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9108


Date: November 27, 2022 at 21:39:07
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


...you know the times are-a changing when there are
more posts...


...on WOWS than on National...

...probably a good time for some of us to show more
respect and maturity for a change.

It seems that the more I suggest a more respectful and
considerate approach to posting here, the more I get
"attacked", and in some cases, actually banned.

The "spin meister" is how some describe my "sincere"
approach to smoother and more meaningful
communications.

I actually "respect" all of those posting here, even if
I may disagree with what is sometimes said. I don't
know the actual numbers, but I suspect fewer people are
taking the time to post here than in the past,
especially those that may hold more conservative views
but I also see a lot of more liberal posters sitting on
the bylines. Perhaps ryan can tell us if that is true or
not.

While I understand that millions of dollars invested in
negative political ads may sway elections, it seems
rather out of place in forums like EB that seek a
slightly more mature approach to the search for
enlightened and sincere conversations.

Just my thoughts...

...would love to hear from others, especially those that
may not be posting here as much as they used to.

Nevada/Lee


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9137


Date: December 05, 2022 at 15:02:56
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


A matter of overwhelming Ring Pass Not syndrome.
It has infected all the boards.
'My way or no way, idiots.'
Who'd want to play in that game?

Over and out.

I hope this finds you and yours well, Lee.
CC


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9138


Date: December 05, 2022 at 15:46:02
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


Nope!

More like: Basic humanitarian (Constitutional) rights and
freedoms for All first, friends. Its relentless momentum
toward realization is what's infected a lot more of these
boards than, say...oh, 3-4 years ago, praise be. ;)

Who'd not want to play that game? Oh wait! We know who. ;)

Hope you're well, cc. Over and out. ;)


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9135


Date: November 28, 2022 at 20:34:38
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


an echo chamber doesn’t value respect or maturity. get with the program
or get the f out


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 21:11:43
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


...perhaps EB has become like the canary in the gold
mine...

...an indication of times to come.

What will we do when we get to the Pearly Gates and are
told by the Angels "we" are welcome but the "garbage" we
carry has to be left behind...

...that may be an interesting choice for some of us to
make.


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9142


Date: December 22, 2022 at 14:06:36
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: More Like "1984" Come to Life.(NT)


(NT)


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9113


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:12:55
From: karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


I wouldn't want to be the cause of people leaving ..

No one is here anymore - I have wondered why .. Some
just leave and don't bother to say why .. I certainly
have from time to time .. I didn't notice a change when
I did leave for a month or so ..

I certainly do give them plenty of room for discussion
.. perhaps that's a bad thing .. I find opinions
interesting .. They are a reflection of where people are
in their lives and how they react to others...


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9139


Date: December 14, 2022 at 17:41:48
From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


It is the intolerance of some to be objective. Humanity
is in big trouble & its time for all to wake up....
Please wake up. Humanity is loosing big time. I say
NOT IN MY WORLD!!!


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9115


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:25:11
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...


"They are a reflection of where people are in their lives
and how they react to others..."

That would be my observation as well Karen. Sometimes we
forget that others have meaningful life paths as well
that eventually work out just fine.

It shouldn't matter whether you are democrat or
republican...

...it only matters who you really are.


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9109


Date: November 28, 2022 at 05:43:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Nevada, this is one of your best bullshit spins ever.

You wouldn't know "respectful, considerate maturity" if
it bit you. Your OCD tactic of screaming the exact
opposite of all those energies between the lines of your
self-righteous and/or victimesque spin epics...extolling
the virtues of rightwing views, supporting dictators and
their mindsets while calling yourself a liberal, coming
here and writing this schlock about how "far we have
fallen" and how far less people come here because...wait
for it...someone's meeting you verbally where you live,
and you don't like it...encouraging those like yourself
who've left, to return and support your shite...

...****k you and the lizard you rode in on...


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9111


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:07:40
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


I took a rare trip outside Nevada for thanksgiving and
found myself listening to an old friend, KVMR Community
Responsive FM out of Nevada City and Kat's Grass Valley.
To verify what I am saying here you can find KVMR at
kvmr.org and judge for yourself.

The young woman broadcasting live was pleasant,
passionate, and an excellent communicator... did I
mention positive? After about an hour of music, she
took a break and described what Thanksgiving meant to
her and her family. Never was there a hint of sarcasm
or putting anyone down for their beliefs. I was close to
tears by her sincerity and ability to clearly
communicate what this day meant to her.

She spoke from her heart. It was the same "spirit" and
heart that I first heard and respected on KVMR when the
station went on the air in July of 1978 with an all
volunteer staff and a loving spirit. I am going to
suggest she is the third generation of broadcaster to
grace KVMR's studios and still epitomizes the stations
"original" respect for their fellow broadcasters and the
northern California communities they continue to serve
after some 44 years on the air.

