Date: August 09, 2020 at 01:41:42 From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address] Subject: the state of affairs...
lee said he was going to take a pass, but failed in his resolve, so i helped him...
karen said "ban me", so i did...
hog posts too much russian propaganda and divisive negativity...i fear she may be an operative...she's gone...
and logan is gone too...he is a chronic abuser of truth and politeness...
i'm tired of supporting the negative, divisive bullshit these posters have been propagating here...be warned, there are a number of you that are on the cusp of the same fate...
Date: August 09, 2020 at 12:02:21 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
One by one they are all banned, those who have had a different view point different from the Democrats. If I remember right, it first started with Trapper, and so on. Pretty soon there be no opposing views. I saw something similar happen on the Kathleen Keating website many years ago. She had some person as the overseer of the site who would delete posts or even ban the poster if didn't fit the narrative, it basically destroyed the site, a box of echoes bouncing off the walls drifting into space ( Jim Berkland's old board with the fee and sign in), and why I believe you started this site, which I'm thankful you did. I only wish that many of those banned would have had more control of themselves , seems they had too much time on their hands. I personally would have shut down the nation board sometime ago because of the intensity that is happening in this country, and because you didn't posters are being banned. It's your website, you do as you please, just like Jim Berkland and Kathleen Keating.
Date: August 10, 2020 at 08:32:46 From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Hi Chuckles,
> One by one they are all banned, those who > have had a different view point different > from the Democrats.
I'm sure it's just a coinkydink that people that don't share Mr Bopp's views have dropped one by one for years.... until there are only a few left here.
On the bright side I'm sure the few remaining will find Earthboppin a very agreeable place with a singular point of view.
Date: August 12, 2020 at 17:53:36 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: and any poster he doesn't like he lets them get savaged by others (NT)
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Date: August 12, 2020 at 05:21:18 From: Akira, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
"On the bright side I'm sure the few remaining will find Earthboppin a very agreeable place with a singular point of view."
Unfortunately that seems to be happening. It's not Bopp's fault people can't argue and debate without becoming belligerent.
What's almost worse are the people, right & left leaning who make claims, are confronted and proven wrong with factual information, but can't admit they made a mistake and posted something erroneous. One poster in particular does that regularly. Just my pet peeve. It is what it is. lol
Date: August 12, 2020 at 09:43:27 From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Hi Akira,
> Unfortunately that seems to be happening. It's not > Bopp's fault people can't argue and debate without > becoming belligerent.
It is common for people to go a bit overboard on topics such as politics or religion. Still a forum Admin who is fair but firm can keep things calm without removing all of one side of the discussion. That happens on forums all over the internet daily. When the forum moderator makes no attempt at fairness you end up with these singular point of view forums. When he changes names from ryan to Mr Bopp there is little change in his attitude or bias.
Date: August 12, 2020 at 11:39:29 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: he routinely allows posters to insult me without any hindrance (NT)
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Date: August 12, 2020 at 11:39:29 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: he routinely allows posters to insult me without any hindrance (NT)
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Date: August 10, 2020 at 17:00:40 From: John, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Ya know Jim, I think your thesis is lacking. I'll use a few of the current outcasts as an example..
Hog and Karen spent all day everyday dominating National's discussions with an ideology that is pretty much whatever the troll farms dish up as the daily talking points. They seemed incapable of discerning truth from fantasy and as such it was obvious they were puppets that spewed whatever the far right fringe was harping on at the moment. If only their points (opinions if you will) were founded in the truth I'd have to say you are right, they were ditched because their opinions weren't in line with Mr Bopp's. But that's not the case. They were ditched because they were spreading lies. All day everyday, lies.
Face it, at this point to unquestionably support Trump is to suspend any expectation of the truth. So we have a real problem. Bopp Man is right, lies, and vicious harmful lies at that, don't belong here, or anywhere. Or do they Jim?
I think National could be a great place to discuss differing opinions, but as long as the entire discussion goes round and round chasing, fact checking, lies, it's a bit much to expect. And besides, what do the Republicans stand for? What's to have an opinion about? Whether we continue to pay homage to the assholes that fought for the right to enslave people? Whether we agree that the presidency has absolute unchecked power to do whatever the fuck it wants?
This is an illusion created by the Republicans, when they acquiesced to Trump, and Putin behind him, to overthrow the constitution. This is hate rising up to overthrow love. Pure and simple. This is evil making it's play to destroy the good in people. This is as gross as it gets. And yes the Bopp Man has every right, and a little responsibility methinks, to steer the ship so as to keep it from being overwhelmed in these troubled times. That's my opinion. And hey, I am glad that he, finally, expects some semblance of the truth. Aren't you?
