Date: May 15, 2024 at 13:58:07 From: old timer, [DNS_Address] Subject: the solution to our problems
already exists in the rules bopp’s laid out. certain people spend their time flaming, trolling, stalking and in personal attacks. others goal seems to be off topic posts when they don’t like the topic. if people didn’t do these things boards wouldn’t have to be shut down
a good, general mission statement for the boards as elucidated by etc., one of our posters... "...it's possible to share personal points of view without degrading others. I think it's more effective to do so. It moves the discussion along instead of putting on the brakes and getting nowhere in the muddy waters. And if a person has a strong point, it should be able to stand on its own without an attack. Words that hold weight."
Rules and Guidelines The basic rules for posting are quite simple. Stay on topic and don't make it personal. No flaming, trolling, stalking or personal attacks. No porn or advertising anywhere. Abusers will get a warning...further abuse will lead to a timeout...further abuse will lead to permanent banishment.
Date: May 15, 2024 at 16:22:03 From: old timer, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
agree with you both. bopp doesn’t like babysitting and when he does play moderator he only looks at the right. the lefties that ignore his rules and stalk, troll and do constant personal attacks will have to control themselves
Date: May 15, 2024 at 18:45:20 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
I find that true-- and wonder why- is he more favorable to the left when he is more favorable to the independent. The left is no more recognizable by me personally. I'm not left or right-- In the middle- most times. But I feel its all just political jibber jabber. I feel the more one focuses on being correct, truth teller, the more one attracts the negative connotations of that. In other words, to live peacefully in this life or on this site is a narrow road to walk. The more people here talk/communicate about who they hate: such as Trump, the more they keep focusing on what they don't want is unfortunately what they are going to get- the same is true for focusing the hate on Biden, or any other political persons, the more they will get of what they don't want. Its true the politicians really do not care about this country at all- its something else- power, money, prestige, whatever and it plays right into destroying this country and dividing people.
Date: May 16, 2024 at 11:07:11 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Sorry, pamela, but far as I'm concerned, that whole *principle of attraction* dynamic is profoundly, grossly oversimplified and mischaracterized.......
As I understand things, we *attract* literally everything we require to fulfill our soulgrowth designs created in higher realms before birth with the help of Spirit, whether those qualifies, situations and people *appear* to be *the kind of energy we consciously want to attract* or not... As we clear the issues that gave rise to each soulgrowth situation then, yes, our frequency/resonance rises...but not simply by our deciding to *only focus on the positive*... Quite often deep excavation into shadow work is the only way that happens, and I've seen many people spend most of their lives *focusing on positivity* and using that surface focus to avoid the very issues that'd generate forward movement... This country has some profoundly dark *shadows* in its history...and whether we'll process and clear them for all time, or do a deep dive backward in history, is the question here...
Claiming freedom, sovereignty and our civil rights, personally as well as en masse, is entirely necessary to fulfilling the destiny of this country, as I see things...and while politics has certainly revealed some very vivid and garish true colors, I don't see this as political *at all,* but rather an issue of our choosing *humane civilization,* or not...
Date: May 16, 2024 at 11:58:33 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
At May 16, 2024 at 11:07:11, shadow wrote:
Sorry, pamela, but far as I'm concerned, that whole *principle of attraction* dynamic is profoundly, grossly oversimplified and mischaracterized.......
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its a sticky wicket here at Boppin. I don't care to engage with all the back and forth self righteous inflamations. Neither left or right. Occasional will contribute- yes. What people focus on they will attract to themselves - good and bad. I see the left getting into authoritarianism and fascism just as heartily as the right. While its all good to speak up against the wrongs seen on both sides- its not a healthy practice here on this site.... basically thats all I have to say.
Date: May 16, 2024 at 12:13:17 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
As you please, of course...
But when you say, "I see the left getting into authoritarianism and fascism just as heartily as the right," I'll have to come right back with:
Um, no. There is nothing remotely Fascist about anything within Democraatic idealogy. Nothing.
And while it's more than obvious that there are individual democrat sellouts to GOP/Fascist/global- corporacratic financial values, especially in Washington...for the most part, in the general population I see the right *accusing the left of literally everything the right, itself, is doing,* which is one of the more transparent and ridiculous accusations they've come up with thus far...
