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Date: June 11, 2014 at 18:28:16
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the end game


to quote morrison, this is the end...I capitulate...I choose option 3...I have realized I am as much of the problem as anyone here so I am just going to remove myself from the fray...I've made it too easy for everyone: being your daddy, your scapegoat, your target, your analyst....you are all supposedly adults and I have given you all the guidance I can muster at this time...you should all know by now what trolling and baiting are...perhaps at some point I will be back, perhaps not...so you will have to moderate yourselves...I won't be around to clean up your messes...if you screw up your password you will have to take on a new nickname...the search indexes will not be updated any longer...I think the hosting is paid up at least through the end of the year, perhaps longer, I don't remember...thanks to Will (you're way quicker than me dude), and JOB and all of you who frequent these boards for your caring and sharing...you know I love you all...try to be nice to one another...
bopp out

ps: when you "die" and face your maker, think about what you have to show it...what essential part of your existence and being will you bring forth with pride and excitement and say, look, this is what I have for you...this is what I used my life for...


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Date: June 15, 2014 at 14:10:16
From: Anne Redwood City, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I am puzzled why the problem keeps getting deflected to
mr bopp as if he were the bad parent. This is about
respect for ourselves and each other and for the website
goal of sharing perspectives in a civil manner, not
about him. We're supposed to be monitoring ourselves so
the posts don't get so far out of hand that he has to
step in just to keep the whole site from capsizing. I'm
sure he is no happier about this than anyone else. If I
were him and had spent so much of my life creating
something to serve the common good, and then had to
destroy it to prevent if from being misused, I would
feel horrible.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 20:51:41
From: emoon - Palo Alto, CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I hope that this decision is reflective of Mercury and Neptune in retrograde (people often reverse decisions once the planet is again in direct motion.)

This is a wonderful collective forum you've created here and just like any other aspect of life, there will be rocky times so that each of us is "served up" the lessons needed to be addressed as catalyzed by the interactions.

If it goes away, the world will be a bit dimmer. I'm constantly learning through the forums I participate in. At the least, I hone my skills of discernment. " )

mr bopp, I've always found your own contributions and observations to be invaluable. Take a step back if you need to refresh, but please keep the possibility of continuous on the horizon.

elm " )


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 19:12:03
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Thank you Mr. Bopp for allowing me to post...I haven't been around as long as most here (6 years???) I appreciate your graciousness..and hope I did not offend others..I don't always agree...but I tried to keep my mouth shut..be safe and well...respectfully yours...


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 11:11:29
From: dakine, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


wow! I can't imagine who did what (I haven't stopped by this forum in
years and then just now..) but oh whoever it is boy do you got one bucket
of crap on your face!

I mean come on.. bopp pulled your asses out of the JOP got tire of your BS
stink.. and put up earthboppin.. (boy were you all sweet and loving as you
found this place after JOB shut you out!) and by all measures has put up
with all sorts of crap for what must be verging on forever.. and as he says
you're all adults!

but man.. bopp's the mellowest.. kindest.. most patient.. and I mean
patient beyond any reasonable measure! kind of guy going..

and loving.. I mean gee folks

so you screwed the pooch! got your panties all twisted in one big kine
knot!

well anyone who knows bopp knows he's forever.. love is after all forever..
or worthless yeah? and he'll roll over and forgive... even those who would
hurt him the most.. but then at some point a guy does have to move on..

it's just the pits that someone.. anyone.. me.. would find this when they
came around looking to see what's up with you folks

as they say in da islands.. aloha


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 09:33:27
From: catjo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I love you, bopp. I thank you for all you've done and all you do. >^..^<

Ps. Jerks, go away.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 02:09:39
From: Phil in Los Angeles , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I'm really going to miss you and I've learned so much from this great
forum. I've met some of the smartest people in the world and more
important some of the most compassionate.

We started out on a rocky beginning but eventually I learned that you
always fair and sincere.

