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Date: November 27, 2022 at 21:39:07
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts...
...on WOWS than on National...
...probably a good time for some of us to show more respect and maturity for a change.
It seems that the more I suggest a more respectful and considerate approach to posting here, the more I get "attacked", and in some cases, actually banned.
The "spin meister" is how some describe my "sincere" approach to smoother and more meaningful communications.
I actually "respect" all of those posting here, even if I may disagree with what is sometimes said. I don't know the actual numbers, but I suspect fewer people are taking the time to post here than in the past, especially those that may hold more conservative views but I also see a lot of more liberal posters sitting on the bylines. Perhaps ryan can tell us if that is true or not.
While I understand that millions of dollars invested in negative political ads may sway elections, it seems rather out of place in forums like EB that seek a slightly more mature approach to the search for enlightened and sincere conversations.
Just my thoughts...
...would love to hear from others, especially those that may not be posting here as much as they used to.
Nevada/Lee
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Date: December 05, 2022 at 15:02:56
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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A matter of overwhelming Ring Pass Not syndrome. It has infected all the boards. 'My way or no way, idiots.' Who'd want to play in that game?
Over and out.
I hope this finds you and yours well, Lee. CC
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Date: December 05, 2022 at 15:46:02
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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Nope!
More like: Basic humanitarian (Constitutional) rights and freedoms for All first, friends. Its relentless momentum toward realization is what's infected a lot more of these boards than, say...oh, 3-4 years ago, praise be. ;)
Who'd not want to play that game? Oh wait! We know who. ;)
Hope you're well, cc. Over and out. ;)
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 20:34:38
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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an echo chamber doesn’t value respect or maturity. get with the program or get the f out
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 21:11:43
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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...perhaps EB has become like the canary in the gold mine...
...an indication of times to come.
What will we do when we get to the Pearly Gates and are told by the Angels "we" are welcome but the "garbage" we carry has to be left behind...
...that may be an interesting choice for some of us to make.
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Date: December 22, 2022 at 14:06:36
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: More Like "1984" Come to Life.(NT) |
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:12:55
From: karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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I wouldn't want to be the cause of people leaving ..
No one is here anymore - I have wondered why .. Some just leave and don't bother to say why .. I certainly have from time to time .. I didn't notice a change when I did leave for a month or so ..
I certainly do give them plenty of room for discussion .. perhaps that's a bad thing .. I find opinions interesting .. They are a reflection of where people are in their lives and how they react to others...
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Date: December 14, 2022 at 17:41:48
From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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It is the intolerance of some to be objective. Humanity is in big trouble & its time for all to wake up.... Please wake up. Humanity is loosing big time. I say NOT IN MY WORLD!!!
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:25:11
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...you know the times are-a changing when there are more posts... |
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"They are a reflection of where people are in their lives and how they react to others..."
That would be my observation as well Karen. Sometimes we forget that others have meaningful life paths as well that eventually work out just fine.
It shouldn't matter whether you are democrat or republican...
...it only matters who you really are.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 05:43:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Nevada, this is one of your best bullshit spins ever.
You wouldn't know "respectful, considerate maturity" if it bit you. Your OCD tactic of screaming the exact opposite of all those energies between the lines of your self-righteous and/or victimesque spin epics...extolling the virtues of rightwing views, supporting dictators and their mindsets while calling yourself a liberal, coming here and writing this schlock about how "far we have fallen" and how far less people come here because...wait for it...someone's meeting you verbally where you live, and you don't like it...encouraging those like yourself who've left, to return and support your shite...
...****k you and the lizard you rode in on...
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:07:40
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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I took a rare trip outside Nevada for thanksgiving and found myself listening to an old friend, KVMR Community Responsive FM out of Nevada City and Kat's Grass Valley. To verify what I am saying here you can find KVMR at kvmr.org and judge for yourself.
The young woman broadcasting live was pleasant, passionate, and an excellent communicator... did I mention positive? After about an hour of music, she took a break and described what Thanksgiving meant to her and her family. Never was there a hint of sarcasm or putting anyone down for their beliefs. I was close to tears by her sincerity and ability to clearly communicate what this day meant to her.
She spoke from her heart. It was the same "spirit" and heart that I first heard and respected on KVMR when the station went on the air in July of 1978 with an all volunteer staff and a loving spirit. I am going to suggest she is the third generation of broadcaster to grace KVMR's studios and still epitomizes the stations "original" respect for their fellow broadcasters and the northern California communities they continue to serve after some 44 years on the air.
