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Date: March 22, 2016 at 11:15:33
From: Karin in SE OR, [DNS_Address]
Subject: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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Grandmothers Speak ·
Holding all in the Net of Light...
“It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. Do this each day. Do it when you’re by yourself and do it in groups, with others. The terrorists are bringing to the surface a great evil; bringing up great confusion. What is taking place now requires strong medicine and ho’oponopono is strong medicine. In your mind and heart, over and over again repeat—“I am sorry. Please forgive me. I love you. Thank you.” This forgiveness work will release you from negativity. It will clear your own feelings of anger and helplessness and will help those who are caught in the trap of violence and rage.
“Because all life is linked by the Net of Light or Cosmic Web, each time you love and forgive yourself, you automatically love and forgive others. Because everything is connected, everything benefits. So don’t waste another minute condemning or trying to understand the mad acts taking place on earth. Instead, perform this seemingly simple act.
“Free yourself and all beings by repeating with feeling:
I’m sorry. Please forgive me. I love you. Thank you.”
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Date: March 24, 2016 at 10:40:54
From: Candace/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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the terrorist? You mean the thugs who created Operation Gladio B to change their focus on commies and put it on Islam.. ok. NOPE.
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Date: March 24, 2016 at 10:05:12
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Thank you, Love you, forgive me, I'm sorry you want to kill me... |
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As an internal individual exercise in clearing energies, fine, indicative of a weak spirit, but fine... when you link it to "for the terrorists", it becomes complete cow feces...
Doing this "for" the terrorists... no... you're not going to counter anything the "terrorists", or more importantly anyone else who is truly working dark energies to the harm of "innocents"... fortify your Spirit and take action directly... otherwise, this is just more New Ager we can't do anything about it, so this exercise will make you feel "empowered"... but that's all it does, makes FEEL like you're doing something, when you're really not...
As for light/positive vs. dark/negative, when are these New Ager feely good types going to realize there's nothing wrong with feeling the complete range of human spiritual emotions?... if you shrink from what is commonly viewed as "negative" or "dark", and desperately cling to "positive" or "light", yet also espouse "balance", you will NEVER understand or KNOW true Balance... for that matter, not everything "light" is positive and the same for the other "side" of the coin, not everything "dark" is negative...
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Date: March 24, 2016 at 10:43:11
From: Candace/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Thank you, Love you, forgive me, I'm sorry you want to kill me... |
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thank you for your clear expression RIG. :) WELL SAID Its ime for people to deposit the new age crap in the dumpster and live in the REAL.
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Date: April 03, 2016 at 09:11:57
From: Nen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Thank you, Love you, forgive me, I'm sorry you want to kill me... |
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In other words, a New Age translation of everything Jesus strived for.
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Date: March 26, 2016 at 21:42:27
From: Shirley/PA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Thank you, Love you, forgive me, I'm sorry you want to kill me... |
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmvQqg_EpQ |
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It's really not New Agey stuff.
In fact, it's very, very Ancient Knowledge.
I understand though both your comments and Rig's.
Where you are I was once, too.
Then I began to ask what is REAL?
Then I learned that I could not get to REAL until I quieted MySelf.
So I offer you this to do that:
Deep peace of the running wave to you. Deep peace of the flowing air to you. Deep peace of the quiet earth to you. Deep peace of the shining stars to you. Deep peace of the infinite peace to you. gaelic blessing
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Date: March 27, 2016 at 10:00:40
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's another New Age corruption of the Ancients... |
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Like damn near everything the New Age Cult Movement has to offer... "It's really not New Agey stuff", and that's what the New Age likes to hide behind...
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Date: April 05, 2016 at 13:01:31
From: April/NC, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It's another New Age corruption of the Ancients... |
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Oh great, I see nothing here has changed, lol...
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Date: April 06, 2016 at 19:29:30
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: High there, April... |
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I think you poked your head in here at just the right time... I've gone a fair while without commenting too much in here... this board is mostly devoid of the Truly Spiritual... more often than not, it's pure fantasy, pseudo intellectual jerky material, or the typical New Age corruption of something Truly Spiritual...
