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Date: February 09, 2023 at 15:38:54
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: There is a trolling and personal attack issue on International(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:56:16
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dan is a Liar (NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:50:34
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: relevant thread |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/tech/messages/9153.html |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:31:16
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: After all, according to Liar Dan's link: |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national/messages/419969.html |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:20:38
From: Me aghan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Attila Akirova is a Barbarian BULLY! |
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It is common knowledge that you push the anti- American/Russian Propaganda Playbook, as many of your posted authors' articles...such as Hersh in his obviously well-timed piece laying a wildly fabricated scenario other than on the actual "bad actors"' motivation to claim victimhood to elicit the world's condemnation of the US...and away from themselves.
Your continued protestations speak volumes as to YOUR own motivations...a likely deterrent from being seen as a like-minded adversary, rather than just a radical poster with questionable motives.
Hersh has become a self-promoting seeker of America-bashing accolades, resorting to outright fabrication, or utilizing one single 'lone wolf' 'anonymous source', as he is wont to do.
Nobody said you use anonymous sources, but that you "gleefully" post propaganda pieces by those who do. No LIE!
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 15:11:58
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Attila Akirova is a Barbarian BULLY! |
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hey dumbo, you seem to share reading comprehension challenges with others here.
Here's Liar Dan's quote in the 'relevant thread':
"You have posted many yourself LOL"
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 17:44:47
From: Me aghan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Attila Akirova is a Barbarian BULLY! |
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Well, I can't blame you for taking offense at his reference to the many times you have posted your boy David's virtually anonymous self- 'founded', "The Lever" (levernews) website, which apparently no one? ever heard of, since the only search results for that site are multiple results for levernews.com, and all of its many iterations.
Sirota is still milking his Bernie gig...more 'laurels-resting', I see...but then there's a lot of that going around, with your choice of 'exposé' reporting, by Hersh, et al, with a distinctly biased edge, mostly hostile to American policy not up to your own ideas which are in line with certain writers' very overt mischaracterizations, misinterpretations or just plain fabrications, with the obvious purpose of stirring the pot for controversial impact.
Posting "anonymous sources" includes by indirect means...in which you excel! While Hersh insists his 'source' MUST remain anonymous...it's more likely that it's HIS OWN imagination! Not to mention his need for ego-stroking in the later years of his career. Kind of a gamble!
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:12:02
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: All I ask is that you admit I don't use anonymous sources! |
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why is it so difficult for you to admit you lied about it?
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:18:24
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: and that you LIED about me(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:28:17
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: More personal attacks on international |
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http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/4 9933.html
http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/4 9934.html
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:03:01
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/49936.html |
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http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/4 9938.html
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:04:05
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/tech/messages/9216.html(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:49:44
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: deal with your own lies, Dan - stop deflecting(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:44:02
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: admit you lied, Dan(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:29:39
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/tech/messages/9217.html(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:31:28
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/49934.html(NT) |
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 05:41:58
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national/messages/419899.html |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national/messages/419899.html |
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Date: February 09, 2023 at 18:38:27
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: But you're allowed to come here and lie about me? (NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:33:40
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Please take another vacation |
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It was so pleasant here without you
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:40:06
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: why not just improve your posting skills dan? |
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...respecting other posters would be an excellent place to start.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:46:44
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why not just improve your posting skills dan? |
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He doesn't even need to respect me. Just admitting he lied about me & that he was in fact the poster who used an anonymous source would suffice.
I'll keep reminding him. :)
If Bopp doesn't approve he can ban me. :)))
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:53:27
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why not just improve your posting skills dan? |
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...banning is kind of like admitting failure. Much better to up our game and show a little more respect for all the skills we do have.
It's the childish games that are so destructive.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:07:05
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why not just improve your posting skills dan? |
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Bopp's unwillingness to call Dan out on his lying & for Dan's use of an anonymous source is adequate evidence of failure. Bopp's selective apathy is a slap in the face to those of us who have cared about this site. I've always valued the need for identifying sources, as I though he did, until he didn't. I've appreciated & followed those rules.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:29:34
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Bopp's " dilemma|" is how to rise above the fray... |
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...while still joining us in the mud bath.
