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Date: March 23, 2019 at 10:02:29
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Can grz be invited back now?


Since he was not passing along Fake News after all. But trying to spread the
truth, to deaf ears. His posts were so threatening to some, they had to have
him silenced, and removed.

If you took out the ones who did flood this forum with falsehoods, this place
would be a ghost town.


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6027


Date: March 23, 2019 at 11:59:13
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can grz be invited back now?


fake news...


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6031


Date: March 23, 2019 at 17:56:04
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...fake news or fake opinions Bopp...


...do you understand the difference?

Grizzly seems pretty real compared to the comments he
engenders.


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6032


Date: March 23, 2019 at 19:14:31
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...fake news or fake opinions Bopp...


too bad he can't follow the rules...


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6033


Date: March 23, 2019 at 19:57:59
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: too bad he can't follow the rules...


...all too often in life I've encountered people that
insist I have to abide by all the rules. All too
often I noticed that these same people were among the
first to play "loosey goosey" with the "rules".

So there must be something about "playing by the
rules" I just don't understand...

...like if "you" don't play by the rules, why am "I"
expected to?

...when it comes to "rules" something else must be at
play here that I don't quite understand.

Let's be honest... the "rules" on EB get stretched or
broken on a pretty regular basis... some here are
better at it than others but all play the game pretty
damn well.

What really makes Grizzly so different from the rest
of us? His viewpoints may seem "controversial" as
well as mine and as certainly yours can be.

I personally know that many of his thoughts,
especially lately, can be backed up by information
common to myself...

...which can't be said for a lot of the stuff getting
posted here daily, especially the Twitter stuff.

I think he's earned the right to come back and let
his "facts" be weighed against everyone elses'.

Rules have a way of evolving over time.

As do great civilizations of any kind.


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6034


Date: March 23, 2019 at 20:13:45
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: too bad he can't follow the rules...


egregious behavior...it takes a lot to push me to ban someone...


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6035


Date: March 23, 2019 at 21:01:39
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: egregious behavior...it takes a lot to push me to ban someone...


I was never a student at The University of Utah but I
did use their library on a few occasions. Egregious
behavior seems pretty extreme in most cases...

...are you sure it's the right term? After all,
you've banned me several times and I'm pretty sure
the term egregious never fit the crime. Could you be
more specific? I'd hate to think Grizly was a threat
to society.

Rule 5-111C--Egregious Behavior Examples
Purpose and Scope
There are instances when it is necessary to take
disciplinary action when staff members engage in
conduct that violates University policy, state or
federal law, or reasonable workplace rules. Some of
these cases can be handled through a progressive
discipline process. However, serious conduct issues
that are considered to be “egregious” may warrant
moving directly to termination of employment. This
rule addresses such cases and applies to staff
members (non academic) in all University of Utah
departments or units.
Definitions
Definitions for this rule are the same as those
identified by University of Utah Regulations Library,
5-111 - Corrective Action and Termination Policy for
Staff Members.
Rule
This list outlines some examples of egregious conduct
that, absent some substantial extenuating
circumstances, would typically result in termination
of employment and a Not Eligible to Reapply (NER)
designation. The list is not intended to cover all
possible conduct or behavior that could lead to
immediate termination of employment.
Examples of Egregious behaviors include, but are not
limited to:
Falsification of University documents, including but
not limited to providing false or misleading
information to take advantage of University benefits
or procedures or to gain employment, or other similar
conduct.
Violence or threat of violence, including but not
limited to conduct that causes or could cause a
reasonable person to fear physical harm or damage to
property, or other similar conduct.
Conduct that poses a serious risk of harm to people
or resources.
Violation of University policies against
discrimination, sexual harassment, or retaliation.
Use, being under the influence or possession of
alcohol in violation of the University's Alcohol
related policies 3-192, 5-113 and 5-114; or illegal
use of drugs and/or being under the influence of
illegal drugs while on University property or when
engaged in University business and when such conduct
poses a serious threat of harm to people, property
and/or resources of the University.
Drug diversion or other similar conduct.
Any conduct that threatens patient safety and/or
welfare.
Theft including but not limited to theft of services
or resources; theft or unauthorized possession or use
of University property, theft of time (falsifying
time to receive pay for time not worked), or other
similar conduct.
A conviction of, a plea in abeyance (until expunged),
or a plea of guilty or no contest to any crime that
adversely impacts the University community or
disqualifies an employee from performing their job.
Unauthorized and intentional access to or disclosure
of confidential, proprietary, privileged or
controlled information or records, or any similar
conduct.
Violation of applicable statutory requirements,
policies, or procedures that protect the environment
and the health and safety of others, or any similar
conduct.
Intentionally using position/affiliation with the
University of Utah for personal gain or in a manner
that brings disrepute to the institution or otherwise
adversely impacts the course of business and/or
operations of the University.
Should the decision not to pursue termination be made
in such cases, approval by the department's Cognizant
VP or designee in consultation with the Chief Human
Resources Officer or designee would be required. In
some cases, if the issue involved is outside the
purview of the department, or if a violation of Human
Resources policy/procedures is involved, then a
representative from Human Resources may perform the
function of defending the disciplinary action in a
grievance.


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6036


Date: March 23, 2019 at 21:35:16
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: egregious behavior...it takes a lot to push me to ban someone...


thanks for your concern...


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6037


Date: March 23, 2019 at 21:43:18
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: egregious behavior...it takes a lot to push me to ban someone...


...welcome I'm sure.


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