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Date: December 31, 2017 at 15:26:40
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: This can be difficult: how can one know one fell for scam beliefs?


Read something which seemed to me to easily apply to
spiritual insights...

How can you start a conversation with someone about
suspicions beliefs that they may be being scammed by?

This can be difficult, as each may feel they have chosen
aright and opted for a great opportunity, or one may feel one
has built up a good relationship with the farmer and the idea
of everyone delighting on you being there and being at
everyone's mouth at that thanksgiving dinner seem like a
good thing. Do not be fooled into thinking black swans do
not exists because you have never seen one... Some know
and understand and describe this turkey effect
(http://microgridnews.com/microgrid-antifragility-resilience/)

Some may feel defensive or embarrassed, and likely opt to
jump into an argument being triggered instead of pursuing
amenable dialogues... it's important each concerned about
this thinks feels and realizes that each better learn to judge
and judge aright least they do not consider something they
should had considered.

One way of tackling the tricky subjects be to find a recent
story about someone being scammed as a way of starting a
conversation about how people can protect themselves.
Though many will reject such things believing they are
protected by the farmer... until they get taken/sent/prepared
for the kitchen oven...


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Date: December 31, 2017 at 17:39:45
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's actually very simple, et, because....


Listen to your words like, each had better learn.
That is unasked for advice. You are stating what We
should or shouldn't do.

You know you have beliefs I find absolutely horrible
and obnoxious re: a family member of mine.
You have every right to those beliefs but you have no
right to in essence command us to believe as you do.

No,your claim "each had better learn" is a hollow
attempt to order us to believe as you do.

I have attempted to write this in a manner that meets
Bopps rules. Hopefully I have succeeded. I feel very
strongly about this issue.


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Date: January 04, 2018 at 22:36:32
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's actually very simple, et, because....


I don't worry about who believes in what until it affects me personally and I'm pretty sure others feel that way also..how do you know the truth from lies, the truth can't be challenged.. nor fall from the grace of God...it's always there "perfect". No man/woman is "God"..Because God Is an essence, not an human person, though tis said we were made in his image... Gods essence Is in everything universally...his spirit can come through others in good works... but that's about as far as It goes. God told us that at Mt. Sinai..."I am that I am"...the burning bush episode. He is everything in that he is one.


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Date: January 05, 2018 at 13:17:23
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: just about everything done and not done affects what happens


kemokae while some like to believe that what they do or
what others do does not affect them personally the truth of
the matter is that there is always some effect to some
degree....

As to the expression "how do you know the truth from lies,
the truth can't be challenged.. nor fall from the grace of
God.." well that sort of induces me to think of where does the
truth form lies, that one may learn to know?

As to " No man/woman is 'God'"... well that seem to deny
'the fact' that Jesus Christ is God :-) ... I do believe God can
become human ... heck God can become anything God
desires and wills to be... I put 'the fact' because some do not
believe this to be the case and so they will sort of claim some
variant to "the alleged fact" ... still that not that relevant to the
point here... which involves that God being able to do and be
whatever God wills to do and be... For me the claim
"Because God Is an essence" restricts God to that domain...
and well that we restrict God hardly is going to restric God if
God dreams not to be restricted by us....

Yes I too believe that the spirit of God can come through
others in good works... though I also believe that God may
intervene in all sort of ways if God so chooses to do it...

As to "..the burning bush episode. " do recall that the bush
radiated light without burning down...


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Date: December 31, 2017 at 19:16:56
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's actually very simple, et, because....


Jim that some find some beliefs that be good to be
absolutely horrible and find not not so good beliefs to be
absolutely adorable hardly changes the facts involved... and
that beliefs that be good be beliefs that be good... even if
some hold that these are not good.

Yes I know you find some beliefs held by me to be absolutely
horrible instead of finding them beliefs to be adorable and in
accord to what actually really happens to be best... not sure
why you keep seeking to bring into the conversation you
family members as if that has some bearing into what be the
correct ways to behave...

As to "You have every right to those beliefs but you have no
right to in essence command us to believe as you do"... well
know and understand that I am not commanding you or
other to believe as I do, I am merely stating a fact that them
who believe know and understand what be correct and
correctly bear witness to something will be correct and do
the correct things .... and those that don't won't. Notice I am
stating this in the generic form without getting into who is
right ad who isn't correct... I am merely stating that them who
are correct are correct and them who are not correct are not
correct....

As to the claim "each had better learn" being a hollow
attempt to order you to believe as I do or an invitation to
learn as each had better learn .... well you seem to me to be
inviting us to believe as you do and hold that what I did
involves a hollow attempt to order you to believe as i do ... na
I was simply attesting that each had better learn what each
had better learn whatever that may happen to be... if you
want to hold that each better not learn what each better learn
that's up to you...

I too have sought to"... write this in a manner that meets
Bopps rules. Hopefully I have succeeded" and hopefully this
will not be deleted and be allowed to stay . Hopefully you will
realize that many of the things I have said and hold involve
pertain to what best be done and that the focus of mine has
been on seeking what be correct in accord to what be
correct.... today is the last day of the year and in a way the
last day of an age and henceforth a new beginning hope
each opts to use the present to do what best be done and to
cultivate what better be cultivated... in a way now begins the
rest of time and we may choose what to carry with us and
create from this point forward.... hopefully it will be good and
beneficial stuff focused on what best be done as better be
done .

I too ...think/feel/realize very strongly about these issues.
hopefully the past will be in the past and the future will bring
better things as we each endeavor to do what best be done...
hopefully other will collaborate to do make this a better
present and future...


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