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Date: September 19, 2016 at 11:56:26
From: Karin in SE OR, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth |
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Date: September 19, 2016 at 23:15:15
From: Raymond, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth |
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I met her at a New Age conference several years ago. She autographed my books from her...:)
I wonder how much of the channeled information is 100 percent reliable and how much is influenced by our own subconscious influences?
And I am still trying to meditate to reach the level of communicating with my guides. I am jealous of those who can......:(
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 07:51:56
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Another... |
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Another good way to "break on through"... is water... meditate in water, even if it's just filling a bucket and putting your feet in it... water is a great connector...
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Date: September 20, 2016 at 08:43:33
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth |
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As far as I know Dolores did not channel her stuff- what was "channeled" was from her clients info, ie as they were progressed or put under hypnosis, they were the ones channeling. I just watched a video where she is discussing that. Never read any of her books though. So yeah, as her clients were channeling supposedly under influence of being what? not consciously speaking- who might have really given that info? And how accurate is that is the question.
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 07:46:05
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth |
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Yeah, that's what the article I posted goes into... I have to agree with the perspective that it seems dangerous... like experimenting with another persons life and spiritual well being, inviting entities to come in to another, no threat or risk to you but potentially for those put into hypnosis by you... you never know what is going to take hold...
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 09:45:09
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: /Rig |
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I have found that during my lifetime beginning in the 70's when I asked Creator to show me my past lives I began to get a series of dreams which has showed allot of it. And continues to this day. I don't think I could ever be hypnotized or allow another to try to do that to me. That is giving too much power of someone over me and I don't go for that.
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 11:27:32
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) |
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 13:54:33
From: me, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) well |
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there is technology, U know that is able to 'put u out' without your consent think on that or not
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 14:19:34
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) well |
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Not only put you out but kill you as well, or just cripple or torture you.
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Date: September 21, 2016 at 14:59:28
From: me, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) well |
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Date: September 20, 2016 at 22:23:08
From: Raymond, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth |
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+1
Yeah, you are right, she hypnotized people or otherwise helped them meditate to a deep level to find those revelations.
My psychic teacher did the same for me on a couple of occasions but I had no results. I felt like Charlie Brown and his Christmas Tree.
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Date: September 20, 2016 at 08:41:25
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth |
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You should read my copy pasted post below...
As for "trying to meditate to reach the level of communicating with my guides/jealous of those who can"... jealousy and similar thoughts build roadblocks, and I'm left with the impression that you're trying to force it... just meditate, or better yet don't... just be quiet and still, mentally, Spiritually... and it will happen, or it wont... depending on if they have anything to say, or not...
Some of my best moments of connection and communication are when I'm working, physical labor, yard/garden work is good... focus just enough to keep working safely, so you don't hurt yourself, or the odd pet that may be around "supervising"... and let the rest of your mind filter itself to a quiet status... and if something comes through pay attention, may be a Guide, a God, an Ancestor... but may also be an Unfriendly, so be ready with a shield... and a Spiritual club, I tend to envisage medieval weapons, but also a baseball bat works good on Enemies... just sayin'... ;)
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Date: September 20, 2016 at 09:17:35
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon/Rig and Raymond |
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That's how it works for me Rig, while I am busy doing something. To me its rather like the zen mode - chop wood, carry water. or just the alpha state. Or in bed quite before sleep or just being quiet. Hey Raymond, I replied to your dream you shared the other day. About the pizza and the flies- would like you to see it please and thanks.
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Date: September 20, 2016 at 23:46:52
From: Raymond, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon/Rig and Raymond |
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Thanks Pamela....
I appreciate the time you took to reply.
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Date: September 19, 2016 at 14:09:22
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Interesting bloggy thing... when New Agers question New Agers... |
URL: http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2013/06/dolores-cannon-and-hypnosis-channeling.html |
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Interesting perspective, I almost like this person... takes Delores Cannon to practices and conclusions to task... this is from "Ascensionwithearth.com", reblogged from another site that comes up with "can't find it" message... it's from 2013...
