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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Blessed Imbolc to All... ;)
URL: http://www.thewhitegoddess.co.uk/the_wheel_of_the_year/imbolc.asp
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Traditionally/currently celebrated February 1/2, literal/astrological Imbolc falls upon whatever day our transiting Sun reaches 15 Aquarius...which, this year, happens over this weekend, Saturday/Sunday Feb. 3rd/4th, depending on timezone... A couple links offering interpretations of this beauteous Gaian-/Earth-based Spirituality's Cross- Quarter Point upon The Great Wheel of Cycles...the Imminent Return of the Light...one in the link window and another below: http://www.newgrange.com/imbolc.htm |
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From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Blessed Imbolc to All... ;)
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Blessed Imbolc to you as well.Wish the weather was more spring-like to get me in a celebratory mood. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Blessed Imbolc to All... ;)
URL: http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Yourtel?aim=0&z=1
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Yes, I posted it on dreams to marja early morn regarding Candlemas/Imbolc in her Isle of Man dream. In the real time sky above your head the Sun is actually in the constellation of Capricorn. (see real time sky map link for the true location of the luminaries in constellations if interested.) Only on a astrology chart which is not reflective of the actual sky is it what you said...so imo it's not actual....Further it's not making the below as the above to follow such in the thoughts being it does not match the real time sky.) Just as importantly the Earth is in constellation of Cancer currently. The Moon is in constellation Leo. The actual time of the cross-quarter date is February 3rd (see link on that): http://archaeoastronomy.com/2018.html As for the many of the customs as presented/associated with this cross-quarter day nowadays I think it's far out reach and not only that Gaia is being mightily abused and is plumb tuckered out. However, I do feel there is something more on a different level that is not so obvious but may soon be revealed in it's entirety which may have to do with regeneration for whomever it is applicable for. |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Blessed Imbolc to All... ;)
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Eve, The Solstices/Equinoxes/Cross-Quarter days are phenomena that have a bit of shared territory between the realms of astrology and astronomy. The cross- quarter positions of the Sun within this ancient cycle lie within the fixed signs of astrology, at 15 degrees...and, yes, as I mentioned, Imbolc falls at 15 Aquarius, which happens Feb. 2nd/3rd... I do realize that because you have limited understanding of the science of astrology, so cannot know its veracity...and that because it's working from a symbolic system that differs from the actual real-time astronomical positions in the sky overhead, you don't feel inclined toward considering things differently. No problem with that. I do find this remark of yours interesting, though: "However, I do feel there is something more on a different level that is not so obvious but may soon be revealed in it's entirety which may have to do with regeneration for whomever it is applicable for." To me, what you're speaking of here intuitively touches on the true intention/understanding of esoteric astrology, when understood in its true scope! But then, that's my template of understanding, my own context. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Blessed Imbolc to All... ;)
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Nay, I know about sun signs an it is not limited knowledge. I know about astronomy and know to compare the twain....The best word for what you share is sun signs as even the word astrology is misleading and misunderstood. Your knowledge to me seems limited in either real time sky or sun signs. If your sun sign charts do not match the sky real time in symbolism...it's not gonna workie and imo is false and that is evident given the predictions and the selling of such...it's for sale as a craft and a million different so called experts cannot agree on it and all say they are right when they are wrong. And no one seems to get why it may work SOMETIMES because it is what it is in ones belief as in a thought projections (as you think so you are...I not a sun sign but you can be cause you want to be) Yet as having examined for me sun sign charts are not reality being they do not line up with the real stars and planets....And did even in that the sun sign craft did not proceed with the last equinox, so that sets it backwards even more. That's one reason why this world is turning backwards...I can't explain it to you but I understand what it is. For all the fluffy stuff and imaginary sweeties that are said regarding this sun sign and positive mantra stuff the world is getting worse and sun sign charts are not helping it out of the mire and it keeps falling down. That is because sun signs are not a solid foundation so no pillars can be placed on it that is in anyway supportive of true wisdom. It's a choice but I will speak to it sometimes when such is presented as even if most minds are set against seeing it openly here...It may very well be someone else may read and consider that it's sun signs are not what they are cracked up to be. If not now, maybe later when the time to step out of this worlds matrix. I can tell you truly none of it fits me and makes no sense trying to understand oneself via a fictitious chart of the heavens. I am in no way a sun sign thingie or am I defined by that...just not and if you are it's because you choose to be. For myself I refuse to allow a fictitious sun sign chart out my sojourn. Now as to the other I feel yes in REAL TIME sky there is something to the heavens that speaks to time. However I realize that I don't have to totally know that (though distinguishing that from sun signs is important which I have done) for the salvation of my soul I need my Lord to follow first and foremost and he did not say to follow the stars in the sky or what some others in this world may say to that .... but to follow him and do as he did. I learned of this because I had heavenly visions and my Lord said to me there is something about the stars...He also said to me that the time of the fallen angels is nearly over (that's the good news)...I was shown this world burning from above and told "it will burn!"