I can't remember the name of that board that was on Syzygy that I
believe was the genesis of this site. Some of us came from there.

Anyway I sent you an email a whle back and I don't know if you ever
got it because you didn't respond. It's not important anyway.


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Date: June 15, 2014 at 14:06:43
From: Mae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Will Fletcher started Hot Sheets.
My mind is a little foggy about it all so I might have my dates skewed. I believe I was first online in 1997 and found a board hosted by Mitch Battros, he might have linked up with JOB shortly after. I rarely posted and when I did I used a male name, LOL. Most posters from there went to JOB's Site Synzergy and a few of us deflected the Kevin Peacock's for a short while and reunited with the Hot Sheets....Bopp gathered us from there however there was the loss of some major personalities.
I don't even view other message boards--limited time and I prefer this simple format.


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Date: June 16, 2014 at 09:09:24
From: Phil in Los Angeles , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Yeah, that pretty much sums up how this site came about.

I never posted on Hot Sheets but was a long time observer ( lurker -;)

I remember the toll it took on Will to keep the flaming etc. down.

One of the brightest ones there was Viz. He actually made an
appearance here on the Science Board a while back.

I too like this open format. It seems that the two things that you
should never bring up at a party, politics and religion, are the main
sources of problems and antagonism.

The reason being is there is no objective reality concerning those
subjects. Like two beasts in the wild each attempting dominance.
Combat ensues when rational communication breaks down and we
revert back to animal instincts.

This type of behavior comes from fear.


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 22:11:24
From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game

URL: See LINK


Glad you've taken my advice (see link) and are taking a time-out, but think about coming back at the end of summer.


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 16:11:17
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


No worries about the host being paid up until the end of the year.

I know what to do.

Like he said, "Just be nice to each other"

Jeff.


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 10:22:21
From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Damn!
Can't say that I didn't see it coming. Can't say that I don't blame you.
But still...felt it like a bat slammed into the middle.
Thought and thought what to say. Nothing appropriately pc.
So, here's hoping this will just be a well-earned hiatus, however long it will/must be.
Will miss you, Ryan. Muchly.
It's been good.
Thank you.
Take care.
CANDLES and WHEELS!
peaches ;-)


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 09:49:48
From: susanna, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Do agree with Cinnamon's post, in essence.

Your presence will be greatly missed!


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 08:31:07
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


permanently.

By now, we have all figured out that there are a small handful of posters that either:

1. need a constant "fan club" - and will do or post anything to make themselves the center of attention.

2. are obvious "bully" personalities - who have preyed on multiple posters, getting their "kicks" by attempting to intimidate multiple individuals from posting through their harassment

3. use this board to try to prove to others (and themselves) over and over again how politically correct and hip and modern they are by acting indignant at every little violation of political correctness

4. think that the more comments you post with ridiculous pictures but no refutation, the more names you call - the more you are winning the battle against someone who posted with actual facts and research

5. think THEIR point of view ought to be the only one posted, and are abusive to anyone who posts something in conflict with their own point of view.

Bopp, this small handful of individuals cause the problems on this board. They aren't going to stop. They never had any intention of stopping. They don't respect YOU or anyone else. They just demand the right to do whatever they want to do - no matter how outrageous. YOU can't "MAKE" them stop pulling buggers out of their noses and smearing them on the walls of this board - because they believe that is their God-given "right" that they feel they are entitled to.

These individuals should be permanently banned. They are arrogant beyond all belief. When you closed these boards a couple weeks ago, they found every conceivable way to get around your closing of the boards and still continue their methods of operating.

Instead, all the rest of us bear the consequences of these "nose-pickers".


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 13:15:46
From: karin in wa, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


THIS


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 09:12:12
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Cinnamon - your statements in essence promote capital punishment..


… rather than better more effective ways!

Banishments does not resolve the issues nor deal with the behaviors!

