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Date: January 08, 2022 at 13:06:10
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: How next-level hilarious!!! ;D Ryan should start charging admission... |
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...to watch Nevada and JTRIV (and one or two others)
rolling out their best hollow diatribes ad nauseum
forever, here, in what will never be anything more than
baseless adolescent attempts to bully/shame ryan (!!!)
into becoming who they want him to be, and running his
board the way they wish he would... Such flagrant,
desperate need for validation! Only thing sadder/funnier,
as I've said before, would be if I were to go to some
conservative online forum and act like these guys are
acting, and actually expect anything different than what
happens here on a forum owned by someone very non-
conservative, with a majority of similarly-oriented
posters... lololololol ;D
You'd think they'd figure out after *all these years* how
transparent & absurd these "efforts" are...no matter how
many big words they assemble & re-assemble, over and over
and over again, imagining they will one day manage to
configure some kind of "righteous case" for him doing
anything differently...like, ever... What's funniest for
me is when Nevada tries his best to diss ryan's style of
moderating from spun-up, hilariously false *higher
moral/humane/spiritual ground* words that he imagines are
bought as sincere, by readers here... Especially when he
tries to make the case that he's innocent of personal
attack, and everyone else guilty, when that energy from
him is soooo glaringly obvious -- both at face value, as
well as to anyone with sensors that read between lines...
I used to get embarrassed for him, but not anymore...
Personally I think if ryan did chargee to witness this
circus, he'd get it... ;D
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Date: January 08, 2022 at 13:36:16
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...can't help but notice you chose not to respond to Jim's post... |
URL: https://www.learning-mind.com/intellectual-dishonesty-signs/ |
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...but chose instead to take the low road. Why not click
on the link above and respond to the topic of
intellectual honesty and dishonesty and see which shoe
fits you best.
I've been a lifelong liberal and have absolutely no
problem discerning the difference. Akira originally
posted it on the Health board which I assume also
includes mental health.
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Date: January 08, 2022 at 21:04:42
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: .Nevada I call your post right wing BS! |
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You call yourself a liberal?
Thanks for the belly laugh!
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 05:45:48
From: Dan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: .Nevada I call your post right wing BS! |
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Glad to see you're still around....hope you and yours
are well
And yeah, nothing has changed much here. Jim came out of
the rafters a few months back. (sigh)
Lee is still baiting and trolling.
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 13:08:19
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: .Nevada I call your post right wing BS! |
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Have a great week, Dan
Ignore the 2 little brats
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Date: January 08, 2022 at 21:55:35
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: What is the real definition of a "liberal" these days JimW? |
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the more I research who I am, the more I realize that
I'm pretty much a die hard liberal...
Maybe you should do a fact check on what a true liberal
is supposed to look like. You can start with this
definition and see if either of us fits well with the
term liberal.
Charles Tips
Serious student of US and world politics
Updated 5 years ago · Author has 4K answers and 22.7M
answer views
This would be the definition of liberal from political
science rather than common American usage.
From The Oxford Companion to Politics of the World: At
a minimal definition, we can say that liberalism
considers individuals to be the seat of moral value and
each individual as of equal worth. Hence, the
individual should be free to choose his or her own ends
in life. Liberalism is morally neutral in regards to
the ends people choose for themselves, but it is not
morally neutral in its view that such individual choice
is desirable and must be safeguarded from unwarranted
interference from the state.
From The Blackwell Encyclopaedia of Political Thought:
The basic principle of modern liberalism is the view
that politics is artificial. Government is necessary,
but it is not natural. Liberty is the natural human
condition. Political authority is conventional. Reason
can guide politics, but nature furnishes reason with no
positive goals for political conventions, only negative
ones, chiefly the avoidance of death, disease, and
poverty. There are no ways of life and therefore no
classes of human being who can claim to rule by natural
or supernatural right. The legitimate ends of
government are limited to securing the conditions of
all ways of life, and therefore consist largely of the
secular goals of peace and prosperity.
