisons of
life: the rooster stands for greed, the snake for
hatred, and the pig represents ignorance or delusion.
These three poisons are the ones that keep us trapped
inside the wheel of life. The goal, then, is to free
ourselves from this infinite cycle of rebirths.

The inner circle is surrounded by another one divided
in two halves: shadow and light. In the dark half, the
doomed, tied to one another, are dragged and tortured
by monstrous demons. The brighter area is filled with
people who have to eke out a better (or at least less
horrible) existence.

The six realms of the Wheel of Life...
Around the inner circle we find the six realms in which
we can be reborn. We start with the less than ideal
areas:

1. The world of hungry ghosts...
Due to their narrow necks and throats, the hungry
ghosts are unable to eat, and must therefore suffer
maddening hunger and unquenchable thirst throughout
their whole existence. It is mainly their greed that
brought them to this realm. In this realm of
unfulfilled (or unfulfillable) desire, the Buddha is
represented with a jar full of nectar, symbolizing the
virtue of generosity. To put it in simpler terms: this
is how your karma looks when you are selfish and
greedy. To avoid such a fate, be generous and make
sacrifices.

2. The hell....
Whoever ends up here will suffer unimaginable pain,
impossible heat and immeasurable cold. The depictions
of Buddhist hell vary and recall in many ways those of
the Christian one. The condemned, burning slowly over
eternal fires, see their members and genitals chopped
off before being cooked and eaten by insatiable demons.
Once again there is a Buddha, in this case washing and
cleaning with water the path that leads out of Hell.
The simple explanation: anger and hatred are the way
in; patience, the way out.

3. The realm of the animals...
This is the destination of those who had led lives
particularly distinguished by ignorance and weakness.
Existence as an animal is definitely not easy: they are
hunted and eaten by humans or other animals without a
moment of rest. Also here there is a Buddha, who with
his sword – a symbol for the destruction of ignorance –
shows the way out of the realm.

4. The world of the humans...
In the realm of humans, and due to their selfishness
and passions, people suffer the misfortunes of illness,
old age and death. In general, however, this area of
life is the best of all six, since man has here access
to the Buddhist teachings, and therefore has also the
opportunity to escape from the wheel of life (that is,
of reaching Nirvana). The historical Buddha, present
here, symbolizes this possibility.

5. The world of the gods...
The world of the gods stands for pleasure and the
illusion of eternal happiness. Sounds very tempting,
right? But this realm is dangerous in its own way: one
is never too far from the edge, and as pride and vanity
grow inside us, so does the risk of falling back down
into the lower reaches of the wheel of life. The
Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara warns us against this, by
proclaiming the virtue of meditation.

6. The realm of the demi gods...
The last of the six areas of life is a world inhabited
by demigods in constant struggle, fighting a
neverending battle with the gods. They quarrel over the
ownership of the Tree of Desire, whose roots lie on the
domain of the titans, but whose leafy top, heavy with
ripe fruits, rests on the side of the gods. Filled with
envy, they fight for the possession of the tree. So
it’s jealousy that keeps them trapped in Samsara, the
cycle of births. The Buddha in this realm reminds them
of this.

Although redemption or illumination are most likely in
the world of men, none of the six areas is hopeless.
This is illustrated by the Buddhas/teachers in each
realm, who draw attention to a world full with self-
made dilemmas.

The 12 links of the wheel of life’s outer rim will be
explained in a future post.
.....

Ps...in a lot of ways the judaeo-christian Bible shares
alot of the same principles..we have the Fall of
mankind in the Garden of Eden..we have the Fall of the
angelic Ones and lucifer...re..revs 12... and the War
in Heaven/the wars of the sons of light and the sons of
darkness aka the dead sea scrolls..the war scroll...
Jesus taught the Path aka The Way/The Way Shower too
..and jesus is the door/gate and the Example to the
returning to Heaven and Father G_d...Jesus is also a
Teacher of Righteousness..a very significant
rabbi/teacher!
The difference is that all illnesses and all the sin
nature is the reprocussions of the Fall in the Garden
via lucifer the now 'prince of the power of the
air/aethers' in the lower mid heavens which include the
inner dimensions abd inner realms of spirit.
......