...and he said SOON!...,The time mechanism is in the turning of the wheels of luminaries (earth being one of them) ...not on some fictitious man made sun sign chart or man made calendar or ticky tock clock. I also keep in mind we are in the tree of good and evil and everything must be sifted to the nth degree to distinguish because the enemy in spirit would have us thinking the bad is good. ("There is a way that seems right to man but in the end leads to destruction"...Proverbs). That horoscopes most of us learn from or I did are in the fake newspapers for sale...that there is a clue to their origination...and they are so vaguely worded one could read many things into it and even form a belief system around it....it's a religion and it's organized by the sun sign charts, etc. Even the Vatican has a sun signs charts that tiled on the floor for the public...but behind the scenes they have astronomers that watch the heavens and I assure you they are looking at the stars real time all the while promoting to the flock hey look as this here astrology sun sign chart on the tile floor to greet you upon entrance.....hehehehe.......Something is double minded about that and I have been given to understand what it is. To do that to understand to ones whose belief is centered on sun sign charts means they have to toss out all they the think may be true and test it by walking the narrow road...It scares most away...but not me because I did that but I don't see it happening for anyone else and I understand why that is also. I share what I do because there may come a time when it is what is actually real must be faced and sharing what I do may help another who reads this in a good way....Though it's not a popular thing to say...especially on this forum...But I am not here to win a popularity contest nor is that why I am in this world on this sojourn. So I am on my own sojourn and though our paths cross here it's doubtful they will when the sojourn is over. I don't believe we all end up in the same place or return to be in a worse place so we can get better nor are we all on the same road. I do believe only one road, the narrow one leads to my true home. There is no way I want to come back to this world in a worse fleshy body and in a worse world being as time goes on it makes for a more difficult if not impossible world to overcome. It is evident to me as time goes on and this world keeps spinning further backwards and upside down my goal is to never return to such a place as this has become. I know you see and believe another way...I get that. So maybe this is for as I said again, someone else to consider. I don't see you ever changing your mind and besides I am not trying to change it. |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Eve
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Just one little thing here, gently: Your imagining that astrology revolves entirely around Sun signs makes it very clear that you have no understanding whatsoever of this symbolic system's complexity and depth... I won't offend your sensibilities by attempting to give you a true sense of it; it's clear your natural orientation holds no value in exploring the truth of it and, again, I have no issue with that... But I also felt to mention this clarification for anyone out there whose exposure to astrology has been limited to "astrology columns" in newspapers that offer sun-sign daily forecasts, which can't ever be anything but hopelessly generalized... |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Eve
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No I am not imagining sun sign astrology revolves around the sun entirely...it is where it begins but then tosses a few other make believe positions of planets in the mix. Where the sun is being central to the craft. It's why folks say they are a scorpion or a ram, a bull, etc. Nice try but my perspective is not limited to newspapers and magazines. How could that be so if I know that the sun sign charting craft did not proceed with the last equinox and it's map of the constellations does not match up with the real time sky as real constellations are not in perfect groups of 30 degrees ?...But like on Earth as in the heavens around us there are big and small and varying degrees. Sun sign charts are make believe basically. Though you may think you know my mind and the things I have learned you do not nor do you perceive or realize just how much I do know about this topic. It's lost on you and I am not surprised. As I said it's not for you what I share but thank you for allowing me the opportunities to do so. |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Eve
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Oh my... ;-> Yeah, just one more time here, and I'll let it go...lol... Dear Eve, with all respect: NO, you do NOT understand astrology in its true context. I'm here to tell you that loud and clear...without apology nor compromise. Please understand that when you've really not studied something in depth, it's quite obvious to anyone who has... And also: Not sure if you can hear this, but, I have *no other opinion or positon whatsoever regarding the validity of your own context of perception and reality* as, just as you say, I cannot imagine it in ITS perfect context. It is YOURS. Please stop projecting me as intending otherwise. |
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From: Evie, [DNS_Address]
Subject: okay ty again
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I said it's for someone else out there not you per se....but you want it to be for you I guess...okay that's fine by me but you are by the same token attempting to perceive what I know and that is your projection of me so I send it back so that seems fair...you know balance it out like the scorpions big claw justice is disguised as Libra....lol p.s. No one understands sun sign astrology ...cause it is illogical and makes no sense to pretend it's reality. ;-P |
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From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And a beautifully deeper piece here...
URL: https://www.druidry.org/library/gods-goddesses/brigid-survival-goddess
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From: snodrop, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And a beautifully deeper piece here...
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Beautiful...especially symbolic in this year of the woman. Thanks! (hugs) snodrop |
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From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: It's St. Brigid Day too! n/t
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it's one in the same...
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....Imbolc/Candlemas is St. Brigid Day. http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/01/imbolc-candlemas-and-bridgets-day-2018-what-is-the-festival-all-about-7209687/ In the Southern Hemisphere it is Lughnasadh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lughnasadh |
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