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Date: April 06, 2016 at 22:54:40
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: High there, April... |
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certainly when you post there is da evoidity of spirituality...
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Date: March 27, 2016 at 09:23:20
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: yes Hawaiian |
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I agree, and knew this when I posted about it some years ago- it is ancient Hawaiian. Though many people now have used this and adapted it in their own meditations.
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Date: March 26, 2016 at 21:44:44
From: Shirley/PA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: What is Real? (Plato's Allegory of the Cave)(NT) |
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVDaSgyi3xE |
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Date: March 23, 2016 at 12:42:24
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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The last time I tried that and posted here, I got lambasted for it.
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Date: March 24, 2016 at 22:05:50
From: anne redwood city, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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I tried to put into words why I think this prayer is so important.
As I recall the story of the man who made ho’oponopono well known, he was a shrink who worked with violent mentally ill people confined to the building in which he worked. No one before him had generated any healing in the residents, nor had any hope it could happen, but by doing this practice by himself for each one in his office every day, one by one they all healed and were released. So the first reason I think the prayer is worth doing is that it already has a history of doing the impossible.
The words of the prayer seem to go beyond our usual linear meanings of language. Gary Eberle in his book, Dangerous Words: Talking about God in an Age of Fundamentalism, says we have a problem because of the reductionist way we use language about ultimate matters; that literalism can distort scriptural language whose referent (God/Goddess) can’t ever be contained in words; and that by thinking with a reductionist version of the core religious ideas, the terrorists and the reductionists are both living by the same misplaced God-language. Prayer, as a link between the self and ultimate reality isn’t Newtonian, it is holographic and partakes in the holy mystery beyond language. The paradoxical aspects of the words of ho’oponopono confuse me at a literal level, but it does something to me when I pray it. I can feel it changing me for the better. Some years ago I got tired of praying in words and decided to just sit in a church I liked and ask the Divine to pray me. Although I had no conscious idea of what was changing, I could feel God changing me. That’s what happened when I said the ho’oponopono prayer.
We’re all inescapably part of the hologram, and maybe when we pray it with the intention of healing others, it gives to the one who prays it a direct experience of how it heals, which might also function as the beginning of an empathy and a hope for the other, as well as an experience for the pray-er that it actually heals people. My experience with it was that it heals inclusively, incrementally, and sequentially—that it keeps on clearing and healing. If nothing else, the experience suggested to me that in praying for the other, I was receiving the healing too.
By asking for forgiveness both for myself and the other, and affirming my love for myself and the other--not for what the other does, but who this other is who shares the quality of being human with me--at least I won’t be attracting punitive attacks by someone else in response to any of my unconscious personal and/or collective guilt feelings. And what else have we got? Suppose the terrorist approaches and we have no physical defense? In that prayerful state of mind, who knows what angels may attend you and the other? Maybe Love is asking in this prayer to be made primary in our own consciousness, even if ultimate physical protection is not assured.
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Date: April 05, 2016 at 16:16:30
From: SoCalCarol, [DNS_Address]
Subject: YES -It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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beautiful words Anne. Thank you. Never listen to the naysayers on this site. The good that comes from it - is really good.
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Date: March 26, 2016 at 21:59:48
From: Shirley/PA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
URL: http://www.holistic-mindbody-healing.com/ho_oponopono.html |
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Very nicely said, anne.
Ultimately it is about quieting the little mind so that the Divine Mind can be seen and See.
"Ho'oponopono is a way to forgive and that is true. But the practice goes beyond forgiveness. It helps you clean your subconscious mind so you can better see through the eyes of the Divine within you."
More about Dr. Hew Len's story at link, too.
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Date: March 27, 2016 at 19:33:37
From: anne redwood city, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono --Shirley |
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Thanks, Shirley. I just read your reference and I also very much like what you said about it clearing the small mind so that we can perceive through the Divine Mind.
The article says ho'oponopono is based on doing two things: being responsible and clearing yourself so that you don't create more of the problem externally in reaction patterns.
