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Date: June 16, 2019 at 08:52:13
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
URL: https://www.lionsroar.com/why-does-buddhism-talk-about-suffering-so-much/?utm_content=bufferac501&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer |
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The Buddha’s first noble truth says that life is
suffering. What’s this obsession with suffering? If I
don’t feel like I’m suffering am I still a Buddhist?
The usual translation you mention—“Life is suffering”—
does a disservice to the subtlety of the first noble
truth. A fairer translation is “Life is marked by
suffering,” which means that suffering isn’t all we
experience but it’s always present. Yes, we have
happiness and joy, but we never escape the suffering of
not getting what we want, the suffering of losing it
when we do get it, and the underlying anxiety of not
having a solid self. The word usually translated as
suffering, dukkha, actually means a wheel that is not
round and gives a bumpy ride. The point is that life
doesn’t work very well.
As the late Thinley Norbu Rinpoche once said, “Samsara?
That’s nothing but an endless series of mistakes.”
The reason people get discouraged by Buddhism’s
emphasis on suffering is that they think they’re stuck
with it. But the first noble truth points to the next
three truths, which tell us that life will work much
better if we let go of the suffering caused by
maintaining the fiction of a solid self. The truth of
suffering is not a life sentence but the first step on
the path to enlightenment. It is a cause of hope, not
of despair.
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Date: June 24, 2019 at 22:52:16
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
URL: https://www.lionsroar.com/what-are-the-four-noble-truths/ |
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What are the four noble truths? Buddhism’s famed four
truths are called noble because they liberate us from
suffering. They are the Buddha’s basic teaching,
encapsulating the entire Buddhist path.
1. Suffering
Life always involves suffering, in obvious and subtle
forms. Even when things seem good, we always feel an
undercurrent of anxiety and uncertainty inside.
2. The Cause of Suffering
The cause of suffering is craving and fundamental
ignorance. We suffer because of our mistaken belief
that we are a separate, independent, solid “I.” The
painful and futile struggle to maintain this delusion
of ego is known as samsara, or cyclic existence.
3. The End of Suffering
The good news is that our obscurations are temporary.
They are like passing clouds that obscure the sun of
our enlightened nature, which is always present.
Therefore, suffering can end because our obscurations
can be purified and awakened mind is always available
to us.
4. The Path
By living ethically, practicing meditation, and
developing wisdom, we can take exactly the same journey
to enlightenment and freedom from suffering that the
buddhas do. We too can wake up.
More at link
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Date: June 26, 2019 at 11:14:53
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Mingyur Rinpoche - happiness-gratitude-appreciation |
URL: https://www.lionsroar.com/in-exclusive-first-interview-mingyur-rinpoche-reveals-what-happened-during-his-four-years-as-a-wandering-yogi/?utm_content=bufferca841&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer |
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"I feel that happiness is really found in appreciation
and rejoicing. Everything is a display of clarity,
love, and wisdom. This is related to the main view of
Vajrayana Buddhism: that we all are buddha. This
enlightened nature is not just within you. It’s
everywhere. You can see it and appreciate it. That’s
the main cause of happiness—gratitude and
appreciation."
Mingyur Rinpoche reveals what happened during his four
years as a wandering yogi
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 09:53:25
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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In simple terms as I understand it, Buddhism says that suffering comes from
attachment, i.e. attachment to things, people, outcomes, situations and the
illusion of permanence, etc. The realization that all reality is based on
Anicca or Anitya (impermanence) is the first step toward releasing human
suffering. Meditation and correct conduct is viewed as a means towards
that end.
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 12:47:33
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
URL: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Four-Noble-Truths |
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Anicca (Pali) and Annitya (Sansktrit) are doctrines in
existence and impermanence, which is key in all
Buddhist teacings.
The Four Noble Truths, are as well, and the Four
Immeasurables.
2. The Cause of Suffering
The cause of suffering is craving and fundamental
ignorance. We suffer because of our mistaken belief
that we are a separate, independent, solid “I.” The
painful and futile struggle to maintain this delusion
ovf ego is known as samsara, or cyclic existence.