Somewhere up in Heaven, they're laughing. I was pondering what I'd cover in my next entry and considering doing a nice, positive spiritual piece, then something happened: a new Dolores Cannon interview appeared. Immediately, I knew that Spirit had handed me my next assignment. I get to be the one who offers the counterpoint to the kindly old grandma. How do I land all the glamour jobs?!?
Just when I thought I could stop writing about deceptions...
...they pull me back in!
It is necessary to contend with grammy, though, because her form of channeling has produced a number of books that paint a potentially misleading picture of the afterlife, which is a subject I'll discuss in a future entry. But for now, I'll dust off an entry I wrote about Dolores back on February 24 for the benefit of all the new readers. I've added a new update at the bottom and might add another after I listen to her most recent interview. Here goes....
I listened to a Dolores Cannon interview yesterday, and while it was as uplifting and positive as her interviews usually are, something just didn't sit right. She said that in all her work over the years, she'd never encountered anything negative, which struck me as an oversimplification if not an outright untruth. So I felt led to go to my bookcase and dust off one of my many unread metaphysical books, The Custodians, which was written by Dolores.
Upon opening the book, I immediately came upon a relevant section. On page 259, she has a patient under deep hypnosis and is using her as a communication conduit to talk to an "alien." While discussing the practical precautions his species takes when abducting and returning humans, the alien goes on to say...
"Other beings sometimes do not return an Earth being. But that being probably would eventually expire after a short period of time. We prefer not to do that, because we are here to help. Some beings view human life in more animalistic terms, and treat a being as you would a cow. You know, perhaps dissect it for scientific reasons, just thinking of it as an unintelligent animal. Usually never to eat or anything of that nature, and they probably would wait until the being did expire before any type of such experiments would take place. But we honor the life here. We have made a commitment, in the council, to help the beings here, even though we are more advanced."
So the being with whom she is speaking specifically tells her that there are not-so-nice aliens who abduct humans, usually not to eat them, and who usually let them die before dissecting them like lab rats. I was surprised to see such information in one of her books because in her interviews, she makes it sound like there are no bad aliens, there is no Cabal, and all is peaches and cream.
Knowing that the thesis of the book is that alien abductions are misunderstood and are actually a positive phenomenon, I went to the front of the book to see if she addressed the dissonance. She did. On page 10, she writes about the aliens' reasons for abduction...
"I do not believe they are doing this for their purposes, but for ours. Of course, we have seen that there are several different types of entities involved, and there could be some negative types doing these things for their own gains. But I believe these are in the minority, the renegades or mavericks of the UFO groups."
In this passage, she says that there "could be" some negative types doing self-serving abductions, but the alien on page 259 specifically states that there are; there is no "could be" about it. Based on her own personal beliefs, though, she ASSUMES (and y'all know what that means, dontcha?) unfriendly abductions are a fringe activity. That's a mighty big assumption, and it is the kind one makes when one desires to come to a preferred conclusion and is willing to gloss over evidence that runs counter to it.
Another thing that struck me was how she compared humans on the Earth to fleas on a dog. This is precisely the perspective expressed by negative aliens and their human minions, which indicates that her consciousness has been influenced by the entities she has been channeling through her patients. Hearing her make that comparison reminded me of another writer named Patricia Cori. In Chapter 2 of her book The Cosmos of Soul, Patricia offers a message from the "Sirian High Council":
"...Gaia's primary disease is rooted in the excessive over-population. Like a cancer, the population is multiplying at astronomical speed, killing off the other healthy cells... ...The AIDS virus and others now being prepared in your underground laboratories are simply population control technologies designed to reestablish equilibrium in the body count of the planet. If you can see beyond the horror of such widespread genocide, you may understand the bigger issue here. As man has altered the balance and the population has run amok, some huge catastrophe has had to occur to dramatically reduce your numbers, and this the governments of the world understand."
