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Date: September 19, 2016 at 11:56:26
From: Karin in SE OR, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth

URL: Link


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riQdyr1hkuI&app=desktop


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Date: September 19, 2016 at 23:15:15
From: Raymond, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth


I met her at a New Age conference several years ago.
She autographed my books from her...:)

I wonder how much of the channeled information is 100
percent reliable and how much is influenced by our own
subconscious influences?

And I am still trying to meditate to reach the level of
communicating with my guides. I am jealous of those who
can......:(


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23757


Date: September 21, 2016 at 07:51:56
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Another...


Another good way to "break on through"... is water...
meditate in water, even if it's just filling a bucket and
putting your feet in it... water is a great connector...


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23743


Date: September 20, 2016 at 08:43:33
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth


As far as I know Dolores did not channel her stuff- what was "channeled" was from her clients info, ie as they were progressed or put under hypnosis, they were the ones channeling. I just watched a video where she is discussing that. Never read any of her books though.
So yeah, as her clients were channeling supposedly under influence of being what? not consciously speaking- who might have really given that info? And how accurate is that is the question.


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Date: September 21, 2016 at 07:46:05
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth


Yeah, that's what the article I posted goes into... I
have to agree with the perspective that it seems
dangerous... like experimenting with another persons life
and spiritual well being, inviting entities to come in to
another, no threat or risk to you but potentially for
those put into hypnosis by you... you never know what is
going to take hold...


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Date: September 21, 2016 at 09:45:09
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: /Rig


I have found that during my lifetime beginning in the 70's when I asked Creator to show me my past lives I began to get a series of dreams which has showed allot of it. And continues to this day. I don't think I could ever be hypnotized or allow another to try to do that to me. That is giving too much power of someone over me and I don't go for that.


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Date: September 21, 2016 at 11:27:32
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT)


(NT)


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Date: September 21, 2016 at 13:54:33
From: me, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) well


there is technology, U know
that is able to 'put u out'
without your consent
think on that or not


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Date: September 21, 2016 at 14:19:34
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) well


Not only put you out but kill you as well, or just cripple or torture you.


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Date: September 21, 2016 at 14:59:28
From: me, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Agreed... and or exactly...(NT) well


lol

cute


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23752


Date: September 20, 2016 at 22:23:08
From: Raymond, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth


+1

Yeah, you are right, she hypnotized people or otherwise
helped them meditate to a deep level to find those
revelations.

My psychic teacher did the same for me on a couple of
occasions but I had no results. I felt like Charlie
Brown and his Christmas Tree.


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23742


Date: September 20, 2016 at 08:41:25
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon: The Mayan Calendar, 2012 and 5D Earth


You should read my copy pasted post below...

As for "trying to meditate to reach the level of
communicating with my guides/jealous of those who
can"... jealousy and similar thoughts build
roadblocks, and I'm left with the impression that
you're trying to force it... just meditate, or better
yet don't... just be quiet and still, mentally,
Spiritually... and it will happen, or it wont...
depending on if they have anything to say, or not...

Some of my best moments of connection and
communication are when I'm working, physical labor,
yard/garden work is good... focus just enough to keep
working safely, so you don't hurt yourself, or the odd
pet that may be around "supervising"... and let the
rest of your mind filter itself to a quiet status...
and if something comes through pay attention, may be a
Guide, a God, an Ancestor... but may also be an
Unfriendly, so be ready with a shield... and a
Spiritual club, I tend to envisage medieval weapons,
but also a baseball bat works good on Enemies... just
sayin'... ;)


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Date: September 20, 2016 at 09:17:35
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon/Rig and Raymond


That's how it works for me Rig, while I am busy doing something. To me its rather like the zen mode - chop wood, carry water. or just the alpha state. Or in bed quite before sleep or just being quiet.
Hey Raymond, I replied to your dream you shared the other day. About the pizza and the flies- would like you to see it please and thanks.


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Date: September 20, 2016 at 23:46:52
From: Raymond, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dolores Cannon/Rig and Raymond


Thanks Pamela....


I appreciate the time you took to reply.


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23740


Date: September 19, 2016 at 14:09:22
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Interesting bloggy thing... when New Agers question New Agers...