You can choose not to discuss it all you like, and I'll certainly respect that by not directing anything else your way... Sticky wicket though it is, it's our current reality...and while the principle of attraction operates from far higher levels than I see you acknowledging, just going by what you say, the rightwing GOP *will attract* nothing but the natural, inevitable kickback of attempted masse manipulation...
Date: May 16, 2024 at 14:02:02 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
I'm doing my best, ao...
Citing that happy horseshit I posted about the other day, where that GOPer official was claiming that the KKK was the secret Democratic army.......omfg!!! lolol!!!.......it's become so obvious that GOPer folk have totally abandoned rational thinking and discernment entirely, and are spewing and grabbing onto *literally ANYthing* that sounds like it disses anything Democratic...
Date: May 16, 2024 at 17:35:46 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
In Heinlein’s telling there’s truth in myth. And authors such as Baum and Verne, Burroughs, and Orwell have had more influence then the mere telling of fantasy..
I think Fractured Fairytales went further in forming my perspective than my mom ever wished when she would tell my sis and I to watch the tv.
So yeah, where is the boundary between truth and illusion? It’s just the nefarious nature of the current thrust that’s turn this into a circus with nightmares full of really scary clowns rather than the glory of endless discovery that life should be. The frantic assumption they have to win at all cost.. the idea, the very idea, that their happiness is dependent upon other’s unhappiness, is mind boggling.
But the GOP has bought the ticket, and they’re dead serious about regaining power with an eye towards never letting it go if they do.
Did you ever see Dylan's Masked and Anonymous? It’s got a comical bent to it, but oh what a parallel to our times. And omg what a great cast.. talk about belly laughs.. which these times sorely need..
Date: May 17, 2024 at 03:34:09 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
My sense is that what all's outpicturing in our Now, especially its quantumly surreal nature, will become fodder for some pretty amazing *new stories/myths* that'll arise over these next years...some very creative and inspired ones carrying the core theme that love inevitably wins over fear in all its guises, good eclipses and encompasses evil, inclusion eradicates division, wholeness heals brokenness, triumph is destined to reign over despair...
No, I've never seen that, thanks, I'll have to check it out!
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 12:37:23 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
you so funny ... shadow ... very appropriate name for such a dark vision
Date: May 16, 2024 at 12:44:16 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
no suppression ... the need freeing for the tyranny that they have fallen into ... it is you that are wrong headed ... why do women have breasts? hm? to feed infants ... get the picture yet? did you have a mother that fed you from her breasts?
Date: May 16, 2024 at 16:02:45 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Two become one in a truly real union of the Almighty....
➡️ So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
➡️ There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 14:46:30 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
see, now you are all feigning indifference ... no mothers in the bunch ... pablum and formula ... probably soy and you got no testosterone to speak of ... is that your problem bunkies? men have a penis to impregnate women so they can have babies ... did you never do that? you are men? really? how awful for the species ... I have many children and love them all ... they came from my body and they carry my DNA ... how about you "guys"
Date: May 17, 2024 at 11:29:02 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
yes, and it is XX and XY and that's it ... even the word "transgender" is a lie ... what? rip a child's gender out of his or her DNA and "fix it"? these people are insane ... it is the same as any mutilation ... self hatred ... why was I born, why am I living? they have no purpose or hope so they try to deny their very existence
Date: May 17, 2024 at 21:33:37 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Elwood Babbitt who was one of the most rarest high trance mediums that worked with the well known Professor Charles Hapgood, spoke of while under of why people who prematurely reincarnated too soon, carried over their previous energies of what sex they were in their prior incarnation. So if they were male in their former life, and now born in this life as a female, they would have male tendencies to where it may seem that they are gay, but in actuality they reincarnated too quickly. Yes it is insane in what's going on saying it's OK to change one's sex. It has been my theory, and I have posted this here, why not try and see by doing some past life regression work with people who are gay to see if they were of the opposite sex in their previous life, and maybe by being exposed to that, they can be relieved of that past life energy, just as the patient in the book called Many Lives Many Masters by Brian Weiss who was healed of her life traumas that were related to past lives.
Why not just accept people for what, for who, they are? All that hocus pocus.. past lives, future lives, why not just be here now and accept folks for what they are without all the judgements? And yes, Chuckles, what you are suggesting is a judgement. And a not very flattering one at that.
Who cares? The fact is people are here, now, in your face. So embrace them, as they are, whoever they want to be, Period. Otherwise, all that other bs, is on those imposing it. They are the ones who are 'sick' if anyone is. They are the ones that need to change. They are the ones that need to be held accountable for the bs they create if anyone does.
