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Date: September 26, 2023 at 16:30:18
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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and airing out ... bravo ... after all it is your play
house
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 21:46:44
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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thanks for your support david!
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 16:34:22
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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Nothing is getting ‘aired’ out. Nothing will change.
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 09:20:43
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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the change is here ... as long as the main board is
closed for business we cannot hack at each other day
after day ... that seems like a good thing to me ... no
controversy is better than a dog fight over some stupid
bone that is worthless
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 10:39:42
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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So u recommend closing the boards down for good? I do find it
interesting the libs are mum about it.
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 21:23:38
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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impeachment trial starts tomorrow, libs preparing themselves lol
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 11:32:15
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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Um...naw (moderate-left here, but guessing you consider
me a "lib" lol) will be doing more house projects like
painting, weatherproofing and caulking.
I've seen no indication of anything other than extension
of the circus already going on. I'm sure if that
changes, I'll read about it in the news.
Beautiful day out there today. Too pretty to spend it
inside, glued to the clown show.
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 14:07:59
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: What Happened to Your Narcissistic Trolling, Tracking &... |
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...itemizing of my posts? I bet you still are
fully and gleefully engaged in what you
yourself called your "hobby".
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 15:49:16
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What Happened to Your Narcissistic Trolling, Tracking &... |
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But, of course!...in fact, taking a lunch break and will
get right to that:
*Tallied!
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 12:40:03
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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you think you are a moderate lol
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 11:50:35
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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You finally admit your posts are a clown show. Lol.
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 10:20:24
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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yes, don't want a bit of that news on deck ... they are
trading insults as I write this
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 15:02:01
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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lol....I'm just fine. I've been at the county fair
having fun with friends working at a community service
booth and doing other things.
Also...almost done with the front porch painting! yay!
(needed a lot of sanding and a little repair).
What have you been doing with your spare time? Something
fun, I truly hope.
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 12:26:47
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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I had nothing to do with closing the main board but I
think is works fine ... too much to disagree on ... no
consensus on anything ... should we have another uncivil
war in society ... they already sow chaos
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 13:33:32
From: Rog , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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People should be able to disagree without all the insults and attacks.
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 13:25:27
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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From over here it looks like you miss the point. If there is one at all this is
how I see it..
To say there should be peaceful discourse, my idea compared to your’s, is
to say there’s enough common ground that the two ideas in some way
coexist. Which is contrary to what I see. It is also to imply an element of
trust in both parties, sides, for each other. With acknowledgement of some
sort of boundaries, and a set of rules, some sort of normalcy, that no longer
exist.
From over here, it looks like one side, the Republicans, figured out they no
longer need to play by any other rule other than to win at all cost. That the
structure of government, the agreements, the promises, no longer apply to
them. That the over 200 years that we have evolved a pattern, expectations,
societal norms, no longer matters. And the truth is defined, not just is,
because it’s the truth, nope. Now, with over 60 courtrooms, and the election
was clearly not stolen, and there wasn’t even a hint of actual anything, and
yet the Republicans foist this nonsense about a stolen elections on us. In
other words they are trying to force an alternative, false, reality on us.
So, no there is no possible discourse that would depend upon a shared
respect for folks like Comer and Jordan. A shared willingness to comb
through it all with an eye towards believing in any of it. There is no way,
none, zip, that those jokers have any reason to be respected, listened to,
taken seriously, at all. Period. They are trying to destroy all we depend upon,
so what’s to discuss?
As it is, from here, the GOP is an enemy. And not one that is anywhere close
to being ready to negotiate a surrender. And that will be the only thing
worthy of discussion. When they give up their lies, and the use of lies to
gain and control government, then we can discuss something. Until then,
there is nothing to discuss, at all, other than how to protect ourselves from
the harm the GOP is trying to inflict upon us.
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 19:16:18
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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sounds like someone won’t be cooling off or being civil
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 14:29:38
From: Nicola, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
URL: https://fox40.com/news/national/ap-us-news/ap-presidential-centers-issue-joint-statement-calling-out-the-fragile-state-of-us-democracy/amp/ |
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Someone shared this very interesting joint statement
from 13 Presidential libraries that would be worth
reading and considering.
Presidential centers from Hoover to Bush and Obama unite
to warn of fragile state of US democracy
GARY FIELDS, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Concern for U.S. democracy amid deep
national polarization has prompted the entities
supporting 13 presidential libraries dating back to
Herbert Hoover to call for a recommitment to the
country’s bedrock principles, including the rule of law
and respecting a diversity of beliefs.
The statement released Thursday, the first time the
libraries have joined to make such a public declaration,
said Americans have a strong interest in supporting
democratic movements and human rights around the world
because “free societies elsewhere contribute to our own
security and prosperity here at home.”
“But that interest,” it said, “is undermined when others
see our own house in disarray.”
The joint message from presidential centers, foundations
and institutes emphasized the need for compassion,
tolerance and pluralism while urging Americans to
respect democratic institutions and uphold secure and
accessible elections.
The statement noted that “debate and disagreement” are
central to democracy but also alluded to the coarsening
of dialogue in the public arena during an era when
officials and their families are receiving death
threats.
“Civility and respect in political discourse, whether in
an election year or otherwise, are essential,” it said.