https://itibettravel.com/buddhist-wheel-of-life/


Buddhist Wheel of Life....
Buddhist wheel of life is one of the Most important
paintings in Tibetan Buddhism, The initial drawing was
designed by Buddha himself. Buddha really encourages
this painting to be painted outside every Buddhist
temples and monastery. For this reason, the Painting of
the Buddhist wheel of life being painted outside all
the Buddhist temple and the monastery was to teach the
profound Buddhist philosophy of life and perception to
more simple-mind farmers or cowherds. So this image is
just for communicating the Buddhist philosophy to the
general audience.

The Painting of Buddhist wheel of life represent
Samsara, The Bhavacakra is popularly referred to as the
wheel of life, and may also be glossed as wheel of
cyclic existence or wheel of becoming.

Different parts of the Painting on Buddhist Wheel of
Life

Images in the center circle represent the three poison;
Ignorance, Attachment and Aversion
The second circle from the center represent Karma.
The third circle represent the realms of Samsara
The forth represent twelve links of dependent
origination

The fierce figure holding the wheel is the Mara, the
god of death and he represents impermanence in this
figure

The moon represents liberation from the circle
existence or Samsara

The Buddha pointing the moon represent his teaching and
also represent he is tell all that liberation is
possible

The center layer of the Buddhist Wheel of Life; The
three poison
In the center of the wheel are three animals; a pig, a
snake, and a bird. these three represent the three
poison of in Buddhist philosophy, ignorance, aversion,
and attachment, respectively. The pig represents
ignorance. This conception is base on the Indian
concept of the pig being a dirties animal, it sleeps in
the dirtiest place, and eats whatever come to its
mouth. A snake represents aversion or anger because the
slightest touch to it will trigger a strike. The bird
is for the attachment, desire of clinging. The bird
which they use in the painting is an Indian bird that
is very attached to its partner. These three animal
represent three poison which is a core to our Samsaric
existence

In most of the drawing, the three animal is shown
coming out of the mouth of another, that indicates
Aversion leads to ignorance and Ignorance lead to
aversion. Under the influence of these three poison
beings create, beings create Karma. Shown on the next
level.

Second Layer of Buddhist Wheel of Life: Karma
Karma basically means cause and effect. it is said if
you plant a seed of chilly, you will only get chilly.
So is if you harm others, it will bring back a negative
impact on you. In the second level the Karma, the
circle is divided into two half, the upper half is
usually painted in white or bright color. it also has
people moving up to the high realms. the lower half
shows people moving down to the miserable stages and
the path is colored dark.

This indicates if you do a good deed you will be happy
and you will start moving upwards to the Buddha-hood or
their next life six realms of Samsara. The next circle
is six realms of Samsara.

Third Layer of Buddhist Wheel of Life: The six realms
of Samsara.
The third layer of the Buddhist Wheel of Life represent
the realms of Samsara. It is divided into six sections
for the six realms. realms are divided into three
higher realms and three lower realms. Some paint might
have five as they would combine the god realm with
Demigod realms

The three higher realms are shown in the top half of
the circle.

God realms (Deva): The god in Buddhism is different
from the creator god in Hindu and other Non-theistic
religion. we believe the creator god doesn’t exist and
the god is we believe live within the Samsaric cycle of
existence. The god lives a very long life, they enjoy
life in abundance and pleasure. These pleasures and
abundance of life become a distraction and never think
to practice the Dharma. When the death comes nears they
will know about the time of death and they would
exhaust all their karma ( which brought them to being
born in the god realm). and there can clearly see their
own next life. being born in god realm in very hard
during the time before dying. Another pain in this
realm is when you are young and healthy you will have
lots of friends and family but during the old age your
body would start rotten before your death and No one
could come near you for the smell. it is said god dies
in lonely and miserable death. So we say God suffers
from a long life.

