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444220


Date: November 18, 2024 at 22:03:15
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: why we lost the election...


we couldn't believe voters could be dumb enough to vote for the rump...but turns out they are...according to nyt reporting today, 50% of voters in this election are educated to a sixth grade level or less...hard to overcome that kind of ignorance and inability to think logically or rationally...that is the distracted by shiny objects level...you know, the kind of people the orange turd can relate to...8 year olds...people like ot...lol...the other major factor was turnout...the dim turnout was quite a bit less than in 2020...hard to believe also but dems da facts...


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444235


Date: November 19, 2024 at 12:03:37
From: Graxerife , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


Because you all ran the wrong 2, especially
the second one.


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444230


Date: November 19, 2024 at 11:24:57
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...

URL: https://time.com/6985760/autocrats-weaponize-chaos-essay/




I've seen several of these articles.
One reason, another, and they are all true except for
one thing, all do not recognize the veracity of the
others. All were weaponized chaos, and where it did
not exist it was fantasized into existence, from one
segment to another group. The messaging changed as the
targets, and each heard what they cared about the most
as being delivered by the fascists and denied by
Democrats.

*****************

"autocrats throughout history have understood, as the
Joker put it in The Dark Knight, that if you "introduce
a little anarchy” and upset the established order,
“everything becomes chaos.” And they always find ways
to weaponize that chaos to serve their own ends. The
way, say, that Chinese Communist Leader Mao Zedong
unleashed the calamitous social and political chaos of
the Cultural Revolution to destroy his enemies and
reassert his own control over the Communist Party. "




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444225


Date: November 19, 2024 at 04:24:04
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


But those are the people who are likely the poorest, who work for minimum wage,
who can't afford healthcare and are most affected by inflated food costs. Which
Kamala Harris campaign largely ignored. When will those DNC geniuses get a
clue?


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444226


Date: November 19, 2024 at 05:00:18
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...

URL: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-response-presidential-election/story?id=115582079


could you post that NY times poll? I'd like to see the whole thing.

excerpt
'Bernie Sanders blasts Democratic Party following Kamala Harris loss
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders issued a scathing statement on what he called the
Democratic Party's "disastrous" campaign after Vice President Kamala Harris lost
the presidential election to former President Donald Trump.

The independent, who caucuses with Democrats, said it "should come as no
great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class
people would find that the working class has abandoned them."


MORE: Exit poll analysis 2024: Trump leverages economic discontent, extends
his appeal -- and breaks the mold

"First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as
well," Sanders continued in his statement. "While the Democratic leadership
defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And
they're right."

The longtime progressive champion, who ran for president in 2016 and 2020,
reflected on the ways Americans continue to experience economic instability,
from income and wealth inequality to a lack of guaranteed paid family and
medical leave.

Sanders also criticized continued spending on military aid to Israel."


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444237


Date: November 19, 2024 at 12:25:19
From: ChiTown, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...

URL: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls?amp=1


Here are some real numbers and not imaginary numbers that show only
15% of voters never attended college and 43% are college graduates.
People need to stop believing what they hear on the tube.


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444240


Date: November 19, 2024 at 13:54:30
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


also, a full review of actually voters and trends are
still being compiled, and exit polls have been notorious
for not being completely accurate.

I would suggest waiting for now. Theorizing is great,
but careful of "exit poll" information and read them
with a skeptical eye.


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444247


Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:40:22
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


it's funny how you singled out ChiTown to offer that suggestion, especially on this
thread.


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444286


Date: November 20, 2024 at 09:45:23
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


lol any chance to take a shot at me. You should see
someone about all those resentments you carry through
life. They burden you, not me.


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444238


Date: November 19, 2024 at 13:44:27
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...

URL: https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/


i'll see your numbers and raise them with my real numbers ot...times article is behind a paywall...

....

According to a meme recently shared with the Snopes newsroom, more than half of people living in the United States between the ages of 16 and 74 read below a sixth-grade level:

We investigated this statistic, as well as the assertion that the U.S. ranks 125th for literacy when compared with other nations around the world. Though both statements are true to some degree, we took a closer look at the data — and how it was compiled — to gain a more thorough understanding of the limitations associated with conducting such wide-scale, generalizing studies.
Do More Than Half of Americans Read Below a 6th-Grade Level?

This claim is true, according to a review of the U.S. education system that was conducted in September 2020. Let's explore.

A Gallup analysis published in March 2020 looked at data collected by the U.S. Department of Education in 2012, 2014, and 2017. It found that 130 million adults in the country have low literacy skills, meaning that more than half (54%) of Americans between the ages of 16 and 74 read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level, according to a piece published in 2022 by APM Research Lab.:

The 2020 Gallup estimates were part of an economic analysis that used literacy rates to determine missed and potential financial gains. It was based on data from an international assessment of adult skills called the Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies (PIAAC) and the U.S. Department of Education. The analysis combined individual PIAAC data from 2012 to 2017 to create and publish estimated literacy levels for every county in the U.S.