When I first started practicing, the "solid I" was
termed ego grasping. Now more commonly called the
Separate Self, which is a clearer meaning to ego, for
Westerners .
Attachment to Separate self as being real, or really
really real, is a cause for suffering.
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Date: June 20, 2019 at 23:03:19
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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"The struggle is real....Suffering is Optional". - It IS A Choice We Make.
If it's your belief that your growth isn't meaningful, 'Holy' or real unless you
also SUFFER, then suffer you will! Then ask yourself "Why do I believe this?"
Belief is at the root of most disfunctional living. Dig deeply enough to find
why you believe the way you do about things and your entire life and belief
system changes.
It's not just the Buddhists, the Jews also SUFFER but add Guilt to their belief
system! I'm sure every Religion has misunderstood doctrines that is
attributed to God/Goddesses that needs to be re-examined by each of us.
In other words.. "Check yourself when on a Spiritual path and encounter
what feels like a 'Red Flag' in the belief of this path. Never swallow whole
what another 'Human' says is true unless you feel it IS true inside yourself."
The 'Ring of Truth' that is felt in the body is your Soul guiding you to Truth.
Learn to trust yourself this way because you are just as worthy of Divine
Knowledge and understanding as anyone who has ever lived. Holiness is not
just reserved for Saints. It's our Birthright also. GOD made US in "THEIR
IMAGE" and we retain the ONENESS with our CREATOR inside each of us.
We are ONE with our Creator as cells in the Body of God: Divine Oneness.
So do not let another speak to you as if you are 'less than' another.
You are a great and mighty Being made in the IMAGE of your Creator.
Let the LIGHT of GOD guide your path. Namaste'= I see God in YOU.
Blessings, Jody
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Date: June 21, 2019 at 00:12:18
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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it is not optional...it is the law...but if one suffers consciously they can keep some of the transformed energies for themselves...
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 09:57:14
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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How do you distinguish unconscious suffering from conscious suffering?
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 10:18:13
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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unconscious suffering just happens to you...conscious suffering is created by conscious action...suffering is the means the creation uses to re-fine energy...
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 11:02:00
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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"conscious suffering is created by conscious action...suffering is the means
the creation uses to re-fine energy..."
That doesn't really make sense to me. If I'm acting with consciousness, I'm
more likely to reduce the consequences of unconscious behavior. I will be
more present and be less attached emotionally and mentally to whatever is,
therefore my suffering will be reduced - to the degree that I am conscious. I
obviously have a way to go, but so far that has been my experience.
I'm also not exactly sure of what you mean by "re-fine energy" If you're
talking about subtle energies, my awareness of them is always increased
when I'm in a calm, receptive, open and relatively peaceful state. But I'm not
sure if that's what you mean.
Anyway, what you're talking about reminds me of the concept in psychology
of sublimation if I'm understanding it correctly, only a more conscious form
of sublimation.
Our experiences are always subjective - our own and filtered through our
filters, beliefs and expectations, so maybe we're both accurate.
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 11:51:33
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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you have to understand how the creation works...at every level entities feed on others/other energies to maintain their existence...the human body is a machine...it takes in energiees in the forms of physical food, air and impressions...if the impressions are properly used, that is conscious, then the machine can take the suble energies of food and air and re-fine them into subtler energies...otherwise it is just a mechanical process that stops at a certain point...gurdjieff explains how it all works...it is the basic law of seven, of the octave...do re mi proceed mechanically...there is no getting to fa without an influx of energy to make the transition...that is why it is so difficult to achieve things and why nature does not produce straight lines...if the proper energy is supplied at the mi-fa transition, then the process will continue mechanically until it reaches the si-do point, which also needs a jolt of energy to proceed to the final do...the mi-fa energy that we can control is conscious suffering...that can take meany forms...but if we can achieve it, we are able to re-fine energies into subtler energies and in doing so, create enough so that we pay our debt to the creation plus have a little extra left over for ourselves, which our machine can utilize to create the subtler bodies that it is capable of doing if it is operating correctly...subtler bodies such as the astral body and beyond...gurdjieff calls it the possibility of creating a soul...
