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Date: May 02, 2016 at 11:24:00
From: snodrop, [DNS_Address]
Subject: So here's a question to ponder |
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I was thinking about this the other day and I thought
perhaps this may be worthy of a discussion.
It's about Caesarean sections and do they play a role
in the life path of that child. I'm not talking about
c-sections that are done because the mother or the
child is in distress and medical intervention is an
absolute must. I'm talking about c-sections that are
planned for convenience sake and interrupting nature's
way.
Do you think they are missing out on a path that may
or may not have been predestined for them?
We have an expression in Dutch, that probably has
an equivalent in English, that basically says "he/she
has spent all their lives trying to catch up and
they'll end up late for their own funeral".
Perhaps it's more of a philosophical than a spiritual
question...what say you?
(hugs)
snodrop
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Date: May 06, 2016 at 20:05:05
From: Jeannie., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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My oldest was a normal delivery.... one month overdue, weighing in at 10
lbs, and I'm a lightweight.
I really, really didn't want him to be born under this particular
Astrological sign, however he had his own agenda!
Life is indeed a mystery.
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 11:14:07
From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
URL: http://www.cesareanvoices.com/pppj.html |
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Surprising I found an article that kicks this topic
around if one cares to read link
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 13:28:49
From: snodrop, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Thanks Sue:) Found the article interesting. I
remember when I was pregnant, I was very determined to
have as much of a gentle birth as possible...probably
because I was a very easy going person and hoped that
my baby would be too and to start that off...the birth
needed to be non fussy and as non invasive as
possible.
I played classical music to my belly throughout the
pregnancy and wanted a water birth. I discussed this
with my doctor who was all gung ho about it and
totally into doing it....we lived on an island so
although they had birthing pools on the mainland...my
doctor ordered one to be delivered to the hospital
which arrived 2 days after my son was born lol. He
even went "shopping" for an appropriate bathing suit
himself lolol. (The birthing pools there were quite
large and the doctors themselves went into the pool
also...big enough for the dads to be in there as
well.)
It was decided that the classical music I had been
playing would also be played during the birthing
process and the lights would be subdued. Of course
my little guy decided to come early and my doc was
out of town after seeing me the day before, assuring
me we still had about a week to go or so.
So a doctor I didn't know delivered him, but I did
manage to impress upon him that the music needed
to be playing and the lights dimmed. Really easy
birth for my son....and a very easy going baby and
to this day has a love for classical music.
I often wonder how it would have been had there been
a scheduled c-section because of convenience with
harsh lights and really not being in control and
sharing that experience with him in the way that I
did. I can imagine it must be quite shocking to
a baby which is what the article also pointed out.
(hugs)
snodrop
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 12:23:55
From: Jeannie., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Very interesting.... who knew there was so much drama involved in both
types of birth choices.
Difficult to know whether or not this is more medical "certainties" people
love to write articles.
Sometimes another "expert' comes along and challenges their theories,
Mothers just keep loving their babies, and ignore the hype.
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Date: May 03, 2016 at 21:36:46
From: Jim W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Planned for convenience sucks.
Natural is best
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Date: May 02, 2016 at 11:49:14
From: Jeannie., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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I don't know about the philosophical or spiritual aspect of Caesarean
births, however supposedly the future health of the child is affected;
Seems that many of these kid are asthmatic as a results of not allowing
nature to push the fluids out of their lungs, via the natural voyage
through the birth canal.
I have no personal proof of this, it's from a medical article that stuck in
my mind.
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 10:52:34
From: Candace/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: both my children born this way |
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Mine was not convenience..small pelvis front to back
making rotation of head and body nearly impossible.
Also with first child double footling breech. she used
to kick my bladder because of that and I had to keep
rags or mops nearby..
But no asthma in either one. I did attempt the natural
birth despite evidence that it probably would not go
and when she was delivered by C section.. she had a lot
of black mecomium in her respiratory track from the
stress of the attempted labor process.
She has never had an adverse effects from that.
As our planet advances we will stop birthing thru the
birth canal pretty much as there will be technology to
open and close incisions that do not require a knife
and stitches. One thing that will encourage that is
our babies will have larger heads. It is not
necessarily good to remodel a big head thru the birth
canal.. many of you had babies with heads reshaped
which is not necessarily ideal.
My son we just went ahead and did the c section but
waited until natural contractions had started.. letting
nature determine.