What each and all better figure out be better ways to deal with disruptors and antisocial
individuals to guide them towards playing fair and being nice.

BTW what manifests in these forums also manifests in real world and in some cases in
rather dramatic ways… we better find working solution for here and for the real world!
The thing is that it involves the uncontrolled controlling themselves … rather than
cultivating their natural inclinations of uncontrolled… In a way the conversation ought
to shift from what individuals desire to be to what individuals ought to desire to be…
thing is that some already desire to be what ought to be desired to be and the others
insists on refusing to embrace what ought to be desired based on the grounds that if
some get what they desire why can't they also get what 'they' desire… Of course the
answer involves the notion that 'some already desire to be what ought to be desired to
be' and others 'desire to be what ought NOT be desired to be'. The issue of: 'who
determines what ought to be (and what ought NOT be desires" is part of the 'distracting'
schemata that shifts the interchange from 'what ought to be' into 'what individuals think
ought to be'…

Bluntly put why if ---you all have figured out that there are a small handful of
disruptors--- is it that you all have played along with and in the disruptors tactics,
rather than asserted better ways? BTW 'some' may consider me a disruptor… a disruptor
of disruptors … that seeking to establish the better ways… Of course let's beware of the
'distracting' schemata that seeks to shifts the interchange from : what be to what some
think to be… in the subtle form of shifting from 1- "that seeking to establish the better
ways…" to 2- "you seek to establish your better ways". Let's focus on establishing the
better ways by cultivating the better ways!.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 11:02:59
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: et, circular illogic


You forgot the fact you are one of the disrupters with
your unasked for advice, counsel, judgments, preaching
etc.
Your objections to safe sex are a form of capital
punishment for society.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 00:39:28
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Cinnamon - your statements in essence promote capital punishment..


Lol! Either I'm way too tired, or I just don't see what this has to do with capital punishment.

I really don't have any unified, comprehensive view on capital punishment. It would be highly individualized based on the specific facts of the case.

And I sure don't want anyone killed. Wow....


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 09:02:19
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


And then there's the passive aggressive types that think
they know what's going on, pull boogers out of there nose
and stick it to the wall like it's a fact and then say
inane things in closing... like this...

Tee hee, gotta go, busy busy day blah blah blah... you
don't know anyone like that, do ya?... ;)


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 22:11:44
From: Lin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


I'm sad that you chose to be nasty to Cinnamon who is probably...
ok, in my opinion, one of the nicest posters here.

I do want to give you my thanks when you helped me out long ago when
creepy things were happening at my oldest son's house. I don' know if
you remember but his old girlfriend had went onto a very dark path.
You advised that he needed to send her clothes and possessions to her
when she went back to the easy coast. He did not. Several months later a
fire started in the apt. below me and I lost everything. At a red cross
provided motel room he actually came up and attempted to give me some
of her clothes. Of course I did no accept them and he has not talked to me
since. Oh well.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 22:35:07
From: Lin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


ps, the oh well was a short cut, otherwise it's about pain and not
something I want to talk about on the net........so
I should not have brought it up. sorry


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 12:25:51
From: susanna, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -

URL: http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/blameBadBehavior.htm



Blame Action Loops
It is not uncommon for people who engage in blaming behavior to also engage in selfish behavior. And as long as they are getting benefit from it -- whether monetary, emotional, comfort, entertainment or psychological stability -- they will continue to engage in those actions. But realize that most of the time the person is too busy doing the behavior to see their actions in this context. Look at the diagram below:

This loop takes on a different form in the blamer's reality. This is partly because 'evaluation' is run through a couple of other filters. As long as everything works out for the blamer, these filters won't necessarily reveal themselves. For example, both a blamer and a normal person choosing not to try to cross against the light will be working in basically the same model as above. However, when the action don't work out as planned (1), the simple action loop becomes more complex.