People, all people, every single one of us, are Mahu. There is no way around it. We all have masculine and feminine traits. All this talk otherwise is the problem. Is the sickness. Fucking human beings.. just accept.. otherwise YOU are the problem.
Date: May 18, 2024 at 10:52:07 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Your anger is obvious, and once again you are clueless! Get help for your anger. I actually have gay friends, nothing I said was in any way hurtful, it's your anger in life that is hurtfulto others . You have a tendency to troll those you don't agree with, and knew you would be trolling eventually. You didn't even bother to read Eldwood's Trance messages where there is no hate but loving Oneness. Get a grip of yourself!
Date: May 18, 2024 at 14:18:13 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Um...okay, obviously I can't speak for ao...and ao, if I say anything you don't like, here, please feel free to pipe up...
But Chuckles...yes, ao's pretty pissed off, I can see that. ;) I get pretty pissed off, too, which I'm sure you've observed.
I'm familiar with Elwood Babbitt, he offers a lot of beautiful wisdom...but I hardly think that's what ao was reacting to...... I'd be willing to bet my rent that ao's anger had more to do with your statement that "Yes it is insane in what's going on saying it's OK to change one's sex"...given that he attached an article about the Hawaiian cultural understanding of Mahu, which recognizes with equality and respect those who feel inclined toward expressing the opposite gender of what they were born as...
Some people, Chuckles, find the need to change their actual gender *as physically/completely as possible.* You call that insane, and cite the well-known possibility that past-life issues, difficulties shifting into one or the other gender when the opposite one has been prevalent, or dominative, or whatever, can be at least part of the issue...and that that can be worked with so that the person can more comfortably live in the skin and gender they were born to.
You say this as if that explanation should be the be-all and end-all for anyone feeling inclined toward changing themselves so totally gender-wise. That really going through with such a thing, as "insane," should be given up in favor of engaging past-life therapy, or whatever other angles of approach might be seen as a viable substitute for doing so.
This is what I think pissed ao off. It pisses me off, too. ;) Because, my dear, who are you to say what anyone in this position should do, or not do? Hm?
Are you in their skin? Can you say you know what it is to experience all they do? To have any kind of valid, working knowledge of *what is best for them?*
Yeah, sorry...you don't...
...and you know nothing of what is best for any one individual who's experiencing this...
And if that pisses *you* off, I suggest you get a grip! ;)
Date: May 18, 2024 at 16:07:02 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
You're taking it totally out of context, and yes probably shouldn't have used insane, sorry for that, but I don't like seeing young children having sex change operations. If adults want to do it, fine! And yes it did have to do with what was said in one of Elwood Babbitt's books about being reincarnated too fast, and why I felt some years ago that different past life therapists should get together and study this to see if what elwood was saying in his book about people who were reincarnated too quickly carried over that sex from their former life to their present life. But no, you and ao have to chime in and stir up the pot by trolling others with hurtful words by taking everything out of context in what I was trying to say. You lady, aren't a very nice person to some of us here. Quit acting like you're an evolved soul and grow up.
Date: May 18, 2024 at 16:48:11 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
I didn't take it out of context at all, Chuckles! lol
If you had meant to limit your judgement to young children, you would have made that clear. And yes, you did use the word insane, which conveyed a pretty specific *context* of extreme judgement...then you utilized the explanation of pastlife issues, and how the potential for working through those gender issues was available as an alternative, instead of going *such an insane route*... That's what you meant. I didn't misread it.
You can try to backpedal out of how you presented that, but I'm certainly not *out of context* for reflecting it exactly how it was...
...and no, I am sometimes not such a verbally nice person, *lady*...lol... These times are filled with hideous dangers presenting themselves in *nice,* patriotic, God-approved illusory guises that have nothing to do with anything remotely humane, or liberty-and- equality-oriented, or Constitution/Bill-of-Rights oriented... Our country's very lifeblood and soul are being sold out by those who scream the loudest that they're protecting it and, yes, that makes me very angry indeed... Pretty sure Yeshua himself would offer some pretty graphic redemonstration of His *clearing of the moneychangers in the temples,* were He here today...
I don't need to grow up, Chuckles... I know that's just the meanest thing you could think of in the moment to say to me...lol...but c'mon...
