Date: April 05, 2022 at 06:49:58 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: Sorry about that Bopp
Chet evidently can't even remember who he's harmed in the past or what he's posted, I kind of figured it would be obvious to everyone that it was me. since I have repeatedly brought up that exchange with him, as I will not forgive him for saying I should be raped by Clinton.
I consider him absolute evil after that, he knows it, I find it unfathomable that he'd attribute that to Eve considering that years ago when she was still a Trump supporter she backed his perversions, though she's at least since changed a little for the better.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 07:52:43 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Sorry about that Bopp
WTH Awen ? I have never been a Trump supporter EVER...I don't even believe in politics and hate the game playing! You have lost your memory if you ever had one or were not paying attention. Plus you aught to not talk about people like you do as in just now about me in front of my face behind my back especially when you can't remember shit. Then you wonder what you did cause it can't be you..doh! How low can you go? If you can't remember my stance on politics when I have been clear all along as in I think the ballot box is a hoax and have thought so for over twenty years then just stop talking about me like you know stuff you don't know or as if you remember stuff you can't remember.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 08:00:07 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: I'll only say that I wish Dreams went back to about 7 or 8 years ago
Believe me, one doesn't forget threads like that when one is on the receiving end. It's not possible. They're burned into you.
And responding to a post chain that you yourself started is by no means talking about anyone behind their back.
Regardless of what I respond to it's not talking behind anyone's back when the posts are public and there for everyone to see.
Karen brought me up in a few random posts before she left for a while too. Much as I was hurt by what she said, I certainly did not consider it "talking behind my back."
Date: April 05, 2022 at 08:08:17 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I'll only say that I wish Dreams went back to about 7 or 8 years...
Threads like what? Again you misremember and I disagree with what you think is not gossipy because to me it is and you aim to be disruptive on purpose and to start stuff with someone who is not in the conversation as well as using fake handles which began this entire nonsense. You are not credible to me and you are forgetful in my position on politicians of any sort I feel they are all players and have thought so for over twenty years. I have not ever strayed from that stance here. I have never brought your name up in a post unless I am directly talking to you...just because others do so does not mean I think it is okay and I am saying to you it's not okay ... you striving to use another to support your point bringing them up in your post as you can't stop yourself from being out of order. I consider such behavior childish and have said so to others in the past even if you do not think so I do and you come across as whiny.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 08:13:32 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I'll only say that I wish Dreams went back to about 7 or 8...
We have about opposite beliefs about what constitutes childish and whiney, Eve. I know I have problems, but this is a pot, kettle black situation, though we both have differing views about who the pot is and who the kettle is.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 08:17:19 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I'll only say that I wish Dreams went back to about 7 or 8...
Because you can't read your own nonsense and when you do it sounds smart to you when it's not and it's also built on fake memories pertaining to what you said of me. Thanks for the last word, as if saying so is is akin to you taking the high road when you are traveling the low road by making such a childish statement.
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Date: April 05, 2022 at 07:13:43 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: To be fair, they are correct in a way
You do seem to let me and a few others get away with a lot more than most. I usually assume it's because you agree with me in some way, but that doesn't alter the fact that there is bias.
I'll reiterate, if I do cross a line, my mental health issues do not give me a pass, and it is not going to do harm if you call me out on it.
In Chet's case, he crossed the most fundamental line of my core experience in this world a long time ago, and he doesn't seem to have any remorse or any comprehension that he is capable of doing damage or wrong.
But that IS personal, and not necessarily in alignment with the forum.
I personally consider him a mouth of the Beast, the one that deludes it's followers into thinking they are Christian, through twisted lines of nonreason that I never have understood considering how counter they run to basic notions of right and wrong even as laid out in the Bible (a document that itself is very human and has been very profaned through mistranslation and interpretation through the centuries).
But that too is religious belief on my part, and actions based on religious or spiritual assertations are by nature not rational and will automatically run counter to other beliefs.
As far as that goes, I don't feel I've crossed a line with Chet (at least nothing worse than the line he crossed with me), I HAVE however been unfair to C in allowing Chet's post to get under my skin on her thread. But since that's flared up, I've added some follow-up, under my name this time, and feel free to delete if we're all being less than appropriate to the forum and thread.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 07:58:30 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: To be fair, they are correct in a way
I can add you have been unfair to me in speaking about me based on your false memory or lack of memory in this thread. The mental health crutch is getting old as well and it may be you invoke it to give yourself permission to speak out of order.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 08:19:45 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I fully agree
You said something about me that is untrue and are unapologetic and haughty in regards to your misspeaking about me...or maybe you did so on purpose and are making stuff up or lost in la la land or just lost.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 08:58:39 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I fully agree
Strange, if we're going to say what tone a post seems to take to the reader, yours do come off as hugely superior and haughty.