As you can see.. when we have the technique above to
open and close a wound without a knife and sutures it
will change the entire nature of surgery and also the
same technology that puts a surgical wound back
together will be available for healing injuries too.
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Date: May 02, 2016 at 12:45:20
From: Nen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Medically speaking it isn't just the fluid being pushed
from the lungs.
When the baby is born vaginally s/he gets their first
and much needed bacteria colonization from the birth
canal.
Those born C-section: Their first bacteria exposure
(and only bacteria exposure) are those in the general
air in the hospital, which are typically bad bacteria.
Not only are these the surface bacteria for the eyes,
mucous membranes, etc, but also the gut bacteria.
It's one of the reasons some people have started the
practice of taking a swab of vaginal bacteria and
wiping it down the face of the C-section baby.
Don't know if you can access this link as it's from a
university machine and may be one of the uni's
subscriptions:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2075768-boost-c-
section-babies-by-giving-them-vaginal-bacteria/
NY Times blog:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/post-cesarean-
bacteria-transfer-could-change-health-for-life-study-
shows/?_r=0
NPR:
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-
shots/2016/02/01/464905786/researchers-test-microbe-
wipe-to-promote-babies-health-after-c-sections
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Date: May 02, 2016 at 11:36:22
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Perhaps there's an bonding issue, but not necessarily even that...at any rate I feel in our life times lessons we are at some time to experience everything so we have "understanding" before we reach heaven.
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Date: May 02, 2016 at 20:43:59
From: Terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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It is said that the past present and cute is ALL ONE ; and that our
TIME FRAMES are just an illusion IF THAT IS TRUE --then
NOTHING THAT HAPPENS AT BIRTH --Vaginal or C section can
have Any effect on the child that isn't already ordained!!
May be that a child Who I is born early and suffers health problems
is due to Karma??? Or an agreement before birth to experience that
condition ??? LOve and Light terra
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Date: May 10, 2016 at 13:54:43
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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I think that is true, but they claim also that everyone we know...we had an relationaship with of some kind in the past also..neighbor, relative, friend, lover, etc....and of course this time around they help us to "move on" in some way and resolve our karma. Some of them are plain jesus people also, laying down their lives to help us make ours. I'm pretty sure one of my son's best friends was an son to me previously....and I have an pictures of him back then also...in an history book.
Terra...my old neighbors are running an church nearby now...and in their ladies group..and young women's also, they have gotten together and are taking pillowcases and adding bands of cloth at the bottom of
them and elastic waistbands for kids over in Africa.
thrift store pillowcases. One I was shown had the old time sunflower print along the hem...and they inserted an tiny blue gigham check along the bottom of them and an yellow band above the flowers and added white lace across it..and an two pockets on each side with an sunflower...they really looked nice and how
marvelous to find an new craft that can help the world
over...she said they didn't make the tops, because most of them wear t-shirts or halter tops as it was.
For kids they are so lightweight I would imagine the postage isn't much also, and all were perma press fabric that doesn't need ironed also.
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Date: May 02, 2016 at 22:10:02
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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I'm with you Terra on this one believing we choose our birth time and
death times prior to birth. My spiritual views combined with Astrology
have borne this out many times in my life. Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 03, 2016 at 10:00:38
From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Lots of thoughts here ranging from medical to other.
So for me the question still remains is there still
the choice if the child was an elected c-section? Or
is time just a fluid thing that doesn't really matter.
In that case I would think astrology would not matter
either. I know the ancients were very much into the
heavens and the time telling.
I lean toward having the child determine its birth
date and that it does matter. My first was a scheduled
c but I went into fast labor a few days early and it
was obvious to me my son was having none of that
scheduled stuff.
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 11:45:03
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
URL: Sound's of the Planets |
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Sue,
The Astrology of your child's birth sets the LIFE into motion. It's not 'just
the ancients' for whom Astrology is important...it's the entire Universe
that runs on it! At the moment of birth the position of each planet and
star overhead the at the Time and Location of birth is influencing THAT
CHILD for his/her time on this planet.
It's what we are not told about Astrology that matters; it's a time capsule
of that Soul's Path since it was created...and that is not just this life but all
of them! It shows what planets this child has dwelled upon, what they
have done, what they learned and what they could achieve. Astrology has
been belittled on purpose to drive people away from the truth of how
incredible Humans are. Astrology should be a major part of our lives as it
is in India and --coincidentally with "The Elite" who know and use this
important information to stay wealthy & in power! But whether you believe
in Astrology or not doesn't matter or change it's effects upon your life.