Most of the living former presidents have been sparing
in giving their public opinions about the state of the
nation as polls show that large swaths of Republicans
still believe the lies perpetuated by former President
Donald Trump and his allies that the 2020 presidential
election was stolen. Trump, a Republican, also has
lashed out at the justice system as he faces indictments
in four criminal cases, including two related to his
efforts to overturn the results of his reelection loss
to Joe Biden, a Democrat.
Thursday’s statement stopped short of calling out
individuals, but it still marked one of the most
substantive acknowledgments that people associated with
the nation’s former presidents are worried about the
country’s trajectory.
“I think there’s great concern about the state of our
democracy at this time,” said Mark Updegrove, president
and CEO of the LBJ Foundation, which supports the LBJ
Presidential Library in Austin, Texas. “We don’t have to
go much farther than January 6 to realize that we are in
a perilous state.”
Efforts to suppress or weaken voter turnout are of
special interest to the LBJ Foundation, Updegrove said,
given that President Lyndon Johnson considered his
signing of the Voting Rights Act his “proudest
legislative accomplishment.”
The bipartisan statement was signed by the Hoover
Presidential Foundation, the Roosevelt Institute, the
Truman Library Institute, the John F. Kennedy Library
Foundation, the LBJ Foundation, the Richard Nixon
Foundation, the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Foundation,
the Carter Center, the Ronald Reagan Presidential
Foundation and Institute, the George & Barbara Bush
Foundation, the Clinton Foundation, the George W. Bush
Presidential Center and the Obama Foundation. Those
organizations all support presidential libraries created
under the Presidential Library Act of 1955, along with
the Eisenhower Foundation.
The Eisenhower Foundation chose not to sign, and it said
in a statement emailed to The Associated Press: “The
Eisenhower Foundation has respectfully declined to sign
this statement. It would be the first common statement
that the presidential centers and foundations have ever
issued as a group, but we have had no collective
discussion about it, only an invitation to sign.”
The foundation said each presidential entity had its own
programs related to democracy.
The push for the joint statement was spearheaded by
David Kramer, executive director of the George W. Bush
Institute. Kramer said the former president “did see and
signed off on this statement.”
He said the effort was intended to send “a positive
message reminding us of who we are and also reminding us
that when we are in disarray, when we’re at loggerheads,
people overseas are also looking at us and wondering
what’s going on.” He also said it was necessary to
remind Americans that their democracy cannot be taken
for granted.
He said the Bush Institute has hosted several events on
elections, including one as part of a joint initiative
with the other groups called More Perfect that featured
Bill Gates, a member of the board of supervisors in
Arizona’s Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix. The
county, its supervisors and its elections staff have
been targeted repeatedly by election conspiracy
theorists in recent years.
Gates and his family have been threatened by people who
believe false allegations of election fraud.
“We wanted to remind people that those who oversee our
elections are our fellow citizens,” Kramer said. “Some
of them told stories that are almost heartbreaking about
the threats they faced.”
He said he hoped the joint statement would generate wide
support, but he added: “It’s hard to say whether it will
or not in these polarized times.”
Melissa Giller, chief marketing officer at the Ronald
Reagan Foundation and Institute, said the decision to
sign on was a quick one. The foundation was approached
shortly after it launched a new effort, its Center on
Public Civility in Washington, D.C. She said the
statement represents “everything our center will stand
for.”
“We need to help put an end to the serious discord and
division in our society,” Giller said in an emailed
response. “America is experiencing a decline in trust,
social cohesion, and personal interaction.”
Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to former President
Barack Obama who is now CEO of the Obama Foundation,
said the former president supported the statement.
“This is a moment where we could all come together and
show that democracy is not about partisan politics,” she
said. “It’s about making our country strong, making our
country more decent, more kind, more humane.”
Jarrett said one of the foundation’s priorities is
trying to restore faith in the institutions that are the
pillars of society. To do that has meant taking on
disinformation and creating opportunity where “people
believe that our democracy is on the up-and-up.”
She said Obama has led a democracy forum and is planning
another later this year in Chicago.
“I think part of it is recognizing that we are very
fragile right now,” Jarrett said, citing the fact that
“we didn’t have a smooth orderly transition of power in
the last election” along with people’s mistrust of the
court system and elected officials.
“The wheels on our democracy bus,” she said, “feel a
little wobbly right now.”
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 17:01:01
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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yes, I agree, it has gotten more egregious over the
years and it is not sporadic either ... certain ones do
no like my message so they snidely whiplash me with
abuse and some posts against some individuals are
heinous ... in the old days that would not fly at all
... ad hominem is the lowest form of debate ... they
tend to go for the throat when the have no rebuttal to
cold hard facts ... but still they twist and turn like
vipers in a pit ... sorry ... but that is how I view
some of them ... but this is just my opinion here on
"Tech Support" ... the new surrogate family board where
we sit around the campfire and tell stories
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 18:49:10
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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well you do put a lot of crap in your messages georg...lol...
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 19:35:42
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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oh, so this is where we bicker now? no thanks, I just
state opinion ... and you say I'm not even entitled to
that? you should maybe shut them all down if that is
still your attitude ... lol
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 20:31:26
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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now that is the first valid point you have offered up in a while!
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 08:41:53
From: karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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ok .. so lets go there ..
exactly why are you shutting down national? Is it
Nicola? If so, why? If not, whom? I for one, would
like to know.. you have given us no explanation ..
people did respond to personal attacks and you said
there were none so whats the problem..
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Date: September 28, 2023 at 10:19:20
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 18:21:54
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I love it ... it is just what this place needs ... cooling off |
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