Demi-god realm (Asura): The Demi- good have all the god
abundance and pleasures. they send always keep fighting
within themselves and even making war with the god.
During their war with god, they would lose every time
and they suffer constant fighting and jealousy and
being killed or wounded in the wars. So we say the Demi
god suffers from the flight and wars

Human realm (Manuṣya): Humans suffering starts from
birth to the end at the death. We suffer from hunger,
thirst, cold, separation from friends, being attacked
by enemies, not getting as we please. Our suffering is
broad categories into the suffering of Birth, old age,
sickness, and death. Yet the human realm is most
suitable for practice buddha-dharma, as we are not
completely distracted by pleasure, or pain and
suffering. and we are more capable then beings animal
realms.

The three lower realms, as shown in the lower part of
the circle:

Animal realm (Tiryagyoni): Domesticated animals suffer
from being exploited by human-like being killed for
food and overworked. Wild animals suffer from being
attacked and eaten by other animals. They live in
constant fear and exploitation.

Hungry ghost realm (Preta): They are rich and yet they
suffer from extreme hunger and thirst. They have a big
tummy and a very thin neck not even enough to swallow a
single drop of water. they can see the water but can
drink. But sometimes they do can manage to eat or drink
some but it would only burn their neck and belly as it
goes down. We often tell our friends if you are being
so miser, you will be born into the realm of hunger
god.

Hell realm (Naraka): In hell beings suffer immeasurable
suffering for eons of time. there are eighteen
different types of hell, each inflicting a different
kind of torment. In hot hell, beings suffer from
unbearable heat and continual torments of various
kinds. In the cold hell, beings suffer from unbearable
cold and other torments.

Among the six realms, the human realm is considered as
the best to practice the Dharma. In each realm, you
will find a Buddha in all the realms trying to help
sentient being to find their way to nirvana.

Outer ring of Buddhist Wheel of Life: twelve links of
dependent origination...

The twelve links of dependent origination describe the
Samsaric rebirth and arising of Dukkha. It shows when
certain conditions are present, they give rise to
subsequent conditions, which in turn give rise to other
condition, these condition arising result in the
cyclical nature of rebirths and deaths in Samsara. By
contemplating the twelve links, one gains greater
insight into the workings of karma; this insight
enables us to begin to unravel our habitual way of
thinking and reacting

Twelve dependent origination are;

Ignorance, lack of knowledge – a blind person, often
walking, or a person peering out
Conditioning refers to conditioned phenomena generally
but specifically to all mental “dispositions”. These
are called ‘volitional formations’ both because they
are formed as a result of volition and because they are
causes for the arising of future volitional actions – a
potter shaping a vessel or vessels
Consciousness – a man or a monkey grasping a fruit
Name and Forms (constituent elements of mental and
physical existence) – two men afloat in a boat
six senses (eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind) – a
dwelling with six windows
contact – lovers consorting, kissing, or entwined
pain – an arrow to the eye
Thirst – a drinker receiving a drink
Grasping – a man or a monkey picking fruit
Coming to be – a couple engaged in intercourse, a
standing, leaping, or reflective person
being born – a woman giving birth
old age and death – corpse being carried
The figure holding the Buddhist Wheel of Life:
impermanence
The fierce figure holding the wheel is the Mara, the
god of death and he represents impermanence in this
figure.

The moon: liberation
The moon in the painting represents liberation from the
circle existence or Samsara

The Buddha pointing to the moon: the path to liberation
The Buddha pointing the moon represent his teaching and
also represent he is tell all that liberation is
possible. According to a Buddhist text, Buddha once
told “I have shown you the path that leads to
liberation
But you should know that liberation depends upon
yourself.”

We hope this post brings a clearer understanding of one
of the most important wall painting in Tibet. you will
see this painting where every temples and monastery in
Tibet during travel in Tibet.

.....