Just one example of how you behave towards others with your words. He didn't deserve to be called lizard man, really! I really felt for Nevada when you said that to him, nobody deserves that type of treatment. I didn't open your post above, no point in doing so as you always have to have the last word.
Date: May 18, 2024 at 17:47:24 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Oh for heaven's sake, Chuckles...lol...
"I really felt for Nevada when you said that to him, nobody deserves that type of treatment." You can't possibly be serious...........you're speaking of me calling Nevada Lee *lizardman*...???
My, my. Nevada's capacity for enveiglement and obfuscation has never ceased to astound me and, no surprise, here it is as the gift that just keeps on giving long after! LOLOL!!!
Chuckles, never in the history of Earthboppin' has there ever been a poster who sported a greater capacity for supporting inhumane, Fascist values in more creatively obtuse and verbally spinmeistered ways, trying so hard as he did to conceal his true intentions and trajectory... ;D It became, oh, something of a dedicated hobby of mine to bust him at this in as many instances and ways I could...the least of which involved calling him lizardman...lol...
And truth be told it was almost affectionate...lol...he lives in the desert, I live in the desert... While he galled me no end, in his support of rightwing fascist nonsense, I've never held any true animosity toward him, nor do I toward anyone here! I just have no patience for Fascism being presented as anything but what it is, and can be downright dogged and relentless at outing it...as you have clearly noted... ;)
Date: May 18, 2024 at 20:40:47 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Shadow, you have a way with words...
...I obviously have a way with lizards, chipmunks, desert art and spiritual curiosity.
Perhaps some day we'll get along better. As for "fascism", I find it a temporary phenomena most humans experience in one form or another along a larger spiritual journey that eventually brings all of us into the light.
Why would I seek to condemn such people when I can and have helped them pass safely through those times in their life on their journey through God's creation?
Life is too precious to bring each other "down" when there is such a need for all of us to help each other out during times which at best could be considered difficult.
Ironically my "Zen Garden has become something even adults seem to enjoy and which the lizards are more than willing to share.
Date: May 19, 2024 at 08:19:23 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: Shadow, you have a way with words...
Thank you, Nevada, for this perfect illustration of your spinmeistering talent... ;) Just a few words here for you before Mr. Bopp sends you back to C/Bib/Rel.
Fascism is no "temporary phenomenon," but rather a dictatorial, oppressive state of government in which citizens are forced to conform to the values, beliefs and principles of the "conquering" party... I do not *condemn anyone* who has fallen under the mind control spell of those attempting this coup; they are sophisticated and ingenious, and play expertly to the stressed nervous systems of those seeking safety from their fears... But oh my yes, I'll happily acknowledge that my style of expression around this subject has gotten very blunt...lol... It never ceases to amaze me that impending Fascism is being obliviously supported by so many human beings, and seeing as *their vote and choice very directly affects my own life and wellbeing,* I will be continuing to voice everything I can to ensure that Republican/Christian Fascism does not become the law of this land...in whatever tones of voice and demeanor I feel are necessary...
And gosh, lizardman...if that "brings you down," then I suggest you stop reading my posts... ;)
Date: May 19, 2024 at 11:51:55 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: I appreciate that Bopp still allows me to read your posts...
...it's been a blessing for well over 20 years now and I have learned a lot. Diversity of opinions is a good starting point in life. Understanding and growth is always a good goal.
Date: May 19, 2024 at 12:17:09 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: I appreciate that Bopp still allows me to read your posts...
You forget, Nevada: I know you.
All your words are empty spun air, to me. I couldn't take anything you said seriously if my life depended on it, which...is sad, yes, but fortunately will likely never be called to test.
I will always wish you well, and am also grateful indeed for all I've learned from you. It's extensive.
And...bye, now.
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Date: May 18, 2024 at 14:53:37 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Mahu says it all.
It always tickles me when the Hawaiians, that are so often typecast as less developed, offer a simple solution to concepts the supposedly higher evolved wrestle with.
Thanks shadow, you say things better than I.
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Date: May 18, 2024 at 12:51:10 From: old timer, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
he is full of hate and anger and doesn’t seem willing to stop trolling people. he has to troll even in this thread on how if people would follow bopp’s already existing rules and stop the trolling/attacking bopp wouldn’t have to close boards and deal with this shit. but he won’t stop
Date: May 18, 2024 at 11:13:44 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
I am curious, Karen. In what universe do you live? Seriously do you make this stuff up on the fly or do you really think there's a world in which Trump is a Christian? In which a guy that posts reams of stuff, dozens a day, hardly ever posts? Where do you get those drugs? They are top shelf, can I get some too? I mean, I am sure we'd all benefit from a vacation in Lala land. Can you help us out? Give us the contact info to your dealer?