KVMR is what is known as "eclectic" radio:
ec·lec·tic
/əˈklektik/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
1.
deriving ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse
range of sources.
"universities offering an eclectic mix of courses"
Similar:
wide-ranging
wide
broad
broad-ranging
broad-based
extensive
comprehensive
encyclopedic
general
universal
varied
diverse
diversified
catholic
liberal
cross-disciplinary
interdisciplinary
multidisciplinary
all-embracing
nonexclusive
inclusive
indiscriminate
many-sided
multifaceted
multifarious
heterogeneous
miscellaneous
assorted
selective
selecting
choosing
picking and choosing
discriminating
discerning
critical
Opposite:
narrow
dogmatic
2.
PHILOSOPHY
denoting or belonging to a class of ancient philosophers
who did not belong to or found any recognized school of
thought but selected doctrines from various schools of
thought.
noun
a person who derives ideas, style, or taste from a broad
and diverse range of sources.

KVMR has grown to 700 volunteers, 150 of which are
community broadcasters, evenly split between male and
female and representing as many different viewpoints and
perspectives.

The one thing they share in common is a respect for each
other and to bring out both the best in each other and
the 40,000 listeners they serve around the world.

Would it be asking too much for Earth Boppers to show
some of the same respect and compassion for humanity?

This endless tearing down and disrespect for fellow
posters serves no useful purpose and only holds us all
back from our greater potential.

Is that asking too much?


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9122


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:59:46
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


I think not too much to ask Lee. Common sense applies.



We all could be better if one applies ‘To each hi/ her own’.

When we all STOP listening to each other as where/ when the problem
sets in.

IMO I have plenty of family that are liberals but in our hearts we still
show love to each other. It’s not all that hard.


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:03:41
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


I guess it's easier to be hurtful sometimes Kat.

I honestly don't get it but the harder I try, the more I
seem to offend.

What's missing here?


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9125


Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:19:28
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Playing dumb with a sideslap zing won't help you sell your
victim shite either, pal, save to those few your antics
serve...

Fascinating...when someone can't help but know the
curtain's been drawn on his littleman behind the curtain,
yet he continues pulling at the (verbal) gears, his words
still flailing, as if everyone doesn't see his game is
up... So similar to Trumpists! ;-O


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9127


Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:02:05
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Why so bitter so much of the time when it comes to "me"
shadow?

What would I have to say to be your friend?


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9129


Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:14:56
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Bitter? Nah. ;) I've explained in great detail the stance
I'll always take with you, Nevada, as well as exactly why
I do so, quite a few times now...though this act of it
being all *oh so bewildering* to you is no surprise,
given the phenomenon of your refusal/incapacity to
HEAR/LISTEN to what's being said to you...

And here you go now, suggesting there's *something you
could say* that'd magically open a door to friendship
between us.

That's perhaps most revealing of all. You can't *say your
way* out of, or into, anything or anyone, pal, if your
saying rings hollow... ;(




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9131


Date: November 28, 2022 at 13:29:01
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Yogananda used to speak of beholding the one in all...

...why would anyone not be friends living in that
reality?

Sooner or later we'll all come to realize we've always
been on the same page.


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9114


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:18:34
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Well, that's a lovely story, Nevada, about people who
know the meaning of genuine respect and celebration of
All People...

I suggest you keep reflecting on it! Perhaps at some
point you will absorb and integrate at least some measure
of those meanings, so those who read your words claiming
these values as your own will feel some actual substance
of experiential wisdom within them, rather than their
ringing hollow as they do now... (i.e., when you claim
these values and then in the same breath fawn over the
superiority of dictator Xi and China's "accomplishments"
that you cheerfully declare to be "more important" than
ours, regardless that they're achieved upon the backs,
the rights and very lives of disappeared human beings,
there...just so we're clear...)

Would it be too much for *you* to actually embody and
speak from those specific values in ways that ring deeper
than surface wordings, that leave no doubt they're your
own experiential truth? Leave your spindoctor-spazzing
behind because it's no longer necessary? ;)

I'm going with Yes, that's asking too much. But hey, I'm
always up for surprises.

Thanks for sharing!


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9117


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:37:55
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


Perhaps I neglected to mention that I was the "father" of
KVMR and established those values even before the first
broadcast some 44 years ago.

Respect for each other was my gift to them and they have
embraced and grown it ever since.

If 700 broadcasters "get it", why the hesitancy here?

Interesting that you could understand the "magic" of KVMR
but not see the same in me.


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9119


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:45:31
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol...


OMG, Nevada, you've not neglected to mention it -- you've
repeated it over and over on this board more times than I
can remember, over all our years here.

I'm genuinely sorry that you cannot or choose not to,
even after my having explained it more times than I can
remember...including a few minutes ago...comprehend
precisely why it is that I *don't* see that same magic in
you.

Like everything else I say, it has no chance to *land*
anywhere near any capacity you might have for
receiving/comprehending it. Everything just goes flying
straight up into the air on those spincurrents...