Ps...in judaeo-Christian Bible 'the moon' is symbolic
of the birthing of the ManChild aka of jesus/yehoshuah
the true Messiah which is birthed out if the woman
israel/and the zodiac of virgo... with having the crown
of the 12 tribes of Israel on her head. She is clothed
with the sun..the shekinah and the eisdom of G_d within
her via pregnant with the true Messiah jesus/yehoshuah!
Jesus most likely was born during the harvest season in
fall/autumn..Dec is Israel's rainy season and far too
cold to travel for the census! Either on Rosh Hashanah
aka feast of the trumpets aka first sliver of the moon
aka head crowning at the birthing of a new babe..or
succoth/tabernacles/booth which is a happy Jewish
holiday!!... with the moon at the virgins feet..full
faced aka via full moon...so late Sept to early Oct
timeframe on the gregorian calendar.
......

I'm also hearing the word 'dharma'...which means...

dharma noun dhar· ma ˈdär-mə ˈdər- 1 Hinduism : an
individual's duty fulfilled by observance of custom or
law 2 Hinduism and Buddhism a : the basic principles of
cosmic or individual existence : divine law b :
conformity to one's duty and nature dharmic ˈdär-mik
ˈdər- adjective

Dharma - Wikipedia....
In common parlance, dharma means "right way of living"
and "path of rightness". [30] The meaning of the word
dharma depends on the context, and its meaning has
evolved as ideas of Hinduism have developed through
history.

Me here....Hm...don't dharma also mean path?...example
as in The Path taught by jesus the true Messiah and
Saviour of all mankind on planet earth ?!

K..I'm now seeing the wheel of
Fortune/Destiny/Life..tarot card X (ten) 10 biblically
means The LAW ...as in the universal and
aetheric/spiritual eternal 'Law of G_d!' It too is
signified by 'the Wheel' ...as in a cycles... and
cycles within cycles or stages/sections/decants as
well. Think of Ezekiel's vision of the angels standing
on top of the wheels before the Throne of G_d in
heaven! Aka cycles...'as wheels within wheels so are
the cycles within cycles'... both earthly and cosmic in
nature and in rulership ...by the Supreme Eternal One
aka YHWH!!!

Kk... what does the tarot cart 'wheel of fortune' aka
card X signify and mean?...more digging now....

https://www.tarot.com/tarot/cards/wheel-of-fortune

Wheel of Fortune Tarot Card Meanings....
Fundamental change is imminent. The positive benefits
you gain during this period could last a long time.
Wheel of Fortune Upright Meaning
The central theme of The Wheel of Fortune card is
cyclical change. The wheel keeps on rolling, churning
events in a ceaseless progression of ups and downs,
either way freeing us from the past. No one can escape
its cyclical action, which can feel somewhat terrifying
-- no matter whether we are rising or falling. When one
is balanced on top of the wheel, there is a moment of
crystal clarity. However, the only part of the wheel
that's actually not going up and down is the hub, which
represents your eternal self.

Every one of us will occupy all the points on the wheel
at one point or another. The cycle of the wheel is its
lesson -- and we can learn to take comfort in it. If
you don't like the look of things right now, just wait
-- things will change. Of course, if you do like the
look of things right now, enjoy it while it lasts,
because that will change too!
......

https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/major-
arcana/wheel-of-fortune/

WHEEL OF FORTUNE DESCRIPTION
The Wheel of Fortune card shows a giant wheel, with
three figures on the outer edges. Four Hebrew letters –
YHVH (Yod Heh Vau Heh), the unpronounceable name of God
– are inscribed on the wheel’s face. There are also the
letters TORA, thought to be a version of the word
Torah, meaning ‘law’, or TAROT, or even ROTA (Latin for
‘wheel’). The middle wheel has the alchemical symbols
for mercury, sulphur, water and salt – the building
blocks of life and the four elements – and represents
formative power.

On the outer circle is a snake, the Egyptian god Typhon
(the god of evil), descending on the left side. The
snake also represents the life force plunging into the
material world. On the right side rises the Anubis, the
Egyptian God of the dead who welcomes souls to the
underworld. And on top of the wheel sits the Sphinx,
representing knowledge and strength.

