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Date: November 06, 2024 at 11:37:11
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Never have Yeshua's words, "Forgive them, for they know not... |
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...what they do" (Luke 23:34)...felt more powerful for
me...
So much was removed from what would've come down through
the ages as *all Yeshua taught,* had it all been allowed
to do so naturally and organically...in the Bible as well
as elsewhere...but I also know that some truths are
simply too powerful to be obscured or disappeared by the
wiles of the manipulative, powerseeking men who compiled
that book...
The power of forgiveness is one of these truths, by my
lights...and as this phenomenon must make its perfect way
through whatever-all authentic & understandable human
feelings accompany the event of whatever's needing to be
divinely forgiven, the process of coming to that grace
can be a spectacularly slippery rocky gutting
slope.........
Some definitions of forgiveness say that "you're not
really forgiving if you're still energizing the wound,"
or, in other words: If forgiving doesn't leave you
feeling *as if it never happened!" the forgiveness isn't
genuine...
Well, it is for me!
I AM *able to forgive everyone who voted that way for
wittingly or unwittingly enslaving the nation into
Fascism*... Yes, I am. BECAUSE I KNOW that *they
literally cannot possibly truly comprehend, understand,
what they have done*... They can't! They couldn't
possibly understand, or be *in conscious awareness of*
the actualities of what they've voted for, even though
they've been spelled out to them. They couldn't listen!
;-O We remember that blank gaze when confronted by
connecting the dots between the GOP and Fascism, don't
we? That happened because they were absolutely convinced
this was their only choice (and for many, "should be
their desire") if they wanted to be "safe in their own
country"...
And because *I know they couldn't know what they were
doing," that's how I can forgive them...
*And as I said elsewhere: Though I forgive them, *my
promise to God to respect myself* will never, ever forget
the name or face of anyone I know voted GOP in this
election, to know never to trust them for anything so
simple as the time of day -- knowing *their level of
respect for me* was so nonexistent, they sold me and all
other American citizens out to a Fascist government...
Next...would be forgiveness of the biggest-tier GOP
heavyhitters and the corporacratic global darkest core...
That one's going to take a little more...focus and pure
muscling of spiritual will, I'm thinking...
With my Mother Goddess, Father God, Yeshua & Magdalene,
Mother Mary and all sacred beings who work with me
present as witness, I ask for strength in my intention to
prevail within my own highest ground...
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 06:22:50
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Never have Yeshua's words, "Forgive them, for they know... |
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how about forgiving yourself? isn't that why you're really here?
yesterday shadow writes a post on the nat'l board ending in, "So, go fuck
yourself, bitch." which bopp notably leaves on the board.
http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national/messages/443733.html
followed by this👇.
"Mr. Bopp, just so's we're clear: You know me perhaps
better than anyone here. You know I don't get personal
except under the most extreme conditions and, far as I'm
concerned, we have been there, *literally under threat of
fascist domination,* for quite some time...
Voting that kind of insanity into government is *a very
personal choice* that has consequences for FAR MORE THAN
JUST ONE'S PERSONAL SELF...and yes, I do have very strong
personal feelings toward those who've decided that's
okay... And while the evolution of each human being
occurs along their own perfect timelines, I happen to
believe that honest, authentic feedback from human beings
displeased by choices these people are making *that
change the lives of everyone* absolutely belong showing
up in their respective processes...from the hip, in their
faces...
I give you my word I'll do my best! But that's all I can
promise, especially where GOPers and akira are
concerned... So if you see something I say that you don't
like, I will simply ask you to not hesitate, and ban me.
Seriously.
I have no doubt this is quite a *process* for you, as
well, kemo sabe..."
http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/national/messages/443744.html
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 07:46:32
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Never have Yeshua's words, "Forgive them, for they know... |
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Well...(lol!)...I could do a bunch of creatively
juxtapositional copy/pasting of things you've said here,
akira, and then ask you the exact same question: Isn't
forgiving yourself why *you're* really here?
Isn't learning that why most of us are "really here,*
when it really comes down to it?
But I don't think that was a sincere question on your
part, at all, nor was it behind your posting this,
here...
Whether you know it or not, you're starting to groove
into Nevada's energetic footsteps...
That's not a compliment, by the way...
I forgive myself many times every day, akira, for my
grave human/egoic imperfections as I strive to integrate
all that lives within my spiritual self into them...
...and I answer to Infinite Love Within me, not to you,
for where I find myself within the journey of self-
forgiveness...
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 08:12:41
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Never have Yeshua's words, "Forgive them, for they know... |
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"But I don't think that was a sincere question on yourpart"
It was.
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 08:25:06
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Never have Yeshua's words, "Forgive them, for they know... |
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Well okay, akira, I did answer it inasmuch as I feel
inclined...with a question back at you that's equally
sincerely asked...
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 08:36:22
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And for what it's worth... |
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Asking someone a question that is profoundly spiritual in
nature...such as whether someone might be in the midst of
a self-forgiveness lesson...is *not well received* when,
practically in the same breath and moment, the person
asking acts toward that person like a highly-aggressive
human indictment machine, firing whatever skills of
intellect/logical argument they possess with both barrels
trying to prove they can *win*... *Win what?* would be
the question, there, for anyone looking more deeply...
Intellect and Spirituality do not function on anywhere
near the same wavelength, akira...
What in the world makes you think you can
condescendingly, disrespectfully treat people like shit,
acting like they're beneath you, in one moment...and then
turn to one of them and imagine you can switch gears on a
dime, from being a complete Asshole toward them, to
offering Sensitive Spiritual Inquiry about a person's
most personal processes?
You can imagine it holds water, for you to do so...but it
doesn't...
And even at that, I did my best to answer you...
Now, fuck off... If you want to address me about
something spiritual or related to my own processes, it'd
take a lot more bridge-building between us for me to even
consider being vulnerable enough that I'd even consider
going there with you again...
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 08:40:28
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And for what it's worth... |
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"when, practically in the same breath and moment, the person
asking acts toward that person like a highly-aggressive
human indictment machine, ..."
well, if we can both consider ourselves in a hall of mirrors, maybe we will grow?
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Date: November 07, 2024 at 09:10:05
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And for what it's worth... |
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Well...you'll have no argument from me that we literally
live within an energetic hall of mirrors, nor that even
when our human egoic selves have no conscious intention
of doing so, *we do grow* impersonally by that phenomenon
itself...
However, after having endured years of trauma on the
other end of bullies very much like yourself, my terms
and boundaries for engaging *personally* with someone,
allowing them into the extremely vulnerable territory of
my conscious self-awareness process, is that they meet me
within the shared intention of heartspace...an arena that
has nothing whatsoever to do with the judgements,
negotiations and jockeying for position that the human
egoic intellect is about...and everything to do with
mutual respect, equality and kindness of intention...
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Date: November 06, 2024 at 12:19:02
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Never have Yeshua's words, "Forgive them, for they know... |
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amen...jesus did not say, no worries, fergeddaboutit...he said, go, and sin no more...he allowed for and gave forgiveness, but did not say what you did was alright...
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