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Date: January 12, 2018 at 09:57:53
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The Egg ;) |
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Had this excellent short story brought back onto my radar yesterday...by my brand-new daughter-in-law, during our first meeting. ;-> *sigh* lol She's my own heart. ;D
The Egg by Andy Weir
You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you god?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”
“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way.
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Date: January 18, 2018 at 01:08:02
From: Terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Shadow what I say does NOT reflect on you or your new DI L |
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please don't take it personally I Understand the need for maturity and Wisdom but IMHO I don't Need to Harm someone to know that I don't WANT to harm someone or be harmed I BELIEVE I can FORGIVE !!!! and in forgiveness show not only Maturity but COMPASSION I DO understand the concept of getting done to me what I do to others but if anyone ever harmed ME I FORGIVE THEM I DONT NEED OR DESIRE TO HARM THEM BACK love and Light Terra
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Date: January 18, 2018 at 05:47:51
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sweet Terra11 |
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I'm afraid you've completely misinterpreted the point of this story, angel...please take a few deep breaths! {{{Hugs}}}
If Andy Weir had included a line or two, in it, which specified the pivotal detail that going through so many angles of human experience, at so many levels of soul age and consciousness, was TO gain the wisdom to Do No Harm oneself, to forgive harm done you, to learn what it means to truly forgive, to gain empathic compassion for another's experience, to allow others to be who they are *without judgement*....I think maybe it might've been easier for you to grasp...? But then again maybe not...
This simply reflects at least one angle of deeper insight into what the reincarnational process is truly about... I know we've been here years together but I don't recall whether you resonate w/that or not... ;)
Love to you!
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Date: January 19, 2018 at 01:16:15
From: Terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Sweet Terra11 Thanks Shadow YOU are Awesome!!!congratulations |
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On your Cool new Daughter in Law --Yes I totally believe in reincarnation Love and Light terra
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Date: January 19, 2018 at 07:35:50
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Thank you Terra... ;) n/t |
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Date: January 18, 2018 at 10:21:13
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: shadow seems to me to completely misinterpreted the point (NT) |
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Date: January 18, 2018 at 10:59:52
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Well of course et! ;D |
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Whatever else could we possibly expect you to conclude, given our exchanges over these years and at *this* point? lol...
Have a nice day... ;->
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Date: January 18, 2018 at 15:02:16
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Glad you agree... you too have a nice day, be well & do good...(NT) |
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Date: January 20, 2018 at 09:12:32
From: Nevada, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ...is that like shaking hands with boxing gloves on?(NT) |
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Date: January 20, 2018 at 10:02:56
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ...that be more like shaking head as one drives by (NT) |
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Date: January 18, 2018 at 00:38:27
From: Terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The point is for me to MATURE? And I have to molest a child |
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And drink their terrorized blood TO MATURE??? and I have to murder a teenage girl and do all kinds of horrendous acts So I can BE GOD??? or God like ????? SORRY BUT THAT Doesn't sound LIKE ANY GOd I would want to emulate--Sounds like the Devil to meI mean Think about it!!!!WHEN DOES IT EVER END?!!! HItler wS in 1942 but what about John Wayne Gacy the serial killer or Jack the Ripper or a@@ of the pediaphiles and rapists and molesters WHEN DOES IT EVER GETMOVER IF EVERYONE HAS TO BE A.L OF THOSE SICK DEVIENT MMONSTERS????This isn't about religion ITS ABOUT TERROR AND PAIN AND HATE WHY WOULD THAT BE OKAY EVER???? HOW ABOUT WE ALL LEARN TO BE LOVE AND NOT COMMIT THOSE HORRENDOUS ACTS ????? THat would be MY GOD!!!!
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Date: January 17, 2018 at 14:54:53
From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
URL: http://www.mind-your-reality.com/universal_mind.html |
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This link somewhat follows The Egg.I was surprsied the author of The Egg is a Computer Scientist and Sci-Fi lover. Truth comes in all forms I guess
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Date: January 19, 2018 at 07:58:54
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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Thanks for your posts, Sue, just now saw them for some reason, and for the link to that nice site. And that's a big ten-four right there, how Truth comes in all forms, translated through so many different individual's interpretation of the same thing... So much wisdom exists to be tapped into, that can help us grasp it conceptually, at least... Real understanding of the reality of Oneness, IMHO, can only come experientially, and that's one reason I love The Egg story so much... ;)
Argh, more I'd like to say here but will have to try later...
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Date: January 15, 2018 at 19:05:43
From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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I have been letting this sink in. Mostly it makes sense to me. The fluidity of time I still am having a hard time with. Interacting with self an even harder time understanding. I completely think all is one and one is all. Good post, thanks
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 12:55:09
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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hard to take that i am the donnie...lol...but definitely a good point of reference to consider when judging others...
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 14:20:11
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ryan I think you will have a harder time accepting you be me(NT) |
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 15:20:31
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Ryan I think you will have a harder time accepting you be me(NT) |
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sorry et, but in the big picture, you are insignificant...lol
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 17:57:31
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: some tell others, what applies to them... |
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... & sometimes even what applies to the others!
Some know how significant they are in the scheme of things, true things.
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 15:10:48
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: et, actually very easy to believe, it cuts both ways, and... |
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There is a part of me and Ryan in you. And there was a part of you in me during my alcoholic years.
And remember you posted on here years ago regarding your problems with alcohol. I reached out to you if I could be supportive of you.
It dramatically shows there are parts of me in you and parts of you in me.
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 18:23:06
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: IF such belief where true THEN yea it cuts both ways... ELSE... |
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... it does not cut both ways you be you me be me and God be God.
As to "I reached out to you if I could be supportive of you"... well I too reached out to help and be supportive and did help and you opted to do what you opted to do.
As to "It dramatically shows there are parts of ...." of what some opt to do and some opt not to do... me be at peace in truth ... as to you well that's your business now... one way or the other way what you create will be with you henceforth... choose wisely what you do from this point onwards.
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 19:20:43
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: IF such belief where true THEN yea it cuts both ways... ELSE... |
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Your typical sermon, lecture, and unasked for advice. I stand by my post. I will make this my last post in this thread. Because I find moral outrage for you for wanting to remove one of my family members from society for being a sexual minority. That is not spiritual behavior in my opinion. I'm done, goodbye, it's all yours.
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 19:49:55
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: RE: my typical sermon? nay a typical sermon which you claim be mine |
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instead of claiming and recognizing as belonging to you given you created it and not to me... as to the other stuff you created in the response you sent... well that too is mostly if not all your doing... and has little to do with me or what was the focus of this thread ...
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 14:21:23
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: but me be me and only me :-) (NT) |
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 13:03:15
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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lol ryan... Yeah I've got a few more that give me a moment... ;->
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 12:19:01
From: Karin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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it is great. do you have a link for it ?
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 13:06:43
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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I was so happy to be reminded of it... ;)
Here we go:
A copy-/paste-able version:
http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html
And here's a little Wiki tidbit on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Egg_(short_story)
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 13:14:50
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oh wait, here... |
URL: http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html |
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(Realized I should've put the main link where it belongs; copy/pasting links from this textbox doesn't always work for everyone as I recall... ;)
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 19:37:47
From: Karin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oh wait, here... |
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 11:18:38
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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WOW! A powerful story. It stretches your mind as to what reincarnation really is.
Congratulations on your new family member.
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Date: January 12, 2018 at 13:03:38
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Egg ;) |
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Isn't it though?
And thanks so much... ;)
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