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77428
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Have a piece of pizza.......
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hmm, last nights dream: there was this woman making lots of pizzas, hand made crusts which looked handmade and lots of different sizes and fillings.I remember a big table filled with them but there were people lined up to get one. I had wanted one too but she told me they were all taken for. so I went out and in front on a table was a big pizza, with long slices, so I got one and ate it and wanted another but a Lion came up and grabbed it and took off with it. I went after the lion and was trying to get the piece of pizza away from the Lion but was unsuccessful and the lion went off with it. I told this to one friend and she said, to her it meant I wanted 'peace'....for myself and would fight for it. but of course I am also thinking 'pizza-Italy'? and the Lion is the lion of Judah-Israel? and of course, the food being grabbed up by lines of people my bespeak of coming need for food because of a shortage of it??? any input? I know it could be personal but also could have much more in the interpretation. :-) |
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77438
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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hi kay, I have other thoughts that may connect to your dream...that is the LONG slice of pizza maybe was not the sum total of the "long island" which came to mind on account of the hurricane happening going in that direction. It may be more so the LONGest war that of Afghanistan seemingly continuing on LONGer as unforgiving was announced today by Biden regarding recent events in Afghanistan....I feel that the connection is Jesuit and Italy factors in that way as headquarters. Here is link to post from NB ties into that I figure others may not believe that so much yet I do feel it's Jesuit central events happening behind the scenes (link has the image of the crazy plane stuff at Kabul airport with U.S. number 1109 on the side of the plane): http://earthboppin.net/cgi-bin/talkrec.cgi?submit=lt&baseurl=http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national&msg_num=396389 Another thing is that the Sun is still in constellation Leo the lion and will be there until September 16th. So there is another timing connection with 09-11 or as it is presented in the U.K. as 11-09. This also reminds me of my dream about a Maltese kitten I had during Jesuit Joe Biden's inauguration. I will maybe bump that in the orginal thread as pamela and I had a short discussion revolving around the meaning which seems to be possibly manifesting now. There is a copy of that thread below with Maltese kitten which relates to your big cat (the one in charge of the little Maltese kitten). I thought to look up Vatican Lion as I was typing this and what came up first is about The Canova Lions a pair of sculpted figures in front of the Corcoran Art Gallery in D.C. (another Italy connection): The Canova Lions, located in front of the Corcoran Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C., are copies of a pair of lions sculpted by Antonio Canova in 1792 for the tomb of Pope Clement XIII in St Peter's in Rome. ... The originals were sculpted from marble; these were cast in bronze from molds of the originals. Artist: Antonio Canova Location: Corcoran Gallery of Art, Washington, ... Canova Lions - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canova_Lions  Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: January 20, 2021 at 17:58:46 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Blue Maltese Kitten I tossed and turned all last night and got up early today...about 11:30am I felt sleepy so I laid down and made up for last night by sleeping several hours. I kept dreaming of a blue-gray maltese kitten, I even got up and went to get some water, laid back down and dreamed of this kitten again. It was a stray and came out from under some bushes and I fed it and took it inside to be a house cat....My stepfather who is now deceased who lived in Virginia was in the dream also and some other guy I don't know who was a rude homeless auto mechanic. There was another cat also in the dream but less dominant, it was a black and white adult cat. Not sure but maybe this in part has to do with the island of Malta as many of these blue-gray colored cats are on the island of Malta hence the name. I had two of them as pets in my youth and one of them was when I lived in Virginia where my stepfather was so maybe that is why he was in the dream....Or there is some other symbolism like the Knights Templar and the state of Virginia named after Queen Elizabeth I, or maybe even the constellation Virgo. ---Maltese cat - Wikipedia: Many cats with such colouration are supposedly present on the island of Malta, which may have given rise to the use of the adjective in this context. There are several cat breeds that always produce blue or gray fur, of whom the adjective may be used. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_(Freemasonry) --------------------------------------- Date: January 21, 2021 at 13:55:18 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Blue Maltese Kitten From previous dream interps by Matteo-- cats in dreams usually symbolize missile's, taken from the mythology symbol of Sekhmet, the cat/lion, fire....explosions, Maltese meaning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross The Knights Hospitaller during the Crusades used a plain Latin cross. Occasional use of the modern form straight-edged "eight-pointed cross" by the order begins in the early 16th century. This early form is a cross moline (ancrée) or cross branchée ending in eight points, not yet featuring the sharp vertex of the modern design. The association of the eight- pointed cross with the southern Italy coastal town of Amalfi may go back to the 11th century, as the design is allegedly found on coins minted by the Duchy of Amalfi at that time.[1] ((part of the Jesuits, defending Catholic church)) and have taken the oath... and you know what that oath is. for your step dad, deceased, try looking up the meaning of his name.. homeless rude auto mechanic maybe in connection with whose going to be blamed black and white means "transformation" whether thru good or evil means and again another cat, ==Sekhmet. Fire -explosions, signifying dangerous explosion/missile's Virginia is also home to military, who runs the military?? in Virginia? mind control, what other clandestine going- ons in Virginia?? First thought is lots of shit there, including, former vice prez, Cheney who seemed to run the "show" during Bush's presidency than Bush. This is I am certain, a clear warning. ------------------------------------------ Date: January 22, 2021 at 10:33:12 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Blue Maltese Kitten Very helpful, thanks pamela. I looked up the meaning of my stepfathers name and it is an oxymoron....part of his name means peace/dove and part of his name means war/Mars. hum... Something that seems peaceful on the surface but is hiding something war like as in explosive (?) ------------------------------------------ Date: January 22, 2021 at 13:42:03 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Blue Maltese Kitten Thanks, well that makes sense-- under the guise of peace/dove, they are very hateful in wanting everyone to be their religion and if we don't we get killed.. that is part of their oath. They are allowed to lie, cheat, kill, war, destroy nations and people who do not bow to their version of love and they've been doing it for centuries. You had a whopper of a dream warning there. ---------------------------------------- Date: January 22, 2021 at 15:30:36 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Blue Maltese Kitten They delight in destruction of all sorts and their peace is fake. ---------------------------------------- Date: January 21, 2021 at 14:16:32 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Blue Maltese Kitten URL: https://mythology.net/egyptian/egyptian-gods/sekhmet/ Sekhmet, goddess of war, fire and dance |
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77437
From: Chet, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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It's the crust, paisano. If it's not hand tossed, fugheddaboutit. The garlic must be placed on the tomato for you margherita fans. Place the garlic on the cheese it tastes bitter. |
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77429
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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The lion stole your second piece/slice of the pizza pie (which may have a connection to the saying (see link). https://www.dictionary.com/browse/slice-of-the-pie More incoming as I type this I thought to look up songs regarding pie or piece of the pie ...something like that... and as I thought about this the song "Miss American Pie" by Don McClean came to me. Next I looked up "pizza pie" to share in my postand then then the song mentioned in in the article regarding American pizza Pie resonated more being it's a full moon right now. I copied and pasted article below with link and song + more. As I go to post this I thought to look up an image with NY pizza and then I remembered the LONG SLICES in your dream and Long Island, NY came to mind. So it may be a connection with your dream, the full moon + tides and Hurricane Henri (?). https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-henri-20210821-vhfr5wfyuzgj5cs2mfcvvxs2la-story.html And yet more flowing in as I type this regarding slice of the Big Apple (ie. NYC). I thought to find a reference to pizza and big apple (NYC) and found this ad at link for Big Apple Pizza and Pasta: https://slicelife.com/restaurants/fl/hobe-sound/33455/big-apple-pizza-hobe-sound/menu Currently the Sun is in constellation Leo near the star that marks the heart of the lion (Regulus or Little Prince) as Earth and Full Moon + Jupiter are in the opposite part of the sky being that of constellation Aquarius. Mars and Mercury are also in constellation Leo...Leo is latin for lion.There might be a portal or gateway inference in this. The star Regulus/Little Prince brought to mind Prince Harry for me....I skimmed an article today where his grandma Queen Elizabeth II regarding Harry and Meghan so this may further involve the the lion in your dream being that the nine lion's rampant on the coat of arms of Queen Elizabeth II. New York was named after the Duke of York...the current Duke of York is Prince Andrew who is under investigation regarding matters related to Jeffery Epstein. If memory serves me correct there was some accusation of Prince Andrew whose alibi was that he went to pick up pizza for his his daughters birthday party but she did not remember it. Prince Andrew is another "little prince" or Regulus heart star. That star is quite interesting btw and it is a star I have been led to watch in spirit...the 2017 Great American solar eclipse of August 21st happened while the Sun was near this star from Earth point of view (can be observed via solar telescope or SOHO). ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Queen orders senior Palace aides to plan legal fightback after Prince Harry and Meghan's hurtful attacks https//www.thesun.co.uk/news/15930851/queen-legal-fightback-harry-meghan https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9044879/Prince-Andrews-sex-slave-alibi-falls-apart-Explosive-dossier-blows-hole-Pizza-Express-excuse.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_York  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_coat_of_arms_of_the_United_Kingdom I could think of more but have to take leave for now, may post more later. ~Eve ---Why Is Pizza Called Pie? All About The Other Name For Pizza--- Written by Tom Hambly in Pizza Facts Pizza and pie are occasionally used interchangeably in recipes and other media. But why name something after another dish? Where did it all come from? You can find all about it here. So why is pizza called pie? Pizza was first called pie when Italian immigrants arrived in the United States in the late 1800s. Pizza had similarities to a pie – with a crust, sliced triangle portions and its circular shape. Italian-Americans sold and popularized the pizzas, and the exotic dish picked up the English name “tomato pie”. Sometime thereafter the languages met in the middle to give us the term “pizza pie”. It might be common phrase to you, or you may only have just seen it used… But I bet you can recall the use of pizza pie by Dean Martin in his 1953 hit “Amore” – “When a moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that’s amore”. Let’s take a look how we got here. Where Did It Come From? It’s extremely likely it came from New York, with many Italians settling there and introducing the dish. New York has the first written accounts of the word, and also the first pizzeria. One of the earliest uses can be found in an article from the New-York Tribune printed December 6th 1903. The journalist has grouped the new, unfamiliar dish along with pies, like many New Yorkers would have done – “the Italian has invented a kind of pie”. You can see it was called a “pomidore pizza” back then, with pomodori being Italian for tomato. Whether it be a preference to create an English term for the dish, or the fact that it was so similar, you can see how the phrase “tomato pie” was likely to come about. A notable figure at the time was Gennaro Lombardi, aka the father of American pizza. He had a grocery store in Manhattan in 1897 and started selling tomato pies to workers at lunch time. He sold pizza by the slice, and wrapped it up to take out, and it became a popular and convenient spot for lunch. And from there, New York would start its craze for sliced pizza. In 1905 he was granted a license to start a restaurant, and this is known as the first pizzeria in the United States. It is still run by his grandson, and the pizza is still cooked in a traditional coal oven. Although it’s a common misconception that pizza translates directly to pie, it doesn’t. Pizza is used only to describe pizza in Italy and no other pie like dish. There is more on the Italian origins later down the article. What Does The Word Pie Mean When Referring To Pizza? Pizza pie is simply pizza and doesn’t refer to a specific type of pizza – even thin crust can be called a pie. But where it does matter is when used to refer to the amount of pizza. When referring to a pizza, the word “pie” or “pizza pie” is often used to describe the whole pizza. As opposed to just one piece, which is more often called a “slice”. Pie is often used in New York where pizza is a noun which has an unknown commodity, in the same way as something like water. You wouldn’t order water, but a bottle of water. And so with pizza, you would order a pie, or slice. This basically translates to a “pie of pizza” or “slice of pizza”. If you just said “a pizza” or a “piece of pizza” it doesn’t make sense there. Some examples might be when you use it to order pizza – “I bought two whole pies last week, but just a slice today” You might use it as an extra noun to describe a whole pizza – such as “I cooked a 14″ pizza in my oven, it was a beautifully cooked pie”. Who Calls Pizza A Pie? The use of the word pie with pizza is solely in the USA, and specific regions at that. The full phrase is more common in older generations of Italian-Americans. Now the term pie is used more on its own as a slang for pizza – as in “I’ll take two pies to go” Even in the USA there is different usage, with the north east coast having the most common usage, particularly New York. Some Americans haven’t even heard of the term. Pizza pie never really took off outside of America – that is perhaps why people get confused if they hear the term pie when talking about pizzas as a pie usually has pastry. Does Pizza Mean Pie in Italian? Contrary to what many believe, pizza does not mean pie in Italian. Pizza is its own thing and is its own dish, so you wouldn’t use pizza to describe an actual pie in Italy. There are other words, such as torta or crostata, which are used to describe pies of sweet or savory filling – but pizza would never be used for these. The word pizza is used only to describe this one dish. So Where Did Pizza Get Its Name? Language takes many influences