This is what could be said to be happening inside the blamer's mind (2) when his/her behavior does NOT produce the desired results. When negative consequences result, it is always someone or something else's fault. This creates a one way flow that serves the purpose to 1) protect the blamer's core beliefs, 2) meet the blamer's desires or 3) in accordance to his/her emotional state at the time. Realize these three elements form a complex -- and self-reinforcing -- cocktail. A cocktail that is beyond the ability of the authors to explain, except to say that it both a powerful motivational force for the blamer as well as something that he/she is dedicated to protecting at all costs. It is the continuation and protection of these 'filters' that leads to the rest of the process. Let's look at this process staying with the street corner analogy. Upon arriving at the red right (and despite the cross traffic), the person decides to cross any way. This is a selfish decision (while there might be a legitimate reason to cross, most jaywalking really is based in impatience -- which could be any mix of the cocktail). The results of this action is the person is struck by an oncoming car.

This is where the blame process kicks in, instead of taking responsibility for his/her action that had unintended consequences, the blamer begins to find reasons why he/she should be excused from the repercussions. Repercussions that the blamer doesn't believe he/she 'deserved.' (Being judgmental of both self and others is common among blamers). Obviously the blamer will blame the driver ... let's say for speeding, e.g. If he hadn't been speeding he could have avoided hitting the blamer. Another way the blamer commonly will try to avoid taking responsibility for unpleasant results is by telling him/herself something along the lines of "If my boss wasn't such a nagger about being back from lunch on time I wouldn't have had to try to cross the street." Somehow magically it becomes the bosses fault that the blamer got hit by a car.

But here is where things get squishy, although avoiding external repercussions would appear to be the motive (e.g. trying to blame the driver for insurance purposes), the main goal of blaming others is to protect not just one's own emotions or ego, but apparently one's philosophy. And that is where this behavior becomes both self-reinforcing and self-perpetuating.


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 10:23:58
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


I have a REAL life I life off of these boards.

I actually DO something rather than just shooting my mouth off all day long.

I am sorry that you don't, and therefore do not understand. You must be terribly bored and lonely.


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 14:45:43
From: JohnL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


I like your explanation of scripture. IMO, you have
the best understanding of the bible on the bible board.
My perspective is a little more conservative than
yours, but not nearly as humanitarian.

The modern christian songs don’t seem to have the same
worshipful quality of the older gospel songs.

I’m not bored and lonely, because I’ve been through the
school of hard knocks and I’m not out of the woods yet.
Just having christian faith has helped me “through it
all” (to borrow from the title of the christian song by
Andrae Crouch).


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 14:57:32
From: JohnL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: link to song

URL: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsmqul_bill-gloria-gaither-through-it-all-feat-andrae-crouch-live_music


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsmqul_bill-gloria-
gaither-through-it-all-feat-andrae-crouch-live_music

sung by Andrae Crouch with the Bill and Gloria Gaither
group.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 08:26:51
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: link to song


I like that song! It's an oldie, but goodie!


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 11:20:35
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


everybody has a real life.


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 10:57:26
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What aren't the habitual, incorrigable offenders removed -


Deflecting the image in the mirror, huh?...

Sorry, can't talk much right now, busy afternoon and
evening ahead, gotta run to work... ya know, work... see
ya... ;)


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 00:29:58
From: Cinnamon in Oregon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Whatever...shrug...suit yourself.


You appear to thrive on playing these sorts of games to harass and manipulate several posters on these boards. It works with some. Whatever, it is a free country... But I also have the right not to "play" your games.

If you chose to not comprehend that some of us limit our times typing on boards because we have other more important things to attend to, that is YOUR problem.

It only becomes "my" problem, if I chose to "make" it my problem. And I don't so choose.

I can't really be angry with you. I more feel sorry for you. I'm sure there is something in your past that has made you a bully. In my experience, bullies are very lonely people due to the way they treat others. I pray for you.

