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Date: November 09, 2024 at 19:19:45
From: Graxerife , [DNS_Address]
Subject: 312 with Arizona. |
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Just saw Arizona fell into the fold.
4mil plus on the popular vote.
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 07:48:46
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
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popular vote margin is down to about 3.6 million and will likely drop lower
as california results slowly come in. still an overwhelming victory for the
people of this country
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 10:00:15
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
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an underwhelming victory for dumbasses...no mandate there...joe won by double that iirc...
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 00:07:48
From: Graxerife , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Apples for oranges. Joe wasn't runn(NT) |
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 09:29:59
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Apples for oranges. Joe wasn't runn |
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 07:56:19
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
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It’s an overwhelming victory solely for those who want to see the very
lowest aspects of human character in positions of control over human
beings…and you can do your best to deflect from that fact, but that IS
what you’ve voted in, and there’s literally nothing you can do to make
that *other than what it is* — not with words, not with laws, not with
guns, not with en-masse coercion, not with bombs…
Evil is evil, end of. By whatever name you give it…
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 02:17:47
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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On inauguration day, if he survives until
then. Be shocked if attempt #3 is taken by
the usual lefty lunatics. Apparently
that's okay on this board. Shame.
You all protected Obama day 1 like some
golden calf, now he's being asked to step
aside. Everything he did (wasn't free he
was paid), was to keep The Machine in
charge.
Instead, a convicted felon got elected
twice. America must be pretty po'd right
now, about being lied to nonstop for 4
years.
Apparently the white supremacist movement
has a burgeoning nationwide presence,
affecting not just the Democrat led
counties like Miami-Dade, but also drawing
in unsuspecting black men, and Hispanics
jn droves. They'll never learn, but now
that CNN and Fox have a reason to exist
again for at least 4 more years, maybe 8,
but anything could happen.
There's already talk of camps. Just one
amongst the rampant liberal tears on
Twitter.
They fall like rain, angry tears, must be
someone to blame, besides the guy that
MADE SURE IT WOULD, Mr. Joseph R. Biden,
we thank you sir, thanks for getting last
laugh in, as Kamalas 2028 dreams went
POOF.
Now she's so much fodder for nutty Newsom.
Btw gas is going up .65 here in the state,
we NEED some drill baby drill.
Thanks dems, this communist paradise is
everything a comrade has grown to love.
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 04:19:17
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: You will pay for Donald Trump’s tariffs. Here’s proof |
URL: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/business/tariffs-donald-trump-prices/index.html |
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You will pay for Donald Trump’s tariffs. Here’s proof
November 6, 2024
Several studies show that the cost of Trump's 2018 tariffs were borne almost
entirely by American consumers and businesses.
Several studies show that the cost of Trump's 2018 tariffs were borne almost
entirely by American consumers and businesses. Jade Gao/AFP/Getty
Images/File
New York
CNN
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If you’re inclined to roll your eyes at the stuffy academics shouting about the
damage tariffs do to the economy, I get it. “Tariff” is just one of those words that
makes your eyelids feel as heavy as they did in your 9 a.m. undergraduate econ
class.
But if you don’t want to heed the many, many economists’ warnings about former
President Trump’s fringe economic plans, take it from the people running the
companies that make the stuff you buy: Prices will go up. How much and how fast
is hard to know, but you can bet your bottom dollar you’ll be needing more dollars
to pay for everyday goods if Trump’s sweeping tariffs are put in place.
“If we get tariffs, we will pass those tariff costs back to the consumer,” said Philip
Daniele, CEO of AutoZone, on an earnings call in September.
AutoZone also won’t need to wait until the policies are enacted, Daniele noted.
Once they know what the markup will be, “we generally raise prices ahead of
that.”
A quick primer on tariffs: They’re a tax on imported goods — clothes, shoes, toys,
car parts, appliances, you name it. But the extra money does not come from the
foreign companies that produce those goods. The American company doing the
importing pays the money to the US Treasury. And more often than not, that
means you, the consumer, pay for the tariff.
Trump is doubling down on an unprecedented trade agenda that would, almost
by definition, raise the price of imported goods from around the world.
RELATED ARTICLE
Ignore the word ‘tariff’ — Trump is pitching higher taxes
This isn’t speculation or theory, it’s just the way tariffs work — and we have the
last six years of global trade to prove it.
In 2018, during his first term, Trump imposed tariffs of 30% to 50% on goods
imported from China, forcing Beijing to retaliate with its own tariffs against US
goods like aluminum, airplanes, cars, pork and soybeans. And we’ve been in a tit-
for-tat trade war with China ever since.
You might not have noticed the changes all at once, and the pandemic came
along to muck up supply chains and drive prices even higher. But several studies
conclude that the cost of those tariffs were borne almost entirely by American
consumers and businesses. By the end of 2019, the average US household paid
nearly $500 more on average in a year, according to one analysis.
This time around, Trump has proposed a 20% tariff across the board on all US
imports — something we’ve never seen before — and even steeper duties of 60%
against China and other major trading partners. That radical policy could cost the
typical middle-income US household more than $2,600 per year, according to
research from Peterson Institute for International Economics.
