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21448


Date: June 08, 2020 at 13:56:00
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


for several years now... no more average higher mag quakes like we used to have. Can anyone offer an explanation???


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21457


Date: June 08, 2020 at 21:22:22
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Here's a listing binning quakes by whole magnitudes for
each year, 1950 through 2019.

Data is from the USGS.

Keep in mind that as time goes on, there are more
seismometers, and they get more sensitive. So naturally
the number of quakes reported in the record increases,
especially in the lower magnitudes.

The catalog is essentially complete for mags 6+ for
this time span, except for an anomaly for mag 6 from
1973 to 1982 which I still haven't figured out.

Anyway, except for rando fluctuations and increases as
aftershocks due to the largest events, there is not
change in the rate of quakes.

Brian


Binning magnitudes by year...
Start Year: 1950
End Year: 2019
year - -99 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1950 - 0 0 44 285 165 42 95 125 11 2 0 - total: 769
1951 - 0 0 5 143 120 24 112 140 11 0 0 - total: 555
1952 - 0 0 10 114 251 184 159 174 5 1 1 - total: 899
1953 - 0 0 8 275 277 28 106 138 9 0 0 - total: 841
1954 - 0 0 12 226 298 103 127 125 6 0 0 - total: 897
1955 - 2 0 10 188 150 45 94 125 11 0 0 - total: 625
1956 - 2469 1 10 144 160 174 129 107 8 0 0 - total: 3202
1957 - 2919 0 7 88 172 56 153 183 19 2 0 - total: 3599
1958 - 0 0 6 86 143 35 224 131 7 1 0 - total: 633
1959 - 813 0 6 232 191 46 231 116 8 0 0 - total: 1643
1960 - 2911 0 52 823 322 32 138 140 10 2 1 - total: 4431
1961 - 10519 0 10 411 256 54 141 110 12 0 0 - total: 11513
1962 - 9036 0 93 848 315 66 110 108 10 0 0 - total: 10586
1963 - 0 0 99 930 379 68 187 126 15 2 0 - total: 1806
1964 - 1641 0 22 539 235 55 162 146 11 0 1 - total: 2812
1965 - 1165 0 49 743 259 60 237 123 16 2 0 - total: 2654
1966 - 31 156 126 551 224 68 132 106 8 1 0 - total: 1403
1967 - 10887 0 27 625 266 54 157 97 11 0 0 - total: 12124
1968 - 0 0 100 940 436 61 162 134 21 1 0 - total: 1855
1969 - 4402 2 461 1692 424 79 176 139 13 1 0 - total: 7389
1970 - 1083 70 1278 1642 298 51 194 143 16 1 0 - total: 4776
1971 - 0 73 1932 2629 636 98 241 132 18 2 0 - total: 5761
1972 - 166 154 1115 1633 282 46 250 127 15 1 0 - total: 3789
1973 - 159 112 1470 1849 726 2568 1334 89 9 0 0 - total: 8316
1974 - 8 514 3562 4192 1203 2615 1316 86 11 0 0 - total: 13507
1975 - 12453 609 5556 7142 1813 2622 1443 96 13 0 0 - total: 31747
1976 - 2159 466 3831 5079 1348 2561 1663 95 13 1 0 - total: 17216
1977 - 12 654 6781 5718 967 2396 1693 75 10 1 0 - total: 18307
1978 - 50 598 7642 5880 1182 2580 1535 81 12 0 0 - total: 19560
1979 - 25 1084 11530 7604 1822 2976 1373 86 8 0 0 - total: 26508
1980 - 1335 2416 11076 7406 2507 3411 1312 90 6 0 0 - total: 29559
1981 - 82 6952 16903 6780 1584 3157 1175 78 10 0 0 - total: 36721
1982 - 3581 5726 14874 7510 1569 3194 1415 82 8 0 0 - total: 37959
1983 - 98 8611 25656 10031 2151 3514 1661 125 14 0 0 - total: 51861
1984 - 1910 14569 21900 7866 1952 3615 1542 127 14 0 0 - total: 53495
1985 - 1313 11853 19158 7639 1951 4236 1643 147 13 2 0 - total: 47955
1986 - 52 10525 25069 11528 2402 4451 1622 128 10 1 0 - total: 55788
1987 - 14 7205 15195 9718 2249 4099 1399 160 13 0 0 - total: 40052
1988 - 1927 7781 16553 8727 2383 3948 1471 115 11 0 0 - total: 42916
1989 - 2168 9708 18590 10176 2848 4021 1422 131 7 1 0 - total: 49072
1990 - 0 12231 20359 8022 2701 4432 1610 136 18 0 0 - total: 49509
1991 - 0 9303 19703 7925 3200 4291 1447 120 17 0 0 - total: 46006
1992 - 7 10417 43959 23250 5479 5130 1496 166 13 0 0 - total: 89917
1993 - 5 12664 32306 11738 4320 4942 1415 136 12 0 0 - total: 67538
1994 - 0 11159 33118 12212 5010 4445 1534 146 11 2 0 - total: 67637
1995 - 0 11981 30268 8946 5124 8051 1300 181 18 2 0 - total: 65871
1996 - 3246 9096 27564 8260 5162 8708 1209 149 14 1 0 - total: 63409
1997 - 0 12188 35277 10852 4667 7897 1098 120 16 0 0 - total: 72115
1998 - 0 12318 30718 12313 6339 7229 954 109 11 1 0 - total: 69992
1999 - 0 12073 29367 15008 5932 7008 1058 118 18 0 0 - total: 70582
2000 - 0 11494 35481 11386 4994 7971 1336 145 14 1 0 - total: 72822
2001 - 0 12115 34050 12139 6604 7970 1213 122 14 1 0 - total: 74228
2002 - 0 16854 44261 17563 7439 8479 1169 126 13 0 0 - total: 95904
2003 - 6860 16577 47778 19019 8281 8457 1211 141 15 1 0 - total: 108340
2004 - 0 23424 52639 19233 8311 10878 1513 141 14 1 1 - total: 116155
2005 - 0 21764 42140 15123 9327 13893 1694 139 10 1 0 - total: 104091
2006 - 370 21562 40433 14965 10591 12843 1726 142 9 2 0 - total: 102643
2007 - 0 23024 36206 13899 10332 12081 2089 178 14 4 0 - total: 97827
2008 - 0 41036 44614 15860 12148 12296 1786 167 12 0 0 - total: 127919
2009 - 3547 32496 35729 10447 2906 6818 1914 143 16 1 0 - total: 94017
2010 - 0 36536 49920 22500 4462 10140 2220 151 23 1 0 - total: 125953
2011 - 447 40092 35010 11856 2842 13128 2486 187 19 0 1 - total: 106068
2012 - 0 43372 35498 11370 2839 10956 1546 117 14 2 0 - total: 105714
2013 - 0 46960 40379 12399 2686 11878 1460 123 17 2 0 - total: 115904
2014 - 20 51927 48257 17511 3975 15817 1580 143 11 1 0 - total: 139242
2015 - 0 43199 46578 16950 4548 13777 1413 127 18 1 0 - total: 126611
2016 - 350 44148 46800 15798 3805 13700 1550 131 16 0 0 - total: 126298
2017 - 0 48339 52462 16612 3887 11544 1447 104 6 1 0 - total: 134402
2018 - 476 50429 64588 48758 9198 12783 1671 118 16 1 0 - total: 188038
2019 - 483 60088 81760 22169 4638 11901 1485 135 9 1 0 - total: 182669
total: 3751219
year - -99 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Time to complete function: 00:00:00.859170