My experience has been that it's more important for the "moderator" to stay out of the mud and maintain an environment conducive to growth for all the participants, including the moderator.
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Date: February 09, 2023 at 19:00:31
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Retract your lie & I'll stop calling you a Liar, dan(NT) |
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 05:44:24
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I don't think that's up to you |
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Bopp has rules about personal attacks. Clearly you don't think they apply to you.
This is at least the third time you have tried to run me out of here, because your ego is so fragile.
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 06:45:17
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: lie or tell the truth - it's 100% your choice, dan |
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But as long as you refuse to admit you lied about me below, I will continue to call you out for it. God knows, Bopp isn't going to.
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 10:45:10
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: lie or tell the truth - it's 100% your choice, dan |
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sorry, i don't pay that much attention to those shenanigans these days...i think it is for the two of you to work out...usually when there is disagreement like you two have, it is because you see something in the other that you know is in yourself and you don't like it...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:27:49
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: lie or tell the truth - it's 100% your choice, dan |
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With all due respect, I don't think you want me responding to akira's personal attacks in the near future.
You know full well that akira has a habit of launching personal attacks against anyone who disagrees with her agenda. This is another extension of this behavior. As I noted in one of my posts, there are few who have escaped her wrath at one time or another. Her current behavior is a detriment to these boards, stifling meaningful and thoughtful conversation. Maybe you didn't notice the difference in national or international when she was away.
http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/4 9924.html
http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/4 9899.html
http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/international/messages/4 9900.html
I will only take so much before I begin defending my self
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:43:51
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: maybe all of us should just act our age for a change... |
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...third grade was nice but hardly relevant in today's' atmosphere.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:55:13
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "I will only take so much before I begin defending my self" LOL!(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:48:41
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Tell the Truth, Lying Dan(NT) |
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 12:13:34
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: lie or tell the truth - it's 100% your choice, dan |
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oh bullshit, Bopp. You pay attention when you want to. All you need to do is read the thread below. Dan specifically accused me of doing something I literally never do. I've been posting here for years. The fact that you're unwilling to back me up is so fucked up. What happened to you? If you really don't care about people literally lying about other people around here, what do you care about?
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 13:10:31
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: lie or tell the truth - it's 100% your choice, dan |
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 20:28:21
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...you've been doing the "important stuff" for over 20 years Bopp... |
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...maybe it's time to do it "better"...
...before we all lose the chance this time around.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 05:09:29
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you've been doing the "important stuff" for over 20... |
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He doesn't care about abusive behavior unless it's from someone who pushes his buttons. Then his 'standards' kick in. Everybody's got blind spots except Mr. Bopp. After all this time, you'd think he have much more self awareness than he apparently does.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 05:31:24
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why don't the two of you create your own Forum? Seriously! |
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It would be such great fun to witness... ;)
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:47:11
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: why not just improve what we already have? |
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...after more than 20 years you'd think we'd all have a better handle on this ongoing nonsense.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:03:30
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why not just improve what we already have? |
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Yes, Nevada, I would think you WOULD know better than to keep berating the owner of a Forum you frequent, trying in this nonsensical, juvenile way to shame him into running it the way you would prefer…after *more than 20 years*…then trying to sell that someone calling you on this is promoting the nonsense…
But hey…you continue your spin game, I’ll continue catching them as they come…lol…
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:15:58
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why not just improve what we already have? |
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"But hey…you continue your spin game, I’ll continue catching them as they
come…lol…"
Me too!! :)
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:52:19
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: and here's what I mean... |
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Like you, I am tenacious. As long as someone here blatantly maligns, lies about another poster here, the entire community is effected, ESPECIALLY when that community chooses to remain silent. Aside from that, enforcement of fair play can no longer be an expectation. Trust is gone.
here's a hypothetical for ya:
nevada posts and uses an anonymous source (which has been verboten on earthboppin' like forever) .