But I simply don't care what you think. So...think whatever you want about the way I spend my time.

Free country... I just don't give much of a hoot what someone thousands of miles away thinks. People can think what they want, more or less. I go on with my business.

Shrug...beats me...

Good night. Full moon coming in. Crazy last couple hours at work. I'm mentally "spent".


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 08:46:27
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Whatever...shrug...suit yourself.

URL: http://boppinalong.finddiscussion.com/


hubby said folks were really weird at work yesterday, very grumpy, inpatient, etc. I tried to tell him that he's probably learning the lessons that God would love for him to learn, patience, kindness and forebearance too. I think that your kindness toward others will get you through the day/s and want to wish you a happy Friday the 13th/full moon/ high solar stuff, etc.!

This is the day the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!!!!! :)

If this bd does shut down and I certainly congratulate Ryan for at least taking a break from all the infighting here, we do have a little group on facebook and there's also the other message board called "boppin along" that is still up (at the link) and we all have to register which prevents a lot of the problems we see here.
Hugs, Sheila
PS: Don't you love this rain? :)


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Date: June 14, 2014 at 04:55:36
From: Grits, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Whatever...shrug...suit yourself.


I haven't logged in to Boppin Along for a while. Hope my registration is still good there...figured that's where some would migrate...I don't do facebook...lol


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 10:57:16
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!


Would love to experience your facebook group.
I am Jim Wilhite, Portland on facebook.
You can see lots of pictures of me.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 11:46:26
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!


are you the "life coach"? I'm hesitant to place any links to the group as I do know there are some here who Sherry wouldn't want on there, she's the group leader and started it up.
In any case, there is a page for a Jim Wilhite with no pics?


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 12:44:46
From: sherry, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!


Anybody can join Friends of Earthboppin on facebook. But if it gets nasty or off track, I can always "unfriend" the member.

We don't get much traffic there, but it is a back-up plan for "if earthboppin" gets taken down.


Boppin Along is a nice alternative also. After Earthboppin went down a while back, we wanted to make sure we had alternatives to fall back on to re-gather our masses.

Neither of these take the place of earthboppin, and we will continue to be part of this group.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 12:39:31
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!


Yes, I am the Live Coach.
There should be a lot of pictures.
Email me, and we can get off this board and figure it
out, James3322@aol.com


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 12:35:24
From: TrishNrthrdgCA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!


Hi Sheila and Sherry, I am not a fan of facebook; in case all goes belly up here .... any other links where I can reach you guys?

Hugs, Trish


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Date: June 14, 2014 at 00:19:11
From: Eve in FL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!



Trish, I am like you...I don't do facebook or twitter, nothing and I still
wonder about the internet and proceed with caution. I only post one
place and it's okay if it goes as I don't have to. Wonder about all of this
network cyber thing experiment...I know I am in it, but oh well.

The place boppin along is not apart of facebook, one has to sign in
though I think. I have skimmed it a few times, but never have registered.
That might be a good alternative. That was shared with me before, so
hope I got that proper.

~Eve


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 12:40:43
From: sherry, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!

URL: http://boppinalong.finddiscussion.com/


Boppin'along is still up. Link attached.


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Date: June 14, 2014 at 13:00:54
From: TrishNrthrdgCA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Boppin along


Oh yes... still have it bookmarked !! Check in there occasionally .. it has been quiet. Thanks!


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Date: June 14, 2014 at 00:20:00
From: Eve in FL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Hey sheila!



oops, should have read one more sherry.

Thanks!

~Eve


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Date: June 12, 2014 at 07:40:07
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: remove 'the problem' will NOT resolve 'the problem' better to...


Re: remove 'the problem' will NOT resolve 'the problem' better to…

...appropriately deal with the situation in a more effective manner and learn once and for all what to do when
such matter 'flare-up'… Used to be that one could capitulate, gather some stuff and relocate… though now
it's time to determine and stand for one's ground… appropriately deal with the situation once and for all…
while establishing the guidelines one will embrace and cultivate.