In the corners of the Wheel of Fortune card are four
winged creatures, each associated with the four fixed
signs of the Zodiac: the angel is Aquarius, the eagle
is Scorpio, the lion is Leo, and the bull is Taurus.
Their wings signify stability amidst movement and
change, and each holds the Torah, representing wisdom
....

https://labyrinthos.co/blogs/tarot-card-meanings-
list/the-wheel-of-fortune-meaning-major-arcana-tarot-
card-meanings

The Wheel of Fortune Tarot Card Description
The Wheel of Fortune is one of the most highly symbolic
cards in the deck, filled with signs that each have its
own meaning. At the center of the card, lies a giant
wheel, covered in esoteric symbols. There are different
creatures that surround the wheel; the angel, the
eagle, the bull and the lion. They are related to four
fixed signs in the zodiac - leo, taurus, scorpio and
aquarius. These four animals are also representatives
for the four evangelists in Christian traditions, which
is perhaps the reason that they are all adorned with
wings.

The books that each of the creatures hold represents
the Torah which communicates wisdom and self-
understanding. The snake indicates the act of
descending into material world. On the wheel itself,
rides a sphinx that sits at the top, and what appears
to be either a devil, or Anubis himself arising at the
bottom. These two Egyptian figures are representative
of both the wisdom of the gods and kings (in the case
of the sphinx) and the underworld (Anubis). They are
rotating forever, in a cycle, and suggests that as one
comes up, the other goes

Upright Wheel of Fortune Meaning....
The Wheel of Fortune turns evermore, seemingly to
communicate that life is made up of both good and bad
times, and that the cycle is one that we cannot
control. It is something that is subjected to both
kings and workers, and that nobody on earth can avoid
what is fated. When you have good moments in your life,
make sure that you enjoy to the fullest, for what comes
up must always go down. The same is true in reverse -
when you are in a bad situation, things will eventually
become better again.

The same forces that govern the changing of the
seasons, or the rising and setting of the sun is also
the master of luck and the fate of individuals.

Greater forces that are outside of human control are at
work here. The same forces that govern the changing of
the seasons, or the rising and setting of the sun is
also the master of luck and the fate of individuals.
Where it lands is as random as chance - you may find
yourself at either the top or bottom, but remember that
no matter what the outcome it may not last for very
long, for the wheel always turns. Snip...
.....

Guys I'm now hearing the song 'gods of war' by def
leppard

Gods Of War"

Feelin' like it's all over, feelin' like there's no
love
Feelin' like it's not easy, breathin' life in the dust

On a countdown to zero take a ride on the nightmare
machine
There ain't gonna be heroes
There ain't gonna be anything
Oh

Here it comes, here comes the night
Here it comes, hell in the night
Here it comes, here comes the night
When we all fall down

When we walk into silence
When we shadow the sun
When we surrender to violence
Oh
Then the damage is done
Put away that gun

I don't wanna be there
I don't wanna be anywhere
Oh

Here it comes, here comes the night
Here it comes, hell in the night
Here it comes, here comes the night

That's right
We're fightin' for the gods of war but what the hell we
fightin' for?
We're fightin' with the gods of war but I'm a rebel

And I ain't gonna fight no more no way

[Guitar solo]

On a countdown to zero
Take a ride on the nightmare machine
There ain't gonna be heroes
(Whoa)
There ain't gonna be anything
No

Here it comes, here comes the night
Here it comes, hell in the night
Here it comes, here comes the night

Don't ya know that's right

We're fightin' for the gods of war but what the hell we
fightin' for?
We're fightin' with the gods of war but I'm a rebel

And (a) I ain't gonna fight no more

(Stop)
Stop fightin' for the gods of war
(Stop fightin' for the gods of war)
Yeah what the hell we fightin' for?
(What in the hell we fightin' for?)
We're fightin' with the gods of war
Heavy


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Date: January 15, 2023 at 22:49:45
From: Mystic Wanderer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: MC Young’s Wagon Wheel Vision


Found Mc young's 'wagon wheel' dream...I can only
access the first page tho and not the full thread..,its
better than nothing tho!