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9121


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:54:39
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...they say the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree...


...why not look for the "good" in me sometime?

It wouldn't be that hard to find.


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:03:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...they say the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree...


I’m sure that at some point in my life, your choice to put as much energy
into revealing your own goodness to us will come to balance out and
surpass the charge of all else that’s come from you thus far! I look
forward to that!



Until then…no doubt there are many who, being more naturally aligned
with yours, are able to mirror your goodness back to you in far more
supportive ways than I currently can… ;)


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9110


Date: November 28, 2022 at 09:26:36
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: LOL


Thanks for cheering me up Shadow. Nevada can just be
perverse at times. You have a way with words and may be
the best here.


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9118


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:41:28
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LOL


Happy to cheer you up, Joe, and thanks for your kindness...
I'm looking forward to when utilizing means like this to
hold a relentless boundary against verbal obfuscation and
spin that imagines it can hide the true agenda and energies
they hold no longer strikes me as necessary...and leads me
to imagine it has any effect upon the phenomenon itself...

I can dream... ;D


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9112


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:11:55
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I agree, she definitely has a way with "words"...


...but then, I do too. I just choose to use them a lot
differently.

I prefer to use words as friends, not ammunition.


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9116


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:34:02
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oh c'mon, my cheeks are hurting from laughing so much... ;D


Cartoon: Two characters standing side by side, each is
holding a weapon. One of them acknowledges the weapon in
their hand, explains why it's there and on what grounds
they find themselves surprisingly utilizing it, even when
utilizing weapons goes against their grain in general.

The other character denies there's any weapon in their
hand at all and, despite the obvious fact that they're
wielding it wildly in every direction, decries the nerve
of the other character to bring a weapon into their
midst, let alone falsely accuse themself of having OR
using one (as their weapon continues its rampage), and
holds forth further extolling their own virtues as the
only peacemaker present...

Whew...lol... Seriously, that's a good one... ;D


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9120


Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:47:11
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oh c'mon, my cheeks are hurting from laughing so much... ;D


Perhaps you missed my point?

Like KVMR, "peacemakers" are everywhere.

Sometimes the only problem is our hesitancy to actually
believe that peacemakers really have a chance.

I took that chance, literally, and long term.

Best choice I ever made, but not the easiest or
most appreciated sometimes.


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:54:15
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oh c'mon, my cheeks are hurting from laughing so much... ;D


Your points are endlessly missed. And you tell everyone about it, over
and over.

Have you ever considered it’s because you’re not interpreting yourself as
others are? Maybe you’re blind to your own behavior? Maybe you should
listen to others rather than spend all your time telling them how they are
wrong.

Really, Nev, you spend so much time telling when do you have any left
over to listen?


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:08:13
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...when do you have any left over to listen?


...actually I've spent a lot of time in my life "doing"
as well.

Maybe that explains the "telling" part.

Why would that bother you so much?

Why is respect so hard a concept to embrace at our age
and achievement level?


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9130


Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:29:31
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen?


It don't bother me.. you can be anything you want.. I don't care.. but dude
you can't keep telling folks they're wrong and actually believe it.. it's a
broken record.. it's always you and the rest have it wrong wrong wrong.. it's
pathetic at this point. At this point any word you utter in your own defense is
bullshit Nev. And that's all you do.

My advice.. which you'll never listen to.. is shut up. etc., offers you a view,
shadow offers you a view, Ry.. Redhart.. and still you keep telling everyone
how you are right and they wrong.. without ever giving any of them the
respect of actually listening to what they say.

As I said.. listen..you know shut the fuck up already.


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 13:35:14
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen?


...interesting that "respect" is such a difficult concept
to embrace ao.

I'll stick with it a while longer if you don't mind.


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 15:59:31
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen?


As I said, you don’t really care what others think.. what they see.. but are
wholly consumed by your own ideas, your own perspective. Enough so
that all your posts are reports from your mind, not what it thinks of other
ideas, just an endless stream of your own.

Sort of like playing with yourself, don’t you think? But really, more than
that. Here you accompany your ideas with the suggestion they are better
than others. But how, if you don’t spend the time to really consider them,
do you really know?


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Date: November 28, 2022 at 17:01:02
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen?


"Sort of like playing with yourself, don’t you think?"

...interesting that "respect" is such a difficult
concept
to embrace ao.

I'll stick with it a while longer if you don't mind.

Why would you think "potty mouth" conversations are to
be preferred over a more respectful but intelligent
dialog?

Is it just your better nature to try to insult and
belittle those you disagree with with rather than to
reach some kind of meaningful consensus?

It's a wonder this country actually came up with a
working bill of rights if they had been using your
standards.

Why do you feel the need to go there? This forum seems
a lot closer to the sixth grade. And you suggest "I'm"
self obsessed? You seem to have a pretty set act of
your own going much of the time...

...is "your" act that much more mature than mine? How's
it really working for you?


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