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8426


Date: February 08, 2022 at 05:04:28
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Bopp


I’ve been a long time admirer of yours and I’m truly thankful for the platform
you’ve provided. It’s offered a unique opportunity for growth, no doubt. I
haven’t always agreed with every decision you’ve made, but more often
then not, you’ve made an extraordinary effort to moderate this site fairly with
tremendous patience & a grounded sense of fair play. At the end of the day,
it’s the only reason I’ve hung around as long as I have.

That no longer seems to be happening here. The final straw for me
happened recently on the national board. I was accused by etc of lying
when I mentioned the fact that I had conceded posting something
inaccurate in a recent post. Since she couldn’t find that post, she continued
to raise doubt about my veracity, my credibility. When I presented her with
the actual post proving my claim, she remained dubious. Instead of simply
admitting she'd been mistaken, she doubled down. She continued by
reminding me (for at least the 3rd time ) of an exchange we had several
years ago in which I called her a ‘bitich’. Yes, I was upset by this continual
reminder because I had apologized and expressed my regret about that to
her directly years ago. Instead of interacting honestly & simply admitting a
mistake, this damaged ego chose to point the spotlight back on her own
perceived injury and my previous transgression.

This is a form of bullying. You’ve chosen to condone it.

What do you do? Delete my posts.

Your apparent hatred forJim and rampant deletion of his posts seems to
come from an unbalanced place, especially compared with the tolerance
you have for dan’s trolling. But of course, that’s just an opinion.

Anyway, I wanted to be clear about my deep appreciation for your tireless
commitment and efforts here.

I expect to check in now & then to see if anything’s changed, but for now I’m
moving on.


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8428


Date: February 08, 2022 at 10:13:07
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bopp/ryan


...the Lady pretty much says it all ryan...

...but you stopped listening a long time ago.

Akira was without a doubt the most credible poster on
EB in recent years during a period most posters were
more concerned with pushing their own rather narrow ego
driven agenda rather than respect the diversity and
tolerance once more common here.

I once managed a community radio station where my
primary goal was to help inspire great broadcasters in
a supportive atmosphere with the hope they would go on
to inspire the same in others.

Maybe it's time you articulated what your goals for
Earth Boppin are before the dream expires before it's
time.

Lee


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8430


Date: February 08, 2022 at 10:21:56
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bopp/ryan


okay, thanks...vaya con dios...surprised that you took/are taking it so seriously...


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8431


Date: February 08, 2022 at 10:49:59
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...there's something to be said for your consistency ryan...


...it's your "vision" for the future I'd be more
interested in.

Care to share it?


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8432


Date: February 08, 2022 at 11:02:12
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...there's something to be said for your consistency ryan...


stay out of cat fights...experience has taught me the scratches obtained in such interventions usually get infected...there is no "future"...


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8435


Date: February 08, 2022 at 16:40:55
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...stay out of cat fights? take better care of all the cats ryan...


...there are a number of cats here you show favoritism
towards...

...big mistake when when you encourage the behavior of
one cat over another.

You just chased the best cat in the house out because
you won't stop the favorites game.

Time to up your game.

An apology to Akira on your part would be the civel
thing to do regardless of how you might feel in the
moment...

...I do it for JimW all the time.


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8476


Date: February 16, 2022 at 14:05:11
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ..Lee, you do NOTHING for me, and


All you do is for YOU and your bloated ego.


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8437


Date: February 08, 2022 at 16:58:57
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...stay out of cat fights? take better care of all the cats...


you give me too much credit lee...people make their own choices for their own reasons...and they are often not understandable by others...you just sound like another kitty that wants his ears scratched...


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8439


Date: February 08, 2022 at 17:26:20
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...people make their own choices for their own reasons...


...my personal reason for posting on EB for the past 20
years has been to better understand why others think
like they do and to try to become a better
"communicator" myself, something quite useful as a
broadcaster most of my life including the present.

I fully understand that not everyone is meant to think
exactly as I do and that virtually everyone I encounter
has something to offer my own life if I am patient
enough to look for it.

Without a doubt, you personally have been incredibly
useful to me and like Akira, I appreciate and benefit
from that.
But just because our world is currently on a "crazy"
course, does not mean we need to join it, but rather
learn from it and hopefully become some part of the
eventual solution.

As for wanting my ears scratched, why would that ever
be considered a problem?

Did you know Mark Twain had 37 cats at one time...

...or another?




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Date: February 08, 2022 at 18:00:36
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...people make their own choices for their own reasons...


ouspensky was a big fan of cats too...and myself...i appreciate their unfounded arrogance...


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8427


Date: February 08, 2022 at 09:59:45
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bopp


okay, thanks...vaya con dios...surprised that you took/are taking it so seriously...


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8429


Date: February 08, 2022 at 10:21:46
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...exactly her point I think Bopp...


...I suspect you don't have a clue how destructive your
"mentoring" has become on EB ryan.


You might start with an apology and some indication you
actually understand what she just said.

You are totally clueless these days....

...and I mean that in the most respectful and loving
way.

When the best of the best moves on, you better know
you've got some serious issues to address...

...this is way beyond "voya con dios"... dude.


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8434


Date: February 08, 2022 at 15:35:34
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...exactly her point I think Bopp...