"The U.S. Department of Education combined assessment data from three sample waves (2012, 2014 and 2017), using data from 12,330 respondents living in 185 counties. The research team then modelled the literacy scores, which means they gathered a large amount of data about each respondent and his or her county to predict that respondent's literacy score," read the report.


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444261


Date: November 19, 2024 at 19:21:19
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the dems control the education process


we can see the results.


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444264


Date: November 19, 2024 at 19:37:07
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the dems control the education process


lol...you think this has happened in 4 years chas?!?!?!? how about 50-60 years...


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444250


Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:49:46
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "according to a meme"? lol

URL: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/meme


noun
ˈmēm
1
: an amusing or interesting item (such as a captioned picture or video) or genre of
items that is spread widely online especially through social media

… the band encouraged fans to make memes to advertise the U.S. release of their
EP …
—William Gruger
The grumpy cat meme frowned its way onto the Internet in September 2012 and
never turned its dissatisfied head back. Since then, the image of the cranky cat
has grown more and more popular in direct proportion to appearing less and less
impressed by fame.
—Anastasia Thrift
2
: an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a
culture
Memes (discrete units of knowledge, gossip, jokes and so on) are to culture what
genes are to life. Just as biological evolution is driven by the survival of the fittest
genes in the gene pool, cultural evolution may be driven by the most successful
memes.
—Richard Dawkins


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Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:59:19
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "according to a meme"? lol


your reading comprehension seems to be slipping even further...the meme in itself is insignificant...they only used the meme as a basis for investigating the charge...and found it to be true...you should stop trying so hard to cast aspersion...


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444245


Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:38:45
From: ChiTown, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


How about a link to that New York Times article?


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444246


Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:39:35
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


how about you kiss my ass...


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444249


Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:46:32
From: ChiTown, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


About what I expected, why make up stuff?


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444251


Date: November 19, 2024 at 14:53:54
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


why pretend you're not a lazy, condescending asshole? you are the king of making shit up...i couldn't read the article so i cannot confirm it is the one referenced on the news report i saw...


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444234


Date: November 19, 2024 at 11:32:56
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: a DNC which has abandoned working class people ...


it was on the tube...


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444222


Date: November 18, 2024 at 22:38:43
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


But he said many many times - he likes his followers to
be uneducated....


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444236


Date: November 19, 2024 at 12:24:10
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


The federal government as a whole loves stupid people. They are intent on
creating legions of them. The Department of Education gets less that 2% of
the national budget.


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444239


Date: November 19, 2024 at 13:52:14
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...

URL: https://www.10news.com/news/fact-or-fiction/fact-or-fiction-did-biden-drop-out-search-spiked-tuesday


it's also people who have "checked out", which is why
one of the top google searches on election day was "Did
Joe Biden drop out?"

Many are disconnected from news and information. Maybe
because they don't have time, too busy, or simply hate
any political talk.

Problem is, whether they're paying attention or not,
there are things going on in that world that will
directly affect them.

If they don't at least keep at least a brief tether to
the news, they will wake up going "I'm sorry? When did
that happen? And why do I suddenly have to ...(fill in
the blank)"

While phone banking, I ran into voters who had no clue
who the candidates were at all. One person brought up
past president Obama and said he was voting republican
because Obama was a republican and that was the last
president he liked.

I don't think many here who discuss and share news
whether right or left, have any idea how many Americans
don't watch news, have no interest in politics (even
though both those things can very much affect their
lives). These are those so called low information
voters.


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444266


Date: November 19, 2024 at 19:40:22
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


they dont listen to the news because wwe realize they
have an adjenda to change our minds. or lie to us
basically. we need to learn to live with what we get.
God saved trmps life because God wanted him elected. he
knew whatg we needed. so far its not a problem. my
house is filled with immigrant who do the paperwork to
keep legal. tghey all wondered why we let a foriegner
run for president. they thought it was a technicallity.
i guess it was.


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444285


Date: November 20, 2024 at 09:43:37
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


As far as I know, no foreigner has run for president.

Weirdos, yes..foreigners, no. By constitution a
Presidential candidate must be a natural citizen.


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444268


Date: November 19, 2024 at 19:44:06
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


what the fuck are you talking about...perhaps thailand is best for y'all...lol..


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444255


Date: November 19, 2024 at 15:12:54
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


"While phone banking, I ran into voters who had no clue who the candidates
were at all. "

While monitoring lava flows inundating a town on the flank of Kilauea I was
amazed there were people being told they had to evacuate that had no idea
they lived on a volcano.


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444223


Date: November 18, 2024 at 23:05:21
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: why we lost the election...


ayep, just like him...


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