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Date: July 31, 2018 at 10:53:49
From: _ , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Mandela hypothetical (Warning, Politics heavy)


Not sure if this is the best forum, but the debate
about certain world leaders is present here as well
as other forums.

Mandela effect. Alternate timelines coming together
and/or disappearing. Lots of different ideas about
what exactly the Mandela effect is made of. For
this hypothetical situation, we're going with the
merging timelines hypothesis.

For simplicity's sake, two timelines, imperfectly
merged, OR imperfectly dividing (Certainly in the
grand scheme of things it can be infinite, but I'm
trying to make it feasible to write a single post
about).

I'm also reducing vast political complexities of
multiple people and forces at work down to one name.
Trump as a symbol of those entities. It's
inaccurate, an oversimplification, but would be
impossible to summarize here otherwise.

Timeline 1 (the one I would place myself in based on
what I see of our world leaders): Donald Trump among
others IS true evil or at the very least controlled
by it. He is a force dividing America, dividing
politics, encouraging racism, and basically pissing
on the world.

Timeline 2: Trump as the bringer of light and good
as some folks here see him. I don't even know how
to describe what that looks like considering that I
have seen zero good from Trump. I don't understand
what they are seeing. So I will hypothesize that
it's a different timeline and that Trump is actually
doing different things. Things that aren't happening
in the timeline I reside in.

But, if the timelines are mixed, and some people
perceive Trump 1, and others Trump 2...well, might
explain why I see otherwise intelligent people
falling for the pinnacle of evil....because they are
literally seeing a different entity.

The question:
If something like that were the case, what is one to
do from an ethical standpoint?
I see no choice but to stand up to an evil that can
potentially bring us to war and annihilation (Trump
on his own, of course not, but with the way things
are coming together and him either maliciously or
stupidly instigating, collaborating, or just walking
into every dumb move he can....it's very valid).

People seeing the other Trump, the good one, see no
other alternative than to stand up for what they see
as the savior, yes, their Messiah in some instances.

What does that mean for a mixed timeline? If bad
Trump receives the support and benefit of energy and
action for those actually following Good Trump....
(what appears, assuming multiple timelines, to be
happening from my perspective).

What does the converse mean....my fighting against
bad Trump undermining, carrying over to the other
timeline, the force that might be Good Trump?

Why would we be seeing two different
Trumps/political scenarios to start with? Most of us
agree on the basics of human decency. And yet every
day I see Trump violating every role of decency that
his supporters, too, normally rally around. And
they most often deny ever having seen the breach,
while some minimize its significance.

Each side claims their side is the only correct one
and that the other side is rabidly crazy. And many
on both sides, myself included, are so disturbed by
what we're seeing that yeah, we do get more than a
little crazy in our reactions, because frankly
reality has stopped making any sense whatsoever.
People's reactions have stopped making any sense
whatsoever.

Do I believe in the Mandela effect or multiple
timelines? Not exactly....the possibility is there
as much as the possibility of anything that I have
no ability to prove or disprove.

But....It seems like a better option to me than
believing the worst of the people around me who I
know from past interactions are good decent people
(or were at least....if we exist in multiple
timelines, are we dealing with the same people we
were before?).

The alternative is to accept that I live in a world
of people filled with obscene hatred, following an
individual who might or might not himself be evil,
but evil definitely guides his actions. And that is
more shattering to me. A world I wouldn't want
anything to do with.

I'm kind of choosing to run with an idea in defiance
of the laws of the world as I understand it right
now, because at the moment to accept the "consistent
single timeline" notion of people and Trump as they
seem to me...I can't.

Choosing a bit of madness to keep my sanity: and I
hope that paradox makes sense in light of what I
wrote.

Nonetheless, I also have to do what is right and
ethical according to what I'm seeing in my timeline.
And that is fight against the evil that is manifest
in/by Trump et al. I'll only say that I hope
someday to see the other timeline, where we're on
the right path with him rather than the wrong one,
because right now, it looks like evil is winning.


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Date: August 04, 2018 at 08:33:43
From: Swampy/NM, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mandela hypothetical (Warning, Politics heavy)


I have to agree with you. However, since I swear I
must have seen every side and reactions I never dreamed
would get a hold of folks like now. That's why to me,
politics have become such an emotional tool for
people's fears as justification to keep dividing. So,
that's why to me, it's not really about the label
that's used. And one can't tell what's really truth or
even sanity. Rational thinking is becoming a rarity.
I can see why we could think the Antichrist is here.


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26282


Date: August 03, 2018 at 11:10:00
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Mandela hypothetical (Warning, Politics heavy)


Some of those that have followed James
Gilliland are having a hard time
understanding why he is for President
Trump, being someone who is well versed
in spiritual matters. It's not that he
sees Trump as a saint and that Trump is
perfect, it's probably more to do with
the lessors of two evils that were
running for President at the time. I
myself don't follow James and have never
visited his ranch having only meant him
once years ago, he not a blind fool. I
found him to be highly awaken with a very
good heart. There are many with good
hearts on this site who had to choose
between two evils. We shouldn't have had
to be put in that position, it's just
that anyone who is truly good hearted
doesn't stand a chance running for
president unfortunately. Those of us who
have been observing the energies over the
years have been watching the results of
the good energies pouring in per say,
that it's becoming harder and harder to
hide from the truth. Those that resist
the energies, will have the hardest time.
It's as though they are going crazy.


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26274


Date: July 31, 2018 at 10:55:52
From: _ , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Also, Warning, above is far more negative than positive.


I know some are trying to avoid negativity for their
own slice of sanity. I can't blame you. It isn't my
path but I can definitely empathize.


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