Tone doesn't carry in posts and you're absolute wrong about the tone you're getting from mine.
Do continue projecting though.
Yes, this last one is sarcastic, but the others weren't, they weren't haughty, more like helpless trying to figure out what will actually get you to see truth.
Back out of sarcasm mode....for all that we do overlap significantly in some ways, our truths are so at odds in other places that I don't think either of us will ever see the reality of the other person's perspective.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 09:12:44 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I fully agree
whatever! you are likes snores galore at this point you talk about me drag me into your guilt trip session and then avoid saying you were wrong about me being a Trump supporter with all the mumbo jumbo verbiage to dance around it you just keep layering it on like rancid mayo.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 11:17:00 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: One Question
If someone told you your memories are wrong, would you automatically assume they are correct and apologize?
I think not.
Currently there is no evidence either way as to you or I being correct here.
It's possible I'm wrong, but I have a lot more faith in my memories than I do you.
And I'm not going to lie and claim to apologize just to keep the peace.
I would not expect that of you under similar circumstances.
And the more you keep harassing me to do something that no person in their right mind would do (take on culpability without evidence), the more I think you actually do know what I'm talking about and prefer to leave it buried.
Your own actions don't prove the truth of my memories, but they lend a LOT of credibility to them.
Denial is one thing and that's fine, you're welcome to say you didn't do it, and maybe you didn't. Maybe I AM wrong.
But to command an apology as if you think your words are sacred over other people's memories, that's a different thing altogether. That is something no one has any right to do.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 11:43:44 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: One Question
I know myself well enough to know I never said anything about being a Trump supporter ever and my recall is better than yours. You are all over the place with personal issues stuff and it does not come across your recall is better than mine, quite the opposite.
You started this and brought me into the equation on your busy body post just reminding you so to help you remember it was in the past hours not 7 or 8 years ago.
The issue that you are fixated on making a fake memory concerning me is just weird but it's the way this world is at this point and time I don't expect better but for it to get worse. It's why I only post here and never stay away from socializing media as I saw it coming years ago so I committed myself to not partake of it at large.
Your fake memory though is I suppose why you jump on me irrationally at times transposing things on to me you think you see but you don't see.
I have seen you in the past go on about your issue and I never butted in feeling compassion for you but recently not so much it's like you are angry and want someone to be angry at and I am one of those you chose to direct it towards. I feel something else is hindering your ability to let go but it's not me or anyone here and if so maybe best for you to abstain.
I am not guilty of your accusation that is the bottom line and I know this.
Date: April 05, 2022 at 12:25:57 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: That was a yes or no question
I will ask again, would you trust another person's word over your own memory (particularly some random person online) and apologize because they told you to, with no evidence either way?
Yes or no.
As for your response, neither my memory nor yours is provable either way, and I'm not going to comment on it. It's possible you're right. It's possible I am.
That's the closest to apology I can come that honors both of our perspectives as there appears to be no proof either way.
Date: April 06, 2022 at 07:59:47 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: You were the one who called me "unapologetic", as if you were owed
I simply asked you to empathize as to why that wasn't possible, and you finally managed to do that, albeit with more name calling and provocative language.
At least you managed the important part, that is, understanding where I'm coming from and why no apology that you asked for is forthcoming. I'm sorry you still have to resort to name calling and provocative language to make yourself feel better after that effort.
Date: April 06, 2022 at 13:59:17 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: You were the one who called me "unapologetic", as if...
For Gadfly maggot removal see a doctor:
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Date: April 05, 2022 at 12:47:45 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: That was a yes or no question
And as for me obsessing Eve, why yes, I do believe I have openly acknowledged that what Chet did in relation to what has physically happened to me was absolute wrong, and that is NOT something I will let pass.
You are basically repeating my own words back at me. I've acknowledged that issue multiple times.
Why do you persist in rubbing people's noses in problems they've already acknowledged and talk down to them as if they don't realize it, whilst repeating what they've said elsewhere as if they didn't say it?
And why do you think it's such a bad terrible thing to stand against people who take a fat shit on people who have been raped and do it repeatedly even after they've been asked to stop?
Do you think women should just shut up and take it?
No. I will call out filth like that, that is the only ethical thing to do in that situation.
It's interesting how you've turned yourself around and you appear to be siding with Chet now because I call him out on being a pervert, as anyone should be doing.