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Date: October 21, 2024 at 14:43:17
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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...most people posting over the years knew how to
participate in an adult and respectful manner.
What has changed so much that we can't even recognize
each other let alone respect our diversity?
What kind of example are we leaving for our kids and
grand kids?
I love all of you here...
...why do you now think otherwise?
I hope this changes for the better before we lose what
little we still have left.
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 15:37:06
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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to be blunt what changed has been the big bopper. back in the day he was
a bit of a smartass but actually believed in staying on topic and no
personal attacks. this version of bopp supports his buddy telling long time
member karen she must want her pussy grabbed whenever she talked
about trump. she no longer feels safe here as that dude’s hate often spills
over into physical threats. this version of bopp thinks his buddy’s stalking
and trolling of akira is “flirting”, a worrisome word in that context
had many people in my life who turned bitter and angry later in life
because of tragic life events that we all have to deal with and some people
it just sours them. kinda makes me sad to see what this place has become
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 16:02:10
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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I actually like ao a lot... some of the things he has
posted are really well thought out and show a great
depth of knowledge and understanding...
...then he has a "groping" moment which obviously
spoils everything.
ryan has some of the same issues extremely smart and
talented, but prone to his equivalent of "groping"
issues that immediately erase most of the really good
moments.
It would be a shame if we lose all the good stuff
because we forget how good we all can really be.
I appreciate your patience and perspective ot.
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 16:53:37
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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problem is “gropers” that are allowed to continue tend to poison the
whole environment. a lot of damage can be done when you foster an
environment where “groping” is encouraged and allow people to feel
threatened
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 17:31:27
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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...the "groping meme" and those similar to it, are
destroying meaningful and effective dialogue all over
the world ot...
...left unrecognized and unchecked, it will destroy
adult conversation and dialogue for a long time to
come.
I continue to post on EB because I still think I can
make a positive contribution to the EB conversation
although that appears not to be the case at all. The
harder I try, the more I seem to fall back in the eyes
of those who are currently setting the guidelines.
It disappoints me that I seem to be failing, it
encourages me that at least I keep trying mostly
knowing I will be bullied and insulted...
...what better environment to test your beliefs?
On my part, I have shifted my information and thought
gathering to a handful of you tube channels hosted by
extremely intelligent and also respectful hosts who
seem relatively unchallenged by some of the childish
behavior now common on EB. At least I know that that
level of maturity and taste actually does exist in
todays world and may actually become more commonplace
hereabouts sometime in the future.
Meanwhile, it's apparent I've become somewhat out of
limits here, but at least I still have access elsewhere
to many of things that attracted me to EB so many years
ago.
It's all part of a growth process and I've probably
learned more about humanity generally by my time spent
here than almost anywhere else.
Surviving the EB experience is definitely not "Childs
play".
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 13:19:20
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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"I have shifted my information and thought gathering to..."
Interestingly, I participate in a forum that has a different take on management.
There the admin doesn't deal with people's humbug about civility and all that.
They don't put up with outright attacks and the like but personal crap goes by
without comment with the philosophy being that's a window into society.
These are our neighbors, deal with it.
What doesn't get put up with is whiners. One bitch about another's trolling and
such and you get a warning, bitch some more and you're gone.
I find those that make noise in that less regulated space make only as much as
they get a response.. trolls that don't get a response leave.. people that stay
around adjust, fall into whatever the common ground is.
The lesson remains the same.. you, we, create our reality. OT creates the
bullshit he bitches about. Not Ry, not me, not Red, OT creates, as does
everyone else, what they get. As such I'd suggest you ask yourself why you
feel the way you do about EB? There's a gem in there somewhere.. just for you.
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 16:13:38
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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“There the admin doesn't deal with people's humbug about civility and all
that.”
yes, we’ve noticed. kind of a bummer since once upon a time the admin
here believed in stay on topic and no personal attacks and this was an
active and interesting place
why do you no longer believe in civility?
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 20:42:25
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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I believe in civility to the max, OT. But rabid dogs? Serial liars? Thieves? Not
so much. And liars that insist their lies be 'respected' as truth, which to me
is an assault, is violent. Nah, I believe that kine shit needs to be dealt with
much more severely than it is.
For me the fact that there are people sitting in jail for 1/6 and Trump walks
free is criminal malfeasance. To me the DOJ has let us down. To me the fact
that the GOP walks free of accountability in 1/6 is completely unacceptable.
And the idiots that parrot their lies certainly should not be allowed to be a
part of civil society. They are liars, they are a national security concern.
Literally OT, why should they be allowed to vote? They are hell bent on
talking our rights away so fuck them.
Really OT, why should a group of people that tried to overthrow our
government be allowed to vote? Seriously man, they are criminals.
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Date: October 23, 2024 at 22:47:52
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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your entire response was just another damned rabid anti gop rant. but the
question was why do you think civility is humbug? this obviously isn’t just
about the gop as your behavior on any subject could never be described
as civil. a good example is akira who could never be thought of as gop.
you are extremely uncivil in your interactions with her. you do seem to
have succeeded in making earthboppin a place without civility so mission
accomplished
is this another side of the sociopath thing? it would make sense as i’ve
never seen anyone rant about their reasons to be uncivil. i suppose
someone lacking empathy would find civility to be humbug
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Date: October 24, 2024 at 00:05:41
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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perhaps you could be an example of civility...
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Date: October 24, 2024 at 00:38:25
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...is it really that hard to participate in an adult forum? |
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other than a few cuss words i have been damned civil
what are your thoughts on ao wanting to end civility, that civility is just
humbug? do you still believe in civility?