You, shadow call him out for using an anonymous source.
He not only refuses to acknowledge & retract his bad source, but instead turns around and accuses YOU of using anonymous sources. Which you have never done in the your history of posting at earthboppin.
What would you do?
a.) ignore the situation entirely.
or
b.) request a correction, retraction of the the accusation towards you.
If no acknowledgment/correction was forthcoming, would you
a) have some expectation of the board owner/moderator to rectify the situation in some way or
b) continue to ignore the situation entirely.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:22:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: and here's what I mean... |
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Gosh, akira...this hypothetical from you kinda takes my breath away... Wow... Using Nevada and I as your examples completely displaces its context out of reality, as our territory of differing is much deeper...lol...but I think I can answer you anyway...
The only time someone failing to cite a source for something they post would generate anything at all from me would be A) if it were habitual or B) if what the post was claiming was potentially monumental in its impact one way or another, regarding some issue or reality so important to me that anything claiming to factor into it carried that much weight...
Akira, to me it comes down to this: No one can control the words or thoughts or values or choices of another. You can't make Ryan align himself with exactly what you're uniquely experiencing with Dan, nor can he claim to have bottom-line-factual-truth knowledge of what was said in the exchange between you without hours of searching archives...which, somehow, I just don't think will come into his plans. You're asking him, and all of us, to "side with" you in this...in effect, just believe you over Dan, conclude that "akira would never lie, so Dan must be*...and, if we don't, you're deeming us dishonest. That's fucked up.
What if this is just human error? What if Dan forgot to cite a source, and is somehow remembering or misremembering your having done the same? What if he's right? What if you're right? While as a fellow human being I do care about your feelings, and what you're experiencing...and integrity & honesty is very high on my list of priorities and values...it's hard to not wonder, when considering it in context with such realities as human error AND human nature's little spazzes, what's really at the core of why determining this is so deal- breaker crucial to you?
You'll never "prove" whether or not truth was told, whether untruth was intended or not or simply a spazz... I do realize I'm relentless as well, but I'm genuinely concerned with how this is, for you, why whether or not you can get satisfaction around this carries this weight...? Because you won't!
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 11:51:59
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: and here's what I mean... |
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You conveniently ignored the issue of his lying about me, accusing me using anonymous sources. You clearly misunderstand the situation, which could be easily remedied by reading the actual thread below. You refuse. I'm not wasting any more time with you.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 11:59:32
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: and here's what I mean... |
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And what about answering my questions for clarification? from the post subject The Statement.
I did read the whole thread of that day. Did Dan “accuse” you on a different thread? In this one you start calling him a liar.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:01:41
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Ah, the Queen of Truth has arrived! |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/tech/messages/9153.html |
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I don't owe you a bloody thing. Who do you think you are?
It stems from a thread here on the tech board, down below. Go do your own reading if you've got such an insistent need to involve yourself.
I still recall the time you accused me of lying on the National board only to be proven you were wrong. You didn't have the class to admit your mistake then, and you haven't changed a bit.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:12:35
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ah, the Queen of Truth has arrived! |
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So you refuse to bring the proof yourself to this board? Are you saying now that you started calling Dan a liar here on tech and then transferred it to his posts on National about Hersh? I will be searching for those posts.
It should be noted I did not attack you but in your manner, you have attacked me, calling me names, and also have brought up your old accusations that I already have proven were untrue. Proven With facts.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:28:41
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Ah, the Queen of Truth has arrived! |
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dear lady, I gave you a link to the thread. If clicking on the link is too much trouble, just use your cursor and go downwards on the screen. It has not scrolled off yet. I cannot force you to read it. Dan knows exactly what this is about.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:40:17
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ah, the Queen of Truth has arrived! |
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The link leads to a Blindhog post, not something you posted. Does she speak for you now? I have yet to find any post where Dan accuses you of posting unsourced info. Isn’t that what you are accusing him of?