The liberal outlook in my view: Left to our own
devices, we will surely prosper owing to enterprise,
innovation, generosity and community spirit. History
clearly demonstrates this. It is all but impossible to
predict who among us has the genius, the boldness, the
perseverance and other talents to provide mankind with
the next great boon, and so all should be empowered to
act according to their own lights in order to produce a
more prosperous and empowered society.
The sum of these preferences of liberals favors a
government founded on Republicanism (Republicanism in
the United States for the full-blown version) and
limited to Enumerated powers. In full republican
government, each individual is a sovereign citizen
possessing Human rights in the United States making him
or her free to act according to their own lights within
legal limits. This yields a social structure with a
robust Private sector and Civil society, and supported
by the limited Public sector.
Liberals oppose the non-republican authoritarian forms
of government found in all monarchic and socialistic
systems, even so-called democratic ones. In those
schemes, the government is sovereign and citizens are
subjects with a lesser set of rights and owing duty to
the sovereign while hoping for privileges in return.
The public sector controls both the private and civil
sectors. Such forms of government are not just non-
liberal but anti-liberal.
Liberalism is a radical political outlook in its
egalitarianism and empowerment of the individual. The
"shepherd and flock" model of governing in which a
political elite rules over a population, as in monarchy
and socialism, is much more common. When coupled with
the liberal economics of Adam Smith and Jean-Baptiste
Say together with the Age of Enlightenment concept of
human progress that culminated in Immanuel Kant,
liberalism has radically altered the world like no
other ideology. It has created 99 percent of the wealth
in the history of mankind which in turn has
dramatically reduced poverty putting an end to such
lamentable practices as slavery and child labor while
enabling such benefits as greater education, scientific
medicine and technological innovation.
While the United States is the most fully realized
liberal nation, liberalism has had to contend with
populistic urges throughout the 19th century and
socialistic ones since before the 20th century. In
fact, in the 20th century, the US elected only four
predominantly liberal presidents--Warren G. Harding,
Calvin Coolidge, John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan.
Kennedy has been the only liberal elected president
from the Democratic Party (Cleveland was somewhat
liberal though not in a racial sense). Even the
Republican Party, which historically has stood for
liberalism, has elected more progressives and statists
to the presidency than liberals. Indeed, in its current
crop of presidential contenders, the party has an ill-
fitting candidate campaigning anti-liberally on purely
populist appeals.
Still, liberalism remains the dominant ideology in the
US, with something like seventy percent of us having
our thinking informed significantly by our native
liberalism. Libertarians hold the most thoroughly
liberal outlook, followed by Burkean conservatives in
the Republican Party, who wish to conserve our liberal
heritage but with lessened emphasis on social
liberalism. Some stripes of conservatism and the
statist strains of the Republican Party harbor some
liberal sentiments but are basically non-liberal.
The Democratic Party had a flirtation with liberalism
in the late 19th century with the Bourbon Democrat
movement. The party was predominantly liberal again
during the Red Scare of the Cold War as it marginalized
its more progressive members. The American Civil
Liberties Union has through its existence been a
staunch defender of liberalism in its proper fully-
radical form. The fact that such advocacy of liberalism
has often offended Republican sensibilities shows how
far that party has strayed from republican ideals. And
with the reemergence of progressivism in the Democratic
Party beginning in the 1970s, the ACLU sits
uncomfortably in alliance with that party. Despite the
fact that progressives, in the US alone, like to refer
to themselves as liberal, they are in political science
terms, anti-liberal.
We libertarians would love nothing more than to nourish
a robust return to the full flowering of the liberalism
of our founding heritage.
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 13:10:29
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LOL(NT) |
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 05:31:46
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What is the real definition of a "liberal" these days... |
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Whoa! Lookit that! ;) That was certainly a big wad of
words from others that describe what the word liberal has
meant within certain contexts of the past, Nevada! Might
even be a volume record, even for you...