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21458


Date: June 09, 2020 at 00:15:18
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Date: June 08, 2020 at 19:26:37
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


I just looked back in each years archive, from now to 2011, and it looks normal to me for averages. Whoever brought up the subject is wrong. And since I checked for myself, never mind. I have no more questions.


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21455


Date: June 08, 2020 at 19:46:56
From: jordan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum


Solar minimum is the period of least solar activity in
the 11-year solar cycle of the Sun. During this time,
sunspot and solar flare activity diminishes, and often
does not occur for days at a time. The date of the
minimum is described by a smoothed average over 12
months of sunspot activity, so identifying the date of
the solar minimum usually can only happen 6 months after
the minimum takes place. Solar minima is correlated with
changes in climate.[citation needed]


https://www.perspectaweather.com/blog/2020/1/16/715-am-
the-solar-minimum-and-an-increase-in-volcanic-activity


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21456


Date: June 08, 2020 at 20:06:37
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


huh? I was asking about higher mag. earthquakes, not sun spots. but thanks!


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21459


Date: June 09, 2020 at 09:35:44
From: jordan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


lack of sunspots is what is causing the lack of high magnitude earthquakes.


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21462


Date: June 09, 2020 at 19:09:34
From: Roger Hunter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Jordan;

Do you have any evidence to support that?

I say you don't, that it's nonsense.

Roger


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21466


Date: June 10, 2020 at 16:49:20
From: jordan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??