Indeed each will have to moderate themselves… and/or clean up their messes… by choice or by force… of
course sometimes the best and only solution to a problem involves preventing it! In other words better and
simpler to take care of the plant and keep it alive than having to figure out how to revive it and doing what it
takes to revive it!

I was thinking about your 'ps' statements and wondered why is it that individuals wait till they 'die' to face
their maker especially when they could face Him throughout their lives! Kind of humorous for the creation to
consider that they can bring forth something of their own… in the last instant rather than thought their
existence… as if the ends justify the means… remember its a bit more than the ends or the means it's a
combination of them in a particular form…

perhaps at some point you will be back, perhaps at that time I will still be here and perhaps we will chat
again here and/or elsewhere…

Be well and do well and decide well


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3263


Date: June 12, 2014 at 05:45:09
From: chas kuchar/nebraska, [DNS_Address]
Subject: thank you for your efforts for the board.


as you say, you will be able to say to our maker that you made a difference in folks lives. thanks and I hope this continues till the second coming when we will all meet together and visit. chas


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3262


Date: June 12, 2014 at 05:12:12
From: LindaMarie, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I hope you will just take a break and decide not to
permanently leave us all. I remember way back when this
site was first created and so many have come and gone
since. I have learned so much from the people on this
board and could trust that most of the info I read here
was legit. Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best
and thank you for giving us Earthboppin.


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3261


Date: June 12, 2014 at 04:32:10
From: His Harper, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


If this is truly the ending of a great run listen for the sound of my harp strings ringing out "The Water is Wide" (tune name -- O Waly, Waly). Perhaps Nika you would join me on your flute?? Thank you Bopp -- may you have a safe and smooth voyage! His Harper


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3260


Date: June 12, 2014 at 02:24:00
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Well, in my book...I think your the nicest webmaster
I've ever ran across...the only one I ever knew that
was more for the person.... then the all mighty dollar.

I remember leaving my 10 year old job as an supervisor
and how most of us there, as supervisors..had taken
nursing from trash to treasure.. in the care of the patients...but I also know...sometimes you gotta have
time for yourself also. I also realized that the so called "experts" that had come.. in were such scumb bag crap Ryan...God forbid...they ever get the say so over the health of others. Their projected idea to keep the patients happy without ever spending an dime on them, was to hypnotism them to "happiness"...to live in an fake world.. of not questioning their motives and agenda's...just take the money and give an lame story "we did everything we could"...while the patient died. Our country is much in the same condition from the last previous years...our struggling is apparent if your an low wage earner.

I wish you all the best...I will miss earthboppin also. It is much like an close knit family...totally
imperfect. In an world of everyone expecting everyone
else to be perfect...we hardly know what that really is. I feel lost in ways as to getting information by
others when the site is lost. Anyone I disagree with right now, if I take the opportunity to say your wrong, your lucky...most the time I simply pass over them, as you can't change an snake into something it's
not...I've accepted that. I am really feeling sick to my stomach right now...that's when the biggies come in
(quakes) and I'm up checking things out when I came across this message to come to this board. Enough said, hope someday we talk again.


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3259


Date: June 12, 2014 at 02:22:13
From: ShakyD, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Bummer. Sorry to see you go, and I wish you all the best.
Most of all, I will miss your witty remarks.

I sense that you need a break. I hope that after some time off, that you will reconsider and come back.
I also hope that earthboppin can somehow continue, with or without you.


My observations:
Trying to maintain the peace on these boards must feel like babysitting a bunch of kinder gardeners. I don't
know how or why you had the energy to do it.
I also think you have been trying way too hard lately. I sense that a lot of what is said on these boards is
not what it seems. This medium is missing the non-verbal clues that we have in face to face conversation.
Some are better at expressing tone through the written word than others. What may appear as anger may not be
at all. When someone's words leave the impression that they are upset, it is hard to tell if they are deeply
upset, mildly annoyed, or just screwing with someone.
I think that if we all met face to face, that most of us would get along well (better than we do on these
boards).
I am not suggesting a face to face meeting, just trying to illustrate my point.

