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Date: September 03, 2022 at 16:37:41
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Book, Roger Waters


Words upon waking from nap this afternoon 03sept22. FWIW

"...publishing a new progressive book. We'll begin with
Roger Waters."

That is all.
Had no idea who is Roger Waters. Had to look him up.


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Date: September 03, 2022 at 20:44:53
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Book, Roger Waters


Pink Floyd, smart guy. I've posted about him and his
remarks about the previous wars and the war in Ukraine.
Made these posts on Music/Art as it related his views
and experience about this subject within his music and
sharing being an activist with his music.

Date: April 08, 2022 at 14:18:21
From: pamela
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd/Hey Hey Rise Up (feat. Andriy
Khlyvnyuk of Boombox)
URL:
http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/art/messages/11298.
html
I posted this by Roger Waters some days ago, March
15th.
Its great the Ukranians get the support. But what he
says
about it must be understood.

heres the first post
Date: March 15, 2022 at 23:43:55
From: pamela
Subject: Roger Waters - UKRAINE(singing the Gunner's
Dream)
URL: https://youtu.be/S0aLALNmX_Q



((New respect for Roger Waters. !!!! ))
👍💖🤗💗🦋

With one caveat from me, I m so glad Roger made it
clear, it is not all cut and dry, and he can see there
are neo nazi's involved in this war against Ukraine.
But he doesn't stop there. And has the guts to tell her
whats what of this God awful war machine.

A NOTE FROM ROGER REGARDING UKRAINE. BUT FIRST, A NOTE
FROM ALINA:

Hello!
My name is Alina Mitrofanova, I am 19 years old, and I
live in Ukraine. Today my country is resisting the
Russian invasion and the real war started by Russian
president and led by Russian army.

I am a huge Pink Floyd and Roger Waters fan, and it was
very important for me to hear Roger's opinion on this
whole situation. It may not seem as urgent and
critical, because this war can be considered as only
"our problem", but unfortunately it rapidly becomes a
catastrophe for the entire Europe and world.

The war started 11 days ago, and everyday we hear
sirens that signalize about bombs thrown by Russian
occupants. Russia's aggression destroys MY country,
kills hundreds of innocent adults and children in MY
country, and I cannot explain how many Ukrainians are
forced to leave their homes and run away from this
madness. Ukrainian Eastern cities are being destroyed
by Russian army, hundreds of thousands of people are
evacuating and becoming refugees, and their number is
increasing every minute. I'm in pain, as many other
Ukrainians, because it hurts a lot to see how MY
country becomes a military target for Russia and its
mad leader, who's convinced that there are "neo-Nazis",
who have to be killed. It's absolutely false, because I
live here, and I can tell 200% that there are no such
people there!
I ask Roger to speak publicly about this war, because I
still cannot understand how a person, who wrote a
significant number of anti-war lyrics, hasn't spoken
about tragedy yet. Furthermore, fully understand that
Roger's point of view may be different, but I ask him
to share his own opinion on this war. It's better than
just being silent, because in this situation, silence
is one of the worst enemies - it's impossible to build
a wall in this situation and stay isolated from this
problem.

I'm 95% sure that this letter will not be delivered to
Roger directly, and it would be just a miracle if a
have an answer. However, a man who speaks about risks
of nuclear catastrophe and about the senselessness of
the war cannot be silent in this situation. Tell the
world your position!

Best regards from Ukraine,
Alina Mitrofanova

---

Dear Alina,
I read your letter, I feel your pain, I am disgusted by
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, it is a criminal mistake
in my opinion, the act of a gangster, there must be an
immediate ceasefire. I regret that Western governments
are fueling the fire that will destroy your beautiful
country by pouring arms into Ukraine, instead of
engaging in the diplomacy that will be necessary to
stop the slaughter. Rest assured if all our leaders
don’t turn down the rhetoric and engage in diplomatic
negotiations there will be precious little of Ukraine
left when the fighting is over. A long drawn out
insurgency in Ukraine would be great for the gangster
hawks in Washington, it’s what they dream of, “playing
the game” as they do, ”with the bravery of being out of
range” I desperately hope your President is not a
gangster too and that he will do what is best for his
people, and demand of the Americans that they come to
the table. Sadly however, many world leaders are
gangsters and my disgust for political gangsters did
not start last week with Putin. I was disgusted by the
gangsters Bush and Blair when they invaded Iraq in
2003, I was and still am disgusted by the gangster
government of Israel's invasion of Palestine in 1967
and its subsequent apartheid occupation of that land
which has now been going on for over fifty years. I was
disgusted by the gangsters Obama and Clinton ordering
NATO's illegal bombings of both Libya and Serbia. I am
disgusted by the wholesale destruction of Syria
initiated, as it was, in 2011 by outside interference
in the cause of regime change. I was disgusted by the
invasion of Lebanon in 1982 when the gangster Shimon
Peres connived with the Christian Phalangist Militias
in the murder of Palestinian refugees in Sabra and
Shatila refugee camps in the south of that country.

I feel for you Alina, and your Mum and Dad and your
uncles and aunts and brothers and sisters and cousins,
I lost both my father Eric Fletcher Waters and my
grandfather George Henry Waters in wars fighting the
Germans.
Please believe me when I tell you that I believe in the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights signed in Paris
1948. I have fought as hard as I know how to foster and
support human rights for all my brothers and sisters
all over the world for as long as I can remember, and I
support you and yours now, with all my heart.

Speaking of gangsters, I do have to take issue with you
about one thing in your letter, your “200%” belief that
there are no Neo-Nazis in your country is almost
certainly mistaken. Both the Azov Battalions in your
army, the National Militia and C14 are well known self-
proclaimed Neo Nazis groups. They are gangsters too.


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