Each and every day, year and season of our lives are affected by the
Heavens. It's the frequency from each planet that broadcasts to Earth and
all over the Universe. Listen at the link :) 'We all Vibrate with this sound!'
Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 11:07:55
From: Candace/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: NO on this one Sue |
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the natural life forces set life into action .
Astrology is not real. I KNOW THIS. It has no merit
except on this world which "beleives" in it some of us
choose our birth based on numerology or astrology for
the acceptances of such but none of it has any merit at
all.
The Human MIND is above all of that. I chose the month
of August.. the roar of a leo/lion for my birth and so
did Jesus in fact. My names given and birth dates etc
are full of 11 and 22 master numbers but it means
NOTHING... otherwise. Except the expectation.
the astrology of cycles . like the 12 periods we have..
such as the approaching age of aquarious are ficticious
ways to divide TIME.
Our 7 days a week are ficticious also. We could just as
well us any number that worked with 365 days and ditto
our months.
Lunar cycle is real and meaningful only in that more
quakes happen usually and things of that sort.
I believed my whole life from teaching was was given
that the moon was on a 28 day cycle. only perhaps 10
years ago I discovered the full moon was NOT on
Wednesdays for example... when I was looking over my
calendar that had full moons marked on it.
We accept what we are taught sometimes when the reality
is something different as in the above moon thing.
the position of planets and stars overhead influence
nothing except a lot of old wives tales beloved because
the nature of cosmic cycles and god are not understood
on this planet.
Nature uses certain number sequences. And in the
celestial planets 12 is used more than 10 in numeric
systems. We have some evidence of this being known in
Trigonometry and the 360 degrees circles we have chosen
to mark them up into.
People determind where they go. Genetic stuff has a
determination on mind. MIND RULES ALWAYS but there are
cosmic cycles based on ORBITS OF BODIES etc.
We are in 3 major cosmic cycles right now which we
cover and 3 more minor or less important ones. That is
why this is time for ascension in fact.. those sorts of
time keeping which do exist again due to orbits in
general.
The universe runs on astronomy NOT astrology.
Astrology on this world or any other has nothing do
with the soul at all. do you not realizes souls
incarnate in a huge variety of places and thus there
cannot be such over control.
Spend you time growing your spirit and give up the
astrology would be my suggestion because you cannot
take that false belief system into your eternity at
all. I serves no purpose. It will dissolve from you at
your physical death because it is not truth. You
can't even use it in the astral realms between lives.
I AM THAT I AM.
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Date: May 10, 2016 at 14:20:19
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NO on this one Sue |
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I think the cosmos is ran orderly by cycles, but we also have freewill choices also. Not to much dofferent then what the Native Americans believe in their spiral of time also. ..from your born, ot I tyou eventually go
also...it's an rebirth cycle to them.
Mind of I ask you how your determined that Jesus was born in August...or where you read it at?....I was prviliedged to watch the same star last summer as the
one the wisemen followed at his birth...but I don't think he was born then. When the "spring lambs" are born they claim...October. The Libra..balances out all
things supposedly. Like the 8 turned on it's side...and number of infinity..left/right and there's the in-between that balances both sides out and moves things along as we learn soul growth lessons. I used the bad astrology cycle I was just through to get rid of excessive weight. Indeed there are charltans in any field...astrology included...but you always have freewill choices and it's by what you do with ..it that
someday you'll be judged...and how your learning process will come out of that also. Mr. Buval(?)...writes books...did an thing on when the Leo the Lion (spynix) lays down with the Lamb over in Egypt... and what may happen then also....again using astrology and the positions of the stars. They claim the bible has number in it also for everyone. Our cosmos is one that is mathematical. Rather it is or not makes an big difference on one's interpretations of things. If you don't believe that 1 plus one equals 3...then you haven't taken algebra in school....cause it took four blackboards to prove it...but it was done...it was correct mathematically also.
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 12:09:25
From: Jim W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NO on the Astral Plane, Candace |
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The Astral Plane is a dangerous place to contact.
Read what Saint Germain said about this.
Home of the tricksters and game players.
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 12:23:48
From: Sue/Seattle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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I'm certainly not disagreeing. Thats why I said I
think it does matter when they are born. Best to let
them choose if at all possible.