But as you well knew, even amidst typing it, they do
nothing whatsoever to sell your true colors as being
liberal ones...not for those of us who've been reading
your posts these many years...lol...
You can't change the fabric of What Is simply by spinning
words around it that offer the appearance of what you
prefer, dude, no matter how hard you may try... And yes,
I know as I'm typing this that that phrase will feel like
Fresh Meat to fuel that OCD spinmind into yet another
round of the same...
As I always say, do carry on... ;)
(Sorry, JimW, hope you didn't mind this... ;)
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 10:44:33
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What is the real definition of a "liberal" these days... |
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Obviously Shadow, "definitions" of liberal or anything
for that matter, come down to what we agree or believe
them to be.
"Liberal" probably has become one of those terms that
is in a state of flux.
After reading the definition I provided, I reached the
conclusion, based on my own personal observation of my
life, that I probably fit their definition of "liberal"
more than not. Just my opinion based on my knowledge
of what I personally consider important to me.
Your observations may and probably should be different
than mine. Objectively speaking, that's to be
expected.
From a larger perspective, I would submit that Earth
Boppin, if it ever was a "liberal dominated" board, by
these definitions, no longer is. EB passed "liberal"
quite some time ago and has moved on for many posters
into somewhat uncharted territory that is anything but
"liberal".
When posters are deleted, belittled, bullied,
misrepresented, insulted and denigrated, then you have
a situation closer to the Sharks and Jets of West Side
Story fame: how'd that work out?
What's dominating EB now is in no way liberal oriented
but rather on the level of street gangs and hoodlums
masquerading as saints and saviors.
You have a choice here...
...you can continue the gang approach, or you can rise
above it and continue on the path to greatness most
posters here actually started long ago.
Beating on your own brothers and sisters is the wrong
approach in this advanced day and age.
All of us are better than that.
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 10:57:06
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Wow... Don't know quite how to thank you... |
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...Nevada, for continuing to provide increasingly-more-
perfect illustrations and examples of exactly how I've
characterized your offerings here...
...each one more fitting than the last! That's not easy!
You're too generous, sir...maybe I shouldn't have
encouraged you... ;)
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 11:07:11
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: you're quite welcome Shadow, as always... |
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It usually works better when the chains, knives and guns
are left off an even playing field.
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 11:25:05
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you're quite welcome Shadow, as always... |
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Then take them off your own table, get off your high-posing horse
and find your long, long Road toward looking us straight in the eye
ON an actually-level playing field... Pretty late in your game to begin
such a radical course-correction, but hey, miracles happen all the
time, eh?
...& this is the simulacrum of me you imagine exists on your stage, in
your own play, winking off it...
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 11:51:50
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you're quite welcome Shadow, as always... |
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"...& this is the simulacrum of me you imagine exists
on your stage, in your own play, winking off it..."
...actually Shadow I wish I had even a "simulacrum" of
you, but after literally years of reading your posts
here, I have absolutely no clue of who you are or what
you really think.
It's like posting to a total stranger and I've never
been able to break through to find out where our common
ground might or might not lie.
I guess I'm curious enough to want to keep trying.
Hopefully you have a clearer picture of me even if you
don't particularly care for it.
I've had many wonderful mentors in my life, some came
easily, some I really had to work at.
I'm sorry we've never gotten to know or understand each
very well.
Maybe somewhere else in time?
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Date: January 09, 2022 at 15:29:38
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Nevada, I know exactly where Shadow is coming from, but....... |
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you are drowning in your silly,juvenile games
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Date: January 08, 2022 at 14:08:29
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...can't help but notice you chose not to respond to Jim's post... |
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So many things we just...”can’t help but” notice, eh Mr. Lee? lol
Feel free to keep running your lines from the play happening within
your own mind... I am not present within it... ;)
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Date: January 08, 2022 at 14:14:43
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: you're definitely "present" Shadow... just not accountable sometimes(NT) |
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Date: January 08, 2022 at 14:23:49
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...lol... ;D |
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You have a good evening hon...
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