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Date: March 30, 2018 at 18:15:03
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The other good which is neither good nor stands by itself |
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The other good which is neither good nor stands by itself...
involves covering stuff up and pretending it's safe when it
isn't where the perpetrator claims the victim volunteered to
be victimized and where never fall in love be advisable over
responsibly doing what better and best be done as better be
done.
I find it telling how some will seek to shift and focus on what
I call 'the charlatan's ways' rather than recognize what be
going on and focus on what I denote as the ways of the
visionary. Personally prefer the ways of the visionary that
will recognize what be what can be and what better be
consiedr what best and better be done and act accordingly
to ensure these three be one and the same...
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Date: March 30, 2018 at 23:59:44
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Just come out and say what you are claiming... |
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What you are saying you have said for many years:
You have stated many times that condoms are evil.
And you feel the same way about birth control.
Yes, being a visionary is a good way to be.
Instead of preaching to us on how to act and behave
like a visionary, behave like one yourself.
I want to be a visionary, therefore I will dedicate
myself to behaving like one, not preaching to others on
how to be one.
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 07:46:46
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: OK will simply come out and say what I be claiming... |
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OK will simply come out and say what I be claiming...
... via the reference to the statement: 'the one you feed'!
I hope that everyone here is familiar with the two wolf story or that you will seek
and become familiar with that story that we could summarise as:
there be stuff within each of us seeking to get out and about and grow, some of
the stuff will grow and will get out, while some stuff will not grow and remain as a
possible possibility, and the key as to what gets out and how it gets out involves
what each wills to feed and does feed and how one does that and this and the
other stuff.
The key be in realizing that what we feed and how we feed such influences
influences what happens then and there and beyond there and then. Some will
inadvertently feed that which better not be fead at all and will become habitual
puppets acting under the influence of such ways whilst creating and generating
more of such stuff. Some will realize and consider and do willfully feed that
which better and best be fead and will also become habitual patrons acting
under the influence of such ways whilst creating and generating more os such
stuff. Then three be those who will recognize consider and do what better be
done as best be done whilst treating each as each better be treated or even a
bit better than that. Some will realize to train and educate them wolfs to behave
approriately here and now and then and there everywhere including 'nowhere'
without a space or with a space after the third letter or after the second letter...
that is in the 'now here' or the 'no where'.
Now given you mentioned and invoked some notions, I will consider that as you,
or what predominates within you, as seeking to feed such notions, even-though
if it where up to me and up to them who seek what be better and best the
preferred notions to feed would involve the stuff that be best and better.
In a way it is true that what is being stated by me, has been stated by me, and
probably by others, for many many many years and in many many many many
ways. Yes at one time I did hold and state that some stuff be not good, just as I
recanted and asserted that the not good tools in and of themselves are neither
good nor not good and for that matter may not even be appropriate tools to
employ and wield... I would now attest that some stuff be best left as a possible
possibility to never be used and always remain as just a possible possibility. For
some reason, or no reason at all, based on observations of what you do and do
not do you do seem to prefer particular stuff and well let's just say it's neither
what be preferred by me nor what somebody who prefers the better and best
stuff would pick... heck even when you do focus on a good way to be you then
follow it with a not so good ways to exercise... preaching loaded statements
about not preaching to us on how to act and behave and showing by example
how to behave and act... look maybe each better do both attest what better be
done while doing what better be done.
If one want to be a visionary, one better will to dedicate themselves to behaving
as a visionary behaves, both bearing witness to everyone on how to be one,
while also being one and ensuring to behave as a visionary behaves. Ideally one
will also seek to be and endeavor to be a good benevolent visionary at the
service of benevolent and good stuff matter and issues that matter.
I realize that for some this may seem like a long response, just as for some this
may seem like a short response, and just as for some this response and it's
length be just right... I also realize that for some this may seem meaningless, just
as for some this may seem meaningful, and just as for some this is neither and
still they did and do and will manage to find meaningful stuff and matters and
issues that matter from this... it be how one employs and wields such that
realizes this or that or the other stuff... now be good and do well henceforth.
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:43:28
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re:et, You didn't come out and say "what I be claiming" and... |
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just another chaotic, confusing response
The same things you have been saying for many years
It is pointless to attempt to have a rational, sane
conversation with you.