Still not sure if we are at the meat of the question
posed. If you go with an elected C section for
convenience does that change the child at all from
their path? Deals with pre-determination, the age old
debate.
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 13:09:37
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Sue,
The answer is NO. How you are born doesn't change what the child came
here too do and this is what I was saying regarding Astrology. It is used
by the Life Planners before any Soul incarnates on Earth as to what needs
to be accomplished for this Soul, their parents, friends, family and down
to each person that will play a vital role in that Soul's lifetime.
It is Divine Planning...there ARE NO MISTAKES IN LIFE OR DEATH. It is
literally much bigger than we can even imagine or comprehend. Our lives
are pre-planned as to the 'events'...now how we deal with these events are
Free Will. For more information on what happens between lifetimes please
read "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton PhD.
How do you know that there isn't something with the C-section that will
set the path for both mother and child that was meant to be this way?
This is the Big Picture. Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 18:24:07
From: Bev/Van Isle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: very well said Jody! |
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good books by Newton also! As is "Life Between Life" by
Joel Whitten and Joe Fisher :) All these books explain
how soul agreements are made among groups of
people(souls)
Sue gave an example she had a scheduled C-section but
went into labour early..exactly! The child was born at
the time, date and place which was predetermined.
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 20:33:38
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: very well said Jody! |
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Thanks Bev--wow it's good to see you here! Thanks for mentioning the
"Life Between Life" book --I haven't read that one yet! Yes it's so weird I've
been reading up on Soul agreements lately too so this thread was great
timing :)
Yes I've seen more babies 'avoiding' their C-section dates! My friend had a
C-section appointment when we lived way out in the boonies on the same
street. Her baby decided NOW was good and went into a fast labor for a
1st baby. Our area had begun to flood after torrential rains and their car
just got through the only road to the hospital before they closed it off.
That baby knew exactly what it was doing!
Maybe I didn't say this clearly in this thread before so I'll say it now. The
baby is waiting for the right Astrology chart for this lifetime. Usually a
planet is about to move and the birth will happen just hours after that
planet changes signs or goes Direct in motion from a Retrograde motion.
Scheduling a C-section doesn't account for this, which is why half of all
C-scheduled babies come earlier! Other babies will prolong their labor 2-
3 days to get that Moon or Planet sign to align with one of the parent's
signs, which can lead to a C-section which is okay by then for the baby!
It all comes down to Timing...which is everything. You only get one shot
for a birth and it's got to be RIGHT!
Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 13:48:42
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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New Ager hooey perversion of what Astrology is...
period...
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 14:48:34
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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LOL!!! Just the opposite RIG, it's the OLDEST functioning system there is.
Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 14:54:36
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Astrology is one of the oldest, on that there is no
doubt, although there are other systems that are
older... it's all the other nonsense you tacked onto it
that is New Ager perversions...
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 15:21:14
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Apparently you missed what I said. Yes Astrology is old, but I was referring
to the Universe and how it functions, Astrology is but one component of
this system. ~Jody
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 17:18:20
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Oh no, I didn't miss what you said... I was referring
to your, "the Universe and how it functions"...
Life Planners...
as what needs to be accomplished...
Divine planning...
there are no mistakes in life or death...
our lives are pre planned as to events...
for more information on what happens between lifetimes
please read blah blah blah...
And yet prior to all this defining, you preface it
with "it is literally much bigger than we can even
imagine or comprehend"... but here, read this self
help book by some guy with a "phd" attached to his
name...
That's the New Ager hooey I was referring to...
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 20:39:06
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Not everyone will understand things in life and some may need many lives
to arrive at what they are here to do. I'm not judging you....
Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 06:11:17
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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That's true, and in place of understanding many will be
beguiled by a silver tongue pushing pretty words,
thoughts and ideas, and untruths, in their yearning for
understanding and Truth... instead of doing the work for
themselves and learning... and I am judging you... ;)
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 12:36:43
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Well you're in error. I've done the work. Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 06, 2016 at 12:46:50
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Well, you be sure to tell a loved one if they get cancer
that they sat before the Council of Elders and asked for
this experience before being born into this life... I'm
sure it'll go over well... ;)
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Date: May 09, 2016 at 20:13:35
From: April/NC, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Rig, you would be surprised. Read, "Hello from Heaven" there are
tons of short stories and several where parents have lost their
children and they had dreams and their kids told them it was part
of the plan and that one day they would understand and see the
bigger picture. That book was pivotal in my growth after losing my
husband and then having to tell our boys. I needed answers and
my soul sought and found this to be true; this was planned before
we got here.