I have never felt that "you create your own reality" was the whole story, nor that it could be. It seems to me that we are a paradox and a mystery--individual yet part of the hologram so that each of us includes both what we are and what we are not in all dimensions of time. Maybe that's what lets us help not only ourselves but others.
It looks to me like the prayer clears back and forth in time as well as between self and others. It seems to me a lot like a Bodhisattva vow in action, the idea that even if we wanted to, we "couldn't go to Heaven alone."
I plan to keep doing it to see what happens, including clearing ancestral links.
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Date: March 28, 2016 at 06:08:30
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono --Shirley |
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"clearing Ancestral links"?... sounds like removing your soul...
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 06:33:55
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So it boils down to that lame Christian... |
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Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner garbage... and again back to the "feeling" empowered bit of self deception...
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 03:30:27
From: granny, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
URL: http://www.ancienthuna.com/ho-oponopono.htm |
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very eloquent Anne: )and well said...I believe so much in the power of prayer and that ability to change people places and things. There are many scientific studies done about prayer and the folks being prayed for were healthier happier etc. than the ones who weren't. We are all connected and since God is omniscience, omnipotent, omnipresent those words can change the people in this world. Starting with us and we can make a difference for other people.
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 06:28:24
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oops... more terrorist activity today in Belgium... |
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So much for HoOmniOmni prayer...
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Date: March 23, 2016 at 21:10:37
From: anne redwood city, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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So does anybody have a better plan? :-) I've been doing it today and it's a win-win, helps everyone.
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 08:51:29
From: Candace/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: No rote stuff for me |
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I don't say rote prayers and rote meditations. I make up my original communication with those above. You are to grown and have your feelings. Jesus taught one rote prayer and its corrupted and the purpose was because people were so mind controlled they couldn't make up their own communications.
You have minds beloveds.. original minds which can think up original stuff. Use them for original stuff. Some of the prayers and meditations out there are in fact so scripted they are created by dark side and actually thus assist the dark plans.
do thy own thing based on thy own searchings and knowing. Christians as an example are being encouraged to pray for "god's chosen" people and the country of Israel. They are thus supporting the dark side plans.
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Date: March 24, 2016 at 12:20:17
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Did it stop a terrorist attack?... (NT) |
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Date: March 23, 2016 at 22:17:17
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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Please share here how it has helped today. WE need to have testimonials on it. Like I wrote, last time I posted that here couple years ago, I was torn to shreds by some here. I think it does have its merits tho. And anything to help within the spiritual is worth doing.
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 22:25:04
From: Mojo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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You pray for terrorist, but you hate the Jews? Or is it just the "fake" Jews you hate? Sounds hypocritical to me.
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 22:56:11
From: Pam aka pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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& what is more what i proposed couple years ago did not call for the terroists but all mankind.
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Date: March 25, 2016 at 22:50:37
From: Pam aka pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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What are you talking about Sher? I don't hate Jews. Much of my family are Jewish/Israel.
My reply to Anne was to agree w/ her if that is what helps. I asked her to give testimony how this is helping or didn't you read the thread?
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Date: March 24, 2016 at 08:34:08
From: Karin in SE OR, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It’s time to regularly practice ho’oponopono for the terrorists. |
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it clears out old negative energies
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Date: March 26, 2016 at 21:03:40
From: Shirley/PA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re:youtube: Hooponopono |
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac5SGwRPv0o |
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This is the version that I use the most.
Namaste.
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Date: March 28, 2016 at 08:53:50
From: Karin in SE OR, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Re:youtube: Hooponopono |
URL: Link |
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thank you. This is how i learnt about it
http://www.presentlove.com/hooponopono/
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Date: March 28, 2016 at 23:21:36
From: Shirley/PA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Re:youtube: Hooponopono |
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Thank you.
Information there that I didn't know.
BTW I've used Hooponopono and it does cause change.
It works, it really does.
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Date: March 29, 2016 at 08:41:42
From: Karin in SE OR, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Re:youtube: Hooponopono |
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