Trump has repeatedly lied about this fact, claiming foreign entities would pay for
the added costs. The most generous interpretation of Trump’s tariff plan would be
that he’s trying to force US businesses to move their overseas operations back on
US soil, creating jobs. But you don’t need an MBA or an econ degree to know that
US labor is expensive, and that could drive prices higher.
Even if tariffs could undo decades of globalization, it likely wouldn’t have the
effect Trump is hoping for.
Former President Donald Trump has called for sweeping changes on everything
from trade and taxes to immigration. Yet some economists worry the US
economy does not need drastic change -- and that what he's calling for could
backfire.
RELATED ARTICLE
Harris wants to upgrade America’s economy. Trump wants to tear it down and
start over
Just ask Timothy Boyle, the CEO of Columbia Sportswear, who told investors
recently that “the argument about tariffs improving the domestic production of
items such as footwear and apparels are fallacious …. the commodities that we
engage in with footwear and apparel are among the most highly tariffed in United
States. Some of the product carries as much as nearly 40% duties, and that has
not translated into increased investment in domestic production.”
In an interview with the Washington Post last week, Boyle was more direct, saying
the company is already planning to raise prices. “We’re buying stuff today for
delivery next fall. So we’re just going to deal with it and we’ll just raise the prices. …
It’s going to be very, very difficult to keep products affordable for Americans.”
What do you think?
Join 257 others in the comments
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Not all products would get an immediate price increase, to be clear. Big
businesses with wider margins tend to be able to absorb at least part of the
added cost before passing it on to consumers.
Consider one of Trump’s own for-profit endeavors, the Trump Bible, which the
Associated Press revealed last month to be the product of a China-based
printing company (not an uncommon practice in the publishing world, but ironic
nonetheless for a politician who has spent years blasting China’s trade policies).
The AP found the $59.99 Trump Bibles cost less than $3 per book to print.
With that kind of markup, the Trump-owned company behind the Bibles could
probably swallow the cost of the president’s tariffs, plus shipping and other fees,
without raising prices.
And big companies like Walmart and Target can (and do) manage to keep prices
steady because, given their scale, they’re able to negotiate terms with their
suppliers.
But small businesses, which employ roughly half of the American workforce,
aren’t in the same position. They are often narrow-margin, high volume
operations with less wiggle room on prices. Most of the time that means business
either have to jack up prices or significantly cut costs — and that’s when the
layoffs begin.
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 04:20:36
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Trump has proposed a 20% tariff across the board on all US imports (NT) |
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 08:28:40
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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who are these elites?
I'm a retiree on a fixed income (that may shrink or
disappear in this next term). We're veterans, middle
class, members of a local church and live rural. So,
forgive me, but how you paint "democrats" does not fit
our home, or many of my friends.
I have questions, many questions about what transpired.
Most of those questions are how my countrymen were so
duped by this asshole, the new felon in chief.
Like you, going on and on about inflation, then voting
for the guy who is promising tariffs to bring us more
inflation. How does that make sense?
So many questions, and reading your posts do not
provide any answers, either. I truly fear for our
country.
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 09:58:16
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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the dims lost because dumbasses such as yourself voted for rump...pure and simple...
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 00:10:17
From: Graxerife , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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Nope, because you guys ran the wrong person.
Get over it, Trump is your daddy again.
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Date: November 12, 2024 at 09:01:29
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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He's not my daddy, but I accept (unless nature
intervenes) he'll probably be President Asshole again.
For those like you, it'll turn into its own
consequence.
Enjoy the before-times while you have them.
My only question would be, if he betrays what you
"thought" you were voting for, what he "said" he was
going to do for you ...will you storm the capitol
again?
It seems the only way to convince those like you is to
stand back and let you have exactly what you thought
you wanted and see for yourself.
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Date: November 12, 2024 at 09:50:16
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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a walking, talking sphincter...
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 04:22:37
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: yes, dems did run the wrong person... 3 elections in a row(NT) |
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 06:21:20
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: In your oh-so-humble opinion, eh akira? n/t(NT) |
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 02:24:03
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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I'm sure there are at least a few things sadder than a
woman calling a rapist, racist, misogynistic, fascist
asshole *her daddy*...and snidely suggesting it's time we
do so, as well...
...but at the moment, I just can't seem to bring them to
mind...
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 09:51:21
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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"woman calling a rapist, racist, misogynistic, fascist
asshole *her daddy*"
It fits the trumplican world like a key into a lock.
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 10:10:18
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 09:03:15
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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You can stop by calling everyone that shares thoughts
different than yours "bullshit", because that's the
biggest bullshit of all.
Even your polls showed that, toward the end, Harris was
polling better on the economy.
The Democrats, as I see them have (at least
domestically) been coming in and cleaning up all the
damage the previous GOP admin leaves. This will be no
different other than, this time, the damage will be
massive due to the corruption we know maga is capable
of.
I have not changed my views or stand.
I believe America has just made a very massive mistake.
Or, as a Canadian friend messaged me Wednesday morning
her perspective from the north, "WTF is wrong with your
country??"
