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Date: July 13, 2022 at 19:35:17
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Who did I troll, Bopp?


I started a thread which attracted a multitude of nasty comments and
attacks. You allow shadow to spew, shit and piss all over the place. Not one
of her posts had anything to do with the topic. And you accuse me of
trolling? That's nuts.


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8970


Date: July 13, 2022 at 20:03:06
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


what then, was the purpose of the crickets post? it seemed to me you were trolling for a response...just thought i'd point that out for ya...gratis...


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8976


Date: July 14, 2022 at 06:28:09
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


The meaning of the crickets post was an expression of frustration about the
narrowness of topics discussed on the national board, not directly at the
lack of replies to my post. Trump and Jan. 6 seems to be nearly the only
topic of interest. Criticism of the right is acceptable and prolific. Criticizing
the democrats in congress or the Biden administration is verboten, or gee,
let's just wait and see before making judgement.

and I noticed you deleted shadow's first nasty post on that thread, but left
the rest. Why is that? Not a single post of her's had anything to do with the
topic I posted about. Just her usual spleen venting. Why is she allowed to
continue behaving this way, clogging up boards, while some one like Jim
get's banned? You have explaining to do. But I won't hold my breathe.


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8984


Date: July 14, 2022 at 13:28:20
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


there are many factors that go into my moderating decisions...and for better or worse, they are my decisions...and pushed buttons are always good for individual evolution...


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Date: July 14, 2022 at 15:47:10
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


I wonder how you would feel, think & respond if you were on the receiving
end? If you participated on a chat board moderated by someone who chose
to keep posters in the dark about the many factors that go into their
moderating decisions, why some people are allowed to troll & not follow
etiquette while others are not. Imagine if laws were made and enforced that
way? Haven't you wondered why so many interesting posters have left?
Looks a little like someone has a god complex.


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8992


Date: July 15, 2022 at 11:55:12
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: some apprentice "Gods" make better discisions than others Akira...


...very few guidelines in place.


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8988


Date: July 14, 2022 at 15:48:44
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: is Jim permanently banned? (NT)


(NT)


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8990


Date: July 14, 2022 at 16:11:03
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: is Jim permanently banned? No, he was "liberated"...


...he just had to figure out the right combination of
buttons to push and apparently was lucky enough to find
the winning combination.

The good news is that chronically "independent" spirits
like us now know exactly where we fit into the Boppin
pecking order and exactly "what isn't" expected of us.

Independent minded individuals are always welcome to
"apply" but only very carefully.

This probably goes back to the 1760's in America when
only "landowning" Caucasian males were entrusted with
writing and enforcing the rules. Things have changed on
"paper" quite a bit since then, but apparently not too
much.


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8980


Date: July 14, 2022 at 12:06:24
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


Most are not promoting the "good people on both sides"
mantra. Or in your version no one is signing up for "bad
people on the US and democratic side".

I think most are aware of the negative aspects of what is
happening. I for one, do not enjoy your judgements being
put in my face with your posts.
And before you say "don't click on it", you put your
position in the thread title. It is impossible not to see
it, as I'm sure is your intent.

I've said this before. But I'm going to say it again. Your
positions are judgmental and short sighted, promoting
hysteria and myopia. They are deflections from the larger
picture and discussions to the practical solutions to the
issues raised.

What is most disturbing to me is that you seem to be
oblivious the fragility of this country's democratic
government. Instead of recognizing this peril, you
continuously attack this country weakening it further.
Further, you do not seem to care about the effect your
commentaries have. Either you are in complete denial or
you are simply so arrogant that you would be pleased to
see our democracy end with a "I told you so mind set".

I just can't believe that you hate this country so much
that you would be happy to help push it into an
authoritarian state. And as much as you deny it, that is
exactly what you are doing and have done.




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Date: July 14, 2022 at 12:16:27
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


It seems she is a hard left progressive. The extreme left work
towards demolishing government the same way extreme right does.
They would just rebuild a different way. When Akira posts continuous
articles that criticize and tear down our government, whether it be
Trump or Biden, there is purposefully no solutions attached for either
side. Because the goal is not to fix anything. But replace. In my
opinion.


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8993


Date: July 15, 2022 at 13:19:26
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


Thanks etc. That makes sense. The sad part is that they
have no idea what could replace the government after they
destroy it. History is full of examples and they are not
pretty.

I guess that is my umbrage in a nutshell.


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8991


Date: July 14, 2022 at 16:25:37
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: But "replace" In my opinion... George Washington touched on that


...however many "independent minded thinkers" were
grateful for his actions...

...until now.

Now he's just another stubborn slave owner whose
statues only clutter up the landscape.

People that feel that they have to think for themselves
regardless of what the masses think has always been an
issue in America...

...probably a fortunate thing.


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8977


Date: July 14, 2022 at 09:35:31
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Who did I troll, Bopp?


Akira. You are right. Your posts are the only ones left worthy of reading
imo. Eb used to be a interesting place with lots of differing ideas.



I basically stopped posting links because of the source trolling. Now I’m
just here out of boredom.



Sad.


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8981


Date: July 14, 2022 at 12:09:59
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "Source Trolling"


Use sources that are credible. "Source trolling" is a
bullshit excuse to continue to promote disinformation.


