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Date: December 31, 2017 at 15:26:40
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: This can be difficult: how can one know one fell for scam beliefs? |
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Read something which seemed to me to easily apply to spiritual insights...
How can you start a conversation with someone about suspicions beliefs that they may be being scammed by?
This can be difficult, as each may feel they have chosen aright and opted for a great opportunity, or one may feel one has built up a good relationship with the farmer and the idea of everyone delighting on you being there and being at everyone's mouth at that thanksgiving dinner seem like a good thing. Do not be fooled into thinking black swans do not exists because you have never seen one... Some know and understand and describe this turkey effect (http://microgridnews.com/microgrid-antifragility-resilience/)
Some may feel defensive or embarrassed, and likely opt to jump into an argument being triggered instead of pursuing amenable dialogues... it's important each concerned about this thinks feels and realizes that each better learn to judge and judge aright least they do not consider something they should had considered.
One way of tackling the tricky subjects be to find a recent story about someone being scammed as a way of starting a conversation about how people can protect themselves. Though many will reject such things believing they are protected by the farmer... until they get taken/sent/prepared for the kitchen oven...
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Date: December 31, 2017 at 17:39:45
From: JimW, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's actually very simple, et, because.... |
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Listen to your words like, each had better learn. That is unasked for advice. You are stating what We should or shouldn't do.
You know you have beliefs I find absolutely horrible and obnoxious re: a family member of mine. You have every right to those beliefs but you have no right to in essence command us to believe as you do.
No,your claim "each had better learn" is a hollow attempt to order us to believe as you do.
I have attempted to write this in a manner that meets Bopps rules. Hopefully I have succeeded. I feel very strongly about this issue.
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Date: January 04, 2018 at 22:36:32
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's actually very simple, et, because.... |
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I don't worry about who believes in what until it affects me personally and I'm pretty sure others feel that way also..how do you know the truth from lies, the truth can't be challenged.. nor fall from the grace of God...it's always there "perfect". No man/woman is "God"..Because God Is an essence, not an human person, though tis said we were made in his image... Gods essence Is in everything universally...his spirit can come through others in good works... but that's about as far as It goes. God told us that at Mt. Sinai..."I am that I am"...the burning bush episode. He is everything in that he is one.
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Date: January 05, 2018 at 13:17:23
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: just about everything done and not done affects what happens |
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kemokae while some like to believe that what they do or what others do does not affect them personally the truth of the matter is that there is always some effect to some degree....
As to the expression "how do you know the truth from lies, the truth can't be challenged.. nor fall from the grace of God.." well that sort of induces me to think of where does the truth form lies, that one may learn to know?
As to " No man/woman is 'God'"... well that seem to deny 'the fact' that Jesus Christ is God :-) ... I do believe God can become human ... heck God can become anything God desires and wills to be... I put 'the fact' because some do not believe this to be the case and so they will sort of claim some variant to "the alleged fact" ... still that not that relevant to the point here... which involves that God being able to do and be whatever God wills to do and be... For me the claim "Because God Is an essence" restricts God to that domain... and well that we restrict God hardly is going to restric God if God dreams not to be restricted by us....
Yes I too believe that the spirit of God can come through others in good works... though I also believe that God may intervene in all sort of ways if God so chooses to do it...
As to "..the burning bush episode. " do recall that the bush radiated light without burning down...
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Date: December 31, 2017 at 19:16:56
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's actually very simple, et, because.... |
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Jim that some find some beliefs that be good to be absolutely horrible and find not not so good beliefs to be absolutely adorable hardly changes the facts involved... and that beliefs that be good be beliefs that be good... even if some hold that these are not good.
Yes I know you find some beliefs held by me to be absolutely horrible instead of finding them beliefs to be adorable and in accord to what actually really happens to be best... not sure why you keep seeking to bring into the conversation you family members as if that has some bearing into what be the correct ways to behave...
As to "You have every right to those beliefs but you have no right to in essence command us to believe as you do"... well know and understand that I am not commanding you or other to believe as I do, I am merely stating a fact that them who believe know and understand what be correct and correctly bear witness to something will be correct and do the correct things .... and those that don't won't. Notice I am stating this in the generic form without getting into who is right ad who isn't correct... I am merely stating that them who are correct are correct and them who are not correct are not correct....
As to the claim "each had better learn" being a hollow attempt to order you to believe as I do or an invitation to learn as each had better learn .... well you seem to me to be inviting us to believe as you do and hold that what I did involves a hollow attempt to order you to believe as i do ... na I was simply attesting that each had better learn what each had better learn whatever that may happen to be... if you want to hold that each better not learn what each better learn that's up to you...
I too have sought to"... write this in a manner that meets Bopps rules. Hopefully I have succeeded" and hopefully this will not be deleted and be allowed to stay . Hopefully you will realize that many of the things I have said and hold involve pertain to what best be done and that the focus of mine has been on seeking what be correct in accord to what be correct.... today is the last day of the year and in a way the last day of an age and henceforth a new beginning hope each opts to use the present to do what best be done and to cultivate what better be cultivated... in a way now begins the rest of time and we may choose what to carry with us and create from this point forward.... hopefully it will be good and beneficial stuff focused on what best be done as better be done .
I too ...think/feel/realize very strongly about these issues. hopefully the past will be in the past and the future will bring better things as we each endeavor to do what best be done... hopefully other will collaborate to do make this a better present and future...
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