over the years and so the origins of pizza have become blurred, leading to multiple viable sources. The word pizza is likely to be linked with “pitta” from Greece – the round flatbread which can sometimes contain toppings. The Ancient Greek word “pikte”, meaning “fermented pastry” became the Latin word “picta” which fell into Italian hands. Or maybe it was from the word “pizzo”, meaning “moutful” from Lombardic origin, when they invaded Italy in the 6th century. The first record of the word “pizza” was in a Latin text dated 997 AD where it stated the bishop of the Italian town Gaeta, was to receive duodecim pizze or “twelve pizzas” on Christmas Day and Easter Sunday. Other Pizza Names Around The World Pizza is perhaps the most popular food in the world. The humble and staple food from Napoli conquered the globe with many variations. The term pizza is used commonly throughout most of the world. There is only a few slight differences which are very similar to the original pronunciation such where it is spelt or pronounced like “pitsa”. In Vietnam it is called bánh pizza – and bánh actually translates to cake or pie, so you can see the American influence there. ->History And The Use Of The Words Pizza In The United States So the word pizza is a very old word but remained encapsulated in Italy until fairly recently. The early 1900s saw the first shops and pizzerias in New York and New Jersey, but it wasn’t until the second world war that pizza truly took off. American soldiers deployed in Italy brought tales of the tomato and cheese pie which they encountered overseas. It was the combined affect of returning soldiers and Italian immigrants in the US which really brought pizza into the mainstream. Pizza was eaten mostly by Italian immigrants and their descendants between the late 1800s and 1940. After World War 2 it became more widely consumed. In 1943 the Chicago deep dish pizza was invented. By 1953 it was popular enough to feature in Dean Martin’s Amore, and in 1960 it was featued in an episode of Popeye the Sailor. The rest is history and pizza grew to become one of the USA’s most eaten food, with the growing number of pizza chains and fast food outlets. Pizza Hut was founded in 1958 and Domino’s in 1960 to become the biggest chains. Research tells us 13% or around 1 in 8 Americans eat pizza on any given day. Pizza Vs Pizza Pie This chart shows the Google Books Ngram of the two phrases. This shows the yearly count of “pizza” and “pizza pie” found in sources printed from 1800 to the present. You can see that pizza pie has never been near as popular. It had a slight rise in the 1990s but is dropping again since. It’s interesting to see the rise in popularity of pizza straight after the start of World War 2. -->Where Did Pizza Come From? The origins of pizza can be claimed by many nations. With the Chinese, Middle East and Europeans all serving round flat bread like foods with cheese and toppings. However, the pizza that we commonly know today came from Napoli – it was a working class meal for the people who lived there. Napoli is an industrial port, and the wives of the port workers and the street vendors would prepare tomato pizzas for the sea workers – and this is where the “marinara” came from. These would be folded up and eaten easily without a knife and fork. The toppings were sparse so that the meal could be economical, simple and probably last longer. It was in 1889 when the Queen of Italy, Margherita of Savoy, came to Naples to try the pizza. Pizzaiolo Raffaele Esposito created a pizza with tomato, mozzarella and basil to symbolise the national flag. It was a success and the Margherita pizza was born. --Is Pizza American Or Italian? The pizza that we know today definately had its roots in Italy. A simple marinara or margarita or else topped with what ever ingredients were available to working class Neapolitans. And this was just the start of the wide variety which can be found world wide today. But it was when it was brought to America it was reinvented and then re-exported around the world. Much like other things like hamburgers and other foods, the USA took it to a new level, from bigger toppings and bigger companies. So while Italy was the birth of pizza, the USA most surely has its own style which has its own stamp. --So Is Pizza Considered A Pie? They share some similar traits – both have a crust, both are round and are cut into slices. Although pies usually have pastry as a key component – so the idea has some flaws. The consensus is that pizzas aren’t actually pies, but that is just the name that has stuck. Most sources claim that the term is ageing and becoming less common, with older Italian-American generations using the term the most. Whether it is considered a pie is down to the place and context. If you are in east coast USA then the term would be easily understood as a pie. Anywhere else in the world, particularly outside of the United States, and a pizza is not usually considered a pie – so you might not get what you asked for! Related Questions What is the difference between pizza and pizza pie? They are the same food. A pizza pie often references the amount of pizza when ordering. A whole pizza is referred to as a “whole pie”, otherwise a piece of pizza is called a slice. This is found most commonly in New York. What is the difference between tomato pie and pizza? This can depends on regional differences. Although tomato pie commonly has a thick, rectangular, chewy base like a focaccia and is covered in quality crushed tomatoes as it is the main ingredient. It can be finished with a sprinkling of hard cheese such as Parmesan or other Romano cheese, and olive oil. Pizza also has many varieties but is usually round, has a larger crust, and has more toppings such as mozzarella and pepperoni. --Tom Hambly https://www.crustkingdom.com/why-is-pizza-called-pie/ misc. https://eportfolios.macaulay.cuny.edu/rosenberg14/pizza-culture-3/  |
