Skywatchers

[ Skywatchers ] [ Main Menu ]


  


48525


Date: November 15, 2024 at 10:36:11
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: NASA and Roscosmos disagree on cause and severity of ISS air leak

URL: https://spacenews.com/nasa-and-roscosmos-disagree-on-cause-and-severity-of-iss-air-leak/


NASA and Roscosmos disagree on cause and severity of ISS air leak
Jeff Foust
November 13, 2024

WASHINGTON — NASA and Roscosmos continue to disagree on the cause and
severity of an air leak in the Russian segment of the International Space Station,
one that NASA worries could lead to a “catastrophic failure” of part of a Russian
module.

That disagreement was brought to light during a brief meeting of NASA’s ISS
Advisory Committee Nov. 13, which recounted a meeting of that committee with
its Roscosmos counterpart in Moscow in September to discuss issues with the
station.

The major concern has been a small but persistent leak in a vestibule of the
Zvezda service module called PrK that separates a docking port from the rest of
the module. That leak has existed for several years, and station crews have dealt
with the leak by sealing off PrK from the rest of the station when they do not need
access to Progress cargo spacecraft docked to the port.

“Although the teams continue to investigate the causal factors for the crack
initiation and growth, the U.S. and Russian technical teams don’t have a common
understanding of what the likely root cause is or the severity of the
consequences of these leaks,” said Bob Cabana, a former NASA astronaut and
associate administrator who now chairs the committee.

He said Russian engineers believe the cracks are likely caused by “high cyclic
fatigue” from micro-vibrations. NASA, by contrast, believes several factors are at
play, including pressure and mechanical stress, residual stress, material
properties of the module and environmental exposure.

In September, a report by NASA’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) said “both
agencies have narrowed their focus to internal and external welds” as a cause of
the leaks, which have not been seen elsewhere in the station.

At a Sept. 27 briefing, NASA officials downplayed the concerns about the leaks,
which were first detected in 2019 but earlier this year had grown to their highest
rates seen to date, a loss of 1.7 kilograms of air per day, the OIG report stated. At
that briefing, agency officials said recent repair work reduced the leak rate by a
third.

The leaks, though, remain a cause for concern for the agencies as well as space
station crews. At a Nov. 8 briefing, Michael Barratt, a NASA astronaut who
returned to Earth in October on the Crew-8 mission after nearly eight months on
the station, said his Russian counterparts have been “very open” about the issue
but that NASA takes precautions when the hatch to PrK is open.

“We’ve taken a very conservative approach to close a hatch between the U.S.
side and the Russian side during those time periods,” he said. “It’s not a
comfortable thing but it is the best agreement between all the smart people on
both sides, and it’s something that we as a crew live with.”

Cabana said at the committee meeting that there is also no agreement between
NASA and Roscosmos on the severity of the issue. “While the Russian team
continues to search for and seal the leaks, it does not believe catastrophic
disintegration of the PrK is realistic,” he said. “NASA has expressed concerns
about the structural integrity of the PrK and the possibility of a catastrophic
failure.”

“The Russians believe that continued operations are safe but they can’t prove to
our satisfaction that they are, and the U.S. believes that it’s not safe but we can’t
prove to the Russians’ satisfaction that that’s the case,” he concluded.

Cabana said the NASA and Roscosmos committee made a joint recommendation
to their agencies’ leaders that they would continue to seek a “common
understanding of the structural integrity” of PrK and bring in outside experts from
academia and industry to support those efforts.

He offered no timetable for those efforts, but said NASA has brought in an
independent team to assess the leaks. “This is an engineering problem, and good
engineers should be able to reach a solution and agree on it.”

“The station is not young. It’s been up there for quite a while. You expect some
wear and tear, and we’re seeing that,” Barratt said at the Crew-8 briefing.

The PrK leak was the primary topic of the meeting, which lasted only about 10
minutes even though the Federal Register notice for the meeting projected it
would last an hour. The meeting was the first public meeting by the committee
since March 2020, when the committee was chaired by former astronaut Tom
Stafford, who passed away this March.


Responses:
[48526] [48527] [48528]


48526


Date: November 15, 2024 at 16:47:54
From: Maj. Tom, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NASA and Roscosmos disagree on cause and severity of ISS air leak


The ISS is just a bunch of empty cans wired together. It's not habitable. The stuff NASA shows you is cooked up on the 'Vomit Comet' and in underwater simulation pools spraypainted in CG. The entire "space program" is an enormous lie. I know because I have been behind the scenes and seen the lie. Everyone is threatened with pain of death if they squeal. This int'l lie has to stop.


Responses:
[48527] [48528]


48527


Date: November 15, 2024 at 20:41:30
From: Ground Control, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NASA and Roscosmos disagree on cause and severity of ISS air leak


Pain of death, eh? Guess that's not enough to stop you.

Which if you "have been behind the scenes", got any evidence
or proof to substantiate that claim?

See, we don't have to actually send anyone out to take care
of you, since we already know that you'll just be regarded
as some nut job. No need to threaten you with death. No one
will take you seriously.

Besides, like who's gonna pay any attention to someone posting
around here anyway?


Responses:
[48528]


48528


Date: November 15, 2024 at 23:29:19
From: Maj. Tom, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NASA and Roscosmos disagree on cause and severity of ISS air leak


Just me and my old eyewitenessess.

Yeah, I'm terrified. The cabal is a toothless Bumble.


Responses:
None


[ Skywatchers ] [ Main Menu ]

Generated by: TalkRec 1.17
    Last Updated: 30-Aug-2013 14:32:46, 80837 Bytes
    Author: Brian Steele