Date: August 10, 2020 at 22:12:36 From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Hi John,
The problem with political people is they think small... as if everything is about the hot topic of the day, at the moment Trump. But I was talking about a long term pattern by Herr Bopp and of all those over the years who have been banned or driven away from here. A pattern of behavior that has always allowed those who share his views get away with anything while he trolls and harasses others. I'm a firm believer that people can take different sides of a topic and discuss it civilly... but that is all up to a forum moderator to set the tone.
Date: August 11, 2020 at 11:48:00 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
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Date: August 10, 2020 at 22:47:19 From: John, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
"but that is all up to a forum moderator to set the tone..."
And here I was thinking the Bopp Man is one of the most patient and forgiving people I have ever known.. what else could you want? Anarchy?
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Date: August 10, 2020 at 22:41:37 From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
they have all been banned (and there aren't that many) for the same reasons i enumerated...the fact that in general we disagree politically, is, as you say, coinky-dink...i actually agreed with trapper on many things, but he went off the rails with his anger and negativity and in the end, i chose not to support his energy anymore...until this recent group, i can only think of trapper and griz that i banned permanently previously, although there may be some others i forget but basically a handful in almost 20 years...not that oppressive...i have given timeouts to some but let them back after some time...it is a pain in the ass and it takes time to ban someone....you still see grz trying to post regularly because he has figured out how use tor and proxy servers so i can't ban his ip...i will say the level of poorly sourced and presented information has increased dramatically since lardass was elected...i'm tired of it, and tired of letting folks get away with it...
Date: August 11, 2020 at 16:20:38 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Jim, their eyes are just as open as our eyes, they just have different colored lenses and see that particular view point. For myself, I prefer clear lenses so I don't have any discrepancies. As you can see with your eyes, the national board has now become one sided. Redheart will be there for any clean up if anyone dares posting on national with a different narrative than the majority, pretty disgusting, but they won't see it that way with their colored lenses. I miss Trapper, and going to miss Nevada and the others.
Date: August 11, 2020 at 19:25:56 From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Hi Chuckles,
And not only those banned, but over the years there have been many to leave because of the antics of Herr Bopp and the few. For some people right and wrong are more important than right and left.
Date: August 11, 2020 at 20:41:07 From: John, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
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Date: August 11, 2020 at 17:45:53 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Trapper sent me a post of pigs having sex surrounded by men in camouflage with rifles pointed on them. Being you you miss trapper... might it be your range of what is acceptable is well... not all that you measure it up to be and your clear lenses are not as clear as you deem them to be (?)
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Date: August 11, 2020 at 16:46:34 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Date: August 11, 2020 at 17:16:24 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
How is it eve you that you are always there being there to gently bully those who you don't see eye to eye with. I don't find your video clips of hamsters or whatever taunting those posters, very immature.
Date: August 11, 2020 at 18:06:57 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
What's it say about your maturity level to miss trapper so when he posted stuff like pigs having sex images and said something like "you can't unsee this once you seen it"?
So you would rather have memories of pigs having sex surrounded by men with rifles ????? or monkeys with guns kind of posts he made lots of those and hahahahaha'd said it was so funny....But cute lil hamster gif's or videos are just not dirty or violent enough for you???? I guess it's not chuckley enough for ya????
Bonus offensive feature...don't look...it's unforgivable, it's spinning hamsters in wheels! omgosh! it's immature cause it's not x-rated adult violence stuff (?)...shame on me...(not).
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Date: August 11, 2020 at 17:33:25 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Are you channeling "the" Chucky Chuckles entity?
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Date: August 11, 2020 at 17:24:20 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Not always.
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Date: August 11, 2020 at 11:32:56 From: John, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
Yo Jim, you sure know how to trivialize your own contributions here. Your inability to give a coherent, mature, response in this discussion certainly lost any respect I might have had for you.
The Bopp Man gave you a coherent response. He took the time to address your concerns, and yet all you have as a comeback is a cartoon?
Maybe I am missing something, but somehow I end up thinking less of you, rather than caring about your concerns. Is that the result you were hoping for? To have any respect others might've had for you lost?
Date: August 11, 2020 at 13:32:29 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: For context, the post I commented on was deleted.
And justifiably so.
So, feel free to disregard my posts here.
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Date: August 10, 2020 at 20:22:49 From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
that's a good assessment of where i'm coming from john...thanks...
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Date: August 09, 2020 at 13:11:50 From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the state of affairs...
you've got it wrong chuckles...it isn't about a different point of view...i don't have a problem with that at all...it's about the quality of what is posted, respect for others, and being part of a positive environment for social discourse...some folks are just too angry and belligerent for me to tolerate or support...if i had a dog that kept killing my chickens and snarling at visitors, i would get rid of it too...