Date: May 18, 2024 at 20:51:34 From: Nevada, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
I agree ao, Trump rarely behaves like a "good" Christian. I pray that he passes quickly through this current phase of his and help the world become a better place.
But admittedly, it's a long shot at this point in time.
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Date: May 18, 2024 at 11:25:45 From: Karen, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Date: May 18, 2024 at 17:05:11 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Sorry Karen that you had to go through that, wasn't necessary for ao to come at you like that in that manner. You're a good person!
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Date: May 18, 2024 at 11:00:30 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
"Chuckles hardly ever comments."
Yeah, I got it, and you're the tooth fairy..
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 13:49:46 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
omg georg...
Get some help.
Please.
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 13:40:20 From: ryan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
why do men have penises? because they're dicks? pricks? why did the chicken cross the road? because it was there?
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 13:10:51 From: ao, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
WTF is going on here? Are we still in Kansas?
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Date: May 15, 2024 at 20:14:50 From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
it's not "favorable"...the "right" just posts more unsubstantiated shit, which often gets deleted...the dislike for biden and the rump is about equal 'round these parts imo...
Date: May 16, 2024 at 16:01:26 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: ...the world is about to be "deleted" Bopp, work on...
peace, love, and understanding might work but it has never been tried ... too soon, too soon ... more suffering must be endured ... we have yet to see the beast nor his mark ... but it is no its way with all the awful events that have transpired ... hate and distrust is certainly not working
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Date: May 15, 2024 at 23:58:16 From: old timer, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
last year nikita posted major news articles that were from sources approved by reds website and look what happened. she was attacked and trolled constantly for articles that were not unsubstantiated shit. be honest bopp, we’ve been around the block and saw what happened ourselves
Date: May 16, 2024 at 11:16:56 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
yes, exactly ... it the person does not parrot the party line here and gets assertive then they get the axe ... just the same story over and over again ... there have been numerous time-outs for me ... but, somehow, he needs me ... go figure ... and you ... he needs you too to pull out the rump thing and spread his cheeks for insertion of the device
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 05:31:05 From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Kind of like driving into Arcata, CA, Portland, Or, or Seattle with a GOP or Trump bumper sticker on your vehicle, good chance you'll have your vehicle damaged. Sometimes it's best not to even discuss politics, the marriage could end in divorce and you'll be booted from the house. Next thing you'll end up in church, the Bible board.
Date: May 16, 2024 at 10:47:34 From: shadow, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
Chuckles, you know...that victimesque pearl-twisting just doesn't fly...
The GOP and DJT are attempting to enact a Fascist state here in our country. That is violence. End of.
Try, if you can, not to spazz into imagining I'm justifying physical violence even in reactivity to the idea of imposed Fascism. I am a hardcore pacifist. For me, violence is never justified. Fascism is an inherently violent tenet, as it enforces the outlawing of everything but a dictator's imposed values. Do you see that as okay, if Fundamentalist Christianity becomes the official law of the land? If you find yourself resonating with mostly GOP values and ideals? Then it's okay to just throw everyone else who feels differently under any handy bus? Or jail? Or disappearance?
And please...don't even start with that GOPer myth that "the left has been trying to outlaw/disappear our views all along," because that's one of the most flagrant myths ever told. Democrats and what you call lefties support All expressions of life -- as long as they don't seek to stifle the expressions of others! GOPers experience FEAR, seeing so much diversity of expression, thoughts and beliefs that are DIFFERENT than theirs yet do no harm to them, personally -- yet they give birth to a whole national campaign to OUTLAW anything different...
So who's violent, Chuckles?
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Date: May 16, 2024 at 08:30:50 From: georg, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: the solution to our problems
yes, the left coast ... my folks fled the midwest and we have been stuck on this rotten shore ever since ... what a hole ... Arcata ... that cracks me up ... yes, it is a sickness on this coast that began in the sixties and has metastasized into what it has become ... I remember when a young guy named Wyden went door to door all over his district ... a nobody who did the meet and greet for months out of his old trashy beater car ... who is he now? but good people are migrating back into the heartland of America ... away from the crazy green preachers