KVMR is what is known as "eclectic" radio: ec·lec·tic /əˈklektik/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. deriving ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse range of sources. "universities offering an eclectic mix of courses" Similar: wide-ranging wide broad broad-ranging broad-based extensive comprehensive encyclopedic general universal varied diverse diversified catholic liberal cross-disciplinary interdisciplinary multidisciplinary all-embracing nonexclusive inclusive indiscriminate many-sided multifaceted multifarious heterogeneous miscellaneous assorted selective selecting choosing picking and choosing discriminating discerning critical Opposite: narrow dogmatic 2. PHILOSOPHY denoting or belonging to a class of ancient philosophers who did not belong to or found any recognized school of thought but selected doctrines from various schools of thought. noun a person who derives ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse range of sources.
KVMR has grown to 700 volunteers, 150 of which are community broadcasters, evenly split between male and female and representing as many different viewpoints and perspectives.
The one thing they share in common is a respect for each other and to bring out both the best in each other and the 40,000 listeners they serve around the world.
Would it be asking too much for Earth Boppers to show some of the same respect and compassion for humanity?
This endless tearing down and disrespect for fellow posters serves no useful purpose and only holds us all back from our greater potential.
Is that asking too much?
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:59:46
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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I think not too much to ask Lee. Common sense applies.
We all could be better if one applies ‘To each hi/ her own’.
When we all STOP listening to each other as where/ when the problem sets in.
IMO I have plenty of family that are liberals but in our hearts we still show love to each other. It’s not all that hard.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:03:41
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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I guess it's easier to be hurtful sometimes Kat.
I honestly don't get it but the harder I try, the more I seem to offend.
What's missing here?
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:19:28
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Playing dumb with a sideslap zing won't help you sell your victim shite either, pal, save to those few your antics serve...
Fascinating...when someone can't help but know the curtain's been drawn on his littleman behind the curtain, yet he continues pulling at the (verbal) gears, his words still flailing, as if everyone doesn't see his game is up... So similar to Trumpists! ;-O
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:02:05
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Why so bitter so much of the time when it comes to "me" shadow?
What would I have to say to be your friend?
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:14:56
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Bitter? Nah. ;) I've explained in great detail the stance I'll always take with you, Nevada, as well as exactly why I do so, quite a few times now...though this act of it being all *oh so bewildering* to you is no surprise, given the phenomenon of your refusal/incapacity to HEAR/LISTEN to what's being said to you...
And here you go now, suggesting there's *something you could say* that'd magically open a door to friendship between us.
That's perhaps most revealing of all. You can't *say your way* out of, or into, anything or anyone, pal, if your saying rings hollow... ;(
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 13:29:01
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Yogananda used to speak of beholding the one in all...
...why would anyone not be friends living in that reality?
Sooner or later we'll all come to realize we've always been on the same page.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:18:34
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Well, that's a lovely story, Nevada, about people who know the meaning of genuine respect and celebration of All People...
I suggest you keep reflecting on it! Perhaps at some point you will absorb and integrate at least some measure of those meanings, so those who read your words claiming these values as your own will feel some actual substance of experiential wisdom within them, rather than their ringing hollow as they do now... (i.e., when you claim these values and then in the same breath fawn over the superiority of dictator Xi and China's "accomplishments" that you cheerfully declare to be "more important" than ours, regardless that they're achieved upon the backs, the rights and very lives of disappeared human beings, there...just so we're clear...)
Would it be too much for *you* to actually embody and speak from those specific values in ways that ring deeper than surface wordings, that leave no doubt they're your own experiential truth? Leave your spindoctor-spazzing behind because it's no longer necessary? ;)
I'm going with Yes, that's asking too much. But hey, I'm always up for surprises.
Thanks for sharing!
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:37:55
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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Perhaps I neglected to mention that I was the "father" of KVMR and established those values even before the first broadcast some 44 years ago.
Respect for each other was my gift to them and they have embraced and grown it ever since.
If 700 broadcasters "get it", why the hesitancy here?
Interesting that you could understand the "magic" of KVMR but not see the same in me.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:45:31
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Yeah, times are changing Nevada, that's for sure...lol... |
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OMG, Nevada, you've not neglected to mention it -- you've repeated it over and over on this board more times than I can remember, over all our years here.
I'm genuinely sorry that you cannot or choose not to, even after my having explained it more times than I can remember...including a few minutes ago...comprehend precisely why it is that I *don't* see that same magic in you.
Like everything else I say, it has no chance to *land* anywhere near any capacity you might have for receiving/comprehending it. Everything just goes flying straight up into the air on those spincurrents...
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:54:39
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...they say the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree... |
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...why not look for the "good" in me sometime?
