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Date: January 02, 2022 at 22:12:55
From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Faster And More Powerful Earthquake Forecasting Computer Programs |
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FASTER AND MORE POWERFUL EARTHQUAKE FORECASTING COMPUTER PROGRAMS
Posted by EQF on January 3, 2022
SUMMARY: Special routines for making any computer language more powerful have finally been developed.
THE HISTORY OF THIS EFFORT
Roger who posts notes here and I have been working on various earthquake forecasting computer programs for many years.
Unfortunately, we have often run into problems with trying to work with the same computer language. Most of the time I use Perl. Roger prefers True Basic.
Standalone Perl .exe programs are bulky and slow. But Perl interacts quite well with the Windows operating system.
Standalone True Basic .exe programs are fast and compact. But True Basic does not interact especially well with the Windows operating system. It also cannot generate picture files such as .PNG files.
Other languages such as PC Basic and various versions of FORTRAN that we have tried to work with have had their own limitations.
Perhaps the most serious limitation with quite a few languages such as True Basic has been the language’s inability to send commands such as the following to the operating system:
“Start Internet Explorer running and have it open a specific Internet Web page”
We began discussing ways to get around that command limitation a long time ago so that we could develop faster and more compact earthquake forecasting computer programs.
Finally, I had time to do some work on this. The effort was successful.
The routines that were developed can greatly empower probably any computer language that has the ability to open a file and write information to it.
Those routines involve the use of several DOS .Bat files that link with one another, some Windows Shortcut files, and if desired, an older version of the Gnuplot picture file creation program.
DOS actually does the control work. True Basic would store information in .BAT files that would tell DOS to do one thing or another including starting or restarting a True Basic .exe program.
It is probably a lot easier to use this type of approach to creating new earthquake forecasting computer programs than to have someone (including me) learn how to use a newer and more powerful and versatile language such as Python.
So, now we will have to see how Roger does with using this approach to create new True Basic earthquake forecasting computer programs.
Finally,
I don't know what happened, but lately, I have not had any problems with accessing this forum. In the past when I tried to access it I would often get an error message.
These are personal opinions.
Regards to all,
EQF
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Date: January 03, 2022 at 16:32:34
From: rh5919899, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Faster And More Powerful Earthquake Forecasting Computer Programs |
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EQF;
Sounds really good but I won't know until you send me some code.
Roger
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Date: January 11, 2022 at 10:29:36
From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Update - Jan. 11, 2022 |
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Posted by EQF on January 11, 2022
Hi Roger,
Your E-mail system must be acting up.
I sent you a copy of that program code more than a week ago.
All of the attached files had a .dat extension. So they should have gotten through any E-mail filters.
Regards,
EQF
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Date: January 11, 2022 at 17:12:26
From: rh5919899, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Update - Jan. 11, 2022 |
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EQF;
I don't find any attached program.
Please send again.
Roger
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Date: January 11, 2022 at 22:19:11
From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: E-mail Usage - Jan. 11, 2022 |
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Posted by EQF on January 11, 2022
The following are personal opinions.
These are comments regarding E-mail options. Most people probably already know all of this.
Based on past experiences, I am of the opinion that people who consider themselves to be serious researchers should probably be using an E-mail service that automatically sends E-mails to their Personal Computer through the use of a computer program such as Windows Mail.
If you are connected to the Internet, then when you tell Windows Mail, for example, to run, it goes to the location on the Internet where your E-mails are stored and automatically downloads them and displays them on your computer.
There are a wide variety of settings in the Windows Mail program and usually at the Internet location where the E-mails are stored such as AT&T and Google sites I believe.
Those settings tell your computer and the Internet site how they should handle the E-mails. Your computer virus program probably also has settings for how to handle incoming E-mails.
For a few examples,
Some E-mail addresses can be automatically blocked so that you are never sent or see any E-mails from those addresses.
Windows Mail can tell the Internet site to let a copy of the E-mail remain stored on the Internet site or to delete it once a copy has been downloaded.
I myself use multiple computers to do E-mail work. Two are used when I travel. One stays at my residence all of the time.
Two of those computers tell the Internet site to leave a copy of an E-mail stored on the Internet site even after it has been downloaded.
When the third computer is used, it downloads the entire collection of E-mails and then tells the Internet site to delete them all from the Internet site. The E-mails don't stay there for years.
Deleting all of the E-mails from the Internet site can be an important security measure. If hackers break into your Internet site where the E-mails are stored they won't find a large collection of E-mails and their contents along with all of your contacts' E-mail addresses.
Many people instead use a Web Mail approach.
They visit the Internet site where the E-mails are stored and read them. Using Internet site Web Mail resources they then respond to the E-mails or manually delete them.
For serious researchers, I believe that the Web Mail approach is not the best idea. It can be easy to overlook some E-mails, especially if you have large numbers of them permanently stored at the site.
There can be security risks associated with keeping all of them there permanently.
If the site crashes for some reason, you could lose all of your E-mail contact addresses if the addresses are stored only on that site and not on your personal computer.
I myself use an Internet E-mail service that charges me about $15 a month. It collects, stores, and circulates E-mails for me. When my computer E-mail program program is activated, it automatically downloads all of my new E-mails from the site.
People on fixed income might find even $15 a month to be a considerable expense.
However, if you can't afford even $15 a month for an E-mail service then you might want to give some thought as to whether or not you should be considering yourself to be a serious researcher.
On rare occasions, my E-mail service encounters some type of problem with a specific E-mail. It blocks the download steam and my computer program can't download that E-mail or any others stored at the site.
When that happens I have to visit the E-mail service Web Mail site and read and manually clear out all of the stored E-mails. Normal service then resumes.
I also pay a fairly large amount of money each year to maintain my Earthquake Forecasting Web site. That is another subject that serious researchers need to consider.
My regular E-mail service is not connected to my Earthquake Forecasting Web site.
Regards to all,
EQF
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Date: January 11, 2022 at 23:34:54
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: E-mail Usage - Jan. 11, 2022 |
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but serious researchers use macs...
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Date: January 12, 2022 at 06:29:52
From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: E-mail Usage - Jan. 11, 2022 |
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Posted by EQF on January 12, 2022
Those of us who are less fortunate are stuck with Windows PCs.
EQF
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Date: January 06, 2022 at 15:11:11
From: eqf, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Faster And More Powerful Earthquake Forecasting Computer Programs |
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Posted by EQF on January 6, 2022
I am changing the internal structure of the program so that subroutines are not needed.
Even with the expanded DOS capacities it won't print text to a notepad file that is open. It would need an additional Perl or Python program to run with it in order to do that.
Other than Perl and Python I don't know of any other computer languages that would allow that. But, that special additional program won't be needed at first.
Regards to all,
EQF
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Date: January 04, 2022 at 00:14:10
From: Richter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Roger... |
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Roger, is it true that you program in BASIC?
10 Home
20 if Roger programming basic then Goto end else goto 30
30 Forecasting of earthquakes
Is it true?
What is "true Basic"?
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Date: January 04, 2022 at 06:40:49
From: rh5919899, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Roger... |
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Richter;
Yes, I program with True Basic which is a modern, compiling language. It's very powerful. I started out with FORTRAN but switched when I needed graphics.
All this was many years ago while working with the US Geological Survey and I've never found any reason to change.
Roger
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