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Date: July 01, 2019 at 16:09:48
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Is that understanding of how creation works gleaned from your own
experience or from Gurdjieff's words?
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Date: July 01, 2019 at 21:48:56
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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gurdjieff's mostly with some correlating experience of my own...and i take his words on it as truth...he did the research throughout the mid-east, asia and northern africa in the late 1800s...it is the best explanation of how things work i have ever come across...it is logical, scientifically sound, and based on the evidence that the universe and religion gives us...the law of the octave, so blatantly captured in the musical scales and the rainbow/spectrum of visible light... the law of three, passed down in every religion as the wholly trinity and backed by science as the electron, proton and neutron as the basic constituents of all matter...if you read and digest his writings, i think you will come to the same conclusion...
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Date: July 02, 2019 at 20:39:22
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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...it may be logical, but is it "spiritual"? At some
point a logically organized "creation" needs a higher
purpose to satisfy my search.
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Date: July 02, 2019 at 20:51:05
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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i have posted the purpose many times...it is self-preservation that is based on the laws that have propagated from the initial act..each level of the creation must "pay" for its existence and strive to return to the source...that's how it works...nothing anyone can do about that, even the big kahuna that set it all off...the unique fool as g calls it...
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Date: July 03, 2019 at 10:13:28
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...that sounds more like a Goldman Sachs business model... |
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...I've seen little in my fifty year search to support
such a concept...
...it seems rather open to negativity and abuse...
...what am I missing?
...it's been my personal experience that creation is
an abundant storehouse if you know where to look...
...I've not yet run into the "pay to play" concept.
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Date: June 26, 2019 at 17:34:09
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: gurdjieff calls it the possibility of creating a soul... |
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...I might be more inclined to consider it is the
"possibility" of a "great" soul attempting to
"perfect" an earthly body or existence.
I see this in lizards a lot.
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Date: June 21, 2019 at 15:48:50
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Hi Ryan and the board,
Yes there is suffering on this planet. However there is no law demanding suffering.
Karma is an outcome to an action, for the Good or the Bad.
If you don't think before you act, you'll likely incur some difficult karma. If you do this
repeatedly you may find yourself hating life in general and blaming everybody for
your problems. This is where suffering comes in..or as I like to call it the 'Universal
Behavior Modification Program' aka 'KARMA'. Some of us learn quickly and some
never learn anything.
Let's say you're disrupting class and are sent to the back of the room to face the
corner wearing a dunce hat. It's humiliating and you feel ashamed. You are suffering.
This is where reviewing your actions comes into play. Do you even see your actions?
Blame your teacher? Return to school everyday for a month and disrupt the class
over and over again until suffering becomes a way of life for you? OR do you change
your own behavior before a 2nd or 3rd sign of future suffering? Once you put 2+ 2
together and realize that bad actions = suffering you are less likely to commit the
behavior that gave you the initial suffering or Karma.
Suffering IS Optional. You take the Spiritual High Road aka 'Making Lemonade out of
the Lemons you've been handed in life' or sinking like a rock to the bottom of a very
dark, cold sea by feeling sorry for yourself. I've done both in this life.
Catching a clue is the first thing you need to watch for! Life sprinkles clues
everywhere for us to see and learn from so become observant. All it takes is seeing
a pattern, learning from mistakes, saying you're sorry and becoming Grateful for
what you have been given.
Gratitude is probably the #1 bestower of blessings in your life so learn that first! This
will shift you from a life of bs to one of abundance and joy. There is no need to
suffer. Spiritual Truths can raise your frequency from the pits to the top of a
mountain. But in the process you will shed lies, deception, hate, fear, backstabbing,
revenge, etc. but most of all you'll start walking and talking your own Truth. This is
dumping your baggage and becoming Light. Anyone can do it no matter where you
were born, how bad your life is you can turn it around FAST.