So you never saw any of Akira's posts as personal
attacks on etc. Figures!
I saw every interaction between Akira and ect. devolving
into attacks by Akira, including the one Akira is
complaining about.

You have a strange sense of fairness and equity


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Date: February 08, 2022 at 17:05:31
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...exactly her point I think Bopp...


Generally speaking, Akira is a no nonsense poster that
posts on both sides of issues and lets them speak for
themselves.

Etc is more likely to post from her own perspective and
psychologically devour those that don't agree with her.

As a result it often becomes an "I'm right" you're
wrong proposition where only she can be a "winner"
rather than to seek a "win win" perspective so that
both parties can live to interact another time.

It used to be that by the time you posted on a board
like EB you had the maturity level to respect the
participants enough not to play these games too often.

The board quite frankly has been out of control for
some time now.


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Date: February 09, 2022 at 01:47:46
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...exactly her point I think Bopp...



"Generally speaking, Akira is a no nonsense poster that
posts on both sides of issues and lets them speak for
themselves."

I don't think that there are many here that share that
view, Lee.

Whenever, her views were challenged, she launched
personal attacks upon that poster. And she was quite
consistent with that behavior.

She tried to impose her own rules for accuracy when
posting when she didn't necessarily follow them here
self.
With that in mind, she chased me around for months with
the term hypocrite, for supposedly violating those
rules. In addition she maintained a vindictive campaign
to either get me thrown out of here or get me to leave
on my own. Later she teamed up with Jim to try and push
me out.

She called etc. intellectually dishonest, when from my
perspective it was she who was consistently the same.

She tried the same intimidation tactics on etc, Redhart,
and anyone else who questioned her posts.
Oh and she had a tendency to lie about what she posted,
when confronted with past postings.

So you just keep on spinning that Lee. We all know what
you support.


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8433


Date: February 08, 2022 at 12:20:42
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: It is a true tragedy.


But were seeing it all around us. Not just on EB.

And it's quite frightening.

What frightens me even more, is Bopp may want it to happen, seeing the
stuff he posts, points in that direction.


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8436


Date: February 08, 2022 at 16:48:26
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Bopp may want it to happen...


...I'm not sure ryan actually knows what he wants to
happen...

...one thing for sure, you could see Akira's decision
coming from a mile away and the fact he let it happen
without showing some tact is not a good sign.

Posters like Akira are worth their weight in Gold. Not
too many like that out there anymore.


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8442


Date: February 09, 2022 at 01:51:10
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bopp may want it to happen...


She left once to supposedly play chess. I think she made
an attempt at it.
But she came back rather quickly.
Time will tell if she actually stays away.


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8465


Date: February 11, 2022 at 12:01:53
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: lol, what does playing chess have to do with anything?


One of the most illogical comments you've ever posted.

Still playing & improving. :)


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8443


Date: February 09, 2022 at 10:45:01
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...with Akira gone, EB is operating on fumes...


...perhaps you'll up your game enough Dan to make up
the huge deficit her absence creates.

You might start by admitting she was a pretty good
poster and developing some of those good qualities into
your own style.

I certainly wish you and the others God speed with
that.

I personally hope she comes back but with the
incredibly toxic atmosphere that has evolved here that
would seem unlikely in the short term.

Would you like her to come back? If so, let her and
the rest of us know.

Lee


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8463


Date: February 11, 2022 at 02:37:11
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "Toxic atmosphere"?


You're a large part of that toxic atmosphere with your
constant baiting and trolling.

And so was Akira and Jim.

There was a short moment of sanity and calm while they
were both gone...now Jim is back
So much for that.......


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8466


Date: February 11, 2022 at 14:41:52
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...do you want a forum where everyone agrees with you Dan?


We are not talking about "diversity and stimulating
dialogue" here Lee.
We both know that. And you are deflecting as usual.

Go Fish!!


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Date: February 11, 2022 at 17:22:10
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...do you want a forum where everyone agrees with you Dan?


Hi Dan,

> We are not talking about "diversity and stimulating
dialogue" here Lee.

Well what are you talking about? Have you ever tried
diversity and stimulating dialogue? You should try it,
many people really enjoy stimulating dialogue. Instead
of talking about people and going after sources you
could try making counterpoints. That is the way
dialogue often happens, someone makes a point and then
someone who doesn't agree makes a counterpoint.

I really think you might enjoy that more than lecturing
people about the sources they use. It might also be
more effective to show that a post isn't true than to
just talk about the source.

Cheers

Jim


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8469


Date: February 11, 2022 at 17:45:05
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...do you want a forum where everyone agrees with you Dan?


👍🙌🌈👏


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8470


Date: February 12, 2022 at 05:47:14
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Um...


...nevermind...lol...


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8471


Date: February 12, 2022 at 05:59:27
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...or rather...


I'm really happy to see you feeling better, pamela! ;D

That's more what I want to say. My first impulse would've
set off an angle of discussion best left where it is for
the moment. ;)


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8467


Date: February 11, 2022 at 16:02:21
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: We are not talking about "diversity and stimulating dialogue" here Lee


...that's for sure Dan.

Next life maybe?

Are you a fisherman?

I stopped when I was 16.


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