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 09:50:38
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...if you really want to be a "visionary"... |
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...open your eyes and shut your mouth.
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:14:27
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Nevada should one head to what you claim or do?(NT) |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:54:27
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Nevada should one head to what you claim or do?(NT) |
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...one should do as one feels led to do.
Some count angels on the heads of pins, personally i
count lizards and chipmunks.
What I don't prefer is the method of chasing ones' tail
for paragraphs on end.
What I do like is working in my Nevada Zen garden where
tourists, lizards and dinosaurs often come together in
the same moment.
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 15:35:12
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Nevada ... led... led by who or what?(NT) |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 08:42:04
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Nope... |
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Nothing of what you just said there was simple or
clear, et.
Until you define in very precise terms exactly what
you mean by the words "better" and "better ways" and
"what be best" (that you obsessively insist we'd all
*better be doing* in a million permutations), none of
alllll those words you wrote clarifies a single
thing.
How can you imagine the wolf analogy being helpful
here when you haven't ever told any of us *exactly
what you mean* by these wordings? Which wolf are you
suggesting we feed, and what does he represent?
Exactly? The metaphor is meaningless without these
definitions.....
I suggest you respond to Jim's challenge by answering
it WITHOUT USING THE WORDS "BETTER, BETTER WAYS," or
"WHAT BE BEST,* even once...and instead, substitute
them with exactly what you MEAN by those terms, the
substance of their definition to you... Unless you do
that, et, no one's going to have a clue what you're
talking about...
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:15:55
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Wonder what shadow meant by "respond to Jim's challenge"(NT) |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:44:31
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Okay et, will spell it out for you |
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Jim's "challenge" was expressed to you right up
front, in his subject line in his post above:
"Just come out and say what you are claiming"
I then read his post...and your reply...and made
suggestions I strongly felt would facilitate he and I
and everyone else actually comprehending what you've
been talking about all these years.
You are now further avoiding clarifying exactly what
YOU MEAN by those words...focusing instead on how you
imagine others will qualify your definitions...as yet
another diversion/deflection.
Got it! Your defining exactly what you mean by those
words just ain't gonna happen. Figured that's how
this would go, but hey, y'never know... Carry on! lol
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 15:31:49
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Okay shadow, will restate it for you |
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I did reference that what I meant to mention basically involves the notion of 'the one you feed'!
I do realize that for some this may seem like a criptic response, just as for some this
may seem like a succinct response, and just as for some, like me, this in conjunction with what some perceive and
other stuff will induce individual(s) to realize all sort of stuff.
BTW the challenge of "Just come out and say what you are claiming" seems to me to implicates a loaded claim that
you did not come out and claim and state what you meant to attest. I hold that I did do say clearly what I wanted to
say, even if you and others did not manage to perceive it and hold that I did not instead of realizing that you just did
not manage to get it. and we could go off into determining if it was me or you who did or didn't do something but
that's a sideline issue related to what be going on... which may be succinctly put as:
1- I make a claim
2- you claim I did not make a clear claim
3. I assess that your characterization of what I stated as not being clear involves a rationalization you opted to create
(instead of opting to seek clarification related to what you perceived based on what was stated) and given that what
you did did not involve a quest to seek to understand the statements and involves an accusation that has no merits
when one has understood what was stated .
Let me be blunt to you want to understand and comprehend the assertions or want to do something else? It is rather
simple when one employs a word and makes a claim one feeds that notion... look at what each claims to realize what
each willfully opts to feed... for example let's take a look at something you stated "You are now further avoiding
clarifying exactly what YOU MEAN by those words...focusing instead on how you imagine others will qualify your
definitions...as yet another diversion/deflection". Observe closely how there is no mention of recognizing nor
considering the appropriate handling of stuff to guide and tend to the core issues. Even when I have provided distinct
defining criteria for terms and words few seem to take note and recognize such stuff. For example I provided the
criteria for what constitutes feeding a notion.. though I seriously suspect that you and others would have read it and
not managed to recognize it for what it be... so if I asked you what was the criteria that constitutes feeing a notion you
and others will likely not provide the correct response and likely claim that I did not provide such criteria instead of
recognizing that you simply did not perceive such criteria even-though I did provide such criteria...