Date: July 29, 2008 at 09:37:51
From: Jim
Subject: MC Young's wheel dream.
URL: http://www.tanit.us


My position is, for those who do not know, I neither
believe nor disbelieve "dreams" and "voices" seen and
heard by the population regarding the cycle of worlds,
AKA, end time. What I DO believe is that this
information needs to be challenged, and that is what I
am doing. I believe the vast majority of things dreamed
and "heard" are created by the individual and must be
sorted out. That said, I want to comment on something
Mary Young saw.

The above picture is odd, no two ways about it. What I
have been dealing with is the constellation of Orion
connected to two key dates. The last date is October of
this year and connects to a dream from 1992; a dream
that states October 2008 is when the destruction comes.
Is it right? We shall see.

Now, the event itself is undefined (I myself had only
"heard" the neutral term: "IT is coming"), but, my
first choice based on what I have seen points to what
Dr LaViolette calls a galactic superwave. You can read
about it here:
http://www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/Galactic3.html

There are a couple of Mary's pics that show "something"
coming from the south (or southeast). The galactic
center would be south of our location in the US:
[i]Regardless of the date, the galactic center stays at
its approximate declination of 29 degrees south of the
celestial equator all year round.[/i] The WHEEL pic is
coming from that direction.

Now, why a wheel? My approach says all information was
rewritten beginning about 5400 years ago, when the so-
called "goddess culture" was ousted and replaced by a
"masculine" based culture. This event was caused by the
arrival of the exact same superwave event, albeit this
one was a "minor" event. Long story short, "Orion" as
the event "warning marker" seemed to have failed and
was rewritten as the story of Osiris. Centuries passed,
the dying god became the popular version, and
everything eventually was lost. Data was replaced by
"hints" connecting "gods" to ideas like "storms" and
"thunders" and "torrential rains."

In information I have just stumbled across, it seems
there was a VERY OLD Orion culture. This culture has
left Orion remnants across the planet. One of the
connections to WHEELS that I found said:

[i]Another variation on the name was "Taranucnus" or
"Taranus"...used in Britain. Taranaich (which is very
close in pronunciation to Taranaki) is the Scot/ Pict/
Gaelic god of thunder & lightning. His name was derived
from the Gaelic word tarnach or tarna, ‘thunder’.
[b]His attribute was the spoked wheel.[/b] Taranis,
Taran, Taranus, Taranucus, Taranucnus, Taranaich all
relate to "Thunderer", the Celtic thunder god and ‘god
of heaven’. [b]His symbol was the spoked wheel and a
stylized spiral representing lightning.[/b] The wheel
was normally considered to be a sun symbol, but could
also be associated with the thunder god's chariot
rumbling across the sky.[/i]

Mary's "wheel(s)" are coming from the proper direction,
and seem to connect to something bad. The image
connects to an incoming "storm" which, if this is right
(and we don't know yet if it is), is going to literally
run us over.

Now, at this point counter arguments can enter the
picture, however, before that begins one more piece of
information needs to be weighed. People say TPTB are
creating "things" that are pointing us down the wrong
road. There are MILLIONS of "coffins" in "storage". Are
the "advanced crafts" seen in the sky "OURS" - or
"theirs"? Some say TPTB are beaming information into
our heads. In the mid-1800s there was a "poem" written
by H W Longfellow; a poem that dealt with Orion.
Longfellow painted the same picture of Orion, and ended
it with lines that just "dropped into his brain" AFTER
he believed he had finished the poem. He said:

Then, through the silence overhead,
An angel with a trumpet said,
"Forevermore, forevermore,
[b]The reign of violence is o'er![/b]"

And, like an instrument that flings
Its music on another's strings,
The trumpet of the angel cast
Upon the heavenly lyre its blast,

And on from sphere to sphere the words
Re-echoed down the burning chords,--
"Forevermore, forevermore,
[b]The reign of violence is o'er![/b]"

Whatever IT is, IT is coming. IT seems to be connected
to exactly what we are dealing with today - "the reign
of violence." The mid-1800s were LONG before any
advanced technology was created - by us. This came from
SOMEWHERE. Beliefs are going to get in the way of
interpretations of the picture. THAT is the next piece
to clear up.