77430
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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WOW! thanks Eve....that is a lot of input!! strangely enough, just as I was posting this, that song(the moon hits your eye) came to my mind too! :-) Last night as I went out to lock up my car, I stood out there and marveled at the almost full moon and seeing the stars, and even saw a satellite on its path ( I think that was what it was). It was so high up and looked like a star but was moving slowly on a path. Anyway, that connection with england/royalty/etc had not been in my mind. some of my crests from ancestors had the lion in many of them too. Thanks again, gives me much to ponder. |
77552
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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kay, I don't know if this means anything but when I read the news today about Gabby Petito's funeral being held in Long Island, NY I was reminded of your dream and how for me I noticed connections/references in your dream and the hurricane Henri that was happening at the time linking to Long Island...maybe it's the timing, maybe not. |
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77431
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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greetings kay... your dream is so interesting along with the timing I appreciate you shared it with us. I just thought of something else which may or may not factor in with my interpretation incoming thoughts about your dream.... Prince Harry's birth name is Henry (ie. Henri) which may imply something significant also for the west coast in terms of timing (ie. Hurricane Henri) being that the west coast U.S.A. is his current residence, (Montecito, California)...maybe not but it came to mind. Henry/Henri means "home ruler". Monticeto means "litte mount" Regulus means "little prince" Another thing comes to mind as I pen this and that is Prince Henry of Wales infers the red dragon. https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/The-Red-Dragon-of-Wales/ |
77433
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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hmmmmmm more synchy Eve, a person in our family has a father with the last name 'Henri' and I was remarking that the hurricane is being called 'Henry' when the correct pronunciation, being 'Henri' is french way, is sure not pronounced as 'Henry'.... isn't it interesting how some seemingly simple dreams turn out to have so much depth to them. This has been my noticing my dreams a lot, simple, fast, but mean a lot. thanks again..:-) more input, cool |
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77434
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
URL: https://charlies-names.com/en/henri/#:~:text=Meaning%20of%20Henri,rich%2Fmighty%2Fruler).
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hi kay, I did notice that earlier regarding the pronunciation from a clip from NOAA so I looked it up the various pronunciations and spelling. It just so happens I have family after the flesh with the surname of 'French'...it's curious how things connect sometimes. |
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77432
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Have a piece of pizza.......
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More incoming regarding your dream kay...took awhile to come to me but another song I stretched for in my memories was from the t.v. program of yore "The Jeffersons" with the the lyrics "piece of the pie" ....The setting shown in the intro song at is New York City...the intro song is at link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHDwRECFL8M The tv. program "The Jeffersons" was a spin off all "All in the Family". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jeffersons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Jefferson The Jeffersons theme song lyrics" Well we're movin' on up (movin on up) To the east side (movin on up) To a deluxe apartment in the sky. Movin' on up (movin on up) To the east side (movin on up) We finally got a piece of the pie. Fish don't fry in the kitchen; Beans don't burn on the grill. Took a whole lotta tryin' Just to get up that hill. Now we're up in the big leagues Gettin' our turn at bat. As long as we live, it's you and me baby There ain't nothin wrong with that. Well we're movin' on up (movin on up) To the east side (movin on up) To a deluxe apartment in the sky. Movin' on up (movin on up) To the east side (movin on up) We finally got a piece of the pie. source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/thejeffersonslyrics.html I have lots of memories of New York City as I lived in New Jersey for a couple of years and visited New York city a number of times....Also worked with a lot of folks who resided in or used to reside in New York City as well as neighboring New Jersey. I have several neighbors in Florida who used to reside in New York City also. |
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