I should have known, I had so many things happen before he
passed. I just felt I was going to lose someone.
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Date: May 10, 2016 at 12:25:00
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Yes I agree with Jody and April- have read parts of the stories from the different books coming out or have already come out- stories by children who remembered where they came from and who they were before this time.
Many books and accounts coming out and has nothing to do with new age stuff.
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Date: May 10, 2016 at 10:24:40
From: gizmo1978, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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Yes yes yes! We choose our entrances and our exits and yes we do choose cancer for experiences and soul growth. It is not new age hooey as some like to state. And it took an intense spiritual awakening for me to discover this from Spirit. It is hard for those on the earth plane to comprehend.
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Date: May 06, 2016 at 16:23:45
From: Bev/Van Isle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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wouldn't that be a little too easy RIG?
One has to have had an intense spiritual awakening to
really grasp that horrible events that happen on the
earth plane aren't understood by the vast majority of
human beings.
Frankly, I'm surprised you can't understand it
considering you post on this board so frequently. That's
not a negative judgement, just an observation. Each is
on their own path. I'm on the same as Jody ;)
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Date: May 06, 2016 at 16:52:44
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So here's a question to ponder |
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message removed...you're gonna be bummed when you're gone...lol
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 13:35:34
From: Jim W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, Jody |
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If that is true, the mother has no free will.
She wants to go on a vacation so she plans the C-section
based on her itinerary and what happens re the chart is
out of her control.
And....the BABY has no free will in this case.
Universal law: "To change one thing is to change
everything"
You can't have it both ways.
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 15:18:14
From: Jody/Concord,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, Jody |
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Hi James,
All have Free Will and nothing is negated in this system. There are
parameters and what 'we' do within those parameters is Free Will. Yes
there are effects to others and I can only imagine there are Plan B,C, ect.
woven into these lifetimes we all are in..."Contingency Plans"?!
The book I recommended for Sue; "The Journey of Souls" by Michael
Newton PhD consists of over 3,000 validated hypnosis cases of 'life
between lives' which means HEAVEN. It's a place we all return to when we
die, regardless. These patients didn't know each other yet they all said the
same thing about how a Soul is prepared for Reincarnation, choosing
parents and a life that would give that Soul the most Soul growth. They
also tell of seeing Counsel of Elders, Guides and Masters that help a Soul
through many lifetimes and others who strictly prepare a Soul for the next
incarnation they decide to take. The Soul is an active participant in the
planning of their next life with these Guides. None of this is an accident
James, and neither are WE, no matter what our circumstances of birth.
As for 'both ways'.... we are talking about Heaven/God/Creator not planet
Earth where everything is Polarized; black vs white, good vs bad ect. so
that thinking is in error. Why would you believe God is just like you?
Trust me, Heaven is NOT Earth!
Blessings, Jody
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 18:27:30
From: Bev/Van Isle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, /Jim |
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Jim, curious as to why you may not think the 'baby'
didn't have a say in it?
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 21:43:58
From: Jim W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, Hi Bev |
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Great to have you aboard. It has been a long long time.
Well in natural birth, the baby can slow things down and
speed things up.
In a planned C-section. the baby is out of the loop.
And, I could be wrong. I am not an astrologer.
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 18:47:03
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, /Jim |
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Maybe the "Universe" is just simpler than the overly
convoluted hooey the New Agers push out by the bucket
load...
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 19:54:35
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, /Jim |
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or perhaps you are just too "simple" to grok it...lol
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 06:06:09
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, /Jim |
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Yeah, keep telling yourself that... quick Bopp, go post
some Jerkyjeff to make yourself feel important in the
grander scheme of the Universe... ;)
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Date: May 05, 2016 at 10:02:56
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, /Jim |
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lol...theory confirmed...
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Date: May 06, 2016 at 12:29:35
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Here is another question to ponder, /Jim |
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LOL... whatever you say, Gradeschool... ;)
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Date: May 04, 2016 at 21:41:07
From: Jim W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bopp you brought back fond memories |
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I hadn't heard the word "grok" for ages.
One of my favorite books.
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Date: May 14, 2016 at 05:10:46
From: Prevail, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I have always wondered about this too |
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I was a C section baby so I have often wondered if I was born when I wanted to be born. Seems to me like scheduled C sections are interfering.
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