It wouldn't be that hard to find.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:03:44
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...they say the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree... |
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I’m sure that at some point in my life, your choice to put as much energy into revealing your own goodness to us will come to balance out and surpass the charge of all else that’s come from you thus far! I look forward to that!
Until then…no doubt there are many who, being more naturally aligned with yours, are able to mirror your goodness back to you in far more supportive ways than I currently can… ;)
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 09:26:36
From: joe stampingbull, [DNS_Address]
Subject: LOL |
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Thanks for cheering me up Shadow. Nevada can just be perverse at times. You have a way with words and may be the best here.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:41:28
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LOL |
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Happy to cheer you up, Joe, and thanks for your kindness... I'm looking forward to when utilizing means like this to hold a relentless boundary against verbal obfuscation and spin that imagines it can hide the true agenda and energies they hold no longer strikes me as necessary...and leads me to imagine it has any effect upon the phenomenon itself...
I can dream... ;D
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:11:55
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I agree, she definitely has a way with "words"... |
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...but then, I do too. I just choose to use them a lot differently.
I prefer to use words as friends, not ammunition.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:34:02
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oh c'mon, my cheeks are hurting from laughing so much... ;D |
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Cartoon: Two characters standing side by side, each is holding a weapon. One of them acknowledges the weapon in their hand, explains why it's there and on what grounds they find themselves surprisingly utilizing it, even when utilizing weapons goes against their grain in general.
The other character denies there's any weapon in their hand at all and, despite the obvious fact that they're wielding it wildly in every direction, decries the nerve of the other character to bring a weapon into their midst, let alone falsely accuse themself of having OR using one (as their weapon continues its rampage), and holds forth further extolling their own virtues as the only peacemaker present...
Whew...lol... Seriously, that's a good one... ;D
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 10:47:11
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oh c'mon, my cheeks are hurting from laughing so much... ;D |
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Perhaps you missed my point?
Like KVMR, "peacemakers" are everywhere.
Sometimes the only problem is our hesitancy to actually believe that peacemakers really have a chance.
I took that chance, literally, and long term.
Best choice I ever made, but not the easiest or most appreciated sometimes.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 11:54:15
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oh c'mon, my cheeks are hurting from laughing so much... ;D |
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Your points are endlessly missed. And you tell everyone about it, over and over.
Have you ever considered it’s because you’re not interpreting yourself as others are? Maybe you’re blind to your own behavior? Maybe you should listen to others rather than spend all your time telling them how they are wrong.
Really, Nev, you spend so much time telling when do you have any left over to listen?
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:08:13
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...when do you have any left over to listen? |
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...actually I've spent a lot of time in my life "doing" as well.
Maybe that explains the "telling" part.
Why would that bother you so much?
Why is respect so hard a concept to embrace at our age and achievement level?
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 12:29:31
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen? |
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It don't bother me.. you can be anything you want.. I don't care.. but dude you can't keep telling folks they're wrong and actually believe it.. it's a broken record.. it's always you and the rest have it wrong wrong wrong.. it's pathetic at this point. At this point any word you utter in your own defense is bullshit Nev. And that's all you do.
My advice.. which you'll never listen to.. is shut up. etc., offers you a view, shadow offers you a view, Ry.. Redhart.. and still you keep telling everyone how you are right and they wrong.. without ever giving any of them the respect of actually listening to what they say.
As I said.. listen..you know shut the fuck up already.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 13:35:14
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen? |
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...interesting that "respect" is such a difficult concept to embrace ao.
I'll stick with it a while longer if you don't mind.
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 15:59:31
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen? |
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As I said, you don’t really care what others think.. what they see.. but are wholly consumed by your own ideas, your own perspective. Enough so that all your posts are reports from your mind, not what it thinks of other ideas, just an endless stream of your own.
Sort of like playing with yourself, don’t you think? But really, more than that. Here you accompany your ideas with the suggestion they are better than others. But how, if you don’t spend the time to really consider them, do you really know?
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Date: November 28, 2022 at 17:01:02
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...when do you have any left over to listen? |
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"Sort of like playing with yourself, don’t you think?"
...interesting that "respect" is such a difficult concept to embrace ao.
I'll stick with it a while longer if you don't mind.
Why would you think "potty mouth" conversations are to be preferred over a more respectful but intelligent dialog?
Is it just your better nature to try to insult and belittle those you disagree with with rather than to reach some kind of meaningful consensus?
It's a wonder this country actually came up with a working bill of rights if they had been using your standards.
Why do you feel the need to go there? This forum seems a lot closer to the sixth grade. And you suggest "I'm" self obsessed? You seem to have a pretty set act of your own going much of the time...
...is "your" act that much more mature than mine? How's it really working for you?
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