You attested " Your defining exactly what you mean by those words just ain't gonna happen" ... and this shows telltale
signs to me that you just did not manage to recognize that I did define exactly what was meant by me by those
words... in other words the idea that it just ain't gonna happen is clouding your assessments of what has happened
especially considering that it has already happened even if you did not manage to apprehend such event... and given
that you did not manage to apprehend such event multiple times in the past leads me to consider that you will likely
not manage to apprehend such event now and likely in the future thus I find little point in repeating and redooing what
I have done many times... A professor once told me that if one argues for limitations these become one's limitation
even if just to win the argument... much better to dialogue about recognizing what be considering what can and better
be and doing what better be done as better and best be done... in simple terms treat each as each better be treated
(do pay attention this may or may not correspond with how some think/feel/realize each better be treated. I stated
'treat each as each better be treated' )
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 15:43:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: One last time... ;D |
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You ignored my suggestion that defining these terms you
use so voluminously, without ever clarifying them,
might finally provide a way for you to be understood
by...well, everyone, judging by feedback you receive
here...and since that's your choice, I'm going back to
ignoring you as I've been for the past few years.
Have a nice day!
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Date: April 01, 2018 at 15:41:36
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Do hope you read what I had responded and which was censored out(NT) |
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Date: April 01, 2018 at 12:11:20
From: Justin Sane, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: One last time... ;D |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:32:47
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: et, shadow made very clear what she meant(NT) |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:11:15
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: attaining understanding of simple clear response... |
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Re: attaining understanding of simple clear response...
depends on both the writer and the reader managing to
entertain such a case.
While reading what you posted, I was at one point thinking
of responding something along the line of highlighting that
the meaning for words depend on the individuals
associations not the words used then again some terms do
seem to be associated to certain stuff more than other
terms... take for example "me MEAN, that me not MEAN, me
NICE" this to make the point that "words do not mean
something, individuals associate meanings to words".
I do find a bit humorous that you condition what I have to do
for you in other for those words written by me to become
clear and simple for you to know and understand though
even if I do that which you stipulated, the words will not
clarify a single thing for you... because you have to do that
yourself!
As to what you sort of asked related to --- How can one
imagine the wolf analogy being helpful here when one has
not ever told others ______ nor specified which wolf one be
suggesting we feed, and what does he represent?--- Notice
how again this hardly focuses on getting the analogy nor
understanding it.
You stated "The metaphor is meaningless without these
definitions....." to which I will respond "is it thus or do some
find it to be thus given what they hold to be and claim to
be"? followed by wondering about "why do some focus on
meaningless stuff instead of finding meaningful stuff"?
As you may recognize I have responded to you while
abstaining from using particular words and notions to show
telltale signs that I can and may if I choose to do so
accomplish such a task... As to substitute exactly what be
denoted by me when employing some terms providing the
core underlying substance distinctive telltale signs of what
the terms definitions involve... and how " Unless I do
that, no one's going to have a clue what you're
talking about.." well just know and understand that
somebody does have a clue what I be talking about even if
you claim that nobody does because you do not understand
nor know nor seem to show telltale sings that reflect that
you do seek to understand and know. Of course you might
consider that you have shown telltale signs that reflect that
you do seek to know and understand... and I simply have not
seen sensed nor perceived such signals as such... and if this
be the case to point to such instances... ideally using the
data claim warrant format... that is when I stated ______ I
expected ______ given _____.
As a sort of succinct wrap-up :
what was just stated by me here is as simple or complicated
as one makes it be, in an of itself what was just stated by me
just be what was just stated by me... just as what was
perceived by you be what was perceived by you... and there
is a chance these two involve the same thing though until
we ensure these two involve the same thing its more likely
that you are more responsible for what you perceive and
make of it than I be of you perceiving it as such...
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 12:15:38
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: attaining understanding of simple clear response... |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 15:33:44
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: bopp why you claim this was the wrong board?(NT) |
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 12:01:08
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...so much for being a "visionary"... |
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...perhaps you could go back to deep breathing for a
paragraph or two so the rest of us can catch back with
you...
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Date: March 31, 2018 at 11:37:46
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: omg et... |
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Nevermind! LOL...just nevermind... ;->
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