You can read this here:
http://www.tanit.us/longfellow.htm

Also, the site had gone down. Allegedly some people are
not able to connect to it since it's return. If you
have a problem getting the site to come up, please let
me know and I will pass along the information.


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Date: January 15, 2023 at 23:18:59
From: Mystic Wanderer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: MC Young’s Wagon Wheel Vision


Am still looking for the original wagon wheel dream
post but did find this and it relates to the NOW
present timeframe!!!

MCYoung/Tx
MC Here: A Mid East Tapestry of What I'm Getting
« Sent to: on: Today at 01:16:39 AM »
From : M.C. Young >
Sent : Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:59 AM
Subject : Here's What I've Been Seeing For War in
MidEast and USA This goes back to 2005 and 2006

There is much going on that we are not being told but
you are correct about Egypt...trouble is brewing there.
Also in the northern areas... Lebanon,Syria,Israel...
specifically the Beqaa Valley where I'm seeing trucks
with odd poles(don't know what they are) and also
tunnels and caves with military ordinance stockpiled in
the Eastern range of the mts flanking the Beqaa Valley.
Here is a pic of those trucks sitting atop the entire
eastern range:

This drawing is now apparently CENSORED? It's all
blacked out at top. See image below under Beqaa Valley
Trucks with Poles.
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Next there are similar tunnels with tracks in them near
the Golan Heights and are being used to store more
ordinance and also Chemical WMD's. I have seen men in
Hazmat suits in these tunnels.

More tunnels are all along the Gaza border with Egypt
and Israel and even within Gaza from one location to
another within Gaza. I believe there is a tunnel either
underway or already finished into the West Bank from
the Gaza strip. It may have been there all along from
ancient times.
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The events in Gaza I saw occurring weeks ago and
simultaneous attacks occurring in Northern Lebanon near
Tripoli, Beirut, Sidon and further inland.
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I've seen military actions being prepared for war
within Syria and Lebanon while Gaza is being used as a
distraction. The targeted spots are in the Jordan River
Valley of Northern Israel and a smaller valley that
branches off towards the northwest ending at the Med
sea near Haifa.
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I've seen Turkish troops joining with Syria and Iran.
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I've seen much activity within Iran proper and battle
maps in arabic of Gaza, Libya,Egypt, Israel, Syria,
Turkey, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan,Iran, Saudi
Arabia, Yemen, Qatar,UAE, Kuwait, the Horn of
Africa(specifically the Blue Nile Region along with the
coastal areas along the Red Sea). The Aswan Dam is
strategic to what is being planned. So is the Suez
Canal.
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It is getting extremely urgent...most in the west
including EU do not have a clue how very serious this
all is. What you are getting regarding Egypt is real
and what this "civil war" within Gaza is about is a
DISTRACTION. A horrid distraction but a distraction
none-the-less. The same is true for events in Iraq with
sunnis and shi'ites and blowing up mosques, etc.
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It's all a DISTRACTION from the main events being
prepared for. This is called "Asymetrical Warfare".
Keeping the enemy off-balance with escalations of
unexpected little battles here and then there and so
on.
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In Saudi Arabia the Iranian Ahmadinejad's IRGC intends
to take Mecca and Medina even if that means destruction
of both because in so doing, they will have REMOVED the
nuclear "Failsafe" used by Israel to take them out if
they are attacked. So Egypt will have to fall into
hands other than Mubarak's to accomplish the invasion
of the Arabian Peninsula via the Red Sea.
-----------

Even if the taking of Mecca and Medina fails another
scenario is planned. This is the taking out of Damascus
and Abadan, if not Abadan then Tehran. Mr.Ahmadinejad
has implied as much by an apparent willingness to
absorb such losses, meaning Tehran or Abadan, because
he knows the whole world will see such events as being
perpetrated by the USA and Israel.