Show me that. Because as much as I have scrolled, I have not found it. Here on tech. On National. Or on International. I do not understand why you don’t stand up for yourself with the proof. People usually immediately show proof for themselves. Please clarify.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:53:29
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: omg |
URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/tech/messages/9153.html |
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Read the entire thread. Read what follows blindhog's post.
I am sorry if you are confused, but you'll have to read the thread yourself.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 14:31:08
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: omg |
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This was from jan6 and on?!
So now it is clear…
You are the one who introduced the anonymous sources theme. Dan responded to it. Laughed. You responded to it. Laughed. Then…the vendetta began and you have called Dan a liar on three boards starting on Feb. 9…
Date: January 06, 2023 at 09:22:06
From: blindhog 6th sense
Subject: This Just a Personal Observation
It seems a sensible, mild mannered, thoughtful poster
on the National Board is being allowed to be
"personally" attacked with impunity by a poster who's
said she's alway remembered being filled with hate, a
poster who was told by another poster she should
consider theory, a poster who regularly uses the
keyboard to create childish sideways winks and grins as
sarcasm,
I guess personal attacks are ok long as the offending
poster is on your political "team".
Date: January 08, 2023 at 05:32:48
From: akira
Subject: & anonymous sources are now acceptable
For everyone or just a chosen few? We'll see.
Date: January 12, 2023 at 13:19:01
From: Dan
Subject: More Akira Grievance
You have posted many yourself LOL
Date: January 15, 2023 at 14:51:43
From: akira
Subject: When have I used an anonymous source?? Accusation without evidence let alone, many?
You're so full of shit, dan. lol
So the “sensible, mild mannered , thoughtful “ poster akira ends up projecting from early and mid January into a Feb thread where Hersh has used an anonymous source with no verified sourcing in an article and people called Hersh on it. And you call Dan a “liar” all over the place while sometimes using swearing for emphasis? And then you moan and groan about it and cause all this chaos on Boppin? While also bringing up your vendetta on me and attacking me again because I chose to speak uptoday? What kind of thin skin do you have akira that you cannot/do not step up for yourself with clear sources to prove your own innocence but rather stir the pot with attacks on others? Give us a break!
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:18:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why not just improve what we already have? |
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I'm not spinning anything, akira...and you know it.
Lower and lower....lol....
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:36:09
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I'm not spinning anything, akira...and you know it. Mirror anyone? |
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How come akira can see in "you" what you seem to see so well in "others", but yet can't see in yourself?
Might be ego, might also be your unwillingness to understand we're all in this together and to respect that for what it is.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:46:35
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I'm not spinning anything, akira...and you know it. Mirror anyone? |
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Annnnnd....it MIGHT just be nothing but your latest empty wordspin that you imagine to be a substantive response...lol... ;)
Akira sees exactly nothing of me, Nevada, nor do you, nor would I expect either of you to; your own choices of focus and trajectory put you in a whole different universe than mine...
You can't even seem to grasp that it's you from whom all the support for disinclusive fascist/dictatorship shite comes...not me... How do you manage that, hon? lol Yes, we ARE all in this together, Nevada. I more than respect that for what that means. You have none.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:55:07
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...do you have a "source" for this shadow? |
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You can't even seem to grasp that it's you from whom all the support for disinclusive fascist/dictatorship shite comes...
I'm not sure "where" it's coming from, but I doubt very much if it's a place either akira or myself would want to hang out.
Why do you keep going there?
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:25:04
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...do you have a "source" for this shadow? |
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Can you think of a more inane line, Nevada? lol
I've gone there because it's become pretty notable how similar your styles of expression have become...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 03:44:42
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And maybe it's time for you to STFU and grow up... |
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The only thing anyone save, oh, a choice few, sees you doing here is acting like a child, relentlessly hammering at the host of a Forum who does things in a way *you don't like,* and imagining that if you hammer at him hard and often enough, he'll actually.......wait for it......."come around to doing things as you'd prefer"........