URL: http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2013/06/dolores-cannon-and-hypnosis-channeling.html


Interesting perspective, I almost like this person...
takes Delores Cannon to practices and conclusions to
task... this is from "Ascensionwithearth.com",
reblogged from another site that comes up with "can't
find it" message... it's from 2013...

Somewhere up in Heaven, they're laughing. I was
pondering what I'd cover in my next entry and
considering doing a nice, positive spiritual piece,
then something happened: a new Dolores Cannon
interview appeared. Immediately, I knew that Spirit
had handed me my next assignment. I get to be the one
who offers the counterpoint to the kindly old grandma.
How do I land all the glamour jobs?!?

Just when I thought I could stop writing about
deceptions...

...they pull me back in!

It is necessary to contend with grammy, though,
because her form of channeling has produced a number
of books that paint a potentially misleading picture
of the afterlife, which is a subject I'll discuss in a
future entry. But for now, I'll dust off an entry I
wrote about Dolores back on February 24 for the
benefit of all the new readers. I've added a new
update at the bottom and might add another after I
listen to her most recent interview. Here goes....

I listened to a Dolores Cannon interview yesterday,
and while it was as uplifting and positive as her
interviews usually are, something just didn't sit
right. She said that in all her work over the years,
she'd never encountered anything negative, which
struck me as an oversimplification if not an outright
untruth. So I felt led to go to my bookcase and dust
off one of my many unread metaphysical books, The
Custodians, which was written by Dolores.


Upon opening the book, I immediately came upon a
relevant section. On page 259, she has a patient under
deep hypnosis and is using her as a communication
conduit to talk to an "alien." While discussing the
practical precautions his species takes when abducting
and returning humans, the alien goes on to say...

"Other beings sometimes do not return an Earth being.
But that being probably would eventually expire after
a short period of time. We prefer not to do that,
because we are here to help. Some beings view human
life in more animalistic terms, and treat a being as
you would a cow. You know, perhaps dissect it for
scientific reasons, just thinking of it as an
unintelligent animal. Usually never to eat or anything
of that nature, and they probably would wait until the
being did expire before any type of such experiments
would take place. But we honor the life here. We have
made a commitment, in the council, to help the beings
here, even though we are more advanced."

So the being with whom she is speaking specifically
tells her that there are not-so-nice aliens who abduct
humans, usually not to eat them, and who usually let
them die before dissecting them like lab rats. I was
surprised to see such information in one of her books
because in her interviews, she makes it sound like
there are no bad aliens, there is no Cabal, and all is
peaches and cream.

Knowing that the thesis of the book is that alien
abductions are misunderstood and are actually a
positive phenomenon, I went to the front of the book
to see if she addressed the dissonance. She did. On
page 10, she writes about the aliens' reasons for
abduction...

"I do not believe they are doing this for their
purposes, but for ours. Of course, we have seen that
there are several different types of entities
involved, and there could be some negative types doing
these things for their own gains. But I believe these
are in the minority, the renegades or mavericks of the
UFO groups."

In this passage, she says that there "could be" some
negative types doing self-serving abductions, but the
alien on page 259 specifically states that there are;
there is no "could be" about it. Based on her own
personal beliefs, though, she ASSUMES (and y'all know
what that means, dontcha?) unfriendly abductions are a
fringe activity. That's a mighty big assumption, and
it is the kind one makes when one desires to come to a
preferred conclusion and is willing to gloss over
evidence that runs counter to it.

Another thing that struck me was how she compared
humans on the Earth to fleas on a dog. This is
precisely the perspective expressed by negative aliens
and their human minions, which indicates that her
consciousness has been influenced by the entities she
has been channeling through her patients. Hearing her
make that comparison reminded me of another writer
named Patricia Cori. In Chapter 2 of her book The
Cosmos of Soul, Patricia offers a message from the
"Sirian High Council":

"...Gaia's primary disease is rooted in the excessive
over-population. Like a cancer, the population is
multiplying at astronomical speed, killing off the
other healthy cells...
...The AIDS virus and others now being prepared
in your underground laboratories are simply population
control technologies designed to reestablish
equilibrium in the body count of the planet.
If you can see beyond the horror of such
widespread genocide, you may understand the bigger
issue here. As man has altered the balance and the
population has run amok, some huge catastrophe has had
to occur to dramatically reduce your numbers, and this
the governments of the world understand."