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 15:53:30
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Nevada, Old Timer |
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Both of you are absolutely hilarious... ;D
What has CHANGED is that we are now facing a choice
between a country run on authoritarian Fascism, and one
that continues trying to fulfill the Constitution and
Bill of Rights this country was founded upon, for All...
There is nothing whatsoever of humanitarian goodwill
within the GOP Platform -- end of. Nevada, I know you
truly believe you've succeeded in spinning this fact out
of its core truth...you certainly gave it more than your
best over those years, and you'll still break the rules
here STILL trying.....but you simply cannot...
Having our basic rights and freedoms threatened in the
way the GOP is currently doing will bring out the most
passionate objections from ANYONE WITH A FUNCTIONAL MIND
AND HEART AND SPIRIT... I can't speak for Ryan/Mr. Bopp,
but I'd be willing to bet this is where anything you
object to is coming from...it certainly is for me...
Oh, and Nevada? You don't love anyone here...lol...if
nothing else were graphically obvious, that certainly
is... Love can't be spun...thank God... ;)
Your endless haranguing of him because the National and
International boards are scorching hot anymore over the
very Spirit and soul of this country being threatened,
with Ryan/Mr. Bopp agreeing, is nothing but you acting
like tiny little boys whining that Daddy won't like what
THEY say instead of the others.....
It is what it is, and it's not what you say... Grow the
fuck up...
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 16:10:36
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: It is what it is, and it's not what you say... I agree completely! |
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...perhaps both of us should take a closer look before
we destroy all the good things that we still share.
Also, there may be children reading our posts, you might
want to respect that before they get the wrong idea of
what's it's like to participate in the adult world.
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 18:05:33
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It is what it is, and it's not what you say... I agree... |
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Nevada, I wish you could experience what it's like for me
to read your posts...
I experience every single word you say as *locked and
loaded,* meaning that what you *say* is never what it
appears to be, at face value, but is being crafted as it
is from an *intentional agenda of creating a specific
effect*... The image of someone launching a boomerang
from around a corner comes to mind... You know it can't
work as it's presented...yet something's groping to
suggest something else... ;)
I surely do wish there had been good things between us TO
share, Nevada. Certainly nothing's passed between us on a
personal level that'd endear; my own life experience
recovering from abuse and trauma has sharpened my radar
for manipulative verbiage as well as my boundaries
against engaging with those who operate at this level,
and you'll always be outside them...
And I do certainly hold dear the fact that we, like all
American citizens...at least for the moment...share those
*good things* we call our basic rights and freedoms
promised us in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, so
that can be noted... I'd also note that the most divisive
reality existing between us is the fact that I will not
back down from ensuring everyone who reads anything I
post realizes *as best they can* that any vote for the
GOP and the inept DJT is a vote that slaughters the very
Spirit, rights and freedoms this country was forged
upon...beyond what many seem willing to take even a few
seconds to real-ize before it's too late... This is
divisive between us because your stance around this has
always been to deflect, spin away and distract from the
bottom lines I've just described, with everything you've
ever said...
The word *disingenuous* doesn't even cover it...
And that faux-parental tone and stance you take with me
quite often...this time, reproaching me for my language
and suggesting "I don't respect children" because *they
might come upon what I've posted*...and "get the wrong
idea of what it's like to participate in the adult
world"...lol...and that one was quite a reach...
I do wish it had been possible to connect well with you
as a person, as a human being, as I have with several on
this forum...but as I've explained, I've always
experienced your energy as duplicitous, disingenuous and,
frankly, not to be trusted...and I'm not sure what could
change that...
That's my closer look...
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 18:44:22
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It is what it is, and it's not what you say... I agree... |
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While it would be nice to be best friends with everyone
in life and is something I would certainly encourage,
respect and encouragement for each other is definitely
something within our power.
More than once in my life, people that did not like me
for whatever reasons have evolved in to lasting and
rewarding friendships.
Sometimes it doesn't work, but you'll never know unless
you give it a chance. As I get older I am beginning to
realize it is a lot easier and more healthy to be a
good friend than a good enemy.
I hope we can get past this in time to be really useful
to a changing world that could really use a helping
hand about this time.
Snarky or abusive language at any level tends to hold
all of us back from being as creative and loving as we
were probably meant to be.
I'll try if you will.
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Date: October 21, 2024 at 20:07:34
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It is what it is, and it's not what you say... I agree... |
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Nevada, reading this, my first impression is that you
need to read what I wrote you again... What a surprise...
You are neither friend nor enemy to me, and you never
will be. I love you as a fellow human being created by
our Creator. I would give my life for your freedom, if it
were necessary and it would secure it, just as I would
for anyone else. I respect you, as I do all my fellow
human beings, but I do not respect the energies and
orientations I feel behind and within your words
regarding humanity's rights and freedoms, and the
predicament our country is currently facing... I do, oh
my yes, encourage you toward discovering the crucial
importance of standing down the current global and
national campaign to establish Fascism in this country,
for the sake of being able to be *really useful to a
changing world that could really use a helping hand about
this time*...
I use whatever language feels appropriate in the moment
to express things that feel so urgent and crucial...and I
do so as creatively and lovingly as I can...lol... And
again: Your superior-pose parental parry falls flat...
I allow no one whom I feel distrust toward, as I do you,
anywhere closer to me than you are right now. The only
thing that could change my chosen proximity to you would
be if I felt genuine resonance, in you, for the same
values I hold...which I've outlined many times, including
in my last post...and which I've never felt to be present
in your makeup...
We're done here, Nevada...you yourself have established
the precise proximity that exists between us... ;) We've
been done for a very long time, if you could but grok
it... ;)
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