WTF is the matter with you????? You are one of the most attacking and alienating posters here, though I'm catching up to you in my process of holding a mirror up to your face trying to show you how you're the constant initiator of the very same attacking energy you turn around and accuse others of...
You keep thinking your attacks from rightwing idealogies are successfully hidden within your spinwords. They are NOT. Then when people have at you in return...you do this shite. And while Bopp's endless patience keeps allowing you to run that BS, I'll always be here holding that mirror, pal...
It's beyond ridiculous. Even more to imagine you might actually, you know, be an adult and maybe create your OWN damn Forum out of your self-righteous indignance... But no, it's so much easier, and more fun for you, to play this "sealioning" role here... How incredibly childish...
Too bad rightwing views don't have anything upright and substantively humane and just within them! You wouldn't have to resort to such tactics, you could just hold forth from them outright without sounding savage...
...but then come to think of it, you'd probably still retain that style...it offers you the illusion of superiority you can't do without, that's the core reason you do all of this...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:02:14
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I'll always be here holding that mirror, pal... |
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...one of the first things an adult learns is not to respond in kind when the game turns negative.
That's why I keep going back to building respect and upping our game as adults.
Holding up a mirror is always good advice if you're willing to act on your own excellent observations.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:15:27
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I'll always be here holding that mirror, pal... |
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Oh, that word adorable is good...lol...
Like so many of your flips, this one doesn't hold water, either.
You said, "Holding up a mirror is always good advice if you're willing to act on your own excellent observations."
One more time, lizardman.
What I'm holding a mirror to, by giving back the same attacking, negating energy that rightwing beliefs and their supporters wield, is to make it abundantly clear that *RIGHTWING EVERYTHING IS, BY ITS VERY NATURE, AN ATTACK*. An attempt to normalize and legalize domination and control of one group of humans over all others. So all the whining and sniveling rightwingers then come up with in response to having it shot back to them is clearly revealed to be as patently absurd as if one child walked up and hit another child; the other child hit back, and then the one intiating the hitting screams, "HEY! NOT FAIR! HE HIT ME!!!"
Revealing the true nature of where and why an energy originates, and what lies behind it, has never been more crucial to our times, Nevada... Rightwing intentions are nothing but domination and control, and I will show that up in whatever level of wattage necessary, no matter how cleverly those promoting it imagine it to be justified, and/or obfuscated. What I'm doing IS different than hair- trigger purposeless reactivity -- no matter how hard you must try to make it fit your strategic equation...lol...
"Building respect and upping our game as adults" -- while you still support and advocate for inhumane, dictatorial, religious/fascist idealogies, you show you literally have zero comprehension of what those words even mean.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:41:54
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...this is how "wars" start and grow out of control shadow... |
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...tit for tat doesn't cut it at our age.
Thus saith the lizardman.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:52:58
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...this is how "wars" start and grow out of control... |
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No, lizardman. Wars grow from one faction of humans stating they have the right to dominate and decide the fate of another faction of humans...how much freedom, rights, dignity are "due them"...
THAT is how it begins. The responsibility for the war is on those who begin it by trying to dominate another.
Whether those being dominated can "hit back," i.e. refuse to allow those dominating to do so, in ways that are peaceful...with words, perhaps very strong ones, that somehow awaken the attackers hearts to the truth of what they're doing...or whether there's no choice but to take up arms *for the sole purpose of DEFENDING, guaranteeing their rights and freedoms are not dominated by them any longer,* is a very different scenario than "tit for tat" verbal jousting on a forum board, Nevada...
But of course...you'll do your best to bring it back to the less-complicated, less-inclusive-of-all factors equation you have to stick to...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:23:28
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: probably belongs on National shadow... |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:09:18
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I'll always be here holding that mirror, pal... |
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shadows absorb light, they don't reflect it. She can only reflect what she is.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:16:58
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I'll always be here holding that mirror, pal... |
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Whoa!!! *WOP* Such clever wording! What a blow!!!!
lolololololol
You're a riot, akira...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:55:28
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: no smily face? |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:26:02
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....(is this enough? Want some more? lol)(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 11:23:57
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: childish troll(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 13:26:56
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: childish troll(NT) |
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And "No smiley face? ;(" was *not* childish trolling.......yeah, okay.......