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8983


Date: July 14, 2022 at 12:29:02
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Source Trolling"


You should NOT be the boss of what I post. Do u not know what a forum
is anyway. It’s usually many opinions so others can get all sorts of
information.



You continue to put down others for which u do the very same thing.




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Date: July 14, 2022 at 13:30:05
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Source Trolling"


i have already determined that questioning sources in general is okay...i realize you do not like it but that is your problem, not mine...for some reason you feel entitled...just an observation...


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Date: July 14, 2022 at 16:10:24
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Source Trolling"


"Questioning sources" is one thing, but mediabiasfactcheck.com's seal of
disapproval isn't that. The site is comprised of a group of untrained, biased
people posing as arbiters of truth in their spare time. If the site doesn't even
measure up to mainstream, Columbia Journalism Review, why do you Bopp
give it so much credibility?



mediabiasfackcheck.com: unqualified/subjective/prone to bias

" In 2018, the Columbia Journalism Review described Media Bias/Fact Check

as an amateur attempt at categorizing media bias and characterized their

assessments as "subjective assessments [that] leave room for human

biases, or even simple inconsistencies, to creep in".[3]"

https://www.cjr.org/innovations/measure-media-bias-partisan.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check



from mediabiasfactcheck's website:



About

Aaron O’Leary

I’m a Politics graduate from Ireland and an aspiring political correspondent.

I’m currently living in the United Kingdom, covering all things Brexit on

Periscope, I am passionate about live stream Journalism and Independent

Journalism.

Karen O’Connor Rubsam is a CFA charterholder and retired CPA having

spent 20+ years in the independent accounting and reinsurance industries.

Karen avidly follows economic and political events and is a proponent of

lifelong learning. While recognizing that everyone is entitled to their own

opinions she is a firm believer that we all should be working off the same set

of facts. Karen shares MBFC’s aim to return to an era of straight-forward

news reporting.

Kenneth White resides in California with his wife. Ken is not registered to any

party, leans left but strives for center in his reporting, and wishes all this

Neo-Nazi business would hide its head in the sand once again.

Jim Fowler resides in Shreveport, Louisiana with his two boys and is

currently working toward pursuing a degree in Psychology/Addiction. Jim is a

registered independent voter that tends to lean conservative on most issues.

Michael Allen - no link on MBFC, so I did a search:

Is this the same Michael Allen? Who knows.

excerpt:

Criticism and controversy

Allen has attracted criticism for focusing coverage on superficial aspects of

politics and of the culture of Washington D.C.[11][1] In November 2013, The

Washington Post wrote a lengthy article detailing a payola scandal in which

Allen would give favorable Politico coverage in return for advertising dollars.

[12] Allen has refused to publicly comment.[13] Jonathan Chait described

Politico's response as 'evasive tripe'.[14] Writing in Salon, Alex Pareene

described his work as "indistinguishable from a paid advocate for business

interests.

In November 2015, Allen made an apology after the website Gawker

reported that he offered to let Chelsea Clinton screen interview questions in

advance of a proposed interview. The offer was made in a January 2013

email exchange between Allen and Hillary Clinton's aide Philippe Reines. He

also promised in the email that the interview would be "no surprises" and

"no risk."[16]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Allen_(journalist)

McKenzie Huitsing?

“Not much additional information about Van Zandt is publicly available

online. A LinkedIn profile states that a Dave Van Zandt is the former owner of

Van Zandt Webs and studied at William Paterson University of New Jersey.

[8] From the F.A.Q:[7]”

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check





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Date: July 15, 2022 at 13:21:45
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Source Trolling"


Like Bopp said that is your problem.
Ryan has already stated that he considers it to be
accurate.

Colleges use the site to teach journalism with.


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Date: July 15, 2022 at 14:11:58
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Source Trolling"


Oh that explains it then. Most all colleges lean far left. Makes sense
then.


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8986


Date: July 14, 2022 at 13:51:39
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "Source Trolling"


I do not feel entitled. Two people are allowed to source troll so it’s my
decision not to give them a reason by just not posting links.



I truly miss the old days of eb where people were allowed to have
opinions and discussions even tho they sometimes got heated. I spend
most of my time on political forum where it’s allowed. Heavily monitored
but fair.


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Date: July 13, 2022 at 20:58:37
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: what then, was the purpose of the crickets post?


What's the purpose of 90% of the posts on National?

About 10% are genuine National discussions.

The rest tend to be source challenges, snark,
diversion, psychology advice, anal probes, personal
attacks and off topic.

Akira is probably the single most serious poster on EB
these days and yet when she get's attacked, you pull
her over for a warning instead of the troller.

Do you really want to improve this or just continue to
be part of the problem Bopp?


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Date: July 13, 2022 at 21:41:00
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: what then, was the purpose of the crickets post?


you would do well to try to emulate her dude...i get it, you don't like the way i run my boards...now as akira and others have said, fuck off...


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Date: July 13, 2022 at 22:07:55
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: boards are fine, it's Bopp's potty mouth dude...


...gives the illusion to everyone else that that's what
you want.

You're the one setting the "example" of what your
expectations "really are.

Would be thoughtful if you sent out the message
"yourself" of what others here should expect of
themselves.

Pretty loosey goosey today.


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Date: July 13, 2022 at 23:34:54
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: boards are fine, it's Bopp's potty mouth dude...


10...9....8....7...


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