We endure suffering during loss of loved ones, a job, a home, a marriage ending in
divorce or bad health. But it's up to us how long you decide to suffer in life because
suffering IS optional. You build spiritual strength by living. Nobody escapes hardship
but you sure can minimize the suffering! Suffering is a choice; just don't wallow in it,
dig your way out! I hope this clarifies my initial post on suffering.
Blessings, Jody
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Date: June 22, 2019 at 09:11:16
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Just FWIW... |
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Thanks for this sharing, Jody, in response to ryan's
post/Susana's initial one regarding Buddhism and
suffering...and of course, I respect your right to
believe however you do, and how that shapes your own
perception and experience... ;)
Just wanted to chime in here briefly from my own
experiential spiritual truth and understanding... ;->
While I do generally concur that suffering is,
indeed, how we literally *learn* Right Action...by
incurring the effects of the causes we set in motion,
over and over...and that when each facet of Right
Action (representing how many lessons offered in each
lifetime?!) has come full-circle into the
insight/understanding/soul growth it was set in
motion by the soul to achieve, it's job is done, so
to speak, and it literally falls away...that's where
my agreement ends...
In my understanding, the modifier words of
"necessary" and "unnecessary" are simply empty
judgements that hold no meaning whatsoever except
within the eye of the beholder... IMHO no one is ever
in any position to say, about any other person...even
conceptually...that "their suffering is
unnecessary"...IMHO, anyway. ;-> No one can stand in
another's skin and know the "necessary" timing it
will take for whatever soulgrowth issue that person's
navigating to fully *ripen* and roll over into
healing via that same *experiencing the effects of
one's causes set in motion* curriculum...or for those
on a more conscious path, the *conscious self-
awareness* process...
To me, anything anyone has to say about anyone else's
process can't help but be anything BUT *judgement,*
which is differentiated from *discernment* by whether
or not what's being perceived is about oneself, or
another... ;-> No human being can clearly adjudge
ANYTHING for another or their process (i.e., seeing
someone as "wallowing," etc), because no one can
stand in anyone else's skin & no energy but Infinite
Love knows our perfect curriculum's timing, period!
(And yes, clearly I have my own human/egoic sticking
points on this myself! lol) We can *discern* what is
good and correct for ourselves, yes -- but when we
attempt to project our own understandings/contexts
onto others, that is judgement, pure and simple,
IMHO...and where a lot of what we term metaphysics
falls far short...
Might seem like an "unnecessary" hair to split,
this...lol...but to me, the context of understanding
between metaphysics and spirituality, which are two
very different realities, pivots upon just such
differentiations...ones I feel are crucial to make
for some of us... ;->
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Date: June 22, 2019 at 09:43:00
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Just FWIW... |
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Hi Shadow,
First, nowhere are the words ‘necessary/unnecessary ‘ used in my
post. Somehow you took a confusingly veiled and inside-out way of
saying I was mistaken in using these words?? Which I never used.
Yes you certainly are entitled to your own opinion yet you should also
know what you are talking about first. Thank you for sharing...
Blessings, Jody
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Date: June 22, 2019 at 11:28:55
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sorry Jody... |
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...if that was too much of a stretch, to your mind...
When you say, "suffering IS optional," to me, I'm not
finding that to be different at all from saying that
suffering is "unnecessary"...? But if you find a hair
to split there, by all means, as you please... ;)
I know very well what I'm talking about, and nothing
was so confusingly veiled or inside-out, here. Not at
all... ;->
Blessings back!
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Date: June 20, 2019 at 12:21:55
From: Just Forum Fan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Buddhism is kin to Christianity in many ways, thankfully. Suffering is our test and attitude and intentions save or curse us.
That 'ole cliche about us either becoming bitter or better applies.
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Date: June 20, 2019 at 13:44:48
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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buddhism came from christianity...the ancient christianity of egypt, the source of all "modern" religions...
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Date: June 21, 2019 at 15:23:10
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Buddhism is older, 2500 BCE, and some say
much earlier. Buddhists consider Christ a
great Boddhisatva.