The whole "if you can just see beyond the whole 'genocide' thing, you'll see why you need to die" message really gave me a belly laugh! Much of the book sounded really good until I got to that part and saw the agenda behind it. I would argue that it is NOT the number of humans that is destroying the Earth; it is the nature of the sprawling, purposefully inefficient, consumeristic, greed-driven slavery system that is destroying it. And guess whose minions are behind the slavery system?
The dark ET/EDs dehumanize us and destroy our world with their exploitation systems, then blame us for the destruction and ask us to die. To them I say, "It's a clever trick, but it ain't happenin', space bitches. It is not 'man' who 'altered the balance'; it was the meddling of your own Cabal minions that unbalanced things." I'll write more on "overpopulation" and other unintended consequences of the Cabal's obsession with control and exploitation in another entry.
To get back to my point, though, the dim view of humanity expressed by Patricia and Dolores -- that we are a metastasizing cancer or blood-sucking fleas -- is characteristic of the thinking of our own "elites" and the ET/ED beings who pull their strings. While I don't think Patricia or Dolores are dark beings, they are certainly picking up strains of dark ideas from their undiscerning channeling efforts (and yes, channeling is exactly what Dolores is doing during her hypnosis sessions).
On page 248 of The Custodians, when Dolores begins to establish communication with the aforementioned alien, she is specifically told by her hypnotized patient that what is occurring is channeling...
Dolores: "Would he be willing to share some information with us?" Patient: "He wants to channel through me."
...And since the consciousnesses she channels offer consistent themes, express ideas that sound good, and can heal her patients' physical maladies, she has uncritically accepted everything they've told her. Speaking from my personal opinion, that just doesn't seem like a sound practice. And using one's patients as high-bandwidth Ouija boards seems a bit risky as well.
Does this mean that all the entities who come through during Dolores' sessions are bad guys? Not necessarily. I am careful to never discount ALL channeled material because if dark beings can use real or synthetic telepathy, good beings can too. I read all channeled material to which I'm led, but I don't uncritically accept anything it says. The environment in which we live absolutely requires constant discernment, and there is just no way around that.
As the physical manifestations in our world clearly show, there are dark beings about, and they have a plan for us. The low-level ones have been putting us in a very bad position so the high-level ones can show up and pose as heroes, and when they do, they'll be whispering sweet nothings and speaking 99% truth. They'll do this so you'll swallow the 1% lie that comes with it, and that lie is the poison pill that will really screw a person up. So in my thinking, it seems wise to sharpen my discernment, stand in my truth (even if others label me "negative" or "obstinate"), and learn to spit, not swallow (ladies, please teach your fellas how). In the end, those of the True Light who are fearless and unmoved by dark deception will be left standing.
And so it is.
[Update 11 April 2013]
Here is an interview which offers an alternative perspective on the entities that can come through during hypnosis channeling: Super Woo Radio Episode 9 MP3. It is an interview of Eve Lorgen by George Kavassilas which discusses the Alien Agenda and hypnotic regression. The whole interview is good, and it really gets rolling in the second hour.
[Update 26 June 2013]
Here is a blog written by another hypnotist who follows Dolores' methods. If you take a look through her various entries, you'll note how she transitions into flat-out channeling of an entity that poses as "God/Creator." The key difference between normal channeling and what she does is that she allows the entity to possess her hypnotized and suggestible patient instead of being possessed herself. Nice.
All this being said, the entities who speak through channelings and show up at rituals have been around for a long time and are known by many names. They are also known to be flatterers who appeal to one's ego, and who mislead and create mischief. Listen to them if you wish, but not with blind trust. They mix in a lot of fool's gold with the real nuggets, so sift well.
Love always....
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Date: September 20, 2016 at 11:15:54
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Interesting bloggy thing... when New Agers question New Agers... |
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Yeah that's interesting all right. I listened to one of her interviews last night. In it was stated she herself doesn't channel but her clients do. That's where she gets the info, she says. So one must filter heavy from any channeling. I do not listen to channeled stuff for the fact of it being colored by human beliefs and or other- astral beings who might have an agenda. I have not read her books, just an occasional listening to one of her interviews.
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