My opinion, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THIS MAN AND HIS
ALLIES.

The whole evil scenario has been SET UP to make it
APPEAR as though the true ENEMY of this Planet is the
USA, Israel, Canada, Britain, Europe and their allies.

The enemy of religious beliefs is Christianity and all
its off-shoots right along with Judaism and other
religions not fitting the politically correct stance.
And it does appear to be working quite well so far.
This is what all these DISTRACTIONS have been about all
along. The cartoon fiasco and Paris burned while Europe
rioted.

There are countless examples of these Asymetrical
tactics and today these are occurring in Gaza the West
Bank(All Israel's fault as the world sees it, and
Israel hasn't really helped that image), the civil
warring within Iraq is another example and this is of
course the USA's fault and we certainly haven't been
much help as a nation in that area either. No mind that
many of these insurgent attacks are being carried out
by Iranians under the command of Ahmadinejad.
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The ultimate goal is not nor has it ever been about
Oil(although the issue of oil is being used as
leverage). It is about ushering in the Mahdi and Mr.
Ahmadinejad has said as much even to the world in his
speeches to the United Nations. What does it mean to
usher in the Mahdi?

From the best I've gathered from studying this, It
means a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT ruled by Mr. Ahmadinejad's
brand of ISLAM. This is the ultimate goal. This man and
his followers and his Supreme Theocratic Leaders are
seeking to bring the world under Sharia Law. If they
are successful then people will be given a choice,
convert to Islam and Sharia Law or be executed. We've
already seen small examples of this with the British
hostages who had to "convert" before they were allowed
to be let go.
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If one stands back and looks at the whole picture
rather than focusing on the details(which are the
disractions or brushfires)then the picture becomes
quite clear. The issue of Mr. Ahmadinejad's western
hemisphere alliances I have not even touched upon but
be assured they are part of this whole picture as well.
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I could of course be all wrong but this has been coming
in for two years now and recently almost non-
stop...this information may not be exact but I believe
it is very close....it has been hard NOT to post it but
like I've said I didn't want to be feeding the
terrorists so they could post it on their websites like
has happened before with my dreams.

Okay, whew! That's it and I would like to hear what
your thoughts are on these things
peace and
God bless
mc
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79244


Date: January 18, 2023 at 12:14:28
From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: MC Young’s Wagon Wheel Vision


It’s amazing to me how right she was & others on here. This is quite
the treasure trove Mystic. Thank you.


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79239


Date: January 15, 2023 at 23:40:43
From: Mystic Wanderer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: MC Young’s Wagon Wheel Vision


Kk..weirdthought just now...red flag symbolic of
War...star symbolic of the star of Bethlehem.. the star
signifying the birth of a new king/messiah which is
actually jesus's star ahonein the night sky to harold
his birth/arrival to earth via virgin woman birth.. and
the Cresent moon...moon symbolic of the messiah.... who
is actually jesus/yehoshuah btw!...who reflects the
wisdom of G_d Almighty.interesting if jesus was
actually born at the first sliver/Cresent of the moon
re 4osh Hashanah aka feast of trumpets!

So in essence the flag symbol above is in actually the
counterfeit of the real thing!..the real event which is
jesus/yehoshuah who is the REAL MESSIAH AND SAVIOUR OF
THE WORLD/EARTH in pics/symbols on that red flag with
star and cresent!!! Iguessin Jesus's case the
redcolourcsnmeabs several things...atonement,war and
judgement/wrath.

Also written on the dome of the rock reads G_d has no
son...boy are is that very wrong on that account!
people are being duped bigtime! I know in actuality the
total opposite!!...G_d definitely has a son/protégé and
his son's name is jesus/yehoshuah in hebrew! I know
jesus..not just about jesus..biggy difference
here..ones an actuality..the other is um...hearsay or
historical accounts and also thoelogy. I prefer the
real thing...the real deal...the actuality and
experiential one on one physical encounter myself
personally...I'm not into myths or fairytales!

Sometimes the Truth hurts but it does also bring
clarity as well...when the dust finally settled!


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