URL: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258471897_Influence_of_Solar_Cycles_on_Earthquakes


This research inspects possible influence of solar
cycles on earthquakes through of statistical analyses.
We also discussed the mechanism that would drive the
occurrence of increasing of earthquakes during solar
maxima. The study was based on worldwide earthquakes
events during approximately four hundred years (1600-
2010). The increase of earthquakes events followed the
Maxima of Solar cycle, and also depends on the tectonic
plate location. From 1600 until 1645 events increased
during the Maxima in some of the tectonic plates as
Pacific, Arabian and South America. The earthquakes
analyzed during two grand solar minima, the Maunder
(1645-1720) and the Dalton (1790-1820) showed a
decrease in the number of earthquakes and the solar
activity. It was observed during these minima a
significant number of events at specific geological
features. After the last minima (Dalton) the
earthquakes pattern increased with solar maxima. The
calculations showed that events increasing during solar
maxima most in the Pacific, South America or Arabian
until 1900. Since there were few records during these
three centuries we needed additional analysis on modern
data. We took the last four solar cycles events (1950-
2010) and made similar calculations. The results agreed
with the former calculations. It might be that the
mechanism for the Sun-Earth connection relies on the
solar wind speed. In both records (1600-1900) and
(1950-2010) the results showed a significant increase
in earthquakes events in some of the tectonic plates
linked to solar maxima. The Solar wind energy striking
the Earth's magnetosphere affects the entire
environment because the pressure on the region
increases and the magnetosphere shrinks sometimes four
Earth's radii. This sudden compression causes
earthquakes in specific plates. During the times of
solar minima the pressure from the solar wind on the
earth decreases, then the magnetosphere expands and
earthquakes happen in a different pattern according to
the geological feature on earth's surface less
frequently. Solar driven events include coronal mass
ejections (CME) and coronal holes, which are at a
maximum during the descending phase of solar activity.
The tectonic are important because there is
heterogeneity in the crust and the tectonic stress
depends on each region. The geo-effectiveness of solar
wind from a coronal hole only depends on the position
of the hole relative to the Earth and for the CMEs an
additional factor is their velocity. The influence of
these solar events could be detected from
electromagnetic variations on the ground prior the
earthquakes. The goal in this research was to show the
solar events influenced the earthquakes and seismologic
events following some special display and also how the
Sun's activity played to make earthquakes increase.
This paper discussed details of this mechanism,
calculations and associated factors.


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21467


Date: June 10, 2020 at 20:51:17
From: Roger Hunter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Jordan;

This looks like another instance of correlation vs
causation.

If the sun could exert enough force on the earth to
cause quakes it would be sufficient to cause massive
fatalities.

Roger


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21468


Date: June 11, 2020 at 01:44:27
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


you're trying to dismiss this with a wave of the hand roger...there are other "forces" that could be causitive...especially if you consider that human activity affects sunspot cycles...course you have to understand that we are talking about living entities to gain any traction...


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21469


Date: June 11, 2020 at 07:01:16
From: Roger Hunter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


ryan;

That makes even less sense.

Roger


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21465


Date: June 09, 2020 at 20:35:32
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Any evidence would have to explain the raw quake
statistics I already posted which indicate no such
pattern.

Brian


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21461


Date: June 09, 2020 at 16:45:06
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


I have read it can be, but so far since I checked the archives, its about average for the last 9-10 years. thks for clarifying-had to ask, because no where did you mention the sun cycle.


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21449


Date: June 08, 2020 at 14:24:09
From: JSB, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??

URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG1oDG7Xld8


Terral Blackstar tries to explain that. He is planning to take his group down a bottomless pit in Arkansas. His group makes and sells colloidal silver.


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21450


Date: June 08, 2020 at 15:16:58
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Yes, I've heard of him recently. And he's written lots of letters/reports to various geologists, and other scientists too. They don't seem to know why either. So why don't other so called experts, geologists here want to answer this?


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21451


Date: June 08, 2020 at 15:57:45
From: JSB, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Good question. In the link he responds to a government geologist named Lisa. He thinks she has to take the government line that nothing unusual is going on.


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21452


Date: June 08, 2020 at 16:49:37
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Yes, I know, thks, but was wanting to hear from "experts" here. I watched that his am- like I wrote, they don't have a clue.


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21453


Date: June 08, 2020 at 18:08:17
From: Roger Hunter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


Pamela;

I don't understand your concern.

From 2010/1/1 to 2020/6/4 we have had
1544 quakes of mag 6+ globally.

Roger


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21454


Date: June 08, 2020 at 19:26:37
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So where did all the higher mag quakes go ??


I just looked back in each years archive, from now to 2011, and it looks normal to me for averages. Whoever brought up the subject is wrong. And since I checked for myself, never mind. I have no more questions.


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