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Date: April 30, 2019 at 12:02:32
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Some advice about this forum |
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I've been around EB for many years. I used to be quite active. But not any more. I still read because there's an occasional very interesting tidbit of info that I'm not likely to find elsewhere. And it reminds me of how insane the world is because I have a hard time believing it can be so insane.
Here's some observations regarding this website.
First of all, it's Ryan's. He can run it however the hell he wants.
Do you have to like it?
Do you have to like him?
Does he have to like you?
Does he have to do what you suggest?
Do you have to like other posters?
Do others have to like you?
Do you have to read what others write?
Do others have to read your postings?
Do you have to like what they say?
Do others have to like what you say?
Do you have to respond?
Do others have to respond to you?
Do you even have to come here at all?
Does anyone have to participate here at all?
If you answered yes to any of those questions, then not only do you have a problem, very likely YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
Get.
Over.
Your.
Self.
There's a lot here I don't like, and that's why I don't actively participant anymore. I have more important things to do with my time.
Not sure if this is a compliment or a dig, but this place is about as close to functional anarchy as I've ever seen. How it has survived this long with this level activity is a mystery. Maybe that is what keeps me coming here. Roadkill fascination.
Brian
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Date: May 19, 2019 at 04:42:46
From: freemind, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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Well said Brian. I'm
hoping that it's much
the same but yet
different. This used to
be my internet family so
to speak. I'm glad that
it's still here.
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 19:31:35
From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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skywise posted:
I still read because there's an occasional very interesting tidbit of info that I'm not likely to find elsewhere. And it reminds me of how insane the world is because I have a hard time believing it can be so insane.
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I agree with that. Reading much of what is posted on the National board is good practice in seeing how and why the world is tending towards insanity. However, so far most of the other posters in the other boards seem to be good, intelligent posters.
Eve mentioned porn in the “good ol’ days” (at Sysygy?), and I remember Grimmlord on the International board. After the first time, I never opened his posts because of the porn. There isn’t any porn now on EB (as far as I know), it’s more the irrationality of the posts in National that gives me practice in seeing how this world can become insane.
To me, georg actually has a lot of common sense posts that tend to counteract the irrationality on the National board. He angers a lot of EB’ers, good and bad posters, because he puts each sentence in a different line, pushing all the other posts down. Recently, georg and Jody/Concord had an interesting long discussion about UFO’s on the WOWs board, but then he started splattering the boards with a whole lot of one-line titles. He needs to put a group of those one-line titles in one post. Even then, his thoughts run counter to the irrationality that has become a big part of the National board. But again, good practice.
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Date: May 01, 2019 at 16:07:24
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: wow, a sign of sentience in the land! hooray for your post! (NT) |
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 19:56:46
From: Lily, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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Yes. I remember I got confused thinking John was you and
responded to one of his posts. Big mistake.
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 16:22:49
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: but because we disagree must we be rude doing it? (NT) |
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 14:46:00
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Very well said, Brian, and... |
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This is Mr. Bopps on line cyber home. We are here by
choice and we can be banned just as easy by the owner
of the door key.
In 3 months I will turn 80 years of age. For 30 years
or longer I have been on these sites going back to
Jim's boards.
I have been liked, disliked,kicked off the boards, had
many posts deleted and I am still here.
Why? Well, at the top of the list, I like, admire and
respect Mr. Bopp, even when he at times totally pisses
me off. But I am sure he would like to get rid of me
for good.
We are a slightly insane family. But the inherent
value is still here.
So, thank you Ryan/Bopp.
But one more thing, why do you let Georg pollute the
boards on a daily basis with his meaningless ego trips.
(Probably none of my business)
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 12:53:37
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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lol...good points brian...hope you are doing well...there's a lot here i don't like either...but it comes with the territory...there has been a large dropoff in quality since the glory days, but i too still find gems now and then that i would have missed if they weren't presented here...and there is always the plus side of watching one's self in action and using that input to create better output and for personal reflection...