Take care. Live long and prosper.
ShakyD (long time lurker, occasional poster).


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3255


Date: June 11, 2014 at 22:45:34
From: conch/lake la, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Thank you Mr. Bopp...I don't blame you. I'm very grateful and
appreciative of you. Blessings to you. Sara


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3254


Date: June 11, 2014 at 22:33:58
From: nika, [DNS_Address]
Subject: so so so sorry for this decision!!!! yikes, please help fix this


problem everyone. this has been my family for years,
more than a decade. how can this happen? so sad


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3253


Date: June 11, 2014 at 22:32:36
From: Karen in IL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I love you and I will miss you; I also totally understand
and can relate to what you have to do to survive.

I really don't think too much more time will pass when
all of us will be 'together' again and saying

OH. I NOW GET WHAT ALL THE FUSS WAS ABOUT.

In full appreciation of what you have strived to do for
all of us, I bid you adieu.
Karen in Illinois


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3252


Date: June 11, 2014 at 22:24:40
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Thanks Mr Bopp, who wants to be a babysitter
all the time? Thanks for at least leaving the
boards
here... and sorry to hear of you not updating
the dream archive.. but maybe we won't have
that long
anyway for it to matter... things and
times are upon
us... it was good to know you and appreciate you
putting up these boards - may peace and love
be with you.


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3251


Date: June 11, 2014 at 21:55:38
From: terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game---No please don't go!@@@


NO MR BOPPER PLEASE DONT LEAVE THEY TORTURE US ENOUGH WITH YOU HERE ---WE HAVE ALREADY LOST SO MANY OF THE MASTERS WHO USED TO BE HERE WE NEED YOU PLEASE!!! LOVE AND Light terra


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3248


Date: June 11, 2014 at 21:24:04
From: Teresa N Cal, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


This news saddens me. I miss many who have left these
boards over time. Now YOU! Shalom Mr Bopp.


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3247


Date: June 11, 2014 at 21:14:38
From: sherry, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Mr bopp, come on. Wtf. Now is when we need you most.
Are you going to just disappear?
What about the board. Are we to dissolve.


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3246


Date: June 11, 2014 at 21:12:26
From: BJ, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


Be Well!

I'll miss "TROLLING!"


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3245


Date: June 11, 2014 at 20:41:01
From: Judy/W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


"always love you, you are one of a kind" thanks for the memories. Judy


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3244


Date: June 11, 2014 at 20:30:59
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: May peace be with you... my friend.(NT)


(NT)


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3243


Date: June 11, 2014 at 20:10:51
From: Jeanne/Tulsa, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game

URL: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=09BB1pci8_o


Love you too mr bopp. For you... Dizzy Gillespie..."Bebop"!


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3242


Date: June 11, 2014 at 19:41:30
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: wise decision


be well


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3241


Date: June 11, 2014 at 19:15:56
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game? Let it be the beginning game!!!!!!


I regret anything I have done to tip the scales where
you feel a need to withdraw.
PLEASE stick around. It no longer is the Bopp site
without you.
You have been a good, successful leader. Some of us
have behaved like assholes.I certainly have.
Things are getting better each day.
Please don't leave 5 minutes before the miracle.
Crack the whip for a few weeks more and you will WIN!
The "out of control 7" have made strides to be better.
So you have made progress.
With respect and admiration,
Jim W. aka James in Portland


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3256


Date: June 11, 2014 at 23:47:03
From: Lin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game? Let it be the beginning game!!!!!!