...lol, cc...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:49:17
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: You're a riot, akira... probably preferable to "starting riots"... |
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Blaming others for your own inconsiderate rantings rarely ends as well as you might hope for.
A hand grenade does the same damage rather thrown by a republican or a democrat no matter how much you try to sugarcoat your intentions.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 05:01:06
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: please STFU yourself |
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You remain completely silent about dan's blatant lying about me. If it were Nevada or chatillion doing this to you, you'd be OUTRAGED. So please just shut the fuck up, for a change.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 05:28:50
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: please STFU yourself |
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No, I don't think I will, akira...even after your telling me to. Imagine that.
I have never followed you and Dan's exchanges often enough and with enough continuity to imagine myself sufficiently informed/qualified to offer any kind of informed comment regarding what's gone on between the two of you.
What I have to say about Nevada, and his m.o., and what I have to say about both he and cc's support of rightwing fascist idealogies, has nothing to do with what's happening between you and Dan, which is completely personal. You claim he's lied when he says you've posted anonymous sources. He says he hasn't lied. Other than it being possible for Mr. Bopp to go back over every post you've ever made here, if that's even possible....how exactly do you expect me, or anyone, to do anything BUT remain silent?
Or is this similar to back when you chastised Mr. Bopp for allowing the likes of *wildly ranting me* to remain, when he'd banned cool, intelligent, rational Jim? ;) That your superior intellect and judgement and manner of truthseeking should immediately translate to Bopp acquiescing to your own viewpoints over his own, when it comes to how he moderates his site?
This is all so sad.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:46:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: please STFU yourself |
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The fact that you support dan's lie about me posting anonymous sources (which I have never done) in his effort to deflect from his own anonymous source posting reveals what a dishonest person you are. Zero respect. Good riddance.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:00:54
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: please STFU yourself |
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Seriously, akira? This is what you got out of what I said???? Whew, I feel a little dzzy...lol
Good riddance? Where did I suggest I was leaving?
I support Dan's "lie"? What I said was that I had no way of proving anything one way or another...and that, you spin-translate into my supporting "Dan's lie"... Wow, I'm even more accurate than I thought, seeing you and our Nevada as excellent potential partners in running a Forum!
I'm not a dishonest person, akira.
And your estimation of the concern level people here have whether they have the great gift of your *respect* may be just a wee bit off...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:27:17
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: why are you even in this thread? |
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It had absolutely nothing to do with you. You just had to insert your toxic spew into the mix. Couldn't help it, huh, shadow? Just can't resist, tho you have nothing constructive to contribute... just more shade.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:18:31
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...excellent observation akira... |
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...the irony is that you, of all people, have figured out that the best way to "grow" in understanding in life is to research and post new "information" for others here to consider.
The problem arises when some people here attack not only the information, but the poster as well.
The fact that the average participant here can no longer respect that time proven process is what has lead to this moment.
We seem to be more concerned about feeding and minicuring our "egos" than in involving as intelligent and better educated members of society.
The irony is that if we don't up our game here, we are going to be less effective in reacting to the incredible and very real challenges arising currently in the world at large.
I appreciate your contributions here akira and hope they will continue to add balance and substance to EB for some time to come.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:58:01
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...excellent observation akira... |
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I always feel gross after coming to this site... so much dysfunction. And zero moderation anymore.
But thanks Nevada.
I'm going to go have a Sunday! Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:33:20
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Yeah, me too. ;) |
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But unlike yourselves, I see our moderator as doing an exemplary job being faced with all this...myself, included in this instance...
Putting this much time and energy investiture into sparring with those you know are too deeply committed to opposing and negating you, from their own agendas that were written long before you crossed their paths is...well, what it is.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 09:30:43
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...excellent observation akira... |
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Honestly, you two... Both of you imagine that the undercurrent agendas running beneath *both your trajectories* in what you post isn't just as transparent and obvious as it is...