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Date: June 21, 2019 at 16:49:27
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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christianity is around 12,000 years old, give or take a millennium...what do you think christ was learning in his youth in egypt?
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 09:38:36
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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excuse me for butting in, but I thought christ was born a little over 2,000
years ago? What's your source for 12,000 years?
Also, btw, I read somewhere that Gurdjieff studied buddhism, which is
probably why some of his amalgamated teachings are so reminiscent of it.
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 10:16:07
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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gurdjieff is the relater of the info, his sources were old manuscripts and documents..."christianity" was formulated around ethiopia around 12,000 years ago...when jesus went to egypt in his youth (bible does not cover that period), he was taught the concepts and system of it, as well as magic and other bits of knowledge...buddhism, islam, christianity...all religions basically, are derived from this ancient knowledge...gurdjieff studied everything, and used his access in the late 1800s to scour the writings and libraries contained in the hidden monasteries and remote sacred sites throughout persia, asia and northern africa...
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 10:38:47
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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but I'm still curious about your source for that information.
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 11:40:09
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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gurdjieff's writings...bezelbub's tales mostly...
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Date: June 21, 2019 at 22:41:37
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Have a different history on him.
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Date: June 21, 2019 at 23:38:59
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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perhaps, but mine is the correct one...lol...
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 21:16:34
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Have not found gurdjieff to be accurate on many levels.
It is a mix of different teachings, yet, without actual
pratice, the depth is missing and difficult to
communicate coherently.
Had a conversation with my Tibetan Geshe about the
Egyptian pyramids, about fifteen years ago. They were
built for burial plain and simple.
Heads will explode over that, but hey, it is as it is.
Agree or not.
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 21:46:49
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Date: June 26, 2019 at 22:30:25
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Nah, my teacher wasn't puffery.
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Date: June 27, 2019 at 09:34:01
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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the puffery was you made claims with nothing to back them up...
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Date: June 27, 2019 at 12:47:32
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Ryan...perhaps you can work on saying what you really
mean better?
You tend to be one of the more easily misunderstood
posters...
...do you do it on purpose?
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Date: June 20, 2019 at 18:13:36
From: JFF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Every one of the Buddhists I have been aquainted with indeed had the fruits of the Spirit. I was served cake at committee meetings by them and felt that it was I that should be serving them. (This was in our military/Hawaii days)
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Date: June 16, 2019 at 10:15:47
From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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That's organized religion for ya.
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Date: June 16, 2019 at 10:44:00
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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no, that's the way the creation works...
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Date: June 25, 2019 at 10:09:42
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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according to your beliefs... :)
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Date: June 16, 2019 at 10:04:35
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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because suffering is the "friction" that supplies the creation with the energy it needs to run...that is how the creation "works", by transforming coarser energies into finer ones...don't worry, if you're not suffering then those whose backs you stand on to try to avoid it suffer more to pick up your slack...and if you are not suffering you are not paying attention imo...basically, without suffering, you die and then bye-bye...conscious suffering is the mechanism by which a human can evolve...
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Date: June 26, 2019 at 17:54:38
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...conscious suffering is the mechanism by which a human can evolve |
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...as I've grown older I've switched to conscious
mental joy...
...it sure beats the hell out of suffering. I have no
problem carrying the burdens of life on my back, but
why should I "suffer" for being the "good guy"?
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Date: June 16, 2019 at 12:00:02
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Thoughts cause suffering. No one is immune. It's our
attachment to suffering that grinds us.
It is not what happens, but our perceptions of what
happens, and carrying them around like badges, when
they are burdens/blocks that keep us from seeing deeper
within. Beyond our belief in a separate-self as really
real.
Our true natural state is bliss. We forget that and
remember, repeatedly, until we fully let go.
Inner love and compassion focus and letting go.
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Date: June 16, 2019 at 12:06:11
From: Susana, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why does Buddhism talk about suffering so much? |
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Transforming suffering and the causes of suffering.
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