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Date: September 24, 2023 at 18:12:34
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: More than a hundred years ago, |
URL: Rudolf Steiner wrote the following: |
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“In the future, we will eliminate the soul with
medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of
view’, there will be a vaccine by which the human body
will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth,
so that the human being cannot develop the thought of
the existence of soul and Spirit.
To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted with the
task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people
are vaccinated against this disease or disease, so in
the future, children will be vaccinated with a
substance that can be produced precisely in such a way
that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune
to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life.
He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a
conscience, and that is the true goal of some
materialistic circles.
With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric
body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body
is detached, the relationship between the universe and
the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and
man would become an automaton, for the physical body of
man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will.
So, the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man
can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling.
He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no
longer rise to the spiritual”.
Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925)
(Tom: The French arymanique translates to the English
Aromantic which is defined here:
http://wiki.asexuality.org/Aromantic)
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 04:08:27
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: bogus... no source to Rudolf Steiner work |
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looks like someone is unethically exploiting his name.
imo...
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 08:52:53
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: bogus... no source to Rudolf Steiner work |
URL: https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA177/English/RSP1993/19171027p01.html |
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Did some research on this, so many instances of this
quote being attributed to Steiner but without the
reference. Finally found one that referenced his lecture,
GA 177. Fall of the Spirits of Darkness — The Fallen
Spirits' Influence in the World, as being the quote's
source. Then went to a Steiner site and searched it,
which offered the following Search Results instances of
this general point being mentioned. As you can see, as
with other references it's not a direct quote but rather
just speaks generally on the same point...which if not
precise certainly shows his orientation on the subject...
I still see the notion of artificially separating
humankind from Spirit as literally impossible, so I
disagree...lol...but I was curious too...
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GA 177. Fall of the Spirits of Darkness — Changes in
Humanity's Spiritual Make-up
The soul will be made non-existent with the aid of a
drug. Taking a ‘sound point of view’, people will invent
a vaccine to influence the organism as early as possible,
preferably as soon as it is born, so that this human body
never even gets the idea that there is a soul and a
spirit. The two philosophies of life will be in complete
opposition. One movement will need to reflect how
concepts and ideas may be developed to meet the reality
of soul and spirit. The others, the heirs of modern
materialism, will look for the vaccine to make the body
‘healthy’, that is, makes its constitution such that this
body no longer talks of such rubbish as soul and spirit,
but takes a ‘sound’ view of the forces which live in
engines and in chemistry and let planets and suns arise
from nebulae in the cosmos.
GA 177. Fall of the Spirits of Darkness — The Fallen
Spirits' Influence in the World
I have told you that the spirits of darkness are going to
inspire their human hosts, in whom they will be dwelling,
to find a vaccine that will drive all inclination towards
spirituality out of people's souls when they are still
very young, and this will happen in a roundabout way
through the living body. Today, bodies are vaccinated
against one thing and another; in future, children will
be vaccinated with a substance which it will certainly be
possible to produce, and this will make them immune, so
that they do not develop foolish inclinations connected
with spiritual life — ‘foolish’ here, of course, in the
eyes of materialists.
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 10:50:03
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: my apologies to chatillion |
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and thanks for posting that.
"I still see the notion of artificially separating
humankind from Spirit as literally impossible, so I
disagree...lol...but I was curious too..."
Isn't it possible there are things we literally can't see as possible but are?
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 14:16:31
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: my apologies to chatillion |
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apologies not needed. :-)
Some things are buried deeply.
I'm firmly convinced that there's an immensity out/in
'There' of which we are not only unaware, but of which
probably will never even grasp a tiny hint.
Ever wonder why?
Ever get a whiff?
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 03:44:50
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: my apologies to chatillion |
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yeah. In my experience awareness is continually revealing deeper levels, like
an onion. Maybe hints of its infiniteness are all around us all the time, like an
open secret? Immediate psychic connections or understanding about
people & places or experiencing clusters of synchronicities , or deeper,
spontaneous gifts of revelation are some ways I think of having those 'whiffs'.
The dream state is another entry point. so it seems.
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 04:44:06
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: my apologies to chatillion |
URL: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/gifts-of-unknown-things-a-true-story-of-nature-healing-and-initiation-from-indonesias-dancing-island_lyall-watson/318080/?resultid=d9afa541-c4ff-4a0d-ac6b-bb2135aed58a#edition=1920173&idiq=4864576 |
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Date: September 27, 2023 at 07:57:04
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: my apologies to chatillion |
URL: https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/lyall-watson/pdf-gifts-of-unknown-things-a-true-story-of-nature-healing-and-initiation-from-indonesias-dancing-island-download/?id=001978863265 |
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thanks. I just found a free download of it!
I love the internet.
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 11:12:04
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: my apologies to chatillion |
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"Isn't it possible there are things we literally can't
see as possible but are?"
Are you purposely talking down to me, or .....what,
exactly there, akira? lol
Why, yes! *blinkblink* There are things we literally
can't see as possible, but most definitely are! And I'll
lob that little factoid right back your way...
As I clearly stated, what I offered was *my
opinion*...what my own educated spiritual
awareness/knowingness tells me. Differ with it all you
like, it'll have no impact within my reality...as I'm
sure mine would have within yours... ;)
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Date: September 26, 2023 at 12:57:04
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: my apologies to chatillion |
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nope. wasn't talking down to you.
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Date: September 25, 2023 at 18:59:30
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: More than a hundred years ago, |
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WOW!!!sad indeed and horrifying, would God/Goddess allow
that to happen?
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Date: September 25, 2023 at 09:15:29
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: More than a hundred years ago, |
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IMHO... Yeah, I don't care who said thatn, or when. While
it may be possible, oh yes, to slow down or hinder the
acceleration of energetic resonance we see in anyone who
has engaged an *experientially productive spiritual
path,* or even one that, while not yet synergizing higher
levels of awareness, is being focused upon and
practiced...it is never, ever possible to entirely
eradicate the potential for a human being to *rise to the
spiritual* while in a human body. That choice of destiny
cannot be derailed. Not by anything, or anyone.
That would literally translate to a reality in which the
Divine, or Infinite Love, can be "defeated," made
impossible for a human being to grasp the context of, to
be elevated by, be inspired to enact and integrate it
within their lives and beings.
The idea that this is even conceivable, let alone
possible to devise, can't be anything but a product of
the inherently limited human (negative) imagination... ;)
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