The whole "if you can just see beyond the whole
'genocide' thing, you'll see why you need to die"
message really gave me a belly laugh! Much of the
book sounded really good until I got to that part and
saw the agenda behind it. I would argue that it is NOT
the number of humans that is destroying the Earth; it
is the nature of the sprawling, purposefully
inefficient, consumeristic, greed-driven slavery
system that is destroying it. And guess whose minions
are behind the slavery system?

The dark ET/EDs dehumanize us and destroy our world
with their exploitation systems, then blame us for the
destruction and ask us to die. To them I say, "It's a
clever trick, but it ain't happenin', space bitches.
It is not 'man' who 'altered the balance'; it was the
meddling of your own Cabal minions that unbalanced
things." I'll write more on "overpopulation" and other
unintended consequences of the Cabal's obsession with
control and exploitation in another entry.

To get back to my point, though, the dim view of
humanity expressed by Patricia and Dolores -- that we
are a metastasizing cancer or blood-sucking fleas --
is characteristic of the thinking of our own "elites"
and the ET/ED beings who pull their strings. While I
don't think Patricia or Dolores are dark beings, they
are certainly picking up strains of dark ideas from
their undiscerning channeling efforts (and yes,
channeling is exactly what Dolores is doing during her
hypnosis sessions).

On page 248 of The Custodians, when Dolores begins to
establish communication with the aforementioned alien,
she is specifically told by her hypnotized patient
that what is occurring is channeling...

Dolores: "Would he be willing to share some
information with us?"
Patient: "He wants to channel through me."

...And since the consciousnesses she channels offer
consistent themes, express ideas that sound good, and
can heal her patients' physical maladies, she has
uncritically accepted everything they've told her.
Speaking from my personal opinion, that just doesn't
seem like a sound practice. And using one's patients
as high-bandwidth Ouija boards seems a bit risky as
well.

Does this mean that all the entities who come through
during Dolores' sessions are bad guys? Not
necessarily. I am careful to never discount ALL
channeled material because if dark beings can use real
or synthetic telepathy, good beings can too. I read
all channeled material to which I'm led, but I don't
uncritically accept anything it says. The environment
in which we live absolutely requires constant
discernment, and there is just no way around that.

As the physical manifestations in our world clearly
show, there are dark beings about, and they have a
plan for us. The low-level ones have been putting us
in a very bad position so the high-level ones can show
up and pose as heroes, and when they do, they'll be
whispering sweet nothings and speaking 99% truth.
They'll do this so you'll swallow the 1% lie that
comes with it, and that lie is the poison pill that
will really screw a person up. So in my thinking, it
seems wise to sharpen my discernment, stand in my
truth (even if others label me "negative" or
"obstinate"), and learn to spit, not swallow (ladies,
please teach your fellas how). In the end, those of
the True Light who are fearless and unmoved by dark
deception will be left standing.

And so it is.

[Update 11 April 2013]

Here is an interview which offers an alternative
perspective on the entities that can come through
during hypnosis channeling: Super Woo Radio Episode 9
MP3. It is an interview of Eve Lorgen by George
Kavassilas which discusses the Alien Agenda and
hypnotic regression. The whole interview is good, and
it really gets rolling in the second hour.

[Update 26 June 2013]

Here is a blog written by another hypnotist who
follows Dolores' methods. If you take a look through
her various entries, you'll note how she transitions
into flat-out channeling of an entity that poses as
"God/Creator." The key difference between normal
channeling and what she does is that she allows the
entity to possess her hypnotized and suggestible
patient instead of being possessed herself. Nice.

All this being said, the entities who speak through
channelings and show up at rituals have been around
for a long time and are known by many names. They are
also known to be flatterers who appeal to one's ego,
and who mislead and create mischief. Listen to them if
you wish, but not with blind trust. They mix in a lot
of fool's gold with the real nuggets, so sift well.

Love always....


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Date: September 20, 2016 at 11:15:54
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Interesting bloggy thing... when New Agers question New Agers...


Yeah that's interesting all right. I listened to one of her interviews last night. In it was stated she herself doesn't channel but her clients do. That's where she gets the info, she says. So one must filter heavy from any channeling. I do not listen to channeled stuff for the fact of it being colored by human beliefs and or other- astral beings who might have an agenda. I have not read her books, just an occasional listening to one of her interviews.


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