Nevada, you advocate rightwing fascism and dictatorship in ways that scream from between the lines of nearly everything you say...so, speaking of credibility, nothing of humane, respectful, mature dialogue is possible with you. Ever. None of your words that claim to aspire to more mature contexts of dialogue, exchange, understanding ring true... The beliefs you embrace betray you...
Akira, you imagine that by calling out what you've deemed Untruth (or what appears as hypocrisy) literally *everywhere it lies, without bias,* puts you at "the top" of truthseeking and closest to The Biggest-Picture Highest Truth of Everything. It's way, WAY more complicated than that...and anyone who has the gall to suggest that to you is met with arrogant disdain, that they'd think to question your superior intelligence...
Both of you, pffft...lol..
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:01:10
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...excellent observation akira... |
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I'm sorry you feel inferior, shadow. Remember, it's just a feeling.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 10:27:17
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Yep! More and more like Nevada...more & more childish...)(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:29:33
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why are you even in this thread? |
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It has everything to do with me, and everyone here.
Steady on, akira...you're sounding more and more like Nevada with every post... ;)
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:52:36
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why are you even in this thread? |
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your constant somnambulistic smily faces are really bizarre...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:57:30
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why are you even in this thread? |
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…lower and lower you go……………..
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:25:03
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: that's lower than telling someone to STFU? |
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 13:09:23
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: never mind - I give up - lie all ya want dan(NT) |
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Date: February 11, 2023 at 20:29:59
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...never give up akira... especially not now.(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 03:45:10
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...lol...(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 05:03:50
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: what is your problem? |
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you come across as jealous, bitter and brain dead.
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:32:47
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Anyone who disagrees with akira gets attacked |
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one of many case and points
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:47:21
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: where's your evidence that I've posted anonymous sources, Liar Dan?(NT) |
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 05:29:43
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what is your problem? |
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Jealous of....what, exactly? *eyebrows* lol That's quite a stretch, ma'am... ;)
Bitter? Hm....there, you may have a point, although I'd characterize it more as having had long, long history with oppressive, abusive mindsets, which comes through as a certain...oh, *burning, smoldering* intention to do everything I can to ensure that that being writ large in this country doesn't succeed any more than it has already, and will rewrite where it already has... Other than that, not sure what you mean...
Brain dead? Oh, well! Of course! lol Held in comparison to your obviously superior intellect and most-accurate sensibilities around Truth, what else could I be, I ask you? lolololol
Oye...
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 06:53:14
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what is your problem? |
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I take it back. You're clearly an extremely honest, incredibly evolved, positive, kind, compassionate, wise, gentle, tolerant and forgiving human being. It's so obvious. ; )
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:01:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what is your problem? |
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Whoa! *smack*
*panting* Whew, might take me awhile to recover from that incisive sarcastic blow........
...lolololol... ;D
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:13:41
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it's perfectly fine... |
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for you shadow, to insult & ridicule people here all day long, but god forbid you find yourself on the receiving end! lol :)
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:06:29
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's perfectly fine... |
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Shadow does no such thing.
NOW who's lying??
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 08:10:27
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why can't you just admit you lied, Dan? |
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Why can't you admit it was YOU who used an anonymous source, instead of accusing me? WHY?
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Date: February 12, 2023 at 07:20:39
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's perfectly fine... |
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No, not "people," akira, a select few, and for the specific strategic reasons I've already explained several times: Because rightwing views ARE ATTACKS, and I'm responding in kind, to make a point. Sharp points. You disagree with my doing so, no worries; it's Mr. Bopp's call on whether that's acceptable, not yours.
And...what's this? lol I didn't even protest your insult, only offered my lighthearted response toward your imagining such snide words could touch me... ;D But hey, you go ahead and act like I had some issue with "being on your receiving end"... By all means, have at it! lol I think it's...*adorable*... ;)
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