I had to honestly tell her, "I just don't know".
Something in the water, maybe. I'm sure there will be
reams of breakdowns and post-mortems if the next
government allows it and they don't get banned.
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 09:00:13
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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Oh no, Old Timer...lol... I don't think Red nor myself
nor any other Democrat will be "stopping with the
bullshit," because it's NOT bullshit, and the fact that
the GOP "won" this election does not equate to the GOP
being "right" about ANYthing...
Never ceases to amaze me, how you imagine yourself to be
the great harbinger of truth, when you can't even
acknowledge that Biden's four years were the result of
DJT fucking things up so profoundly during his
administration... Very basic, observable fact...but you
refuse to acknowledge it...
Sure, the DNC needs a lot of help, that's clear...but the
values and the *humanity* that moves behind everyone who
identifies with Democracy *will not be silenced* by this
"election" nor by anything or anyone else...
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 07:36:26
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Champagne wishes , pop the corks. |
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Champagne corks popping in the subject line; self-righteous
fingerpointing in the bodytext...what a surprise... Only
you could whine quite this bitterly while having "won," and
blame Democrats for literally everything wrong...place no
accountability on Fascist Republican toxic sludge...
I still pray for you, LaMan...
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Date: November 09, 2024 at 20:15:55
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
URL: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4969256-ruben-gallego-defeats-kari-lake/ |
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Gallego defeats Lake in Arizona Senate race
by Caroline Vakil - 11/09/24 9:00 PM ET
Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) is projected to beat Republican Kari Lake in a consequential race for Arizona Senate, dealing the former local news anchor her second straight electoral loss, according to Decision Desk HQ.
Gallego, who has served in the House for nearly a decade representing a Phoenix-based House seat, will succeed outgoing Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (I-Ariz.). Sinema opted against reelection after changing her political affiliation from Democrat to Independent last year, as Sinema faced steep odds in getting reelected.
Gallego announced his challenge to Sinema even before she made clear she would not be seeking another term, putting Senate Democrats in a temporarily awkward position of possibly having to choose which Democrat they would support.
The Arizona Democrat leaned into his biography as the son of a single mom, with family roots in Mexico and Columbia. He also touted his time in the Marines.
His victory comes as a small but significant relief for Democrats, who had a crushingly disappointing election cycle this year. Though they managed to protect their Senate seats in the battleground states of Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan, in addition to Arizona, they also lost seats in Ohio, Montana and West Virginia, and look poised to lose in Pennsylvania as well. They also lost control of the White House, while their prospects for keeping the House look exceedingly dim.
Lake is a former local news anchor who previously ran for Arizona governor in 2022, narrowly losing to Gov. Katie Hobbs (D). Lake became well known during her 2022 bid as a prominent election denier — something that came back to haunt her again during her Senate bid even as she continued to fight her 2022 loss in court.
Lake also attracted controversy over some of her remarks. She angered some Republicans for making critical statements invoking the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — statements she argued that were made in jest.
She’s previously called abortion the “ultimate sin” and cheered a now-repealed 1864 law that banned nearly all abortions in the state. Lake, this cycle, maintained she would not vote for a federal ban on abortion if elected to the Senate and said abortion restrictions should be left up to the states.
Lake faced a primary challenger in Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb, though Lake was widely seen as the GOP favorite.
At the same time, Gallego also faced questions during his Senate run over his record and whether his stance on issues like immigration and the border had changed, as some have pointed to prior comments he made on the issue years ago, including calling Donald Trump’s border wall “stupid” and “dumb.”
Gallego was also a member of the House Progressive Caucus but later let his membership lapse, citing dues as the reason. Republicans sought to nationalize the race, seeking to tie Gallego to Democrats like Vice President Harris and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) in ads.
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 00:12:23
From: Graxerife , [DNS_Address]
Subject: A little deflecting there Bopp. Not a presidential run.(NT) |
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Date: November 11, 2024 at 07:22:09
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: A little deflecting there Bopp. Not a presidential run.(NT) |
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No ma'am, no deflection, though we know you wish...he was
responding to my note that AZ will never be entirely red
again, by posting Gallego's win...
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Date: November 09, 2024 at 19:36:41
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
URL: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/arizona-president-results |
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"4mil plus on the popular vote."
Ah...no. Only in your dreams.
Donald Trump received 1,574,244 votes in AZ...
Do GOPers just lie by default habit now?
And AZ didn't "fall into any fold," and it won't be
returning to an entirely red state ever again... ;)
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Date: November 09, 2024 at 20:14:31
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
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grax has been drinking the kool-aide...lol...
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Date: November 10, 2024 at 07:40:35
From: shadow , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 312 with Arizona. |
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Yeah...that's probably why she hasn't responded to my
invitation to her, and any other GOPer, to openly celebrate
the "virtues" of the GOPer platform here -- like racism,
religious fascism, economic fascism, misogynistic
everything, women's healthcare tanking, abortion rights
destroyed...asked her a couple of times, actually, but
all's I get are crickets...
...gotta be careful, that kool-aid's toxic shite, will take
you right out... Wonder if she knows...?
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