I've tried to keep quiet because for a long time I've no longer had the
energy for the majority of bs that took over the national board...
Having stated that, it appeared to me that you at least made an attempt
to offer an alternative point of view. Tonight your post about Esk on
stoning people...seeing T's response only confirmed that he has no
conscience when it comes to the negative part he has played on this site.
Dan has also tried to communicate a rational viewpoint which I
appreciated. As well as other nice people.
Sad to see it come to this.


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3287


Date: June 12, 2014 at 15:10:27
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: A big thank you, Lin, a classic example.


I sincerely miss you.
You spoke many truths.

I know I was blamed by some on the boards being shut
down, but my position on trapper claiming the elderly
who had to wear diapers were assholes and a drag on
society infuriated me and so I went on a determined
quest. Both my parents dies with diapers on and it was
not a fun way to go. They were not assholes.
Of course BJ calls them useless eaters.

I got zero support in my quest.
Spend some time in an end of life facility and you just
might develop some compassion.


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3291


Date: June 12, 2014 at 18:11:50
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: A big thank you, Lin, a classic example.


James, he's the same guy who calls himself 'empathic'. He's completely deluded and not worth giving a second more of your time arguing with or defending against. Don't waste any more precious time giving a fuck what these people think. Put your energy into whatever you can do to feel as alive as possible for as long as you can. Leave them to themselves and be grateful for who you are.. my dos pesos ciao


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3292


Date: June 12, 2014 at 18:21:03
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Akira, you are SO RIGHT


Thanks for calling me to the curb as it were.
I needed a verbal spanking for getting caught in their
web nonsense.

If you met me, you would find me the most happy fella.
But my character defect is sticking up for the little
guy to the extremes.

Being obsessive, compulsive addictive it is something I
have to monitor on a daily basis.
I will be 75 in six weeks and in my hippy days, I was
one of the first to be out there with a sign marching
against the Viet Nam war. We wasted a lot of energy,
but I made some dear friends for life.

Akira, I deeply respect you. I love your posts, your
dry wit, and your take on the human condition.
If you ever get to Portland, lunch is on me, Salmon of
course!
Blessings!


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 04:46:08
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Akira, you are SO RIGHT


Thanks for the kind words & I love salmon, especially when marinated & grilled with a little mercury, cesium, tamari & garlic.

Mozel tov, may you live to 120, as God's most favorite people in the world like to say.


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3290


Date: June 12, 2014 at 16:52:23
From: Lin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: James


I did not read those exchanges. I do know that those two seemed to enjoy
upsetting some posters. I figured out a long time ago that it was best to
not take things personally and sometimes it was hard to do.
I understand why that would make you upset.
Although a determined quest with people who like to get your goat
probably wouldn't have a positive result.

All the best to you and your family.


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3288


Date: June 12, 2014 at 15:58:30
From: BJ, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "Of course BJ calls them useless eaters."


"Of course BJ calls them useless eaters."

Why do you insist in posting inflammatory crap when you have no idea about about my meaning of useless eaters?

Bopp spanked you and you still don't "get it."

For the record my meaning of useless eaters has NOTHING to do with the elderly.

I don't know the etiology of your cognitive disconnect.

Why don't you think before you put your mouth in gear


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3279


Date: June 12, 2014 at 11:24:55
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game? Let it be the beginning game!!!!!!


only a negative to those who dont like the truth.


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3286


Date: June 12, 2014 at 15:05:28
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Your truth idea, and...


what truth really is, is not the same thing.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 08:51:19
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Your truth idea, and...


that mental device should keep your thinking stagnant for a while longer.


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Date: June 13, 2014 at 10:54:22
From: Jim W., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Your mental device idea, and


what my mental state is are miles apart.
Your "mental state device" is out of order.


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3240


Date: June 11, 2014 at 18:47:44
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the end game


I've got no worries on that front... seriously... :D

But dude, don't bail... stick around... cut loose if you
feel like it... who knows, maybe it'll be therapeutic...
;)


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