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 15:02:23
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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Could be better, have been worse. Will continue to get better eventually. Long slow climb.
Actually, it was bashing my head against the various walls around here that taught me those things. I seem to recall being a bit of a pisser myself about things around here. But I learned.
Hopefully others will too.
Yes, personal reflection. I've learned things about myself from my time here. And have changed. Hence why I'm not as active as I once was. It's not that those things are no longer important to me. It's just that I now understand better when it's the right time to actually say something.
Brian
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 23:37:30
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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that all sounds good...i don't post much anymore either...and also have been a bit of a pisser at times as you well know...but it all sounds positive to me...
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 16:07:21
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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I remember back on syzygyjob I got a trojan took down a
computer from opening a post that had porn from a troller.
Those were the days.
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 16:09:08
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Some advice about this forum |
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p.s.
I mean the computer I had got a trojan virus (not me I was okay
but for the burden of cost).
:0)
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Date: April 30, 2019 at 12:29:26
From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Well said |
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I'll add, that none of us have to post, but I'll
grant that some of us feel compelled to post because
we care deeply on certain issues. Thing is, this is
a little (if active) forum and I'm not sure how much
difference it really makes.
Feeling compelled to get word out is all well and
good, if you can find the right venue and convey it
in a manner likely to be convincing rather than
alienating. As to the former, this forum is a lot
more open than most, but very few people are
effective at actually having a personality that
reflects well on the points they're trying to make.
None of us are the center of the universe, and while
individuals might be inspired to make small changes,
I don't think anything we post here is going to
change the world.
Small seeds, planted gently and watered might grow
over time. Ryan and a few others are far better at
that than I am and most others here are.
But most of us have a very blunt, abrasive
personality, and even the majority of "good" people
here are good in an egotistical "look at me" way.
I do think part of it is the fact that most of us,
and especially the most extreme people here, must
get dismissed face to face a great deal. We get
angry over time, and we don't deal with it or
promote our ideas in constructive ways.
Many think that because we've come to a forum where
nonmainstream ideas are discussed, then ours will be
accepted without question, or that they SHOULD be
accepted and lauded for our alternative thinking,
our bucking the system.
Thing is, when you get three people asking
questions....you get about five different opinions,
and no one is willing to be easily swayed from their
own pet theory to another's.
And for all that this is a relatively small forum,
paradoxically I do honestly believe like some folks
here....are not who they seem to be and do genuinely
believe that some...misrepresent what they believe
in order to undermine it with contrary behavior,
thus alienating people to the perspective they
pretend to support, deliberately. That is actually
a textbook reverse psychology propaganda method, and
some people here are....over the top in
stereotypical ways that really....aren't covered
even by mental health conditions or breakdowns.
Maybe I'm wrong...maybe it's my own small irrational
belief to make a small thing seem more important,
bigger than it is.
To find one's self worthy of questioning
is....frustrating (and I have responded very badly
myself in the past) but it's also a token of
respect. It's not immediate dismissal. People feel
like they're being picked on....sometimes that's
true. It certainly becomes true if you react
defensively and with anger and constant jabs.
Most of the time, up until the persecution complex
kicks in and develops a reputation, questioning is
nothing more than others trying to establish facts.
It is a testament to Ryan and the forum that it does
manage to continue, and most of the forums are still
pretty vibrant and functional. I don't agree with
all the decisions made, either, but then I could
never do what Ryan is doing. I second guess even
which route I take upstairs at work on my bad
anxiety days, and heaven forbid I ever moderate a
forum when I cycle into a long-term semi-rage.
Most of the forums I've looked into that started out
vibrant years ago have either been defunct for
several years, or have reduced to an occasional
vanilla how you doing post with the occasional porn-
bot jumping in.
Even georg and v in their/his (?) current state are
more interesting than that...though I definitely
wouldn't say better or preferable...
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